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you listen to too much liberal media.
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leith, i totally don\'t feel like internet arguing with you....
all i will say is this.....
that cop was screwed. he was damned if he did, damned if he didn\'t.
If that was a real burglary in progress and he did nothing, the first thing the home owners would have done is BLAMED THE COPS.
If for some reason that was a home invasion, and Gates was not letting him in the house for fear of his life (you never know), or maybe it was a bad domestic and he just killed his wife in a back room (you never know), once again, the cops would have been blamed.
Cop was doing his job. A Neighbor called 911 and said two men were trying to break into a home. They have to respond. They need to check everything out.
I\'ve said this once, I\'ll say it again, do not talk back, get crazy, verbally fight, physically fight, verbally assault, physically assault, an officer. They will arrest you. COMMON SENSE. -
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Quote from: SkyePrizm;236762
Cop was doing his job. A Neighbor called 911 and said two men were trying to break into a home. They have to respond. They need to check everything out.
I\'ve said this once, I\'ll say it again, do not talk back, get crazy, verbally fight, physically fight, verbally assault, physically assault, an officer. They will arrest you. COMMON SENSE.
Dude verbally attacks a Cop, as the cop is leaving his house! WTF dude, you are already not arrested. Then he makes it into a race issue, or tries to. If a cop came to my house and while he was leaving I started yelling **** at him I would get arrested too. Thats just what happens, black or white.
Now Gates is trying to call this guy the supreme racist fuckin\' grand dragon klansmen and it turns out he actually teaches classes on Racism in the police force and has a record to back it up.
Supposedly there are tapes too, the phonecall to 911 and the walkie-talkie chatter was recorded. The cop knows this and thats why he is not going to apologize, because he knows he did not do anything wrong. Obama called the cop and asked him to apologize and he told Obama no way, because he did the right thing.
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Quote from: SkyePrizm;236762
leith, i totally don\'t feel like internet arguing with you....
all i will say is this.....
that cop was screwed. he was damned if he did, damned if he didn\'t.
If that was a real burglary in progress and he did nothing, the first thing the home owners would have done is BLAMED THE COPS.
If for some reason that was a home invasion, and Gates was not letting him in the house for fear of his life (you never know), or maybe it was a bad domestic and he just killed his wife in a back room (you never know), once again, the cops would have been blamed.
Cop was doing his job. A Neighbor called 911 and said two men were trying to break into a home. They have to respond. They need to check everything out.
I\'ve said this once, I\'ll say it again, do not talk back, get crazy, verbally fight, physically fight, verbally assault, physically assault, an officer. They will arrest you. COMMON SENSE.
Police have a great deal of power in this country. So much so, that it is all too easy for them to abuse that power and get away with it. It is really the police officers responsibility to temper their own power and resist the urge to go over the top, just because someone makes them angry. That officers only job was to ensure that Gates belonged in that house. It sure sounds like Gates was completely out of control... but it isn\'t against the law to be an ****. It seems pretty clear that both parties involved here went way too far. I believe both parties should take their lumps and move on.
The right is clearly jumping on this issue... as they are with their fantasy that Obama isn\'t a US citizen because they still can\'t believe that a black man holds the highest office in america. It burns their racists souls.
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that cop was screwed. he was damned if he did, damned if he didn\'t.
If that was a real burglary in progress and he did nothing, the first thing the home owners would have done is BLAMED THE COPS.
If for some reason that was a home invasion, and Gates was not letting him in the house for fear of his life (you never know), or maybe it was a bad domestic and he just killed his wife in a back room (you never know), once again, the cops would have been blamed.
Cop was doing his job. A Neighbor called 911 and said two men were trying to break into a home. They have to respond. They need to check everything out.
I\'ve said this once, I\'ll say it again, do not talk back, get crazy, verbally fight, physically fight, verbally assault, physically assault, an officer. They will arrest you. COMMON SENSE.
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Quote from: Reuters
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A prominent black Harvard University scholar has accepted an invitation to have a beer with President Barack Obama and the white police officer who arrested him in a racially charged case.
Professor Henry Louis Gates said Saturday he was willing to have a peace-making beer with Obama and Cambridge, Massachusetts, police Sgt. James Crowley.
Gates was arrested last week at his home after a neighbor called police to say that a man was breaking into the house. Obama said Cambridge police had "acted stupidly," prompting an outcry from police groups and a resulting media blitz.
Obama later telephoned both men and, on Crowley\'s suggestion, invited the two to the White House for a beer.
"I am pleased that he, too, is eager to use my experience as a teaching moment, and if meeting Sgt. Crowley for a beer with the president will further that end, then I would be happy to oblige," Gates said in a statement on TheRoot.com, an Internet newsletter he edits.
Gates said he hoped his arrest would help reduce racial profiling by law enforcement agencies.
(Reporting by David Lawder; Editing by Doina Chiacu)
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I do not know what really happened because I was not there but I have a feeling the black dude has chip on his shoulder being a successful black man and academic and mouthed off to the cop in a cocky manner and the cop did what he would have done to anyone who was out of line in a situation like this...black or white.
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Gates Showed The Cop His ID & It Was His Home.
What The Heck Was The Cop Doing In This Man\'s Home?
We Are Very Territorial Creatures & Feel Threatened If
Someone Enters Our Space We Are Not Comfortable With.
Verbally The Cop May Not Have Been A Threat. But A Look,
An Attitude The Cop Brought With Him May Have Been.
I Rent In A House From Some People & Once Set Off Their
House Alarm.A Few Minutes Later A Cop Shows Up.
I Was Standing In The Driveway.
I Showed The Cop My ID And He Left.He Didn\'t Ask To Enter The House And Look Around.
I Doubt Gates Started Blasting The Cop Without Some Provoking From The Other Party. I\'m Not Sure Police Can Arrest
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I do not know what really happened because I was not there but I have a feeling the black dude has chip on his shoulder being a successful black man and academic and mouthed off to the cop in a cocky manner and the cop did what he would have done to anyone who was out of line in a situation like this...black or white.
It\'s been fun living in Cambridge for all of this! Today for my run I ran past the professor\'s house for **** and giggles.
I\'m very left politcally and I don\'t generally like cops. BUT I gotta go with my gut on this one. And my gut tells me that Mr Professor got way too brash with the cops because
1. He\'s a black intellectual whose very profession is to have a political agenda all day every day and
2. He was just coming home from a 16 hour flight, which would leave anyone tired and irritable.
And maybe Mr Popo was having a bad day too. Certainly it\'s all a case of two men meeting up on a day when they should not have met up.
I can\'t believe I\'m taking the right-wing approach on this, but something tells me Mr Professor had it coming. I guess he just seems a little nuts because the first thing he did was speak about the oppression of the black man by law enforcement as if it\'s still the 1960\'s and all the world is the deep south, or as if he were living in South Central in the 80\'s.
Bro, your arrest in Cambridge, MA in 2009 is not symptomatic of some sweeping epidemic of oppression against black people. I\'m sure racist stuff still happens but nobody\'s buying this oppression business anymore. It\'s 2009 not 1849. The goddam President and the governor of your state are both black. Here\'s what really happened: You were tired and irritable, you got in a cop\'s face because your entire life centers around spouting political agenda, and you probably forgot what racism is like because it is nonexistant in Cambridge. So as soon as a cop asked you some questions even though you weren\'t doing anything wrong, you stupidly assumed his actions were race-driven and flew off the handle. In so doing you
1. Got yourself arrested
2. Caused a national mess
3. Baited the President into making an ass out of himself and
4. Totally trivilized the plights of your fellow black men who really were oppressed by cops, like Amadou Diallo and Rodney King. If everyone starts crying racism wolf the way you just did, racism is gonna come back in a huge way because nobody will believe it\'s happening when it really happens.
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Quote from: KEN RAFLOWITZ;236773
Gates Showed The Cop His ID & It Was His Home.
What The Heck Was The Cop Doing In This Man\'s Home?
We Are Very Territorial Creatures & Feel Threatened If
Someone Enters Our Space We Are Not Comfortable With.
Verbally The Cop May Not Have Been A Threat. But A Look,
An Attitude The Cop Brought With Him May Have Been.
I Rent In A House From Some People & Once Set Off Their
House Alarm.A Few Minutes Later A Cop Shows Up.
I Was Standing In The Driveway.
I Showed The Cop My ID And He Left.He Didn\'t Ask To Enter The House And Look Around.
I Doubt Gates Started Blasting The Cop Without Some Provoking From The Other Party. I\'m Not Sure Police Can Arrest
Someone Over Some Harsh Words Anyway.The Cop Seems A Bit Touchy If He Can\'t Shrug Some Words Off.
Exactly Ken. It should have ended right there once the I.D. was provided. Yes the cop should have kept a level head when Gates started berating him. That\'s a cops JOB to be the sensible and level headed person in such a situation.
As for Wolfman saying Gates had it coming is the exact sentiment which perpetuates conflicts such as this.
So what if the cop teaches Racism classes? He obviously is not very good at it.
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So guy talks **** to cop and gets all up in the cops grill.
Gets arrested.
Guy makes a big stink about it and cries racism all over national television and sparks this huge ridiculous debate over standard police operating procedure.
Pretty **** move if you ask me.
I mean its not like he got Rodney King\'d for christ sakes.
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Two points and I\'ll leave it alone.
1. Obama should not have brought this up in his press conference the other night. He screwed himself by turning the attention away from his healthcare push and turned it to this.
2. The professor is a personal friend of Obama\'s. If this happened to one of you and you made a stink, it would have been buried in the back pages of your local paper. -
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Obama is trying to be the people\'s president.
To show he is part of our lives he comments on what is going
on in our society.Ball games,health needs...friends getting
arrested....His comment was probably more of his friend getting
arrested than a black man.Besides Obama is 50/50 with his
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