Author Topic: Dave Matthews craps on people... (Read 6412 times)

boombox · « **Reply #15 on:** August 25, 2004, 07:36:00 pm »

Maybe i should try to check out some of their earlier stuff then. I\'ve tried a couple of recent albums and spent hours downloading the 4cd Elements set from STG, but have not been impressed.

Todd · « **Reply #16 on:** August 25, 2004, 08:29:13 pm »

Could not have said it better myself!!! I first saw DMB on the side stage of the Horde tour in I think 1993 or 1994 before anyone knew him. He and his band absolutely blew me away. Sickening to see what pop stardom will do to a band.

Todd · « **Reply #17 on:** August 25, 2004, 08:34:04 pm »

If it\'s still available, check out Remember Two Things. It was a live recording from 1993.

leith · « **Reply #18 on:** August 25, 2004, 10:00:06 pm »

I remember seeing them open for Phish on the 1994 fall tour. They were insane. Jamming like crazy! True case of rockstaritis.

Marcial · « **Reply #19 on:** August 25, 2004, 10:05:46 pm »

I saw them a few times back in \'93 - \'94... they were a completely different band.... but now they are laughing all the way to the bank. I say good for them... they would have been fools to not "sell out".

leith · « **Reply #20 on:** August 25, 2004, 10:19:25 pm »

There is something to be said for "selling out" but they could have done it w/o sacrificing their musical integrity. Like Marcial wrote they were a completely different band and he is right they were a Band now they are a group of millionaires who get together and play pop songs.

davepeck · « **Reply #21 on:** August 26, 2004, 07:39:19 am »

wow, what a convenient set-up for people to trash DMB and their music! this thread will be the example we all will use on how to mix wit and humor to craft unpredictable punch lines against the bands we love to hate.

well done everybody!

leith & todd - if you think for a second that this band doesn\'t jam anymore, PLEASE do yourselves a favor and listen to the central park show.. i don\'t care if you steal it, download it, whatever.. but that show contains some of the BEST jamming i\'ve ever heard from ANY band.. seriously..

leith · « **Reply #22 on:** August 26, 2004, 09:22:06 am »

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Originally posted by davepeck
wow, what a convenient set-up for people to trash DMB and their music! this thread will be the example we all will use on how to mix wit and humor to craft unpredictable punch lines against the bands we love to hate.

well done everybody!

leith & todd - if you think for a second that this band doesn\'t jam anymore, PLEASE do yourselves a favor and listen to the central park show.. i don\'t care if you steal it, download it, whatever.. but that show contains some of the BEST jamming i\'ve ever heard from ANY band.. seriously..

Really Now? OK will do .

Todd · « **Reply #23 on:** August 26, 2004, 09:38:21 am »

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Originally posted by davepeck
leith & todd - if you think for a second that this band doesn\'t jam anymore, PLEASE do yourselves a favor and listen to the central park show.. i don\'t care if you steal it, download it, whatever.. but that show contains some of the BEST jamming i\'ve ever heard from ANY band.. seriously..

What\'s that? You\'re gonna burn me a copy?

davepeck · « **Reply #24 on:** August 26, 2004, 10:13:12 am »

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Originally posted by Todd

What\'s that? You\'re gonna burn me a copy?

that\'ll work too.

you comin\' saturday? if so, i\'ll have it ready for ya.

Todd · « **Reply #25 on:** August 26, 2004, 10:23:08 am »

Yes, and I\'ll bring blanks. Thanks!
p.s.~ anything else I can bring? (besides beer and buds?)

davepeck · « **Reply #26 on:** August 26, 2004, 10:45:12 am »

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Originally posted by Todd
Yes, and I\'ll bring blanks. Thanks!
p.s.~ anything else I can bring? (besides beer and buds?)

nah.. just don\'t forget your swimmies!!

Marcial · « **Reply #27 on:** August 26, 2004, 02:00:32 pm »

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Originally posted by leith
they were a Band now they are a group of millionaires who get together and play pop songs.

Exactly. Which would you rather be? Me personally, I would take jam challanged millionaire any day of the week.

leith · « **Reply #28 on:** August 26, 2004, 02:21:49 pm »

If I could truly play an instrument or sing as well as any of those millionaires I would choose my music in a new york second. Being able to play music that truly mattered to me and actually moved people towards more peaceful action or touched them to their soul is WAAAAAAAAY more important to me personally than any amount of $$$$. I have given up better paying jobs on principle for jobs @ less pay but more satisfying to my conscience. I am just saying that dmb was doing just fine not toeing the company line and it\'s fine they sold out. It\'s their choice to give up improvisation except for "special events" and it\'s my choice to no longer give them my $$$ and to give it to musicians still willing to risk their reputation on the unknown jam. Peck mentioned that dmb jammed @ the Central Park concert, now there is orchestrated jamming and "seat of the pants" jamming. I prefer the latter and any jamming i have seen dmb do lately has been the former and i can only expect such until I see it. So we disagree yet again Marcial .lol

Marcial · « **Reply #29 on:** August 26, 2004, 03:18:24 pm »

Yep, I guess so.... those guys used to travel the country in an old beat-up van to play shows... now, they travel the GLOBE on the band jet to play shows.

Also, not to be argumentative (yeah right), but I guarantee their music has "touched" more people now than it ever would have had they not "sold out". Different people, granted, but definitely way more.