fair enough, wolfy. i was tired and grumpy when i wrote that and all i saw was silly bickering. but i do still think this bickering is very silly.
a few points if i may:
1. SCA is song. The structure (or lack thereof) may be ever evolving and changing, but the band recognizes this as a song and writes it on setlists, therefore it belongs on our setlists.
2. certain songs include jams. for example, after the first verse of buquebus, there is always a jam in d minor or d phrygian or any altered offshoot of those. then, at the end of the song, there is a G dorian jam that often segues into other tunes, or ends in that buquebus "theme". so on a setlist, this would look like "buquebus", not "buquebus>jam>buquebus>jam".
however, there are other times when the band will just start kicking a grove around and end up having it segue into another song. sure, they might tease the song they\'re about to play during this jam, but it doesn\'t mean that the jam has become part of the song. if the jam is not intrinsic to the song\'s structure, then it deserves it\'s own notation on the setlist, just like the jam > no regret example dave gave earlier.
i\'ve seen tapers who are unfamiliar with the band mix up the spots where "jam>" is appropriate in the setlist, so i can see someone thinking that there is little rhyme or reason to this, but look at all of dave\'s recordings and you will see the proper format.
what the hell am i doing up at 9am on a sunday? i havent been to church in many years and i sure as
**** ain\'t going running or anything.