Author Topic: Peck/Vallo Matrix Sbds appreciation thread (Read 4007 times)

Me! · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2006, 04:56:39 pm »

^^I gotta get a copy of that newtown show.

your right not the greatest from the band but there were a couple gems I dug the WUIAC from that night

Overexjoesure · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2006, 04:56:59 pm »

It would be nice if folks had options. A huge part of getting the boys out their is shows. I for one know if I was a n00b I\'d want a good, solid, clean recording. I just feel a lot of the AUD recordings have a lot of echo to them, which leads to certain parts (mainly bass and keys) being washed out at times. I can understand the band not wanting SBDS out there once they play the theater circuit, but until that day comes.....MATRICES OR MATRIXES.... BRAH

Me! · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2006, 04:58:37 pm »

Well they\'re not allowed sooooooo.......................

Overexjoesure · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2006, 05:07:26 pm »

Was that rule sent here on stone from God himself? I hope said rule gets morphed into something more appealing to my earholes.

Me! · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2006, 05:11:50 pm »

no not god the band wich in our world is all we need their music their rules

ChrisF · « **Reply #20 on:** January 23, 2006, 06:04:01 pm »

Quote from: Me!

no not god the band wich in our world is all we need their music their rules

we need punctuation too. just a little bit though.

Me! · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2006, 06:05:07 pm »

no not god the band.
wich in our world is all we need.
their music their rules!

How\'s that better?

kindm's · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2006, 06:12:49 pm »

Quote from: TreyChica

Was that rule sent here on stone from God himself? I hope said rule gets morphed into something more appealing to my earholes.

perhaps buy a recording rig which allows you to make matrix recordings and then you can record exactly how your ears like to hear music. This is usually what gets folks to jump in and join the tapers

ChrisF · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2006, 06:12:49 pm »

Quote from: Me!

no not god the band.
wich in our world is all we need.
their music their rules!

How\'s that better?

yes. if you had posted that the first time i would not have wasted valueable time deciphering that sentence that could have been better spent listening to the breakfast!

kindm's · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2006, 06:17:51 pm »

Quote from: kindm\'s

Quote from: TreyChica
Was that rule sent here on stone from God himself? I hope said rule gets morphed into something more appealing to my earholes.

perhaps buy a recording rig which allows you to make matrix recordings and then you can record exactly how your ears like to hear music. This is usually what gets folks to jump in and join the tapers

Tapers do a lot of things differently. Many folks including myself DO NOT like to color the music in any fashion. For example when I record or do post work I only add gain. Some folks will do a lot of post production fixing levels, equalizing etc. which is fine but my goal is more of an archival process as Chris stated what you heard while at the show. Some tapers normalize, equalize etc etc to suit their musical tastes or their ears which you can do as well.

A lot of the tapers in the Breakfast community adhere to the same ideas as I do but that doesn\'t mean they have to, your recording you can do with it what you want. I leave the mix up to Dobz

Overexjoesure · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2006, 06:20:39 pm »

kindm\'s, I would but unfortunately I STILL wouldn\'t be able to make a matrix recording. I think it\'s a bad business move on the bands behalf.

I dont mean to sound unappreciative to the tapers. I really do applaud everyone for their hard work. I just want the best for the band, like many of you do.

Me! · « **Reply #26 on:** January 23, 2006, 06:21:33 pm »

Quote from: ChrisF

Quote from: Me!
no not god the band.
wich in our world is all we need.
their music their rules!

How\'s that better?

yes. if you had posted that the first time i would not have wasted valueable time deciphering that sentence that could have been better spent listening to the breakfast!

:wah: ChrisFitz breakin my balls!!! wow!;)

kindm's · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2006, 06:29:42 pm »

If the issue is with the bands taping policy of No Boards I understand what you are saying but know that many matrix recordings have been and are still being done. I guess if they are using it to set the typical AUD apart from the disclogic stuff it makes sense it just means a longer wait and a few bucks.

Dobz and the band are very accomodating when they can be. If you were there early and wanted to run a matrix I dont see it as being an issue they will just ask that the show doesn\'t get bit torrented etc. they might even use it for their stuff and give you a nod.

The policy is pretty standard in taping circles. It is usually so the soundman isn\'t getting bothered by folks wanting to plug in and having top worry about some **** turning on phantom power and frying the soundboard (which has happen to some very big acts)

Bands like the radiators always have a patchbay at shows so you can come up and plug in but that is very very very rare in general and nowadays almost unheard of.

Overexjoesure · « **Reply #28 on:** January 23, 2006, 06:39:16 pm »

kndm\'s who is the bass player in your avatar? It looks like the bass player from Nektar...

ChrisF · « **Reply #29 on:** January 23, 2006, 07:14:04 pm »

Quote from: kindm\'s

Tapers do a lot of things differently. Many folks including myself DO NOT like to color the music in any fashion. For example when I record or do post work I only add gain. Some folks will do a lot of post production fixing levels, equalizing etc. which is fine but my goal is more of an archival process as Chris stated what you heard while at the show. Some tapers normalize, equalize etc etc to suit their musical tastes or their ears which you can do as well.

i dont want to color the audio, but i will do a lot to them in protools before splitting the tracks. i will fix the levels sometimes if there are major inconstencies, but thats usually only if some kind of problem happened and it needs to be corrected. i will sometimes EQ slightly if necessary. if the low end is way too much on my montiors i will bring it down a little. it depends on the venue and the recording. I also separate L+R and set their levels indivdually because its impossible to get them that precise at the show. after that i will always use the L2 to master the final mix.

I make sure the recording is optimized to sound best on my monitors because thats the most important thing to me. its really important to some tapers to keep it completely raw, so what they recorded off the mics is exactly whats goes out for trade, but i dont see the point in doing that when i can make it sound just a little bit better.