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Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: derickw on June 21, 2007, 08:18:10 am
Quote from: FreeSpirit;149756
As much as I love good, "quality" beer, I still love my Bud Light.  For many reasons, some of which have already been mentioned:

#1 it\'s cheap
b.  it\'s yellow beer
and lastly, it\'s American brewed
4th, it\'s lite, only spelled differently. ;)

there\'s only one LITE beer.... the President of Beers... Miller Lite
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: FreeSpirit on June 20, 2007, 08:09:12 pm
As much as I love good, "quality" beer, I still love my Bud Light.  For many reasons, some of which have already been mentioned:

#1 it\'s cheap
b.  it\'s yellow beer
and lastly, it\'s American brewed
4th, it\'s lite, only spelled differently. ;)
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: jocelyn on June 20, 2007, 07:59:34 pm
That sounds wretched.

The only way I will drink Corona is with tequila added. That\'s actually not terrible.

Newcastle is too sweet. Also... I have not found any other beer that has such a high percentage of turned beers floating around. What is the deal with that? And Stella... ugh. I swear people around here drink it just so they can drink out of those stupid gold-rimmed glasses.

I do enjoy Guinness but it is one of the blandest stouts I have ever tried.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Todd on June 20, 2007, 07:46:14 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;149720
New Product:

Quote from: RealBeer;149719
Tired of messing around with lime and salt every time you want to drink a Corona?

Miller Brewing wants to make your life easier. Aiming at the Hispanic market, Miller is introducing a beer already flavored with lime and salt.

Miller Chill, modeled after a popular style of Mexican beer called a ?chelada,? will be test marketed throughout Florida, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and San Diego, said Pete Marino, a spokesman for the Milwaukee-based brewer. The company hopes to eventually expand the line nationwide, he said.

The lime green bottles feature green and silver modular designs reminiscent of Aztec art, with the word ?Chill? in bold black letters across the front and ?Chelada style?

:yack2: If you have to add anything to your beer, is it worth drinking? I think not.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Spacey on June 20, 2007, 05:01:36 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;149720
New Product:

Quote from: RealBeer;149719
Tired of messing around with lime and salt every time you want to drink a Corona?

Miller Brewing wants to make your life easier. Aiming at the Hispanic market, Miller is introducing a beer already flavored with lime and salt.

Miller Chill, modeled after a popular style of Mexican beer called a ?chelada,? will be test marketed throughout Florida, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and San Diego, said Pete Marino, a spokesman for the Milwaukee-based brewer. The company hopes to eventually expand the line nationwide, he said.

The lime green bottles feature green and silver modular designs reminiscent of Aztec art, with the word ?Chill? in bold black letters across the front and ?Chelada style?

considering that Corona is already Mexican **** in a bottle, I don\'t see how this can be any good but will probably be successful in those markets.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: skalnbyc on June 20, 2007, 04:54:32 pm
New Product:

Quote from: RealBeer;149719
Tired of messing around with lime and salt every time you want to drink a Corona?

Miller Brewing wants to make your life easier. Aiming at the Hispanic market, Miller is introducing a beer already flavored with lime and salt.

Miller Chill, modeled after a popular style of Mexican beer called a ?chelada,? will be test marketed throughout Florida, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and San Diego, said Pete Marino, a spokesman for the Milwaukee-based brewer. The company hopes to eventually expand the line nationwide, he said.

The lime green bottles feature green and silver modular designs reminiscent of Aztec art, with the word ?Chill? in bold black letters across the front and ?Chelada style?
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Mark on June 20, 2007, 04:47:32 pm
When Evelyn\'s cousins from Ireland/England come here to visit, the only things I typically see them drink are Bud and Stella.  Stella is absolutely disgusting in my book.

I would say England, Scotland (Firkin Pubs, Oh Yeah!), and Austria have pretty good beer cultures too.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: booztravlr on June 20, 2007, 03:31:04 pm
Quote from: Wolfman;149696
These beers go right into the file of "Average beer packaged with import stigma" along with the likes of Stella Artois, Bass, Heineken, Amstel Light, Carlsberg, Dos Equis, Brahma, Corona, Newcastle, and about 100 others.  They\'re all cheap to make and range from lousy to decent at best, but it\'s the import stigma that sells the stuff.

im a little surprised to see stella and newcastle on your list. newcastle is a fantastic beer and its by far the beer ive had the most since football season started last fall. what dont you like about it? im not trying to get into a \'my beer is better than your beer\' debate, im just curious why you included these two beers with crap like heineken, carlsberg, corona and so on. ive had my fair share of american microbrews (last time i counted, +230...i have a beer bottle collection) so i feel i can tell the difference between good and bad beers. newcastle is def in my top 20 of all beers.

side note...rogue is the best brewery in the US imo.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Wolfman on June 20, 2007, 02:28:49 pm
Quote from: Mark;149666
The beer in Ireland for the most part sucks balls. Tasteless bland crap (except for Guiness).
Typical tap lineup:
Heineken :vomit2:
Carlsberg :vomit:
Budweiser :pukedon:
Guinness :beer:
and Caffreys, Smithwicks or Harp - not much flavor at all.

Give me a good American microbrew any day.

Oh and any talk of Guinness being served warm and being better over there=hogwash.

It\'s funny how, because of Guinness, Ireland gets this rep for being a beer culture when it isn\'t at all.  There are only three Irish beers that matter: Harp, Smithwick\'s and Guinness.  One light lager, one amber ale, and one stout is all that country ever came up with.    Whoop-ee.  These beers go right into the file of "Average beer packaged with import stigma" along with the likes of Stella Artois, Bass, Heineken, Amstel Light, Carlsberg, Dos Equis, Brahma, Corona, Newcastle, and about 100 others.  They\'re all cheap to make and range from lousy to decent at best, but it\'s the import stigma that sells the stuff.  Take Guinness liquid and package it as Harpoon Irish Stout or something like that and nobody is going to swear by it.  And please don\'t even bring up Guinness knock-offs Murphy\'s, Ohara\'s, and Beamish....who cares?  How about I name you 250 American craft breweries that make ten or more beers apiece, and after that I\'ll name you 25 light lagers, 25 amber ales, and 25 stouts made in America that will wreck Harp, Smithwick\'s and Guinness.  And the vast majority of all the Harp, Smithwick\'s and Guinness in the world isn\'t made in Ireland anyhow.  I actually have no problem with the fact that it isn\'t made in Ireland, you can make the same stuff here that you can there.  It\'s just another funny thing to think about given how people think Ireland is a beer destination when it isn\'t.  Germany and Belgium are the only countries that can stand up to the U.S. right now for overall beer portfolio, although lots of other countries such as Russia and Czechoslovakia have good beer cultures too.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Spacey on June 20, 2007, 02:16:23 pm
Quote from: derickw;149661
Quote from: Spacey;149651
Quote from: derickw;149645
thats because they\'re a bunch of ****

bloody ****.

you going to tell that that you are English and try to start a fight?

Bring me home some leprechauns.

i kind of have a sadistic sense of humor, i enjoy getting people all worked up and ready to throw down while i could honestly careless about the argument i provoked. i just find it kind of funny how somethings can really get to people. I\'m 100% Polish but if it means i can rile up some Irish punks into pounding some beers i\'ll be English for a couple hours.

take home gift from Ireland:
1 Leprechaun for Spacey_ check

thanks Brimley. I think I will call my leprechaun, Walter Brisby.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: SlimPickens on June 20, 2007, 12:28:22 pm
Quote from: derickw;149582
Quote from: jocelyn;149569
No. He is not. He would be doing a lot more lecturing and **** if he was. Trying to teach people lessons etc.

you obviously have never spent a good amount of time around this kid, he\'s the Dali Lama of nonsensicle nonsense

more honest words have never been spoken
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: kindm's on June 20, 2007, 12:03:46 pm
Guinness just isn\'t that good.

Low alcohol content and muddy. They fill you up and suck on hot days.

It certainly is never in my mind when buying beer. Unless Tim is gonna be around. he is the only  person I know that drinks it, oh and Wah but I haven\'t seen him in ages
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Mark on June 20, 2007, 11:58:20 am
The beer in Ireland for the most part sucks balls. Tasteless bland crap (except for Guiness).
Typical tap lineup:
Heineken :vomit2:
Carlsberg :vomit:
Budweiser :pukedon:
Guinness :beer:
and Caffreys, Smithwicks or Harp - not much flavor at all.

Give me a good American microbrew any day.

Oh and any talk of Guinness being served warm and being better over there=hogwash.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: derickw on June 20, 2007, 11:51:57 am
Quote from: Spacey;149651
Quote from: derickw;149645
thats because they\'re a bunch of ****

bloody ****.

you going to tell that that you are English and try to start a fight?

Bring me home some leprechauns.

i kind of have a sadistic sense of humor, i enjoy getting people all worked up and ready to throw down while i could honestly careless about the argument i provoked. i just find it kind of funny how somethings can really get to people. I\'m 100% Polish but if it means i can rile up some Irish punks into pounding some beers i\'ll be English for a couple hours.

take home gift from Ireland:
1 Leprechaun for Spacey_ check
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Spacey on June 20, 2007, 11:28:57 am
Quote from: derickw;149645
thats because they\'re a bunch of ****

bloody ****.

you going to tell that that you are English and try to start a fight?

Bring me home some leprechauns.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: booztravlr on June 20, 2007, 11:28:18 am
^ ZING!

i think the only real way to settle this is to shotgun guinness on block island. team gladys kicking ass and taking names.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: derickw on June 20, 2007, 10:48:31 am
thats because they\'re a bunch of ****
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Spacey on June 20, 2007, 10:25:04 am
Quote from: derickw;149634
Quote from: Spacey;149602
Quote from: derickw;149597
SWEET! i\'m going to Ireland next year and the first thing io do when i get off the plane is i\'m headed to the Factory of Goodness.... like my own version of Willy Wonka land

work or pleasure?

my girls friend is getting married to an Irish guy and they are having one small wedding here for her family and another over there for his family.... good enough reason to go as far as i\'m concerned. I can\'t wait to drink those Irish pussies under the table:beer::gulp::beerban:

on first read, I saw girlfriend then on second read I saw girls friend. clear now and it is a good enough reason. I heard the Irish don\'t even drink Guinness.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: derickw on June 20, 2007, 08:59:58 am
Quote from: Spacey;149602
Quote from: derickw;149597
SWEET! i\'m going to Ireland next year and the first thing io do when i get off the plane is i\'m headed to the Factory of Goodness.... like my own version of Willy Wonka land

work or pleasure?

my girls friend is getting married to an Irish guy and they are having one small wedding here for her family and another over there for his family.... good enough reason to go as far as i\'m concerned. I can\'t wait to drink those Irish pussies under the table:beer::gulp::beerban:
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: tmn8r1 on June 19, 2007, 08:51:35 pm
my irish blood is boiling
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Spacey on June 19, 2007, 05:30:53 pm
Quote from: derickw;149597
SWEET! i\'m going to Ireland next year and the first thing io do when i get off the plane is i\'m headed to the Factory of Goodness.... like my own version of Willy Wonka land

work or pleasure?
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Yoda on June 19, 2007, 04:39:59 pm
Dang!  I really hope that this doesn\'t go through.  With the little guy on the way, it\'s going to be a while before we can afford to get over over there.

On another note, if there\'s anyone in Norther Jersey on .info, a really good Irish pub opened up in Clifton - The Shannon Rose - they have a replica of St. Jame\'s Gate in the front.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: skalnbyc on June 19, 2007, 04:23:29 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;149548
cliffs notes request=sent

Quote from: SlimPickens;149546
Sales of Guinness fell about 7 per cent in New Haven in the final six months of last year, as Freddiewaht was less frequently seen with a halfyard in hand.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: derickw on June 19, 2007, 04:19:41 pm
SWEET! i\'m going to Ireland next year and the first thing io do when i get off the plane is i\'m headed to the Factory of Goodness.... like my own version of Willy Wonka land
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Wolfman on June 19, 2007, 04:01:28 pm
The good news for all you Guinness drinkers here is that this has no effect whatsoever on the U.S. Guinness supply.  

Also, plans on shifting brewing locations and capacity (or any type of manufacturing) can take years to make.  If this decision is "in the very early stages", it will be at least 2 years before anything changes.  So no need to panic, but if visiting the original Guinness brewery is on your life\'s to-do list, you might want to start getting the wheels in motion just in case.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Spacey on June 19, 2007, 03:48:59 pm
Quote from: phirehead;149572
Quote from: Spacey;149552
Let us see the pics!

I knew I knew that I knew someone who went, I knew it.

Sounds like you knew it.

I\'ll bring them over to plainandsimple\'s the next time you come over-these are ACTUAL pictures... way before I had a digital camera where I could delete all the shitty/shitfaced ones.

sounds good. be interesting to see said photos.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: derickw on June 19, 2007, 03:32:28 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;149569
No. He is not. He would be doing a lot more lecturing and **** if he was. Trying to teach people lessons etc.

you obviously have never spent a good amount of time around this kid, he\'s the Dali Lama of nonsensicle nonsense
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: kindm's on June 19, 2007, 03:31:29 pm
Quote from: Spacey;149579
Quote from: jocelyn;149569
No. He is not. He would be doing a lot more lecturing and **** if he was. Trying to teach people lessons etc.

I do. The lessons are encoded and encrypted in the things I say. Those who listen closely learn more than they could ever hope for.

Oompa Loompa doompety doo
I\'ve got a perfect puzzle for you
Oompa Loompa doompety dee
If you are wise you\'ll listen to me

/ Am - - G / - Am F E7 / 1st / - Am E7 Am /

  What do you get when you guzzle down sweets
  Eating as much as an elephant eats
  What are you at, getting terribly fat
  What do you think will come of that
  I don\'t like the look of it

  / F - - C / G - C - / F - C - / B7 - - A7 B7 - / B7 - /

Oompa Loompa doompety da
If you\'re not greedy, you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doompety do
Doompety do
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Spacey on June 19, 2007, 03:26:46 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;149569
No. He is not. He would be doing a lot more lecturing and **** if he was. Trying to teach people lessons etc.

I do. The lessons are encoded and encrypted in the things I say. Those who listen closely learn more than they could ever hope for.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: phirehead on June 19, 2007, 03:13:55 pm
Quote from: Spacey;149552
Let us see the pics!

I knew I knew that I knew someone who went, I knew it.

Sounds like you knew it.

I\'ll bring them over to plainandsimple\'s the next time you come over-these are ACTUAL pictures... way before I had a digital camera where I could delete all the shitty/shitfaced ones.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: jocelyn on June 19, 2007, 03:01:38 pm
No. He is not. He would be doing a lot more lecturing and **** if he was. Trying to teach people lessons etc.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Todd on June 19, 2007, 02:58:31 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;149556
Spacey I don\'t like your avatar one bit. Creeps me the **** out. I hate oompa loompas.

Spacey is an oompa loompa!
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: jocelyn on June 19, 2007, 02:41:51 pm
I\'ve been as well and I must say...

Spacey I don\'t like your avatar one bit. Creeps me the **** out. I hate oompa loompas.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Spacey on June 19, 2007, 01:40:31 pm
Let us see the pics!

I knew I knew that I knew someone who went, I knew it.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: phirehead on June 19, 2007, 01:04:10 pm
Quote from: Spacey;149547
Interesting.

If it is brewed at 50 sites around the world, how would I know the difference of one brewed at St. James Gate?

I assume someone here has been to the Guiness Brewery in Ireland. (I\'m leaning towards Drew Kingsley)

They are still planning on keeping it in Dublin, Ireland so thats good but how can you pass on a 9000 year lease. Definitely thinking ahead or Ireland hadn\'t much hope for more than Guinness.

I went when I visited Ireland and I have to say it was the highlight of my trip. The place is huge-I got some really great pics. But the best was at the end of the tour and you\'re in the bar which is at the very top and you\'re surrounded by windows that look out over all of Dublin. You really can\'t beat that view.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Spacey on June 19, 2007, 12:48:51 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;149548
cliffs notes request=sent

Basically Guinness is looking to upgrade its facilities from St. James Gate the original site of Guinness since 1759 and they are reviewing reports to see what will be done.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: freddiewaht on June 19, 2007, 12:44:00 pm
cliffs notes request=sent
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: Spacey on June 19, 2007, 12:38:22 pm
Interesting.

If it is brewed at 50 sites around the world, how would I know the difference of one brewed at St. James Gate?

I assume someone here has been to the Guiness Brewery in Ireland. (I\'m leaning towards Drew Kingsley)

They are still planning on keeping it in Dublin, Ireland so thats good but how can you pass on a 9000 year lease. Definitely thinking ahead or Ireland hadn\'t much hope for more than Guinness.
Title: Potential Guinness disaster in the works
Post by: SlimPickens on June 19, 2007, 12:28:46 pm
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/0618/breaking59.htm

Diageo mulls options for Guinness brewery

Diageo Plc said today it was reviewing brewing operations in Ireland after media reported the drinks giant may quit the Dublin city centre site where Guinness has been brewed for almost 250 years.

"The Diageo brewing business is considering a number of important investment decisions on upgrading and renewing its brewing facilities in Ireland in the coming years," the company said in a statement.

The review was at a "very early stage" and a report in the Sunday Independent newspaper that the company was preparing to move from its landmark St James\'s Gate site on the banks of Dublin\'s River Liffey was "speculation", Diageo added.

"No decisions have been made or will be made until the assessment is completed," the world\'s largest alcoholic drinks company said.

The site, where Arthur Guinness took out a 9,000 year lease on a disused brewery in 1759, has grown into what the brewer now describes as "a prime 64 acre (25 hectare) slice of Dublin".

The Sunday Independent reported the land could fetch as much as ?3 billion if Diageo implements plans to move production to a greenfield site on the outskirts of the capital.

Sales of Guinness, which gets its trademark dark colour from roasted barley, fell about 7 per cent in Ireland in the final six months of last year.

David Gosnell, Diageo\'s managing director for global supply, said it would be 2008 at least before the company completes its review.

"Diageo fully recognises the huge importance of St James\'s Gate in the history of Guinness and Dublin city and this important aspect of our brand and heritage will be fully embraced in the assessment," he said.

Guinness is brewed at almost 50 sites around the world but some 500 million litres of the stout are still produced at St James\'s Gate, which also houses a visitor centre, shop, bars and restaurants.