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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: Stephengencs on May 29, 2007, 05:02:12 pm
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OMC, you make a fantastic point in this thread, and your friend of a friend friends\'s comments in the vibes thread are excellent as well.......thanks for the input and advice. Now, I guess the next step is to do something.......
This thread is closed as far as I am concerned.....
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WormTown=not fans of the breakfast
As for Gadiel.... Yeah, I can see that. TLG wouldn\'t be where they are today without this man\'s undying love.
Wrong.
To sum this whole thread up in a nut shell.
When is the last time anyone from management, band or community took someone from Jambands out for dinner and drinks?
Answer that question and you will have your answer to why no love.
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slim pickens wins best post of the year award, EASILY!!!
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well put Wolfy!
excellent post by chag, definitely my favorite of the week
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You two ass clowns have railroaded this thread. Why don\'t you take it to a private room.
Now about the utter lack of respect shown in that JB review. Let\'s face it, the writing is on the wall, it\'s in the cards and the chicken bones have been tossed and analyzed. This band needs to take immediate action.
Disband the band, change their names and appearances and reform as the ultimate clich? jamband. Their beautiful artistic vision is taking them no where.
Step 1:
Ronnie should gain 50 lbs., grow his hair into a tangled birds nest and start going by the name Robert Dossier.
Tim should return to that ex-con look he had going back in \'01. Shaved head, prison issued glasses, tie dye t. He should only answer to Vikki.
Animal... well, we all know that Animal is perfect. However, despite this obvious fact, he should change his name to Moonbrah.
Step 2:
They will reform as Wilford Brimley\'s American Liberty.
Step 3:
They will abandon all devastating rock music in favor of rehashed, mindless, build and release jams.
Step 4:
They will incorporate goofy crowd interaction fun time into their shows. Maybe hire a midget gimp that they can throw into the audience and do a gimp jam.
We\'re through the looking glass here folks.
This has been your Wilford Brimley message.
Crap! SlimPickens usurps my "Leith-becomes-a-mod" post (http://thebreakfast.info/forum/showpost.php?p=146592&postcount=33) for Post Of The Month honors with 1 day to spare. Nicely done Slimpickens!
As for the whole deal, the anger for me is potent but not sparked by shock. It always makes me really mad when stuff like this happens and I already wrote to jambands.com. However, none of this **** shocks me at all anymore, just seen too much of it. I\'m sorry if this is news to anyone, but when you signed up for ser Breakfast fandom, this is part of what you signed up for. It\'s like marrying a girl who\'s great in pretty much every way but she happens to go through manic depressive spells a couple of times a year and there\'s nothing you can do about it. You just gotta navigate through the rough spots and what\'s left after that is pretty much all awesome all the time.
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Like I said Steve, Dean Budnick. He IS the bottom line. Other people to **** about: Benj Eisen, Mike Greenhaus, Aeve Baldwin, and the lack of a general fanbase that refuses to make this band a buzz word.
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rotfl & Shagadelic, I\'m buying you a shot tonight for that post! Lmfao!!!
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Like I said Steve, Dean Budnick. He IS the bottom line. Other people to **** about: Benj Eisen, Mike Greenhaus, Aeve Baldwin, and the lack of a general fanbase that refuses to make this band a buzz word.
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PS. there is gonna be a Full Moonbrah tonight > tomorrow
super!
it\'ll only be 98% tonight
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PS. there is gonna be a Full Moonbrah tonight > tomorrow
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excellent post Slimpickens, I like the name Wilford Brimley\'s American Liberty, moonbrah.
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PS. you forgot to add that Greg Ellis should start calling himself GE9
fair enough brah!!
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You two ass clowns have railroaded this thread. Why don\'t you take it to a private room.
Now about the utter lack of respect shown in that JB review. Let\'s face it, the writing is on the wall, it\'s in the cards and the chicken bones have been tossed and analyzed. This band needs to take immediate action.
Disband the band, change their names and appearances and reform as the ultimate clich? jamband. Their beautiful artistic vision is taking them no where.
Step 1:
Ronnie should gain 50 lbs., grow his hair into a tangled birds nest and start going by the name Robert Dossier.
Tim should return to that ex-con look he had going back in \'01. Shaved head, prison issued glasses, tie dye t. He should only answer to Vikki.
Animal... well, we all know that Animal is perfect. However, despite this obvious fact, he should change his name to Moonbrah.
Step 2:
They will reform as Wilford Brimley\'s American Liberty.
Step 3:
They will abandon all devastating rock music in favor of rehashed, mindless, build and release jams.
Step 4:
They will incorporate goofy crowd interaction fun time into their shows. Maybe hire a midget gimp that they can throw into the audience and do a gimp jam.
We\'re through the looking glass here folks.
This has been your Wilford Brimley message.
SO FUNNY I HAD TO QUOTE IT AGAIN.....
Joe, dispite our differences of opinions over time, I like you and respect your knowledge and opinon, however, you should get your lips off the dick and ass of these **** who refuse to recognize the tallent and power of The Breakfast.....
PS. you forgot to add that Greg Ellis should start calling himself GE9
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my hostility is coming from JJarnow thinking he is bigger than the scene that made him what he is today.......
I doubt he thinks he\'s bigger. Jesse is a very humble person. I think his tastes has evolved, which is the ideal situation for anyone who is a hint passionate and sincere about music. He\'s a freelance writer, he has to pay the bills, so he sticks with jambands.com/Relix.
Like I said before, if you want to be pissed off, be pissed off at Dean Budnick.
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You two ass clowns have railroaded this thread. Why don\'t you take it to a private room.
Now about the utter lack of respect shown in that JB review. Let\'s face it, the writing is on the wall, it\'s in the cards and the chicken bones have been tossed and analyzed. This band needs to take immediate action.
Disband the band, change their names and appearances and reform as the ultimate cliché jamband. Their beautiful artistic vision is taking them no where.
Step 1:
Ronnie should gain 50 lbs., grow his hair into a tangled birds nest and start going by the name Robert Dossier.
Tim should return to that ex-con look he had going back in \'01. Shaved head, prison issued glasses, tie dye t. He should only answer to Vikki.
Animal... well, we all know that Animal is perfect. However, despite this obvious fact, he should change his name to Moonbrah.
Step 2:
They will reform as Wilford Brimley\'s American Liberty.
Step 3:
They will abandon all devastating rock music in favor of rehashed, mindless, build and release jams.
Step 4:
They will incorporate goofy crowd interaction fun time into their shows. Maybe hire a midget gimp that they can throw into the audience and do a gimp jam.
We\'re through the looking glass here folks.
This has been your Wilford Brimley message.
lol :rotfl: lol :rotfl: lol lol lol lol :rotfl: lol :rotfl: lol
So who\'s hittin up Vikki Tour tonight at Richters?
Great post and concept Mr. Chagnon.....
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You two ass clowns have railroaded this thread. Why don\'t you take it to a private room.
Now about the utter lack of respect shown in that JB review. Let\'s face it, the writing is on the wall, it\'s in the cards and the chicken bones have been tossed and analyzed. This band needs to take immediate action.
Disband the band, change their names and appearances and reform as the ultimate clich? jamband. Their beautiful artistic vision is taking them no where.
Step 1:
Ronnie should gain 50 lbs., grow his hair into a tangled birds nest and start going by the name Robert Dossier.
Tim should return to that ex-con look he had going back in \'01. Shaved head, prison issued glasses, tie dye t. He should only answer to Vikki.
Animal... well, we all know that Animal is perfect. However, despite this obvious fact, he should change his name to Moonbrah.
Step 2:
They will reform as Wilford Brimley\'s American Liberty.
Step 3:
They will abandon all devastating rock music in favor of rehashed, mindless, build and release jams.
Step 4:
They will incorporate goofy crowd interaction fun time into their shows. Maybe hire a midget gimp that they can throw into the audience and do a gimp jam.
We\'re through the looking glass here folks.
This has been your Wilford Brimley message.
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my hostility is coming from JJarnow thinking he is bigger than the scene that made him what he is today.......
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I still stand by my shennanigans call that Jarnow\'s review is the reason for the breakup of phish......That exerpt proves absolutely nothing to me.....
No matter how good a writer he is, it doesnt mean he isnt an full of **** windbag douchefuck, who thinks that his opinions are the words of the jamband bible....**** Jesse Jarnow. **** him in his stupid ass......
Tell us how you really feel. ;)
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I still stand by my shennanigans call that Jarnow\'s review is the reason for the breakup of phish......That exerpt proves absolutely nothing to me.....
No matter how good a writer he is, it doesnt mean he isnt an full of **** windbag douchefuck, who thinks that his opinions are the words of the jamband bible....**** Jesse Jarnow. **** him in his stupid ass......
It\'s obviously not the sole reason Steve, but it was enough to get the guys to realize the dream was over. I don\'t see where all this hostility is coming from.
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I still stand by my shennanigans call that Jarnow\'s review is the reason for the breakup of phish......That exerpt proves absolutely nothing to me.....
No matter how good a writer he is, it doesnt mean he isnt an full of **** windbag douchefuck, who thinks that his opinions are the words of the jamband bible....**** Jesse Jarnow. **** him in his stupid ass......
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thanks, treychica!
I believe I have this issue, going to grab it and read it at work.
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http://www.relix.com/Content/Interview/TOM_MARSHALL_AND_THE_SECRET_LIFE_OF_WORDS.html
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any link to the remainder of that article or know what issue that is in?
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Jarnow is an incredible writer. He tells it like it is with honesty, clarity and most importantly a diverse and experienced ear. This is an excerpt from a Tom Marshall interview on Relix.com
Trey was one of the first people to tell me what it was about and I didn’t necessarily agree until I started reading the PhantasyTour message board.
Oh, you shouldn’t do that. That’s not good for anybody. There are whole threads on that thing regarding what to do with head of Jesse Jarnow.
There was a while when he was the one who made Phish breakup because he wrote things about them becoming caricatures of themselves and then that phrase was in Trey’s resignation letter.
There were a couple of lines that were right from Jesse’s article. And Mike Gordon told Jesse himself at Coney Island—they were having a conversation about something completely unrelated—and Mike told him that his review had come up in their last band meeting and Jesse attempted to apologize and Mike said something to the effect of, “Hey you were honest and you said what you had to say.” And they moved on with their conversation.
Well, maybe he is the guy that made them break p. I can sleep better then. I’m not the guy.
d00d- Jarnow works with jambands.com, editor, writer, etc. I used to email him PB setlists...
Yeah I know, he was my editor, however he doesn\'t concentrate on the smaller things. He\'s more focused on writing features and editing reviews. When it comes down to what gets published it\'s Dean Budnick\'s decision. I would direct your disdain towards him.
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Though the quote was used in the letter, I am skeptical that Trey or any member of Phish actually wrote the whole thing on their own.....But maybe I am just naieve, stupid, or refuse to believe that any band as successful as Phish or The Grateful Dead* will let anything that some fuckwad writes in some stupid rag or on the internet bother them......
* Jarnow wrote a horrible review/commentary of a Grateful Dead show/The Grateful Dead in a Relix circa. early 80\'s. Tom, the guy who books/runs River Street Jazz Cafe, had a bunch of old Relix in the greenroom a couple of weeks back.......
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d00d- Jarnow works with jambands.com, editor, writer, etc. I used to email him PB setlists...
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Yeah, um, Jesse Jarnow is a freelance writer and has NOTHING to do with jamband politics. Sure his comments on Phish Vegas 04 lead to their demise,
Uhm to think that JJarnow and his douchey opinions led to the demise of Phish is pure stupidity. Though I didnt read his comments, to think that it was anything but Treys drug addiction and the decision of the band is pure nonsense.....Come on now Joe......Unless you can find me something that says, "Phish, because of the writings and comments of one jerk **** decides to call it quits", i am calling ser shennanigans on that comment......
and if the above comment is true regarding the demise of Phish that I would have to postulate that it truly was Leith\'s undying love for TLG that catapulted them into the jamband limelight.....
Stevie c\'mon GUY, when am I known to spout bullshit ;) Seriously, in his review of Vegas 04 Jarnow pointed out Phish becoming a nostalgia act of what they once were. Trey used the actual quote in the official letter released to the public. His review got the ball rolling, and like I said before, made the band address the 300 lb pink elephant in the room. Go onto PhantasyPhish and make a Jarnow thread, mention Vegas, and watch it grow like a demented Chia pet.
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Yeah, um, Jesse Jarnow is a freelance writer and has NOTHING to do with jamband politics. Sure his comments on Phish Vegas 04 lead to their demise,
Uhm to think that JJarnow and his douchey opinions led to the demise of Phish is pure stupidity. Though I didnt read his comments, to think that it was anything but Treys drug addiction and the decision of the band is pure nonsense.....Come on now Joe......Unless you can find me something that says, "Phish, because of the writings and comments of one jerk **** decides to call it quits", i am calling ser shennanigans on that comment......
and if the above comment is true regarding the demise of Phish that I would have to postulate that it truly was Leith\'s undying love for TLG that catapulted them into the jamband limelight.....
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WormTown=not fans of the breakfast
au contraire mon frere.. the band wouldn\'t be asked to play strangecreek three years in a row, along with other wormtown events such as their fall festival, and the mill street/wormtown show from a few months back..
sadly, it is people like andy gadiel, jesse jarnow and other "scene big wigs" who get blinded by advertising $$$$ than to actually see what\'s really going on.. and that\'s a crying fuckin shame..
Yeah, um, Jesse Jarnow is a freelance writer and has NOTHING to do with jamband politics. Sure his comments on Phish Vegas 04 lead to their demise, but at least he had the balls to point out the 300 pound pink elephant in the room. Other than that he tends to focus more on indie related acts.
As for Gadiel.... Yeah, I can see that. TLG wouldn\'t be where they are today without this man\'s undying love.
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au contraire mon frere.. the band wouldn\'t be asked to play strangecreek three years in a row, along with other wormtown events such as their fall festival, and the mill street/wormtown show from a few months back..
agreed. wormtown = big fans of the breakfast.
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au contraire mon frere.. the band wouldn\'t be asked to play strangecreek three years in a row, along with other wormtown events such as their fall festival, and the mill street/wormtown show from a few months back..
sadly, it is people like andy gadiel, jesse jarnow and other "scene big wigs" who get blinded by advertising $$$$ than to actually see what\'s really going on.. and that\'s a crying fuckin shame..
not to mention that anyone in the band or affilliated with the band sucks the ass of the "scene big wigs" which means that we get looked over constantly..... This, though sucks for us now, could lead to a huge payoff. If this Breakfast thing grows big enough, it should eventually get big enough where those jam-politicians will not be able to ignore us any longer......
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WormTown=not fans of the breakfast
au contraire mon frere.. the band wouldn\'t be asked to play strangecreek three years in a row, along with other wormtown events such as their fall festival, and the mill street/wormtown show from a few months back..
sadly, it is people like andy gadiel, jesse jarnow and other "scene big wigs" who get blinded by advertising $$$$ than to actually see what\'s really going on.. and that\'s a crying fuckin shame..
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WormTown=not fans of the breakfast
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pull my strings until the day i die:inky:
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That\'s moose crap!
Maybe OMC has some insight into this???
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wow. disappointing and discouraging since I was not completely impressed by the couple of bands I saw at Strange Creek.
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That is pretty shafty.
Maybe Breakfast should have played some Bisco covers they would have got a mention :thumbsdown:
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**** up for sure. but the reality is that it really helps to have someone pushing the press to get the breakfast name out there. just someone who knows the writers and chats them up every once in a while. no matter what business you\'re in, public relations is key... but i agree with you stevie, someone pulls the strings and it\'s all a big **** game. sucks to have to play it, but that\'s life.
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There are obviously a few people who pull and manipulate the strings in this scene, and if you dont play their game (whatever the **** that is), then you are assed out.......
I should have figured this was going to happen considering they spelled our name "Breakeast" on one version of the schedules they were handing out at the main gate.....It was eventually corrected but seriously.....
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Who the F are most of those bands anyway? Breakfast (a mainstay at the festival for a number of years) at least has some accomplishments that most of the others can not boast of.
Just what accomplishments have the Breakfast made that the other bands have not a Jammy? Big whoop.
It is not about any of the other bands but rather the fact that The Breakfast were relegated to among others when from the reports posted here they had a rather large crowd w/ a positive reaction.
Guess the writer of the article was sleeping during their set.
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News bits like this one are usually reported by a third party. Unfortunately this person must really hate Tb. However the original blurb may have included The Breakfast, and whoever edited could\'ve took them out. Either way it\'s ridiculous and should be addressed.
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Who the F are most of those bands anyway? Breakfast (a mainstay at the festival for a number of years) at least has some accomplishments that most of the others can not boast of.
Regardless of who the other bands were. I was at the festival and the Breakfast was top 3 sets of the weekend easy and thats me being really nice to other bands and not to even list them in the line up is crazy.
lame
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Who the F are most of those bands anyway? Breakfast (a mainstay at the festival for a number of years) at least has some accomplishments that most of the others can not boast of.
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well, it\'s bullshit, and there\'s no excuse for it.
i encourage everyone reading this to write in to jambands.com and speak your mind about this.
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The Breakfast: "The official red headed, bastard stepchild of the jamband scene since 1999"
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I just logged in after reading that on jambands.com to post about it. You are right it is horrible not one freakin\' mention of The Breakfast. NOT ONE!!!!! Wow!
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Collaborations Abound at Strange-Creek Campout
FROM JAMBANDS.COM
As is tradition, over the weekend Max Creek and Strangefolk marked the unofficial start of summer by co-hosting their now annual Strange-Creek Campout in Greenfield, MA. In addition to the festival?s namesake, the campout featured sets by a number of rising jam-stars, including Ryan Montbleau Band, The Bridge, Juggling Suns, Bruce Mandaro Band, Rev Tor, Fungus Amungus, Otherwise, Nate Wilson Group Somebody\'s Closet, BreadBox Band, Gutta, Domino Theory, The Attic, Unexplained Bacon, Turbine, Entrain, The Brew, Uncharted, Old School, Buzz Universe, IndoBox, Grow, Rolla and Straddle Daddy, among others. Both Max Creek and Strangefolk offered well received performances: Strangefolk?s set opened with ?Don\'t Mind Me? and featured the fitting encore ?New England,? while Max Creek bookended its show with ?In Harmony? and ?Just A Rose.? At the start of Max Creek?s second set, Max Creek drummer Greg Vasso and percussionist Tom Major also switched places for a spirited take on ?Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin).?
In the sit-in department, on Saturday Unexplained Bacon invited Juggling Suns guitarist Mark Diomede and drummer Andrew Lenaghan, as well as Jerkwater Ruckus percussionist Rich Lemire, to stage for a medley that blended the Grateful Dead\'s "Eyes of the World" with the Disco Biscuits\' " M.E.M.P.H.I.S." and Cypress Hill\'s "Hits From the Bong," before returning back to the "Eyes of the World? theme (the medley was perhaps a nod to Philadelphia?s concurrent Jam on the River festival, which featured the Disco Biscuits, Cypress Hill and Dark Star Orchestra). Later in the evening, Lemire returned to the stage for a cover of the Talking Heads\' "Cities," which spotlighted guest guitarist Chris Cartelli (from the group Give Us the Money Lebowksi).
The weekend?s collaborations continued on Sunday when the Ryan Montbleau Band welcomed former Jiggle the Handle guitarist Gary Backstrom to the stage for a cover of Jerry Garcia?s "They Love Each Other" and the Montbleau original "You Crazy You." Montbleau later got into the collaboration game himself, joining both Peter Prince & Moon Boot Lover and the Breadbox Band during their late night sets. First he gusted with Moon Boot Lover, adding vocals to a version of the Peter Prince original "Friends" and then with the Breadbox Band singing lead on a cover of Eric Clapton\'s "Lay Down Sally.? Shortly before the second song of their set, Peter Prince & Moon Boot Lover also welcomed Ryan Montbleau Band/Nate Wilson Group percussionist Yahuba Garcia to the stage for the remainder of their performance. Ryan Montbleau Band\'s Larry Scudder later added viola to the Prince original "Blood Undercover."