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General Discussions => Tribal Funk Affliction => Topic started by: freddiewaht on May 18, 2007, 04:19:46 pm
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If you guys like this Wilco album look into Califone or The Clientele, really interesting stuff that I think you would love.
Totally agree. I love The Clinetele. Their Strange Geometry CD has this beautiful song, "I can\'t seem to make you mine". And their new CD, Bookshop Casanova has this song, "Girl from Somewhere" that is also sweet. I recommend checking them out too.
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If you guys like this Wilco album look into Califone or The Clientele, really interesting stuff that I think you would love.
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I just wanted to add thanks to Wah for turning me onto Wilco. That little jaunt around the neighborhood listening to them stuck.
Great Band. Awesome songs.
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Mark=Ozzie Smith of the Breakfast scene....
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thanks robyn!
and mark, he is kinda cute, but i think i\'d probably break him...
and jill would be PISSED!!! :lol:
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no untz!! :dj: :thumbsdow
electronica, for the most part, is dull, repetitive, uninspired, crap for people who have no interest in a communal, organic music experience. people who just want to get \'blissed out\' in their own little world with no regard to whats going on around them. i blame electronica on crappy drugs producing lazy, unoriginal sound makers. but one line of semi-obscure ambiguity repeated for six minutes to a beat i recognize from the original recording really in no way interests me. i\'m sorry if you\'re not patient or talented enough to learn how to play instruments, but taking other people\'s work and re-assembling it to an annoyingly redundant rhthym is still just scrapbooking, to me.
there are a very few exemptions from this rule (the orb come to mind as they at least create soundscapes). even the live bands playing electronica-ish stuff are missing the point. playing the same riff over and over and over is in no way niteresting. unless you\'re on a lot drugs. and not good ones. and don\'t even get me started on post-rock... :hscratch:
:D great points, jay! You\'ll make a great emperor over the free world someday :thumbsup:
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How about to a room!
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Wanna take this to phook? ;)
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no! **** you! you\'re wrong! post-rock should be re-named as lazy-rock!
;)
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You and me= apples and oranges :)
But, hey, that\'s the beauty of the human experience. No?
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no untz!! :dj: :thumbsdow
electronica, for the most part, is dull, repetitive, uninspired, crap for people who have no interest in a communal, organic music experience. people who just want to get \'blissed out\' in their own little world with no regard to whats going on around them. i blame electronica on crappy drugs producing lazy, unoriginal sound makers. but one line of semi-obscure ambiguity repeated for six minutes to a beat i recognize from the original recording really in no way interests me. i\'m sorry if you\'re not patient or talented enough to learn how to play instruments, but taking other people\'s work and re-assembling it to an annoyingly redundant rhthym is still just scrapbooking, to me.
there are a very few exemptions from this rule (the orb come to mind as they at least create soundscapes). even the live bands playing electronica-ish stuff are missing the point. playing the same riff over and over and over is in no way niteresting. unless you\'re on a lot drugs. and not good ones. and don\'t even get me started on post-rock... :hscratch:
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No untz... But I can turn you on to some tasteful, non-Deemster related Untz material if interested. :)
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whew! i was worried it was gonna be one of those \'things that go untz in the night\' kind deals... this sounds much better.
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Well, Eureka will bliss you out. Insignifigance will leave you with a big ol\' happy grin tattooed on your face. O\'Rourke\'s pop work is nothing short of perfect (IMO).
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bliss out, huh??? now i\'m worried. i\'m not gonna end up with an askew baseball hat and an sts9 tat, am i???
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clear space>dld>take a deep breath> bliss out.....
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i started to, but got distracted by shiny things... i\'ll d/l some tonight. fwiw, i usually do check out every music suggestion i see posted anywhere by anyone, moreso if i think they have decent taste! so, i definitely was gonna check this out, just had to clear up some space.
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THANK YOU JASON. :) Now download Jim O\'Rourke\'s "Insignifigance" and "Eureka". Trust me, you\'ll be thanking me next time around!!
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ok, so i checked out Loose Furs "Born Again in the USA". its pretty good and i can see why you really like them, joe. sorta altcountryprog-ish. but i still think sky blue sky is far better!
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WILCO is sublime, especially for those who are a sucker for LYRICS. Lyrically, Tweedy blows everyone away.
But, like all great (GREAT) art, you need to spend some time with it.
For the doubters, go rent \'I am Trying to Break Your Heart" (DVD documentaory) and then buy the double live album, Kicking Television. And their new guitarist - Nels Cline - is a fusion virtuoso.
nice..
nels cline is a monster on the guitar.
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WILCO is sublime, especially for those who are a sucker for LYRICS. Lyrically, Tweedy blows everyone away.
But, like all great (GREAT) art, you need to spend some time with it.
For the doubters, go rent \'I am Trying to Break Your Heart" (DVD documentaory) and then buy the double live album, Kicking Television. And their new guitarist - Nels Cline - is a fusion virtuoso.
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Once again, if anyone wants to take their Wilco quality of listening up several notches, then please check out Loose Fur and Jim O\'Rourke (Insignifigance, Eureka, and Halfway to a Threeway are the albums to get).
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tim playing \'shake it off\' tonight at bar. great tune and spent a lot of last night drinkin wine, listening through sky blue sky and when he picked up the guitar and figured out the parts to that one, it guaranteed me goin to bar tonight just to hear it
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this is EASILY my favorite album of the year so far!
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nice work, wah. gonna check it out tonight after work.
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lol.
if your not really familiar with wilco i dont know if i recommend this show as a good starting point.
your not really gonna get it.
sure,youll appreciate the songs,but i think you might wanna get a ghost is born/summerteeth/skyblue sky/yankee hotel foxtrot..
on a sidenote,hey joe,u wanna upload loose fur for me?
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not really familiar with wilco but ill def check these out as im always interested in some new music, thanks!
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as my friend aruny was saying,the jeff tweedy acoustic solo **** is something truely special.
theres moments in this show that raise ser goosebumps.
also,his stage banter is SECOND TO NONE.dude can be really funny.i strongly recommend giving this show a listen.i was lucky to run into this one....
Hey-o. Really nice, super intimate Jeff Tweedy solo show here. Intimate as in he played in someone’s living room as a part of the Chicago Letters to Santa benefit series.
From what I understand if you donate enough money to the charity, Tweedy will come play at your house. Maybe some Chicago folk on here can shed more light. Anyway, it’s a great “show”. Enjoy.
Jeff Tweedy
Letters to Santa Benefit
Living Room Concert (#3)
The Coleman Home
Winnetka, IL
Saturday March 3, 2007
http://www.sendspace.com/file/r3uxd2
[First Set]
01 [pre-show banter]
02 [requested by: Erin]
03 Spiders
04 [requested by: Jen]
05 Someday Soon
06 [requested by: Wendy]
07 Radio King
08 [requested by: Jackson]
09 Reservations
10 [requested by: Leo]
11 Pot Kettle Black
12 [requested by: Christine]
13 Muzzle of Bees
14 [requested by: Jenny]
15 Not for the Season
16 [requested by: Johnny]
17 No More Poetry
18 [requested by: Chris T.]
19 Dreamer in my Dreams
20 [requested by: Tom]
21 Jesus Etc. (w/ Erin Coleman on violin)
22 [requested by: Melissa]
23 Heavy Metal Drummer
24 [requested by: Vanessa]
25 One by One
26 [requested by: Mike]
27 Impossible Germany
28 [requested by: Donna]
29 Who Were You Thinking of?
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2nu4gh
[First Set continued]
01 [requested by: Kevin]
02 Gun
03 [requested by: Amy]
04 New Madrid
05 [requested by: Steve]
06 ELT
07 [requested by: Susan]
08 What Light
09 [Set Break/Second Set]
10 [requested by: Kristen]
11 Theologians
12 [requested by: Kristen]
13 I\'m a Wheel
14 [Jeff\'s theories about guitar shapes]
15 [requested by: Mr. Scheyer]
16 Passenger Side
17 [requested by: David]
18 Family Gardner
19 [requested by: Anna]
20 Magazine Called Sunset
21 [requested by: Ken]
22 Is That the Thanks I Get
23 [requested by: Doug / Jeff talks about Letters to Santa]
24 Forget the Flowers
25 [requested by: Morgan]
26 Always in Love
27 [requested by: Chandler]
28 Love and Mercy
29 [requested by: Chris C.]
30 Can\'t Keep From Talking
31 [requested by: Adam]
32 I Got You (w/ Jen Reinking and Chris Cross on background vocals)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mv4miv
[Second Set continued]
01 [requested by: Chris N.]
02 I am Trying to Break Your Heart
03 Misunderstood
04 [requested by: Warner]
05 Pecan Pie
06 [requested by: Chris H.]
07 Should Have Been in Love
08 [requested by: Kyle]
09 Acuff Rose (w/o P.A.)
10 [requested by: Edie]
11 Hate it Here (fragment)
12 [Wilco Ruins Records]
13 Can\'t Stand It
14 Candyfloss
15 [requested by: Gail]
16 Pieholden Suite
17 [requested by: Rich]
18 How to Fight Loneliness
19 [Thanks to Susan Miller Tweedy]
20 I\'m the Man Who Loves You
21 California Stars (w/o P.A. on vocals)
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who is this Trey Chica and why have I never seen a post from him?
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Loose Fur. Loose Fur. Loose Fur.. Jesus christ, does everyone have me on ignore or something?
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Better than any Wilco album...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00007L9NJ?ie=UTF8&tag=pbfanscom-20&creativeASIN=B00007L9NJ
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E6EO1Q?ie=UTF8&tag=pbfanscom-20&creativeASIN=B000E6EO1Q
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Wilco will be the music that will be playing if I ever decided that I needed an extra push to end it all.
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along wth the albums,i\'d recommend tweedys solo acoustic dvd \'Sunken Treasures\' because if youre in that mood and put it on you hear a little about who he is and his songs..his goofiness..and good footage. its heartfelt
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All of the other three I know have a country twinge, though I\'d classify Summerteeth as a bit more poppy, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot as a bit more experimental, and A Ghost is Born as a bit more jammy.
All things being equal, country or no country, if you have an interest in getting into Wilco, and haven\'t heard Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, hear it.
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I downloaded about half this album (rest was unavailable)
I really liked Impossible Germany.
Some of the rest of it was a little too country for me. Which is weird because I love albums like Exile Main Street and Grateful Dead (1971)
Anyone recommend Wilco\'s least counrty sounding album?
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Summerteeth is truly a wonderful album in every way.
I have to agree. Not that I have much to go on yet but from the albums I listened to Summerteeth does it for me. Wilco does it for me. Maybe is the mood of the albums or the tone of the songs, they way they are written or played, I don\'t know but I definitely connect with what they are doing.
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Summerteeth is truly a wonderful album in every way.
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Listened to Sky Blue Sky a few times and gets better with each listen. Really dig Summerteeth, too.
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Depressing, yet comforting. And for the most part, exceptional.
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I hate Dylan!
:wah: Those are ser fighting words, imnsho.
Grudge match Sat night! :strong:
PLEASE...do NOT get her started!! ;)
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I hate Dylan!
:wah: Those are ser fighting words, imnsho.
Grudge match Sat night! :strong:
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try a ghost is born..
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A good song or two. Too many boring parts. I still don\'t know why this band carries so much hype. I had a friend try to get me into Yankee Hotel Foxtrot when it came out.
I agree. I was hesitant at first but I was forced to listen and watch Wilco for a day and it kind of grew on me. There are some songs that could wash away with the ocean tide and some tunes that are really good and some music that is really layered and cool.
I haven\'t listened to too much Wilco to make a really solid judgment of their material.
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A good song or two. Too many boring parts. I still don\'t know why this band carries so much hype. I had a friend try to get me into Yankee Hotel Foxtrot when it came out.
the album is boring/dad music,.
Hear, hear.
I\'ll give it another chance, but I don\'t think I could ever fall in love with this band.
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I hate Dylan!
:wah: Those are ser fighting words, imnsho.
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Impossible germany= outtake from White Pepper semi.confirmed.
yer nutz
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mark,did u listen to it a few times?
I forced myself to listen to the whole thing, I don\'t think I could stomach another round.
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Impossible germany= outtake from White Pepper semi.confirmed.
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Dylan
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or Dylan
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Just kidding, I really like most of the songs on the album actually. Impossible Germany is a great song.
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mark,did u listen to it a few times?
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I hate Tweedy and Dylan!
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Walkens a classic
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i listened to the whole album and when it was done i hi tplay again.
side with the seeds=EPIC
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happenstance has changed my plans
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remind me NOTHING of ween.
that solo is so unique
its like he waits till the last possible millisecond before hitting the note.i love that tune.
however,i think my favorite part of the album is during you are my face."i have no idea how this happens.all of my maps have been overthrown"
that is soo killer.i love the hammond organ too in that tune
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I think the impossible germany solo has a steely dan feel
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I hate Dylan too. You like that solo in Impossible Germany because it reminds you of Ween. Now go get those Loose Fur and O\'Rourke albums, and get back to me stat.
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the solo in impossible germany=somethin else
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i could never get into him.
killer songwriter,dont get me wrong.HORRIFIC voice though.
no argument here.
chaggs,did u grab the sky blue sky dvd audio?pick it up.
will do
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i could never get into him.
killer songwriter,dont get me wrong.HORRIFIC voice though
chaggs,did u grab the sky blue sky dvd audio?pick it up.
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tweedy=pure gold.
the bob dylan of our time..
absolutely
joe,this IS NOT debatable..
on a sidenote,i hate bob dylan
bah!
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joe,this IS NOT debatable..
on a sidenote,i hate bob dylan
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Isn\'t Dylan the Dyaln of our time?
Wah, check out those Loose Fur and O\'Rourke albums NOW DAMMIT!!
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tweedy=pure gold.
the bob dylan of our time..
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Definitely a little whiney at times.
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For a fortysomething ex-junkie Tweedy sounds like a whiney 24 year old. That\'s my big hang up at times.
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Wah swears by it and forced me to remain seated while I got my Wilco education. Worth checking out, some tunes are really good and very layered. Tweedy can write music but its definitely not for everyone.
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Whoever wants my copy let me know.
That good, eh?
still haven\'t got it yet but hoping to
I\'ve read reviews other places and people seem to be liking the cd (at least 4-5 tracks on it)
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Whoever wants my copy let me know.
That good, eh?
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Whoever wants my copy let me know.
boooooo!
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Whoever wants my copy let me know.
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Wilco is worth the listen.
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Freddie, I\'m gonna have to check out Wilco. I have seen Nels Cline at least 3 times, each time fronting his own project. The guy is absolutely amazing, but I\'m thinking that in Wilco his playing must be very much subdued. But I can definitely seeing him adding to whatever band he was playing with. Thanks for the link.
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Check out Loose Fur (Tweedy, Kotche and O\'Rourke) and then the 2.5 best albums of the 21st century:
"Insignifigance" by Jim O\'Rourke
"Eureka" by Jim O\'Rourke
"Halfway to a Threeway" by Jim O\'Rourke
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go fluff Jeff Tweedy on the side of the stage, brah.
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heres a great review of the album if anyones interested..
i wholeheartedly agree with prettymuch everything this cat says..
also,i acquired the live studio tracks from the dvd and 3 or 4 tunes that didnt make the album.lemme know if anyones down..
Wilco -- Sky Blue Sky
Picasso\'s "Guernica," a work of great socio-political import and intense emotional impact, shocking for its time (1937), was rendered using only dark greens, black, white, brown and grey. Likewise, Sky Blue Sky finds Jeff Tweedy and Wilco setting aside the dissonance and feedback they\'ve employed on their last few efforts, opting this time out for a stripped-down, easy-going approach. They succeed in crafting an album of sparse instrumentation, but unpredictable arrangements and stark beauty.
The album-opening "Either Way" features an angular and jazzy Nels Cline guitar solo that requires only a few measures to firmly establish Cline\'s installation as the best thing to happen to Wilco since the addition of their insanely gifted percussionist Glenn Kotche. By the album\'s third song, Cline is sneaking the brasher colors back into Wilco\'s palette. During "Impossible Germany" the band ventures into previously uncharted territory, unfurling dual-guitar parts strangely reminiscent of Steely Dan and Thin Lizzy.
Simple only on the surface, Tweedy\'s lyrics careen far into the abstract but still resonate with tearful truths: "I am looking forward towards the shadows chasing bones/Our faces stitched in sewing, our houses hemmed into homes/Trying to be thankful how stories fit into phones/How voices lift so easily, a gift given accidentally/But we\'re not sure we\'re not alone."
I won\'t compare this to their debut (1994\'s AltCountry cornerstone A.M. ), but Tweedy & Co. do come full circle here. With more than one tune on Sky Blue Sky that would be right at home on their first couple records, Wilco\'s uncanny impulsiveness ironically manifests itself in unexpectedly unadorned, homespun form. Still, this band continually finds new ways to spin seemingly simple chord progressions.
Turning the beat around here; all leaning earnestly on one note there; or layering a song\'s different segments over top of one another for the sheer silly thrill of sonic experimentation. Even in their New Mellow Mood, Wilco\'s is an exciting and illuminating sound to behold, the sound of a band clearly enjoying the meticulous deconstruction/reconstruction of new tunes as the songs are still taking shape.
Though I refuse to join the legion of Jeff Tweedy fans that fuss and fret with aching concern about his personal life as they perceive its reflection in his lyrics, I do feel "What Light" reveals a great deal about his current state of mind. He sings, "If the whole world\'s singing your songs, and all your paintings have been hung/Just remember: what was yours is everyone\'s from now on/And that\'s not wrong or right/You can struggle with it all you like/But you\'ll only get uptight," only to segue into a chorus that both questions and confirms all that has come before, repeating "There\'s a light. What light?" It is a brilliant portrait of the duality of man, the conflict between confidence and self-doubt, once again illustrating Jeff Tweedy\'s humble grasp of the human condition, delivered with a modest, unpretentious, yet poignant punch.
Listening to Wilco, the blood runs hotter; the heart swells with emotions both sweet and bitter. If their last couple records didn\'t hit you on a gut level from the first listen like some of their earlier stuff, remember -- still waters run deep. (Ric Hickey) Grade: A
here it is...
http://www.sendspace.com/file/45apj4
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Check out Loose Fur (Tweedy, Kotche and O\'Rourke) and then the 2.5 best albums of the 21st century:
"Insignifigance" by Jim O\'Rourke
"Eureka" by Jim O\'Rourke
"Halfway to a Threeway" by Jim O\'Rourke
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http://www.sendspace.com/file/mmm3zb
my good deed of the day...
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freddy....hook me up tonight if possible. just started getting into them with yankee hotel.
if not, i\'ll end up getting it someday...thanks
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pitchy,im tellin ya,ive never been hooked on an album like this one.
i listen to it usually around 3 times a day,every day.
tweedy=the man
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I\'m gonna have to grab & burn this for the ride up to hartford tonight. Thanks for the reminder Wah!
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Wilco rules the universe and I cannot wait to get this album, which I will very soon.
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the chances of me remembering=questionable.
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Burn away por favor, Thanks
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should i sendspace/mediafire it or shall i burn it for ya?
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Let\'s work something out :wah:
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i grabbed this album about 3 months ago and havent been able to put it down.
with its official release last tuesday,i recommend everyone to try this album out.
firstly,i was never a huge wilco fan to start with.one latenight i remember hearing spiders from a ghost is born.the sound was new/fresh.i was prettymuch hooked.started getting into yankee hotel foxtrot and summerteeth and was slowly/surely becoming a huge fan of wilco,and more notably jeff tweedy.theres no denying the talent this dude comes with.
so,sky blue sky...
from the opening of the first track,either way,this album pulls you in and dosent let go of ya.
actually,lemme take that back,the first few listens might lead you to believe the album is boring/dad music,but the more and more you listen,the better and better it gets.
nels cline joined the band for the album and the dude is a MONSTER of the guitar.
this is great music.this is what music is supposed to be like.
heres there myspace link.the tune \'what light\' is the single and i love it.
http://www.myspace.com/wilco
if anyones curious about the album,lemme know and well work something out.