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General Discussions => Spunk => Topic started by: FrankZappa on March 28, 2007, 09:15:38 am
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Fascism.
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again eggboy, what do you do with the yolks?
i save them up, and when i\'m bored, i sit in the window with a sling shot and nail the passers-by.
When I was college I used to eat a dozen egg whites every morning. I had an ongoing battle with the dining hall manager at my college. He had a fit that I used to throw out the yolks. According to him I was singlehandedly destroying the profitablity of the dining hall. He made a scene screaming at me a few times, and I usually just gave him a blank stare in response.
One day I had enough, and right in front of him, I stood in front of the trash can and screamed at anyone threw away chicken bones, an apple core, crumbs, etc. He finally left me alone.
awesome.
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How did this thread turn political when Jocelyn has not even read it yet? :hscratch:
It seemed to happen when Gun ownership was brought up. I ran with it.
:)
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How did this thread turn political when Jocelyn has not even read it yet? :hscratch:
I think it was partially my fault explaining how the bag issue is tied to a larger political movement.
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again eggboy, what do you do with the yolks?
i save them up, and when i\'m bored, i sit in the window with a sling shot and nail the passers-by.
When I was college I used to eat a dozen egg whites every morning. I had an ongoing battle with the dining hall manager at my college. He had a fit that I used to throw out the yolks. According to him I was singlehandedly destroying the profitablity of the dining hall. He made a scene screaming at me a few times, and I usually just gave him a blank stare in response.
One day I had enough, and right in front of him, I stood in front of the trash can and screamed at anyone threw away chicken bones, an apple core, crumbs, etc. He finally left me alone.
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How did this thread turn political when Jocelyn has not even read it yet? :hscratch:
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again eggboy, what do you do with the yolks?
i save them up, and when i\'m bored, i sit in the window with a sling shot and nail the passers-by.
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Holly that "right to bear arms" is now not what it was intended to be. Really.
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Are you in any way implying that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", as stated in the second amendment of the Bill of rights, somehow does not imply an individual right?
Not at all. I am just saying the right was meant for purposes entirely outdated. Please give me an example of how in this day and age our right to bare arms in order to protect ourselves from tyranny in government is in any way effective?
Not only is the government armed thousandfold what any group of armed citizens could come up with, the government can suspend ALL of our rights with Martial Law.
Then what?
Anyway this is not about the 2nd Amendment it is about how SF kicks ass in leading the charge to clean up the environment by regulating wasteful practices like the nonbiodegradable plastic grocery bags.
I didn\'t read the article, just the argumentation. Is this a ban just on grocery shopping bags? Or is it a ban on all plastic bags, like garbage bags and the like? I wanna see how reusing a canvas garbage bad works out for the \'smell\' of san fran.
My best friend is in the ink and polymer business. He prints on those plastic bags that you get everywhere.
where abouts? I need a new job, and that\'s exactly what I my abilities/skills would be good for.
Just nonbiodegradable plastic grocery bags
Umm there is this war in Iraq where a bunch of armed civilians have the greatest military on earth bogged down and losing a war. You might want to rethink your ideas about an armed populous.
Are u Ser? The reason they have the greatest military on earth bogged down is directly attributed to the mishandling of this war in EVERY aspect not that they are an armed populace.
Besides they are a people fighting against what they see as an invasion of their land.
We are talking about Americans.
Big difference.
So your saying that the reason our military is bogged down is because mis management from the white house ? Are you SER ? Sure they didn\'t put enough troops in there and that has a lot to do with it. But have a look at history. There are 300 Million americans. They cannot control our population now. Look at katrina, look at the war on drugs etc etc.
Now lets say that we have a popular uprising of civilians v. Gov. Not all the military is going to be gung ho about killing other americans, especially if they agree with the populous. then you take in to effect that the populous out numbers the standing army by millions. Then take in to effect the population helping to support and hide and etc.
Look at Vietnam. We put more boots on the ground there and lost. It is extremely difficult to fight an insurgency. That is why they always tell you that insurgency are not beat by military might alone. The end of conflict must be a political solution. The military power is greatly reduced when they cannot distinguish the enemy from normal folks. So OK if the US army took the gloves off and started killing everything that moves thats a different story but would not be how a Civil war would be fought in my opinion.
You are going to bring up Katrina when everyone knows a competent President would have done more than Bush. The War on Drugs? What War on Drugs?
Dude really? Americans cannot even get out to vote much less put together a cohesive insurgent militia.
Our Government has shown it has no problem killing it\'s own citizens so what makes you think the Military would all of a sudden balk at that?
As far as Vietnam that war was winnable but look who was in charge then also another crook probably too busy worrying about lining his pockets for the future than taking care of the war. Shitty war anyway we should not have been in just like Iraq.
Anyway you have a lot more faith in the everyday American than I could ever muster.
Good for you.
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again eggboy, what do you do with the yolks?
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oh you silly boys and your politics... i thought this thread was about eggs.. :confused:
anyways, work is slow today, so i took this:
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Holly that "right to bear arms" is now not what it was intended to be. Really.
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Are you in any way implying that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", as stated in the second amendment of the Bill of rights, somehow does not imply an individual right?
Not at all. I am just saying the right was meant for purposes entirely outdated. Please give me an example of how in this day and age our right to bare arms in order to protect ourselves from tyranny in government is in any way effective?
Not only is the government armed thousandfold what any group of armed citizens could come up with, the government can suspend ALL of our rights with Martial Law.
Then what?
Anyway this is not about the 2nd Amendment it is about how SF kicks ass in leading the charge to clean up the environment by regulating wasteful practices like the nonbiodegradable plastic grocery bags.
I didn\'t read the article, just the argumentation. Is this a ban just on grocery shopping bags? Or is it a ban on all plastic bags, like garbage bags and the like? I wanna see how reusing a canvas garbage bad works out for the \'smell\' of san fran.
My best friend is in the ink and polymer business. He prints on those plastic bags that you get everywhere.
where abouts? I need a new job, and that\'s exactly what I my abilities/skills would be good for.
Just nonbiodegradable plastic grocery bags
Umm there is this war in Iraq where a bunch of armed civilians have the greatest military on earth bogged down and losing a war. You might want to rethink your ideas about an armed populous.
Are u Ser? The reason they have the greatest military on earth bogged down is directly attributed to the mishandling of this war in EVERY aspect not that they are an armed populace.
Besides they are a people fighting against what they see as an invasion of their land.
We are talking about Americans.
Big difference.
So your saying that the reason our military is bogged down is because mis management from the white house ? Are you SER ? Sure they didn\'t put enough troops in there and that has a lot to do with it. But have a look at history. There are 300 Million americans. They cannot control our population now. Look at katrina, look at the war on drugs etc etc.
Now lets say that we have a popular uprising of civilians v. Gov. Not all the military is going to be gung ho about killing other americans, especially if they agree with the populous. then you take in to effect that the populous out numbers the standing army by millions. Then take in to effect the population helping to support and hide and etc.
Look at Vietnam. We put more boots on the ground there and lost. It is extremely difficult to fight an insurgency. That is why they always tell you that insurgency are not beat by military might alone. The end of conflict must be a political solution. The military power is greatly reduced when they cannot distinguish the enemy from normal folks. So OK if the US army took the gloves off and started killing everything that moves thats a different story but would not be how a Civil war would be fought in my opinion.
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I am just saying the right was meant for purposes entirely outdated. Please give me an example of how in this day and age our right to bare arms in order to protect ourselves from tyranny in government is in any way effective?
If you had a gun, you could shoot back at Chaney when he "accidentally" mistakes you for a duck.
Also, I like the idea of having a way to defend myself when and if I do need to rise up and overthrow the government. That\'s how this country was founded.
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Holly that "right to bear arms" is now not what it was intended to be. Really.
.
Are you in any way implying that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", as stated in the second amendment of the Bill of rights, somehow does not imply an individual right?
Not at all. I am just saying the right was meant for purposes entirely outdated. Please give me an example of how in this day and age our right to bare arms in order to protect ourselves from tyranny in government is in any way effective?
Not only is the government armed thousandfold what any group of armed citizens could come up with, the government can suspend ALL of our rights with Martial Law.
Then what?
Anyway this is not about the 2nd Amendment it is about how SF kicks ass in leading the charge to clean up the environment by regulating wasteful practices like the nonbiodegradable plastic grocery bags.
I didn\'t read the article, just the argumentation. Is this a ban just on grocery shopping bags? Or is it a ban on all plastic bags, like garbage bags and the like? I wanna see how reusing a canvas garbage bad works out for the \'smell\' of san fran.
My best friend is in the ink and polymer business. He prints on those plastic bags that you get everywhere.
where abouts? I need a new job, and that\'s exactly what I my abilities/skills would be good for.
Just nonbiodegradable plastic grocery bags
Umm there is this war in Iraq where a bunch of armed civilians have the greatest military on earth bogged down and losing a war. You might want to rethink your ideas about an armed populous.
Are u Ser? The reason they have the greatest military on earth bogged down is directly attributed to the mishandling of this war in EVERY aspect not that they are an armed populace.
Besides they are a people fighting against what they see as an invasion of their land.
We are talking about Americans.
Big difference.
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Holly that "right to bear arms" is now not what it was intended to be. Really.
.
Are you in any way implying that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", as stated in the second amendment of the Bill of rights, somehow does not imply an individual right?
Not at all. I am just saying the right was meant for purposes entirely outdated. Please give me an example of how in this day and age our right to bare arms in order to protect ourselves from tyranny in government is in any way effective?
Not only is the government armed thousandfold what any group of armed citizens could come up with, the government can suspend ALL of our rights with Martial Law.
Then what?
Anyway this is not about the 2nd Amendment it is about how SF kicks ass in leading the charge to clean up the environment by regulating wasteful practices like the nonbiodegradable plastic grocery bags.
I didn\'t read the article, just the argumentation. Is this a ban just on grocery shopping bags? Or is it a ban on all plastic bags, like garbage bags and the like? I wanna see how reusing a canvas garbage bad works out for the \'smell\' of san fran.
My best friend is in the ink and polymer business. He prints on those plastic bags that you get everywhere.
where abouts? I need a new job, and that\'s exactly what I my abilities/skills would be good for.
Just nonbiodegradable plastic grocery bags
Umm there is this war in Iraq where a bunch of armed civilians have the greatest military on earth bogged down and losing a war. You might want to rethink your ideas about an armed populous.
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I didn\'t read the article, just the argumentation. Is this a ban just on grocery shopping bags? Or is it a ban on all plastic bags, like garbage bags and the like? I wanna see how reusing a canvas garbage bad works out for the \'smell\' of san fran.
My best friend is in the ink and polymer business. He prints on those plastic bags that you get everywhere.
where abouts? I need a new job, and that\'s exactly what I my abilities/skills would be good for.
Mass & Canada (Montreal I think) The company is CAI
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Holly that "right to bear arms" is now not what it was intended to be. Really.
.
Are you in any way implying that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", as stated in the second amendment of the Bill of rights, somehow does not imply an individual right?
Not at all. I am just saying the right was meant for purposes entirely outdated. Please give me an example of how in this day and age our right to bare arms in order to protect ourselves from tyranny in government is in any way effective?
Not only is the government armed thousandfold what any group of armed citizens could come up with, the government can suspend ALL of our rights with Martial Law.
Then what?
Anyway this is not about the 2nd Amendment it is about how SF kicks ass in leading the charge to clean up the environment by regulating wasteful practices like the nonbiodegradable plastic grocery bags.
I didn\'t read the article, just the argumentation. Is this a ban just on grocery shopping bags? Or is it a ban on all plastic bags, like garbage bags and the like? I wanna see how reusing a canvas garbage bad works out for the \'smell\' of san fran.
My best friend is in the ink and polymer business. He prints on those plastic bags that you get everywhere.
where abouts? I need a new job, and that\'s exactly what I my abilities/skills would be good for.
Just nonbiodegradable plastic grocery bags
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Holly that "right to bear arms" is now not what it was intended to be. Really.
.
Are you in any way implying that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", as stated in the second amendment of the Bill of rights, somehow does not imply an individual right?
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I didn\'t read the article, just the argumentation. Is this a ban just on grocery shopping bags? Or is it a ban on all plastic bags, like garbage bags and the like? I wanna see how reusing a canvas garbage bad works out for the \'smell\' of san fran.
My best friend is in the ink and polymer business. He prints on those plastic bags that you get everywhere.
where abouts? I need a new job, and that\'s exactly what I my abilities/skills would be good for.
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i just want to know, if i go to cali and buy a bag of weed and carry it out in a banned plastic grocery bag in order to conceal it, am i more likely to be busted for the grocery bag or the bag bag?
You get them in special cellulose bags.
You tear the bag into strips and roll the weed up.
No waste at all.
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i just want to know, if i go to cali and buy a bag of weed and carry it out in a banned plastic grocery bag in order to conceal it, am i more likely to be busted for the grocery bag or the bag bag?
rotflrotfl
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i just want to know, if i go to cali and buy a bag of weed and carry it out in a banned plastic grocery bag in order to conceal it, am i more likely to be busted for the grocery bag or the bag bag?
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:rolleyes: oh god...
Unusual reaction for somebody who basically agrees with my statement...
I mean, you make a post like you\'re rolling your eyes at my statement, but then you go on to describe one element of exactly what I\'m talking about. :shrug:
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Well.
When I shop I do so in bulk because I shop for more than 1 person.
1 canvass bag will not hold all my groceries. So I will need several. So the up front cost is there for a lot of people.
My best friend is in the ink and polymer business. He prints on those plastic bags that you get everywhere. Grocery stores, rite aid anywhere you get a plastic bag they do that kind of printing. So it will cut in to his business. If a lot of states follow suit that means layoffs. What kind of environmental impact does making canvass bags have ?
Plastic bags are manufactured here. Canvass bags that have to be sewn will not be. How long does it take canvass to decompose ?
A right to bare arms is a right. I don\'t care what any of you socialist / communists think but it is a right. The right to hold arms to protect against tyranny from with in is not a right I would ever want to see taken away PERIOD. I don\'t currently own a gun but if feel confident in the fact that I could go out and purchase one if I wanted.
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:sigh: While I think this is great for the environment, I prefer getting paper inside plastic bags when I go food shopping. I always reuse the plastic bags until they rip. According to this law, now I\'ll either have to use only paper or buy tons of canvas bags? Seems a little unfair.
ahh wahhhhhhhh
i do paper in plastic as well.
it\'s all part of my grand scheme to destroy the universe.
Of course
i completely agree. this is such a larger issue that needs to be addressed.
:rolleyes: oh god...
it\'s important to protect the right to carry arms because it\'s a right, it has nothing to do with this "neo-fascist police state" or whatever you want to call it. i don\'t have a gun, but i\'ll take that right simply because it is a right that i should have. it\'s a much larger issue if the government wants to begin regulating that right more so than the issue of guns in general. (if) the second the government starts making moves on taking gun rights away (which it won\'t, because that would never go over) i will personally go out and buy a large quantity of weapons.
also, as much as i reuse plastic shopping bags until they are basically full of holes/rips, i would like to have the choice of using them rather than just have a ban on them all together.
Holly that "right to bear arms" is now not what it was intended to be. Really.
Choices are nice yes and one part of this measure that seems to be missed by the whiners is giving grocers the choice to offer biodegradable plastic bags also. They have not banned plastic completely.
Sheesh people read.
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all this talk reminds me of that south park episode "smug alert"
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Why don\'t the ever do anything important. Perhaps they could have congress revisit the miles per gallon rules on cars and trucks, things that would really impact everyone.
i completely agree. this is such a larger issue that needs to be addressed.
And BTW, the reason it\'s important to protect the right to carry arms isn\'t because of the occasional burgular...
it\'s to protect yourself against the rise of the neo-fascist police state!
:rolleyes: oh god...
it\'s important to protect the right to carry arms because it\'s a right, it has nothing to do with this "neo-fascist police state" or whatever you want to call it. i don\'t have a gun, but i\'ll take that right simply because it is a right that i should have. it\'s a much larger issue if the government wants to begin regulating that right more so than the issue of guns in general. (if) the second the government starts making moves on taking gun rights away (which it won\'t, because that would never go over) i will personally go out and buy a large quantity of weapons.
also, as much as i reuse plastic shopping bags until they are basically full of holes/rips, i would like to have the choice of using them rather than just have a ban on them all together.
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if the ban happens countrywide tomorrow, i\'m sure that my roommate and i could provide .info with all the plastic bags they need for the next 10 years or so. we have that many. they also work well reused as packing material
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Where will it end? Wait till some radical biking group organizes and decides that the tens of thousands of auto deaths each year should mandate the end of the automobile.
:chin: :hehehe:
And BTW, the reason it\'s important to protect the right to carry arms isn\'t because of the occasional burgular...
it\'s to protect yourself against the rise of the neo-fascist police state!
You couldn\'t be more wrong, Lisa. If I didn\'t have this gun, the king of England could just walk in here anytime he wants and start shoving you around. Do you want that? Huh? Do you?
I agree with you here BD, I just prefer less government intervention (or to be dramatic strangulation) in achieving stated goal.
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Canvas bags would mean that I\'d have to actually plan my grocery trips instead of going to the store on a whim, or keep them all packed in my already over-crowded car.
That\'s the kind of minor "sacrifice" I\'d argue we all need to start getting used to making on a regular basis.
As well as extending this mentality far beyond trips to the grocery store.
Besides you can be stylin\' with this headie hemp shopping bag:
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apparently whereever this dude shops its "No Shoes, No Shirt, No Problem!"
:D
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From mandating that employers pay sick leave to hourly employees (more likely to be abused, just ask Freespirit)
hey.........
well,:lol:, i guess you do actually have a valid point! ;)
Agreed, this is a small step. But there are many small steps to be made alongside the giant leaps that must also take place if we are going to salvage this planet.
I really like the benefits of plastic bags vs. paper or canvas. Sure, I care about the environment, but paper bags are easily ripped and soggy in the rain. Also, as mentioned before, paper bags come from trees -- so I think this defeats the purpose of saving the environment. Canvas bags would mean that I\'d have to actually plan my grocery trips instead of going to the store on a whim, or keep them all packed in my already over-crowded car.
One user-friendly program I like is Stop & Shop\'s "Peapod Delivery" service... the groceries are ordered online, & brought into your home in plastic bins. I\'ve used it a few times and really like the fact that it saves you from loading/unloading bags of groceries and also saves time from the frenzied shoppers, clerks, & baggers! :awwyeah:
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Agreed, this is a small step. But there are many small steps to be made alongside the giant leaps that must also take place if we are going to salvage this planet.!
I agree with you here BD, I just prefer less government intervention (or to be dramatic strangulation) in achieving stated goal. People really do need to think about the effects of their personal consumption (overconsumption in many cases). Even the millions of people who waste small quantities of food can have have an impact on commodity prices and every good one buys contributes to emissions, waste and congestion along the supply chain.
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What does it mean to the economy.
Environment > Economy
Besides, the economy\'s doing "great" while the gap between the rich and the poor exponentiates. Let\'s replace the Dow, S&P500, and GDP with a realisitic indicator of quality of life, and get on with it.
Not to mention if they have to use a more expensive bag it means higher costs at check out.
Canvas bag = one time $5 investment.
Stupid if you ask me. Just means more low income people out of work.
I doubt many people in this country are hand stiching these plastic bags. Most likely a machine in China.
Why don\'t the ever do anything important. Perhaps they could have congress revisit the miles per gallon rules on cars and trucks, things that would really impact everyone.
Agreed, this is a small step. But there are many small steps to be made alongside the giant leaps that must also take place if we are going to salvage this planet.
It\'s about time our culture embrace a little sacrifice. And I\'m not talking about sacrificing our rights or Constitution....
While I have made the choice to bring my own canvas Trader Joe\'s bags to the supermarket (they are much more durable than the plastic bags), this is another example of SF over regulating everything. From mandating that employers pay sick leave to hourly employees (more likely to be abused, just ask Freespirit), providing illegals with health insurance, trying to ban guns from all citizens (thus leaving them defenseless to criminals and in opposition of the Bill of Rights) and paying for sex change operations for city employees etc; SF is clearly advancing a socialistic, less free society.
Okay some of those things, (like paying for employee sex changes :lol: ) are a little over the top.
But I do agree with some of the policies you cite as socialistic and unfree. Anyway, it\'s San Francisco, so, like, what do you expect? You call it socialistic but I see this as a free city choosing their own path. There is a reason all these measures are being taken in San Francisco and not nescessarily other places: the citizens of San Francisco largely support these measures.
There are plenty of places in America for those with opposing ideologies.
And BTW, the reason it\'s important to protect the right to carry arms isn\'t because of the occasional burgular...
it\'s to protect yourself against the rise of the neo-fascist police state!
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While I have made the choice to bring my own canvas Trader Joe\'s bags to the supermarket (they are much more durable than the plastic bags), this is another example of SF over regulating everything. From mandating that employers pay sick leave to hourly employees (more likely to be abused, just ask Freespirit), providing illegals with health insurance, trying to ban guns from all citizens (thus leaving them defenseless to criminals and in opposition of the Bill of Rights) and paying for sex change operations for city employees etc; SF is clearly advancing a socialistic, less free society.
Why should the rest of the country care? Because California\'s social engineering becomes a blueprint for other cities and states to try. There is even a law pending in a nearby city that bans smoking everywhere except one\'s single-family, detached home (smoking in condos, cars, open spaces etc. would be illegal).
Where will it end? Wait till some radical biking group organizes and decides that the tens of thousands of auto deaths each year should mandate the end of the automobile.
Will the end of the plastic bag mark a brighter day in SF? Maybe ever-so-marginally (especially since most chain supermarkets already provide bins for plastic bag recycling), but the more important lesson to me is that no industry, no activity, no freedom is safe from radical social engineering.
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i,ve thought recently about riding a bike to work my only problem is i don\'t have a bike.... probably make sence to buy one at this point plus i could use the exercise:bantom:
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Well speaking of gas, all I know is that my shift is going to change at work and I will be riding my bike most days this spring/summer/fall, so when you are all complaining about $3.70 for gas I\'ll be filling up my car once every couple of weeks. :banjump:
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i applaud any attempt to clean up the environment and every change from the norm is going to have consequences. Sure there are bigger fish to fry but there has to be a slow start otherwise everyone is going to go into shock if they can no long get what they want.
i was watching something on the new Ethanol vehicle craze and listening to Bush studdered as he tried to commend auto makers for trying to save gas saying it was more of a national security thing then a environmental thing..... he\'s more worried about his oil stock going down, freak\'n douchbag. but they were saying it was a good step but the energy that goes into making Ethanol is just as bad and that the demand would never be met if there was a huge request for that type of fuel.
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While I think the idea is decent.
What does it mean to the economy. They never bother to look at the impact this will have on the folks who make, print and distribute the bags themselves.
Not to mention if they have to use a more expensive bag it means higher costs at check out.
Stupid if you ask me. Just means more low income people out of work. Higher costs for food, and a minimal gain for the environment.
Why don\'t the ever do anything important. Perhaps they could have congress revisit the miles per gallon rules on cars and trucks, things that would really impact everyone.
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what happens to all the yolks?
your dog must have the shinniest coat in the world.
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You should start raising chickens
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that\'s kind of gross Dave... how can one small guy as yourself consume that many eggs on top of whatever else you eat
8 per day; hard-boiled; just the whites; one sitting.
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that\'s kind of gross Dave... how can one small guy as yourself consume that many eggs on top of whatever else you eat
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2 weeks, just me eating them, for the record...
1 reason why you smell so foul!!! ;)
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heh.. i actually don\'t need a bag for my eggs... i get these at sam\'s club:
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2 weeks, just me eating them, for the record...
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but that being said, i\'m happy they are doing this. i am a tree hugger at heart and do environmental management at work so good for the west coast. i hope it makes it\'s way out east as well.
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Don\'t get me wrong, I on occasion have to get paper bags when I forget my canvas, but I try to use them every time. I try to never use plastic if possible though. Many times I\'ll simply carry something rather than getting a bag, especially if it\'s just 1 item or small like when I got a sub the other day for dinner. I mean, it was already wrapped in paper and taped close. I was going to go home and eat it. Do I really need a bag for this? If you are reusing the bags for dog poo or news paper recycling or the classic book cover for school, good. If you are just throwing them out, bad.
Unless you\'re dave peck. He is throwing them out but he has a clearly defined plan and reason behind it. ANyway, have you ever tried to carry 6 dozen eggs home from the store without a bag? not an easy task. :P
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my girlfriend gets both as well, one to store paper recyclables in before they get put out and the plastic to pick up dog poop from the backyard... i can\'t believe two dogs could poop that much. but that being said, i\'m happy they are doing this. i am a tree hugger at heart and do environmental management at work so good for the west coast. i kind of have a nickname for plastic bags in RI.... Rhode Island Tumble Weed because i always see plastic bags floating across the street and stuck up in trees. i hope it makes it\'s way out east as well.
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i do paper in plastic as well.
it\'s all part of my grand scheme to destroy the universe.
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:sigh: While I think this is great for the environment, I prefer getting paper inside plastic bags when I go food shopping. I always reuse the plastic bags until they rip. According to this law, now I\'ll either have to use only paper or buy tons of canvas bags? Seems a little unfair.
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I\'ve been using canvas at the grocery store for years. Now it\'s law on the west coast. :thumbsup:
San Francisco approves plastic-bag ban
Mayor expected to sign measure; city would be first in U.S. to adopt ban
SAN FRANCISCO - City leaders approved a ban on plastic grocery bags after weeks of lobbying on both sides from environmentalists and a supermarket trade group.
If Mayor Gavin Newsom signs the ban as expected, San Francisco would be the first U.S. city to adopt such a rule.
The law, passed by a 10-1 vote, requires large markets and drug stores to give customers only a choice among bags made of paper that can be recycled, plastic that breaks down easily enough to be made into compost, or reusable cloth.
San Francisco supervisors and supporters said that by banning the petroleum-based sacks, blamed for littering streets and choking marine life, the measure would go a long way toward helping the city earn its green stripes.
“Hopefully, other cities and states will follow suit,” said Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi, who crafted the ban after trying to get a 15-cent per bag tax passed in 2005.
The 50 grocery stores that would be most affected by the law argued that the ban was not reasonable because plastic bags made of corn byproducts are a relatively new, expensive and untested product. Some said they might offer only paper bags at checkout.
“I think what grocers will do now that this has passed is, they will review all their options and decide what they think works best for them economically,” said David Heylen, a spokesman for the California Grocers Association.
Newsom supported the measure. The switch is scheduled to take effect in six months for grocery stores and in one year for pharmacies.
Craig Noble, a spokesman for the Natural Resources Defense Council, said it would be disappointing if grocers rejected the biodegradable plastic bag option, since more trees would have to be cut down if paper bag use increases.
The new breed of bags “offers consumers a way out of a false choice, a way out of the paper or plastic dilemma,” Noble said.
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