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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: davepeck on March 20, 2007, 03:14:12 pm


Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: bdfreetuna on March 24, 2007, 10:39:41 am
two words:

crack

lazers

..
For real though whatever they had goin on 1-15-2005 show in Palmer MA, there was some crazy psychedelic projections going on. That was good stuff.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: peaches626 on March 24, 2007, 10:08:51 am
^^^^^
hey guy, i wasnt necessarily making specific suggestions for the breakfast.... just making the point that its not unheard of to add an extra spectacle to your show than just the music
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Post by: FrankZappa on March 24, 2007, 09:49:04 am
Quote from: peaches626;139656
or inviting girls to come dance on stage(robert randolph)....

im just sayin, whatever makes the show a fun time... im all for it

:no:

this was done at the 1000th show. bad idea.
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Post by: antbach on March 23, 2007, 05:00:20 pm
Quote from: Stephengencs;139808
I like Matt Damon\'s line in Rounders, "in the poker game of life, women are the rake"

hate to have to correct you sir, but i know the movie like the back of my hand, and it was indeed Worm (Norton) who said it, and added a nice "they are the **** rake" to top it off

carry on.
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Post by: Stephengencs on March 23, 2007, 12:16:30 pm
I like Matt Damon\'s line in Rounders, "in the poker game of life, women are the rake" or Norm Peterson from Cheers, "Women, cant live with em, pass the beer nuts"
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Post by: derickw on March 23, 2007, 12:13:35 pm
Quote from: Stephengencs;139797
I wouldn\'t say he put it best, but I would have to say he put it pretty accurately....

touche.... i guess it could have been put in a more politically correct but i think the bluntness is well deserved in some cases
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Post by: Stephengencs on March 23, 2007, 11:56:28 am
Quote from: derickw;139794
and Dr. Dre put it best "**** Ain\'t **** but hoes and tricks....."

I wouldn\'t say he put it best, but I would have to say he put it pretty accurately....
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: derickw on March 23, 2007, 11:51:41 am
Quote from: jking;139784
eeeewww... sorry about all that, man! didn\'t mean to step on any toes or agitate any scars...

nope... i\'m more pissed i missed this show and the last Block Island show than anything else. Life rolls on.... and Dr. Dre put it best "**** Ain\'t **** but hoes and tricks....."
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Post by: jking on March 23, 2007, 11:28:06 am
eeeewww... sorry about all that, man! didn\'t mean to step on any toes or agitate any scars...
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Post by: derickw on March 23, 2007, 10:50:23 am
Quote from: jking;139764
wait, you missed night two?!?!?!  i mean, we missed night one because we were six states away and it was a weeknight, but you saw the 19th and figured, \'nah, that was enough...\'!!   8^0

no, i was hoping a show of goodwill towards my then wife would have helped out the situation but instead i sat home alone and wished i was somewhere else with the best group of people life can offer

hence, lesson learned.... form now until i have kids Derick is top priority
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Post by: peaches626 on March 23, 2007, 09:59:26 am
i missed both nights, i believe puppethouse precedes my first breakfast show by about two weeks:newbie:
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Post by: jking on March 23, 2007, 09:10:46 am
wait, you missed night two?!?!?!  i mean, we missed night one because we were six states away and it was a weeknight, but you saw the 19th and figured, \'nah, that was enough...\'!!   8^0
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Post by: derickw on March 23, 2007, 08:58:53 am
Quote from: Spacey;139687
How would you know, you were only there for 1.

tapes.... ****...... i\'m real pissed i missed that second night for nothing... lesson learned
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Post by: Spacey on March 22, 2007, 04:47:42 pm
Quote from: derickw;139683
those were a SICK couple of nights..........

How would you know, you were only there for 1.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: derickw on March 22, 2007, 04:19:09 pm
Quote from: bezerker;139682
one theme kinda idea that has already worked: play a two night run with 3 sets a night, the middle set a surprise cover of an entire album.

those were a SICK couple of nights..........
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: bezerker on March 22, 2007, 03:55:20 pm
one theme kinda idea that has already worked: play a two night run with 3 sets a night, the middle set a surprise cover of an entire album.
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Post by: davepeck on March 22, 2007, 03:43:25 pm
Quote from: leith;139674
Bring back the Puppethouse Flashers.

best idea yet!
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Post by: leith on March 22, 2007, 03:36:14 pm
Bring back the Puppethouse Flashers.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: jocelyn on March 22, 2007, 03:05:54 pm
What about eating kittens?
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Post by: peaches626 on March 22, 2007, 01:27:42 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb;139562
maybe they should play standing on their heads, and hand out free purple sharpies and let everyone draw on their gear while strippers light themselves on fire.

hey, if thats what your client wants, right?

but seriously folks.... i agree that sometimes a little somethin extra will help make the concert event more memorable and bring people back to see something they dont see too often.... for some people thats blowing bubbles out into the crowd (flaming lips), or having your bass player get stupid drunk and letting the crowd spit on him (the bloodhound gang), or having a chess match against the audience(phish), or inviting girls to come dance on stage(robert randolph)....

im just sayin, whatever makes the show a fun time... im all for it
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: Spunk on March 22, 2007, 12:36:50 pm
woah chill out guys, I think we\'re a little off topic
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Post by: Jim Cobb on March 22, 2007, 12:02:28 pm
Quote from: Igziabeher;139563
or get Urban Fetch to open for them making the Breakfast look even better in comparison.

go **** yourself, ****.
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Post by: Igziabeher on March 21, 2007, 09:14:57 pm
I was just throwing that out there as a rough example, I wouldn\'t expect him to quit his job and go on tour just to sing 1 song.
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Post by: jocelyn on March 21, 2007, 09:08:42 pm
Quote from: antbach;139572
problem lies in that davepeck a) probably can\'t tour and b) would have a hard time boiling/eating seventeen dozen hard boiled eggs per day if touring.

:lol:
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Post by: antbach on March 21, 2007, 08:19:06 pm
anyone else find any of this ironic and/or deja-vu like? i\'m referring to the scene aspect that was brought up with the midset stuff and the like; and also the \'play two shows a week in ct\' thing. cos, i mean, i swear i saw this before, in reality.

igz, i like your idea alot, that\'d be an interesting event to attend. problem lies in that davepeck a) probably can\'t tour and b) would have a hard time boiling/eating seventeen dozen hard boiled eggs per day if touring.
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Post by: leith on March 21, 2007, 07:25:57 pm
Quote from: Todd;139561
Bring back the acoustic mid-setter!

That was such a train wreck then in terms of diminishing the energy of a Breakfast show very quickly. Really don\'t see it working with the new harder rocking Breakfast.
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Post by: Todd on March 21, 2007, 06:18:55 pm
Quote from: Igziabeher;139563
or get Urban Fetch to open for them making the Breakfast look even better in comparison.

:doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:

rotflrotfl
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: wildcoyote on March 21, 2007, 06:14:37 pm
Early on in their careers the Grateful Dead often played on set acoustic, one set electric gigs.  A few acoustic sets could really broaden the audience.  Assuming, of course that is the objective.
Some of the electric "face owning" regulars love has been a little much for some newbs I\'ve tried to bring in.  I don\'t want to see them sell out or anything, but I\'d embrace any strategy to keep these guys playing and not going broke while doing so.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: Igziabeher on March 21, 2007, 06:12:10 pm
or get Urban Fetch to open for them making the Breakfast look even better in comparison.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: Jim Cobb on March 21, 2007, 06:10:14 pm
maybe they should play standing on their heads, and hand out free purple sharpies and let everyone draw on their gear while strippers light themselves on fire.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: Todd on March 21, 2007, 06:07:36 pm
Bring back the acoustic mid-setter!
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: Igziabeher on March 21, 2007, 05:13:04 pm
Quote from: FreeSpirit;139554
:lol: that\'d be fun!
 
Other ideas?  How about...

-  balloon juggling
- "hi, my name is" stickers
- "best dressed" walk-offs

kinda isn\'t a theme, but i always thought it\'d be cool to have Breakfast shows as a rotating lineup type thing.

for example:

Set 1: (the Breakfast)Mayfly Dissaray, jam> What the Funk, (Tim solo acoustic)Sunshine Superman> Good Things, (the Breakfast)Rufus, (Drums n Guitar)some Mahavishnu Orchestra **** or whatever it is they play>(Good Time Boys) Around the World> (the Breakfast) Spunk> Honey Butter

or something of that ilk.  just a different way to set them apart from most touring jambands.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: bdfreetuna on March 21, 2007, 05:12:25 pm
Quote from: FreeSpirit;139554
:lol: that\'d be fun!
 
Other ideas?  How about...

-  balloon juggling
- "hi, my name is" stickers
- "best dressed" walk-offs

Or they could just play the headiest fuckin music of all time.

Like we all know they have the *capability* to do, and have, at times, done so.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: zuke583 on March 21, 2007, 05:07:55 pm
Quote from: Spacey;139499
Perhaps the band isn\'t looking to tour right now. What the band needs to do is build a solid following in their home state and region before going out on tour and earn money.

exactly...tell me again why the breakfast doesn\'t play two shows/week in CT...there are a ton of people in this region who love this type of music...it should be impossible for somebody from CT to not like the breakfast
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Post by: FreeSpirit on March 21, 2007, 05:05:15 pm
Quote from: kindm\'s;139520
perhaps they should try to do something different than all the other bands.

girl on girl jello wrestling

:lol: that\'d be fun!
 
Other ideas?  How about...

-  balloon juggling
- "hi, my name is" stickers
- "best dressed" walk-offs
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: kindm's on March 21, 2007, 02:30:55 pm
perhaps they should try to do something different than all the other bands.

For example.

Theme nights / runs in the spirit of Fongoulish or diesel experiments.

Is it cheesy maybe but it is also something different. Something special to promote with. Not just hey Bfast is in town come out and see the band.

1 of the things that has been lacking and I am just as much to blame as anyone else I guess but their is no "scene" surrounding the bfast anymore.

If we as fans wanted to help. that would be the biggest thing IMHO. Not flyers or other stuff but a scene. Stage props, crazy artwork, poetry during set break, girl on girl jello wrestling anything to create a different feel or vibe. painters, spoken word, communists, whatever. Drink specials, safe rides to the show (yes i know many of you do this)

A community so to speak. We all tend to be fairly thick skinned sarcastic North Easterners, I am not telling everyone to be hippies or anything but we could all be much more welcoming of new faces and try to help the band like that. That means more than a flyer or handout. It makes your experience more personal. That is what made the difference to me. A simple hey thanks for coming out My name is Dave Peck this is Josh Kroop etc etc

My biggest hurdle is getting out to shows. I plan on working on that very soon but the other stuff is true.

A spectacle so to speak.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: Spacey on March 21, 2007, 02:19:37 pm
The management will deal with this. We will sit right here and discuss it because it is the truth.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: Jim Cobb on March 21, 2007, 02:17:29 pm
why dont we let management deal with this rather than trying to be armchair managers?
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Post by: Spacey on March 21, 2007, 02:11:51 pm
They had the ability a few years ago to tour and have it work out, they have been playing places where they just don\'t draw. What they are trying to do, is work the stronger smaller markets out where they can continue to grow with what they have.

I agree with you Igzy but right now, the truth is they have to be able to pull people to be booked at some of these venues.
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Post by: Igziabeher on March 21, 2007, 01:56:29 pm
Quote from: Spacey;139499
Perhaps the band isn\'t looking to tour right now. What the band needs to do is build a solid following in their home state and region before going out on tour and earn money. The last few tours they have lost money and right now it doesn\'t seem feasible to go out on tour to do just that.

Lets all be honest, this band is a shadow of its former self. Like it or not, they really have to build up a fanbase again.

shadow of its former self?  you make it sound like the Breakfast were living large 3 years ago or some ****.

call me crazy, i just don\'t see how playing Bill\'s Bar, the Stone Church, the Ironhorse, Daniel St., the Mezzanote and the Electric Company over and over again is gonna build some miraculous fanbase.  I always thought exposure helped to build a fanbase, not playing the same 6 venues over and over again.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: Spacey on March 21, 2007, 01:31:10 pm
Perhaps the band isn\'t looking to tour right now. What the band needs to do is build a solid following in their home state and region before going out on tour and earn money. The last few tours they have lost money and right now it doesn\'t seem feasible to go out on tour to do just that.

Lets all be honest, this band is a shadow of its former self. Like it or not, they really have to build up a fanbase again.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: Igziabeher on March 21, 2007, 01:25:27 pm
Quote from: Spacey;139416
Crescendo only books shows and it has been the best booking in a long time.


i know they\'ve had a few tours from 05-06, but it just seems as of late that they play one northeast venue, and that night announce plans to play that venue again in a couple months, go to the next venue, repeat process.  i\'m failing to see what crescendo has been doing lately?  setting up a tour?  getting them on festival lineups?  haven\'t seen anything resembling either of those.
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Post by: peaches626 on March 21, 2007, 09:55:34 am
This is good news for sure.... lets get this ball rollin...
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Post by: Stephengencs on March 20, 2007, 08:42:17 pm
Quote from: Stephengencs;139424
...  If I were to guess I would say he has taken this on as a full time gig, but will be working other suplimental gigs such as ser guitarist in the Rockies for hire, and such.....  

I wasnt too far off......

again Phil, thanks and the best of luck in all your current endeavors.....
talk to you soon...
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Post by: Spunk on March 20, 2007, 08:37:23 pm
So currently I teach music to kids, but I am puting my two weeks in mid april, I am also an audio engineer for Shaped Music, http://www.shapedmusic.com, A house engineer for Hodi\'s  Halfnote http://www.hodishalfnote.com, and I am playing gigs with Orooni, 3 Peas and The Foot Clan. http://www.oroonilive.com   http://www.3peasfunk.com  http://www.myspace.com/footclanband   so my day job is almost done and breakfast management will be full time days, sound gigs are at night and on weekends, Im all in!  If anyone is goin to Wakarusa I\'ll be playing with Orooni and the 3 Peas. Unfortunately none of my playing gigs are too serious, but thats ok im still playing, and totally excited to be working for my boys back in Staven, ever since I saw them  in the Lot of the Meadows in Hartford End of June 2000, I\'ve been hooked, and have thought they could be the biggest thing in the world, and now I\'m gonna work on making it happen
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Post by: BennyBoomers on March 20, 2007, 08:13:33 pm
Verrrry Niiice! (Borat voice)
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Post by: Stephengencs on March 20, 2007, 07:09:37 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;139403
Where is Phil living now:  Colorado, CT, NY?

He is currently living in Fort Collins, CO.....

Whether it is his full time gig, i cant say.....  If I were to guess I would say he has taken this on as a full time gig, but will be working other suplimental gigs such as ser guitarist in the Rockies for hire, and such.....  I havent really talked with him since we were out there in Oct.....
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Post by: jking on March 20, 2007, 06:48:57 pm
that\'s really funny. in response to grellis\' thread i read this morning, i was going to reiterate that what they need most is a manager. as greg said, they have done eight years worth of flyering and taking on all that stuff on their own (basically) and its time for them to not have to worry about the non-musical side of everything. you\'re hard pressed to find successful, manager-less bands these days. too much on any one band member\'s plate. sure, some can, but most can\'t do it all themselves. so, way to go band! way to go phil!!! booking agency, check! management, check! next stop? the World!!
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Post by: derickw on March 20, 2007, 06:05:00 pm
Quote from: Spacey;139416
Crescendo only books shows and it has been the best booking in a long time.

I don\'t know if this is Phil\'s f/t gig, I\'m sure its not.

i agree it\'s just a matter of getting people to shows...... like it\'s always been.......
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Post by: Spacey on March 20, 2007, 05:48:42 pm
Crescendo only books shows and it has been the best booking in a long time.

I don\'t know if this is Phil\'s f/t gig, I\'m sure its not.
Title: The Breakfast has Management!
Post by: Overexjoesure on March 20, 2007, 05:09:28 pm
Is this Phil\'s full time gig?
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Post by: Igziabeher on March 20, 2007, 05:04:40 pm
sweet. hopefully that\'ll get some ball rolling.

how often do we have to go thru these \'not sure whats in store for the future\' lulls?  it seems like this is a semi annual occurance that we get told some news and get to keep our fingers crossed about it.

are they still aligned w/ crescendo?  what do they do anyways?

what about kroop?  this whole breakfast management thing confuses the **** out of me.  just play some **** shows not in the same 6 venues for once.
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Post by: leith on March 20, 2007, 04:22:27 pm
Phil is going to take the manager reins?
This is the best news to hit my ears concerning The Breakfast in quite awhile.
He knows what it takes to get **** done in terms of booking and promotion.

Now get them out here again.
TIA
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Post by: skalnbyc on March 20, 2007, 04:20:30 pm
Where is Phil living now:  Colorado, CT, NY?
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Post by: Gordo on March 20, 2007, 04:19:28 pm
fantastic news.
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Post by: wildcoyote on March 20, 2007, 03:57:55 pm
:yay:
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Post by: Stephengencs on March 20, 2007, 03:44:40 pm
Welcome Mr. Philip "Spunk" Salvaggio, but more importantly, THANK YOU for taking on this challenge.

To yours, the bands, and our success, Welcome!
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Post by: Spacey on March 20, 2007, 03:42:08 pm
We are all happy to hear this announcement about management. It is well needed and deserved.
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Post by: Buquebus on March 20, 2007, 03:34:46 pm
this guy shreds, tab00t...
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Post by: OMS on March 20, 2007, 03:21:17 pm
dece dece
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Post by: davepeck on March 20, 2007, 03:14:12 pm
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The Breakfast would like to welcome Philip Salvaggio to the team. Philip will be handling Management and Publicity. You can reach him at 607.434.3832 or email at philipsalvaggio@yahoo.com.

http://www.thebreakfast.net/