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Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: jocelyn on February 06, 2007, 06:37:18 pm
Quote from: bdfreetuna;133621
Well, it never hurts to be pure of spirit and intention

You mean... it never hurts to be a newborn baby?

:P
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: bdfreetuna on February 06, 2007, 06:28:36 pm
Quote from: Klout;133503
Cobb watch this video....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097&q=ian+xel+lungold

heh I watched all 3 of those videos. Plus just about everything else there is to watch on google video.

Interesting stuff indeed. Although I think some of the "unmistakeable historical turning points" he mentions as indicators of the transition of the 13 steps and respective sub-steps are a bit frivolous.

A lot of weird coincidences seem to be shaping up for 2012 --- the end of the Mayan Long Caledar being one of them.

Well, it never hurts to be pure of spirit and intention .. just in case ;)
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Jim Cobb on February 06, 2007, 05:48:24 pm
nah, the computer was on and this window was open, so i figured i\'d hit refresh.  wait so i guess the answer is yes, then...
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: jocelyn on February 06, 2007, 02:17:48 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb;133494
hah!  just woke up to pee and saw this and it made me laugh out loud.

Geez man you\'re checkin .info when you get up for pee breaks during the night?

:lol:
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Klout on February 06, 2007, 08:10:33 am
Cobb watch this video....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097&q=ian+xel+lungold
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Jim Cobb on February 06, 2007, 04:02:24 am
hah!  just woke up to pee and saw this and it made me laugh out loud.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: jocelyn on February 06, 2007, 12:53:32 am
Literally.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Jim Cobb on February 06, 2007, 12:26:13 am
sweet!
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: jocelyn on February 06, 2007, 12:06:51 am
Well... I was just being sarcastic.

But you still win a candybar!
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Jim Cobb on February 05, 2007, 11:56:25 pm
look if it\'s going to bring about a mass transformation in human consciousness, then i\'m all about it.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: jocelyn on February 05, 2007, 11:50:58 pm
So... **** it all.

Let\'s royally **** this floating sphere up.

The faster we **** it up, the faster it\'ll be rid of us.

Polar bear shmolar bear.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Gfunk on February 05, 2007, 11:49:16 pm
:wah:
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Jim Cobb on February 05, 2007, 11:36:13 pm
i dont think we\'ll ALL be all good.  and i never said catastrophe was going to be all bad.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Klout on February 05, 2007, 11:34:53 pm
we\'ll be all good. Just think positive!!!!
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Jim Cobb on February 05, 2007, 11:32:24 pm
i\'ll bet you\'ll see it strike midnight.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: omn8prdctns on February 05, 2007, 06:17:27 pm
i bet my kids will see it hit 2 or lower. any takers? (house gets all your stuff when we blow each other up or another ice age descends.)
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 25, 2007, 06:58:12 am
ah, one of my favorites.
Quote from: This day in history, 1/25
1995 : Near launching of Russian nukes

Russia\'s early-warning defense radar detects an unexpected missile launch near Norway, and Russian military command estimates the missile to be only minutes from impact on Moscow. Moments later, Russian President Boris Yeltsin, his defense minister, and his chief of staff were informed of the missile launch. The nuclear command systems switched to combat mode, and the nuclear suitcases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football) carried by Yeltsin and his top commander were activated for the first time in the history of the Soviet-made weapons system. Five minutes after the launch detection, Russian command determined that the missile\'s impact point would be outside Russia\'s borders. Three more minutes passed, and Yeltsin was informed that the launching was likely not part of a surprise nuclear strike by Western nuclear submarines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_missile).

These conclusions came minutes before Yeltsin and his commanders should have ordered a nuclear response based on standard launch on warning protocols. Later, it was revealed that the missile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Brant_%28rocket%29), launched from Spitzbergen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And%C3%B8ya_Rocket_Range), Norway, was actually carrying instruments to study the aurora borealis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28astronomy%29) over Svalbard. Nine days before, Norway had notified 35 countries, including Russia, of the exact details of the planned launch. The Russian Defense Ministry had received Norway\'s announcement but had neglected to inform the on-duty personnel at the early-warning center of the imminent launch. The event raised serious concerns about the quality of the former Soviet Union\'s nuclear systems.

It\'s like something Adams would have the Vogons do in Hitchhiker\'s Guide. We all die due to miss-filed paperwork.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 17, 2007, 01:29:37 pm
Quote from: davepeck;131222
if jack finds the other 4 suitcase nukes in time, will the clock be turned back? :chin:

Obviously a 24 refrence (which I have not seen), but are you talking about an atomic weapon in a suitcase, or a Nuclear football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football)?
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: davepeck on January 17, 2007, 12:31:22 pm
if jack finds the other 4 suitcase nukes in time, will the clock be turned back? :chin:
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 17, 2007, 12:13:20 pm
Quote from: FreeSpirit;131216
wow... I guess we\'re going to hell in a bucket, eh? :(
:hscratch: also, did he really "say" this or "type" it?

total cheap shot. If you must dig though, his ALS (lou gehrig\'s disease, why he\'s in the chair and uses the talk box) is so far gone that he can only communicate through blinking. He has assistants who translate what he blinks to them, they type it out long hand into the computer, he verifies it, and then his computer reads it back. There was a time in the early 90\'s where he could still slur his speach a little but it was VERY hard to listen to and it took a VERY long time for him to get any point across. Very sad.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Jim Cobb on January 17, 2007, 11:50:27 am
^cheap shot...
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FreeSpirit on January 17, 2007, 11:21:57 am
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At the announcement from London, Stephen Hawking, BAS Sponsor, professor of mathematics at the University of Cambridge, and a fellow of the Royal Society, said:
"As scientists, we understand the dangers of nuclear weapons and their devastating effects, and we are learning how human activities and technologies are affecting climate systems in ways that may forever change life on Earth. As citizens of the world, we have a duty to alert the public to the unnecessary risks that we live with every day, and to the perils we foresee if governments and societies do not take action now to render nuclear weapons obsolete and to prevent further climate change."

wow... I guess we\'re going to hell in a bucket, eh? :(
:hscratch: also, did he really "say" this or "type" it?
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 17, 2007, 09:51:28 am
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most of you wont care, but you can read the official statment here (http://www.thebulletin.org/weekly-highlight/20070117.html) and here (http://www.thebulletin.org/weekly-highlight/weekly-highlight.html).
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 17, 2007, 07:39:13 am
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The keepers of the "Doomsday Clock" will likely move its hands forward next Wednesday to reflect what they call "worsening nuclear (and) climate threats," to the world.

The symbolic clock, maintained by a magazine called the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, is currently set at seven minutes to midnight, with midnight marking global catastrophe.

The group plans to publicly adjust the clock this Wednesday.

Though the group has not specifically said so, all indications are that they will move the clock hands closer to midnight.

"The major new step reflects growing concerns about a \'Second Nuclear Age\' marked by grave threats, including: nuclear ambitions in Iran and North Korea, unsecured nuclear materials in Russia and elsewhere, the continuing \'launch-ready\' status of 2,000 of the 25,000 nuclear weapons held by the U.S. and Russia, escalating terrorism, and new pressure from climate change for expanded civilian nuclear power that could increase proliferation risks," said a news release from the group.

The clock was last pushed forward by two minutes to seven minutes to midnight in 2002 amid concerns about the proliferation of nuclear, biological and other weapons and the threat of terrorism.

When the clock was created by the magazine\'s staff in 1947, it was initially set at seven minutes to midnight and has been moved 17 times since then.

It was as close as two minutes to midnight in 1953 following U.S. and Soviet hydrogen bomb tests, and as far away as 17 minutes to midnight in 1991 after the superpowers reached agreement on nuclear arms reduction.

source (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/01/12/doomsday.clock.reut/index.html)
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Jim Cobb on January 16, 2007, 11:49:35 am
thank you sir.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: obsession600 on January 16, 2007, 10:56:20 am
how did this thread get this far without this?

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Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Todd on January 16, 2007, 09:09:28 am
<<< unreachable!!!
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 16, 2007, 02:53:30 am
Quote from: Todd;131051
My question is who\'s the tard going to be that takes the time to set the clock to midnight during the "final epidode"

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Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Jim Cobb on January 15, 2007, 11:04:50 pm
^post that.

2 minutes to midnight also popped into my head as soon as i read this.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 15, 2007, 09:06:15 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;130999
Robyn... basically what happens is... every time they move the hand.... 50 kittens are used for nuclear testing purposes.

Thanks Pandora.

This is actually one of the cool things about working at espn. We can pull in any feed world wide, news, sports, otherwise, etc. I\'ll have to call up transmission and get both the london and washington feeds coming into the plant so I can watch the whole thing live. I hate having my news broken up into digestable country-specific-propagandized 1 minute sound bites.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: skalnbyc on January 15, 2007, 07:56:43 pm
Quote from: Todd;131051
My question is who\'s the tard going to be that takes the time to set the clock to midnight during the "final epidode"

Final Episode from The Breakfast:  Episode 32 (Nuclear Winter)

???
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Todd on January 15, 2007, 05:34:41 pm
My question is who\'s the tard going to be that takes the time to set the clock to midnight during the "final epidode"
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: bdfreetuna on January 15, 2007, 02:23:50 pm
When Henry Kissenger finally kicks the bucket the clock goes back an hour or two..
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FreeSpirit on January 15, 2007, 01:26:12 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;130999
:point: Robyn... basically what happens is... every time they move the hand.... 50 kittens are used for nuclear testing purposes.

ahh, ok.  Thanks for the explanation, joc

::runs & hides Jerry in a locked closet::
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: jocelyn on January 15, 2007, 01:09:40 pm
This is not suprising at all.

I have been waiting for the hand to move for a while now, especially considering N. Korea and Iran.

Robyn... basically what happens is... every time they move the hand.... 50 kittens are used for nuclear testing purposes.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 14, 2007, 01:56:04 pm
basically whenever there is a major shift one way or another on the nuclear front, the clock hands move. It moved backwards when the iron curtain came down. It jumped up 5 minutes in the early 50\'s when russia detonated it\'s first hydrogen bomb, etc, etc.

I\'ve been wondering when the clock would move for years now given the fall of ussr and the open market, dirty bombs, and especially north korea and pakistan. I was sure it was going to move in 2001 when north korea landed a missle on the coast of alaska of a size capable of carrying a nuclear weapon.

Oh wait, that happened just months after 9/11 and bush declaired a news blackout on it in the USA because it would drive peoples attention away from supporting an attack on sadam when kim was attacking us. Unless you get your news from non-US based corportations, you wouldn\'t know anything about that, would you?
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: obsession600 on January 14, 2007, 01:44:41 pm
Quote from: wikipedia
The Doomsday Clock is a symbolic clockface maintained since 1947 by the Board of Directors of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists at the University of Chicago in the third floor of 6042 S. Kimbark Ave. It uses the analogy of the human race being at a time that is a \'few minutes to midnight\' where midnight represents destruction by nuclear war. The clock has appeared on the cover of each issue of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists since its introduction.

I just saw a documentary about the clock and its history or else I would probably be clueless as well. This is a very important symbolic event. I think that it will move up to 4 minutes to midnight.

How many people love the song "Two Minutes to Midnight" yet have no idea what it is about?
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: leith on January 14, 2007, 01:18:38 pm
2 Minutes to Midnight is an awesome song.

Quote from: FreeSpirit;130958
So, ummm... Call me blonde, but I don\'t get it.  What\'s the fuss about moving the hands on a clock?  Is it just for the significance of the whole thing, or will something really cool happen when they move the hands? :idunno:

Really? You really just posted this?
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FreeSpirit on January 14, 2007, 01:15:55 pm
So, ummm... Call me blonde, but I don\'t get it.  What\'s the fuss about moving the hands on a clock?  Is it just for the significance of the whole thing, or will something really cool happen when they move the hands? :idunno:
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: davepeck on January 14, 2007, 12:04:10 pm
doomsday clock translation:

if you\'re reading this, and you care, then it\'s time for bed.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 14, 2007, 12:02:52 pm
Quote from: Todd;130950
:drool: mmmmmm Spam :drool:

you track what is important to you, I\'ll track what is important to me.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 14, 2007, 12:00:11 pm
Quote from: Todd;130944
And again...the price of tea in china is...???

Tea bags (pack 25) CNY 16.29 $2.07 £1.09 €1.63
Note that in June, falling production in Kenya had increased the price of tea significantly and thus Pakistani importers are now looking the Indian tea as an alternative. These prices (http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:UTMgtYUxt0MJ:www.tefl.com/home/col_survey.html%3Fcou_id%3D44+%22cost+of+living%22+china+tea&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=24) are only for china made tea products (http://www.southasiabiz.com/indian_export_income/), not indian imports















:duck:
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Todd on January 14, 2007, 11:53:27 am
Quote from: FrankZappa;130949
So I guess I\'m the only one who got this email then, hu? :hscratch:

:drool: mmmmmm Spam :drool:
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 14, 2007, 11:50:43 am
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;130941
Paul Ryan = too smart for this board...

The fact that he even read this article puts him WAY over my head

So I guess I\'m the only one who got this email then, hu? :hscratch:


The old clock set at 7 minutes to midnight:
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I\'m guessing we are heading for 5, 4 at the most.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Todd on January 14, 2007, 11:29:52 am
And again...the price of tea in china is...???
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on January 14, 2007, 11:18:05 am
Paul Ryan = too smart for this board...

The fact that he even read this article puts him WAY over my head
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: davepeck on January 14, 2007, 10:16:22 am
err... ok super.
Title: Doomsday clock hands moved from 7 to 5 minutes
Post by: FrankZappa on January 14, 2007, 08:07:42 am
Been waiting on this one for over 2 years:

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-- Washington, D.C. and London News Advisory for January 17, 2007 --

Simultaneous Announcement to be Made from Washington, D.C. and London; Bulletin of Atomic Scientists to Underscore "Most Perilous Period Since Hiroshima and Nagasaki."

NEWS ADVISORY//January 17, 2006///The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists (BAS) will move the minute hand of the "Doomsday Clock" on January 17, 2007, the first such change to the Clock since February 2002. The major new step reflects growing concerns about a "Second Nuclear Age" marked by grave threats, including: nuclear ambitions in Iran and North Korea, unsecured nuclear materials in Russia and elsewhere, the continuing "launch-ready" status of 2,000 of the 25,000 nuclear weapons held by the U.S. and Russia, escalating terrorism, and new pressure from climate change for expanded civilian nuclear power that could increase proliferation risks.

The BAS news event will take place simultaneously on January 17th at 9:30 a.m. ET at the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Washington, D.C., and at 2:30 p.m. GMT in London at The Royal Society.  

News event speakers will include:

- Stephen Hawking, professor of mathematics at the University of Cambridge, and a fellow of The Royal Society;

- Kennette Benedict, executive director, Bulletin of Atomic Scientists;

- Sir Martin Rees, president of The Royal Society, and professor of cosmology and astrophysics and master of Trinity College at the University of Cambridge;

- Lawrence M. Krauss, professor of physics and astronomy at Case Western Reserve University;  and

- Ambassador Thomas Pickering, a BAS director and co-chair of the International Crisis Group.

A live, two-way satellite feed (with full Q&A) will connect the Washington, D.C., and London news events.    


TO PARTICIPATE IN PERSON: You can join us for the simultaneous, two-site news event taking place on January 17, 2007 -- 9:30 a.m. ET, American Association for the Advancement of Science, Auditorium, 1200 New York Avenue NW, Washington, D.C.; and 2:30 p.m. GMT, The Royal Society, Wellcome Trust Lecture Hall, 6-9 Carlton House Terrace, London.   Please RSVP in advance by contacting Patrick Mitchell, (703) 276-3266, or pmitchell@hastingsgroup.com.


CAN\'T PARTICIPATE IN PERSON?: In the U.S., reporters can join this live, phone-based global news conference at 9:30 a.m. ET on January 17, 2007 by dialing 1 (800) 860-2442.  (Media in and around London should dial 0800-028-0531. All other reporters outside of the U.S. and the London area should dial 001-412-858-4600, which is not a toll-free line.)  Ask for the "Bulletin of Atomic Scientists Doomsday Clock" news event.  A streaming audio replay of the news event will be available on the Web at http://www.thebulletin.org as of 6 p.m. ET/11 p.m. GMT on January 17, 2007.  

CONTACT: Patrick Mitchell, (703) 276-3266 or pmitchell@hastingsgroup.com.


BACKGROUND
The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists was founded in 1945 by University of Chicago scientists who had worked on the Manhattan Project and were deeply concerned about the use of nuclear weapons and nuclear war.   In 1947 the Bulletin introduced its clock to convey the perils posed by nuclear weapons through a simple design. The "Doomsday Clock" evoked both the imagery of apocalypse (midnight) and the contemporary idiom of nuclear explosion (countdown to zero). In 1949 Bulletin leaders realized
that movement of the minute hand would signal the organization\'s assessment of world events. The decision to move the minute hand is made by the Bulletin\'s Board of Directors in consultation with its Board of Sponsors, which includes 18 Nobel Laureates.  The Bulletin\'s "Doomsday Clock" has become a universally recognized indicator of the world\'s vulnerability to nuclear weapons and other threats.  Additional information is available on the Web at http://www.thebulletin.org. (http://www.thebulletin.org.)