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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: jking on October 30, 2006, 11:07:02 am
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IMHO Honeybutter is waaaaaay better than Surreal Radio
Eat that peaches626!
I agree 100%
r u ser kid....
i also agree 100%.... i just dont think surreal radio is, and i quote "the demise of the breakfast"
taintbag
Thats funny, I was gonna call you taintbag in my original post...
im not a taint
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IMHO Honeybutter is waaaaaay better than Surreal Radio
Eat that peaches626!
I agree 100%
r u ser kid....
i also agree 100%.... i just dont think surreal radio is, and i quote "the demise of the breakfast"
taintbag
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what i mean is -
i believe deuce is their best album.
i also believe that the band is exponentially better then they were in 2001.
deuce is amazing, and that was the band in 2001. can you imagine what it would sound like if they recorded it today??
hopefully that clears it up..
Ahh gotcha. Well if they recorded it today lets just say they\'d definitely need to make it a two-disk CD ;)
I\'m glad I\'m not alone in the opinion that Deuce rules the studio but also that Breakfast 2006 rules the stage
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crystal
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what i mean is -
i believe deuce is their best album.
i also believe that the band is exponentially better then they were in 2001.
deuce is amazing, and that was the band in 2001. can you imagine what it would sound like if they recorded it today??
hopefully that clears it up..
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^^
Well I\'m not sure what you mean by that question Dave... but I honestly do think Deuce is a better album. I can\'t see it being recorded the way it was in 2006, of course, because a lot of the songs on the album have evolved significantly since then.
I mean, you just don\'t hear old-school Buquebi anymore like on the album,... but at the time that was a good representation of the way they played Buquebus live, at least during the earlier PB shows I caught.
So, in that sense, no.
But here\'s the thing. When Deuce came out, it was a masterpiece for the band at the time. Each track was just about a perfect take... even See The Light which was shortened for the album was done so beautifully and creatively. Mooboo\'s Voodoo and Buquebus on that album are fantastic. The thing about that album was all the subtleties... and somehow the instruments and vocals sound better too--- waaay better than Real Radio and still somewhat better than Moxie Epoxy. More-- dimensional, more clear, more subtle.
Moxie Epoxy, to me, is simply a bunch of pretty-good recordings of their new songs, that sound pretty good. Pretty good is pretty good (better than Real Radio thatsfordamnsure) but I know The Breakfast has the ability to make another mindblowing album. Moxie ain\'t it for me.
I know part of my opinion is formed on the fact that I am not 100% behind the new direction the band seems to be taking. By that I mean rocking harder in general. I mean, I love hard rock and some metal, ****, Tool is like my 2nd favorite band... but that\'s not what Breakfast does best IMO and to see Tim playing power chords in between shreddin\' solos is cool, but its not why I fell in love with PB.
Eppy 3 is an exception to me and gives me hope that this hard-rockin-ness is not a permanent swing in the direction of the band. In fact I\'m glad they left it off this album, hopefully it will be on the next album with more intricate instrumentally-driven songs like it.
thats my 2 cents (see what you get when you actually ask for my opinion hahah)
... and with that said, the best show I ever saw them play was still just a couple months ago in Burlington. So it ain\'t like I\'m even close to being jaded with the band... faaar from it!
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It still amazes me that Deuce was so frickin awesome and that\'s with 5 years less experience as a band (or however long ago that was)...
to take another page from mr. maturo\'s book - can you imagine if the band recorded deuce in 2006? :wah:
(note: not sure if he meant with or without jordan, but i would guess with.)
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I like HB - I agree about it being maybe the weakest of the cd.
ME is by far the best record this band has put out.
I think Future Peek, psygn and OE are my favs.
I thought for sure FP - GT & SR would have been the focus tracks for radio
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I thought Surreal Radio was actually a pretty good take... if only the levels were tweaked a little it would be truly ass-kickin
But I always liked that song ;)
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yeah the "butta butta butta" on the album is cheese ball
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I actually posted in another thread that I think the audience participation on the chorus really helps make Honeybutter. It can be good even when sloppy (that was a lob) b/c it\'s more about energy than anything else. How can that be duplicated in the studio?
Surreal suffers from the same sort of thing, Tim\'s stage pressence and even the lights make it something to see live, but the studio just can\'t capture that.
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yeah i have issues with the production on the record, but i still like listening to it. i don\'t even know why i\'m posting. disregard this.
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Well I just listened to this album twice, once yesterday and once in my car today....
I have to agree Honeybutter was the weakest track on the album IMO... like something was holding it back from rocking the way it does live. Surreal Radio could have been a little more rockin too, the levels were too quiet or something.
Overexposure is actually my favorite track on the album because it sounds so good and it\'s the only song that, to me, really shows what Breakfast is doing live these days. I guess Psygn does too but almost any live Psygn I\'ve heard beats the one on the album.
well I could go on nitpicking but really I think it\'s a pretty good album. It still amazes me that Deuce was so frickin awesome and that\'s with 5 years less experience as a band (or however long ago that was)...
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haven\'t got the album yet b/c my credit card expired or some ****. but since it hits stores tomorrow, can I pick it up any store that sells music? Meanwhile still haven\'t heard honeybutter on sirius yet, but I have been listening to much Howard/Bubba/Ferrall. I had to get a new receiver so I have yet to store The Breakfast on my artist alert.
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dave, how have you, of all people, managed to not hear it yet?? and here i thought *i* was slacking on getting it ordered... :lol:
the only problem i have with the album is the way it was mastered - good things is too loud and surreal radio is is not loud enough.
that\'s where i was talking about missing an overall tonality. like the levels were all set per song, not started at the same point then tweaked. it catches the ear kinda weird....
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IMHO Honeybutter is waaaaaay better than Surreal Radio
i dont know about that.
honey butter is my least favorite track from the album, but its still the breakfast and i like the song. i dont have a problem with the way they did it, i just think its better live. the only problem i have with the album is the way it was mastered - good things is too loud and surreal radio is is not loud enough. and since those two tracks are back to back i think its a weird transition going into surreal radio. the guitar solo at the end of good things is so much louder than the heavily distorted guitar at the beginning of surreal. other than that i dont really have a problem at all with anything else on the album. i think all the songs came out really great.
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IMHO Honeybutter is waaaaaay better than Surreal Radio
Eat that peaches626!
I agree 100%
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Thats a good point about OE and Pink Floyd\'s Animals. The OE jam to me reminds me of a cross between Animals and the Inca Roads jam.
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IMHO Honeybutter is waaaaaay better than Surreal Radio
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i do believe honey butter is also justin spacebrush maturo\'s least favorite song on the album.
"does the song ever end??"
i still can\'t wait to hear the album..
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bfast fans are never happy, @ least they are playing something other than hot lanta.
im happy they even play the breakfast...did anyone notice sirius radio is in the thank you section of moxie epoxy?
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There is always going to be something you don\'t care for, but overall the album has a nice flow to it and is produced very well.
agreed whole heartedly!
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The vocal tricks always leave me with an "ugh", but that is because I\'m so used to hearing them live. There is always going to be something you don\'t care for, but overall the album has a nice flow to it and is produced very well. I will say, the jam at the end of the album in over exposure :drool: The rhoads is so great in it (remind anyone else of animals era floyd?), and then it just goes, turns to trance with the delayed guitar for a while, awesome. That\'s some sic **** mang!
Overall, I think this one knocked deuce into second place for my top breakfast albums.
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the moxie epoxy version of honeybutter really doesn\'t do it for me. lacks energy/too slow, not nearly funky enough in the breakdown, just doesn\'t have that ooomph that i love from live versions. i\'d almost prefer any other track to have been picked by sirius.
otherwise, i think the album sounds great. really good job mixing (though there are a couple spots where it sounds like there\'s a lack of overall tonal similarity -an album sound vs. song by song sounds) and great playing. honeybutter\'s really the only tune that i think didn\'t make the transition to the studio very well. doesn\'t suck, isn\'t worst ever, just doesn\'t shine as much as i was hoping for.