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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: leith on October 02, 2006, 12:13:32 am
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I have never said that I was down on the Breakfast. I love this band, I just hate when people bash other bands becuse they aren\'t the Breakfast, this isn\'t a competition.
I agree. I am only bashing p-groove and I will be the first to say that I would love to see the Breakfast tour with New Monsoon, Brothers Past, Lotus, TLG, Particle, ekoostik hookah, the Big Wu, Juggling Suns, Raq, Disco Biscuits (in addition to the obvious like moe and UM)- there are a lot of bands I like. You\'re right in that it\'s idiotic to have tunnel vision with regards to one band, rejecting all others - people like that are not good for the scene. And the booking situation is not good when it comes to twin bills/ openers. Hopefully we can get the ideal pairing, which means two great bands - not one great band and one mediocre band.
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Ozzy Osbourne has a great quote in Decline of Western Civilization Pt 2
"Be careful who you screw on your way up because you will see those people again on your way down."
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Yea......don\'t burn bridges, never know who can help you donwn the road!
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I have never said that I was down on the Breakfast. I love this band, I just hate when people bash other bands becuse they aren\'t the Breakfast, this isn\'t a competition.
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I have never said that I was down on the Breakfast. I love this band, I just hate when people bash other bands becuse they aren\'t the Breakfast, this isn\'t a competition.
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we all know this...
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I\'m pretty sure Gabo doesn\'t have any troubel getting into shows
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(hint: more all ages shows could help the Breakfast a lot)
I don\'t know about a lot, but.
I do know that myself, bezerker, and people like sally are not 21 and also have friends that are not 21 that are just itching to leach onto the necks of this band...it\'s uh frustrating sometimes..so yes there is some demand for under 21 fans...
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when i saw Pgroove @ the stone church there were less people than the b\'fast bring...but thats NH
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Breakfast doesn\'t pack the Webster. They don\'t even 1/2 fill it.
Well you would know better than I since I\'ve never been there. But I still refuse to believe P-groove is bigger than the Breakfast. They might be getting close, but you have to separate the casual fans from the ****, lifelong fans. The Breakfast has more devoted fans, more willing to travel,etc. P-groove gets good crowds only because of great booking. Half the people at these shows don\'t know or care what they are seeing.
As as for hometown shows, P-groove can fill a small theatre to about 1/3 capacity, and at least 90% of the fans are under 21, and 90% of those are not even 18. (hint: more all ages shows could help the Breakfast a lot). I saw maybe 10 people at the last show that were over 21.
And Walsh, if you are down on the Breakfast, it is probably a familiarity-breeds-contempt thing. I\'ve seen them less than 20 times so it\'s still really fresh to me.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Breakfast doesn\'t pack the Webster. They don\'t even 1/2 fill it.
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^^I remember being very frustrated, on that southern tour, cause they promised the guys packed rooms in 400 capacity venues and both bands ended up playing to no more than 60 people on the whole tour. But that was a couple years ago, you\'d know better living there now.
Yeah dude having the Breakfast OPENING for p-groove is like hiring the delta force, green berets, and navy seals to do security.
The couple slots that the bfast had opening for moe. were a HUGE step in the right direction but there were only like 2 or 3 of those shows. plus they were opening for the openers so everyone was out in the lot. i guess moe. and probably UM are pretty much out of the bfasts league right now, but i agree that bfast and raq would be ideal. especially if it was alternating sets ala the seth yac+bfast melting of the minds tour (which by the way was ser. i saw a memory of liz reed with the two bands that was pretty amazing, too bad it was in Johnston State Vt w/ very few peeps there to witness it.)
I agree that the melding of the minds tour was awesome - that was my first show and I instantly decided that the Breakfast was the best band in America. Unfortunately the tour was festooned with doozies, but they played their ass off at Jake\'s Roadhouse in Decatur GA in front of me and two other people and I\'ve traveled the country to see them ever since.
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The couple slots that the bfast had opening for moe. were a HUGE step in the right direction but there were only like 2 or 3 of those shows. plus they were opening for the openers so everyone was out in the lot. i guess moe. and probably UM are pretty much out of the bfasts league right now, but i agree that bfast and raq would be ideal. especially if it was alternating sets ala the seth yac+bfast melting of the minds tour (which by the way was ser. i saw a memory of liz reed with the two bands that was pretty amazing, too bad it was in Johnston State Vt w/ very few peeps there to witness it.)
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^^I remember being very frustrated, on that southern tour, cause they promised the guys packed rooms in 400 capacity venues and both bands ended up playing to no more than 60 people on the whole tour. But that was a couple years ago, you\'d know better living there now.
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Govt Mule now you\'re talking! I do think PGroove sucks, but it\'s mor ethan that too. PGroove is very mellow, Breakfast is not. Two polar opposite sets. People who would be coming to hear PGroove could be put off by the Breakfast.
Blues Traveler and Dave are both fairly straight up rocka nd roll bands (each with their own interpretation) and so is Phish (obviously with it\'s own ideas)
Keller and Yonder both right up SCI alley.
I am in no way opposed to the BReakfast being an opening band. THere\'s no argument, it would be good for them and open alot of doors. But I think the choice of band needs to be made very carefully.
The Breakfast = methamphetamine
Perpetual Groove = heroin (not a bash just a description)
Of course it would benefit the Breakfast to go on tour with SCI, mule, WSP, moe, UM or any other fantasy dream gig. To do this we would need to replace our current booking agent with some kind of miracle worker. P-groove does have such an agent, otherwise they would not have blown up. Pgroove and Moonshine Still are 2 examples of unbelievably shitty bands which have enjoyed mild success due to the magical powers of their God-like booking agents. Without their agency, they would still be playing in front of 20 people even in their home state. Which is still what happens when P-groove plays in Georgia - they don\'t draw **** here in Atlanta. The reason they have had success on the road is that their agent always has them at the perfect place at the perfect time, forcing large groups of unsuspecting fans to sit through their bullshit.
But Walsh is right in that it would benefit the Breakfast to go on tour with an arena-caliber, overbloated band. Of course it would benefit. But P-groove is not the answer.
And also -P-groove does not have a larger following than the Breakfast. On the road they create the illusion of being successful because of their agent. But p-groove does not have the equivalent of the Freakout or NYE Toads, and they do not have the ability to fill theatre size venues like the Webster theatre in their home state. Those are the critical money-making gigs, and P-groove just doesn\'t have those. I\'m telling you I live in Georgia, their home state, and they don\'t draw **** down here.
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if you\'re offering to babysit, im going on tour :)
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Govt Mule now you\'re talking! I do think PGroove sucks, but it\'s mor ethan that too. PGroove is very mellow, Breakfast is not. Two polar opposite sets. People who would be coming to hear PGroove could be put off by the Breakfast.
Blues Traveler and Dave are both fairly straight up rocka nd roll bands (each with their own interpretation) and so is Phish (obviously with it\'s own ideas)
Keller and Yonder both right up SCI alley.
I am in no way opposed to the BReakfast being an opening band. THere\'s no argument, it would be good for them and open alot of doors. But I think the choice of band needs to be made very carefully.
The Breakfast = methamphetamine
Perpetual Groove = heroin (not a bash just a description)
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Mandler you are missing my point. I was just using PGroove as an example of a band that has a different sound then the Breakfast and a much larger following that the boys would be able to spread their music to. How do they have the chance to be picky? Obviously touring with a bluegrass band(unless they went acoustic;)) or sts9(have steered completely away from jambands) wouldn\'t make any sense but other larger drawing jambands are the ticket. Blues Traveler and Dave opened for the Dead, Phish opened for Santana(a few times) Widespread opened for Phish...**** Keller and Yonder opened for SCI and they both have blown up...and the list goes on. Christ, the Biscuits opened for moe. this past February because they hadn\'t been in Chitown in a while and wanted to ease back into touring and they draw, on avg, at least 2000 people in the NE and easily 700-1200 other areas.
It is a good thing, no matter what Breakfast fans think of the other bands music. It\'s plain and simple; say the Breakfast open for Govt. Mule and do a 3 week, 20 show tour. At each show, let\'s say 200 fans of Mule go in early to hear the opener...that\'s 4000 people that might have NEVER heard the band had they not opened for them. they need to try it.
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Pgroove SUCKS!!! They are WAY TOO mellow a band to be touring with the Breakfast. I was on the last tour with BFast and PGroove, I would not want to see that happen again. BORING!! I was sleeping with my beer in my hand. I\'m not sure the guys would want to do it anyway, IMHO
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well walsh i think you\'re talking about what\'s wrong with music in general these days not just the breakfast\'s situation. it\'s all about draw draw draw. when i was younger, bands took other bands on tour because they thought they were good and could benefit from the bigger shows and it created a large, rich scene in which there were tons of really good shows to go to all the time. i miss that.
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Raq and the Breakfast are WAY too close to the same sound, that would get BORING! PGroove is BLOWING up right now and has a much bigger following than the Breakfast and Raq...it would be a great idea to do that again.
They should try to get a tour opening for UM or Mule...or maybe get Crescendo(WORTHLESS) to get them on a larger tour...I am guessing it isn\'t going to happen.
Again this board BLOWS my **** MIND!!! Here is the downfall of this band\'s following!!!
Sorry Rujah:
but I could suggest people go to the thread titled "Why other bands fear the Breakfast," because that is why I think some bands may be less willing to tour with the breakfast, but that is just pure speculation on my part.
That is the single most ignorant thread EVER on this board! No one cares about this band outside of the very small group of fans they have...bands like PGroove, UM, moe. Biscuits, etc, do not put them on the bill bc they do not DRAW!!! PERIOD!! I love the band and have seen them plenty but to say that other bands(that they are friends with!!!) are afraid of what they do-so they won\'t put them on the bill!!! Seriously...you people have to get off their jock and get realistic!!! Try to help the band and not put down other music...this board makes me sick!
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Yeah like RAQ is out in the chicago area right now and are touring with family groove company, who from what I know have a large following out in chicago.
As far as thebreakfast getting together with other jambands I think it is defnitely the best idea that has been thrown around hte board lately, but I could suggest people go to the thread titled "Why other bands fear the Breakfast," because that is why I think some bands may be less willing to tour with the breakfast, but that is just pure speculation on my part.
As far as I am concerned The Breakfast should be joining other bands, who have already established a prescence in the regions they are playing, especially on this tour given they are promoting a new album. I mean when Real Radio came out they did the same thing and no matter what people think of Real Radio it was a solid album that showcased the bands diverse talents and writing abilities, yet the band still seem to be struggling somewhat. With Moxie Epoxy being a much harder album and in my opinion a better reflection of the band they should be selling out this places. The album shows a lot of maturity and progression.
RAQ has been getting alot of play on SIRIUS lately, I am still waiting to catch that first Moxie Epoxy track, I requested they play Psygn today but haven\'t heard it yet.
holy ****. a coherent and insightful post from rujah. this is epic.
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Yeah like RAQ is out in the chicago area right now and are touring with family groove company, who from what I know have a large following out in chicago.
As far as thebreakfast getting together with other jambands I think it is defnitely the best idea that has been thrown around hte board lately, but I could suggest people go to the thread titled "Why other bands fear the Breakfast," because that is why I think some bands may be less willing to tour with the breakfast, but that is just pure speculation on my part.
As far as I am concerned The Breakfast should be joining other bands, who have already established a prescence in the regions they are playing, especially on this tour given they are promoting a new album. I mean when Real Radio came out they did the same thing and no matter what people think of Real Radio it was a solid album that showcased the bands diverse talents and writing abilities, yet the band still seem to be struggling somewhat. With Moxie Epoxy being a much harder album and in my opinion a better reflection of the band they should be selling out this places. The album shows a lot of maturity and progression.
RAQ has been getting alot of play on SIRIUS lately, I am still waiting to catch that first Moxie Epoxy track, I requested they play Psygn today but haven\'t heard it yet.
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gfunk, i was gonna say UM cause as u can tell, im a huge fan. however, i think its more realistic for TB to tour with RAQ than UM if anything
The idea is good in theory but remember when they toured with Seth Yac and did alternating sets? Nobody else remembers either becuase Seth Yac did\'nt bring any fans. They need to tour out west w/ a western band and down south w/ a southern band. If they tour with another NE band it might not do any good. And me! is right:touring w/ p-groove is a shitty idea because it sucks to have to see an inferior band go on for 2 hours after the Breakfast gets to play 45 minutes. No way would I get on a plane to see that.
But back to the topic of Epcot center, the boat ride that goes through the mexican restaurant is a perfect place to smoke weed!
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gfunk, i was gonna say UM cause as u can tell, im a huge fan. however, i think its more realistic for TB to tour with RAQ than UM if anything
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eventhough i don\'t like raq, i\'d be all for it if it puts more heads in the crowd and gets \'em in bigger venues. breakfast/raq, breakfast/brothers past, breakfast/perpetual groove, all of which would work and get new and different people in the crowd. it could also get them to bigger toad\'s sized venues that aren\'t in CT, places like the Paradise in Boston, the Higher Ground in Burlington(the main room) this is the kinda **** the breakfast needs to work on for upcoming tours. find a band of equal stature and do a tour w/ rotating headliner spots, 1 band 1 night, the next band the next. WORK IT!
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bfast + Umphreys
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i love this idea too..RAQ/TB
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lol, this thread is getting to be a constructive one...
I like this idea...steffmo, book RAQ/TB ASAP! lol...
no but raq/tb would be the ****...
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plus a bill with 2 or 3 good bands sounds a lot more attractive to promoters at good clubs than just the breakfast plus a local opener.
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I think that the opening/co-headling idea is the best idea I have heard. If you think about it, on a larger scale bands like Dave Mathews Band and Blues Traveler used to open for Phish in the early 90\'s. There is no better way to attract new fans than to find new fans by playing gigs with other bands within the jam band genre.
the jam sceen is getting stale imho.......
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I think that the opening/co-headling idea is the best idea I have heard. If you think about it, on a larger scale bands like Dave Mathews Band and Blues Traveler used to open for Phish in the early 90\'s. There is no better way to attract new fans than to find new fans by playing gigs with other bands within the jam band genre.
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raq and PB was a insane show at the webster
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what about co-headlining tours? raq is out there starting to make a little name for themselves, why not the two bands go out for a few weeks, alternating sets and combine name recognitions? or set up a whole cross country tour that way? play with tlg or new monsoon in the west, umph in the midwest, pgroove in the south, etc. i know that this has been done somewhat before (shared gigs), but why not do a tour that way? i\'m guessing extra logistical nightmares with two bands worth of folks on the road, maybe difficulty getting venues to pay full price for both bands, and i know opening slots aren\'t even really worth it time/effort/money-wise, but if both bands were splitting sets.... i dunno, just trying to think of constructive ideas that may help.
Been there done that numerous times. NOt that I\'m saying they shouldn\'t do it again.... They\'ve done a full tour with RAQ, and with PGroove, the BFast with PGroove is an awful combination IMHO. RAQ and BFAST on the other hand. :chin:
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no, i meant opening for bands of elatively the same size. obviously opening for bigger bands is a smart move at this point!
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i dont understand why they dont do this. in my old scene (punk/****), 3 or 4 bands would tour together and it was a great way of getting lots of people out to the shows and expanding one\'s fanbase.
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Opening slots not worth it??? Since when?? Unless you are talking about opening for someone drawing the same 40-80 person crowd, they are totally worth it!!! The band should try to get an opening slot for a tour or at least part of a tour with a band that has a bigger following like Mule/Umphrey\'s/moe./etc or even bigger(Where the hell is Crap-scendo??). Opening for bands is a GREAT way to expose new crowds to their music. I guarantee they would be progressing crowd/following wise at a greater rate if they did a few of these.
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what about co-headlining tours? raq is out there starting to make a little name for themselves, why not the two bands go out for a few weeks, alternating sets and combine name recognitions? or set up a whole cross country tour that way? play with tlg or new monsoon in the west, umph in the midwest, pgroove in the south, etc. i know that this has been done somewhat before (shared gigs), but why not do a tour that way? i\'m guessing extra logistical nightmares with two bands worth of folks on the road, maybe difficulty getting venues to pay full price for both bands, and i know opening slots aren\'t even really worth it time/effort/money-wise, but if both bands were splitting sets.... i dunno, just trying to think of constructive ideas that may help.
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so how did the promo go last night at Toads...... anyone attend.........
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i\'ve stayed out of this one but.....i travelled for shows for years starting with the grateful dead, many times for moe. and have been constantly watching for a breakfast vacation i can take....but...
A. i have a family that doesn\'t want to spend our vacations following around degenerate hippie rock and roll bands and their tour rats ;)
B. i happen to love the **** out of all inclusive resorts in the caribean AND Epcot....somethings wrong with that?
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What do you do with your vacation time? Go to some stupid all-inclusive resort in the carribean catering to boring married couples with no sense of adventure?
I\'ve done both style vacations and I gotta say, there ain\'t nothing wrong w/ the carribean. Last time I was there, I was floating **** deep in the Aruban waters with a head full of rolls and a steady supply of beer being fed to me by a dark skinned princess, watching the sun set and wishing I never had to leave.
However, by spring time\'07, I should have enough PTO and enough frequent flyer miles to do both, follow tB for a run, then recover somewhere south of florida.
AMEN!!!!!!!
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because they blow their load in the first set. they are the only band I have seen that constantly plays a longer 1st set than 2nd set. wish they would come on a little longer, play a shorter 1st set and have a longer 2nd set and encore.
Ya I second that...
But I think another factor may be as well, is how late they actully usally start. I don\'t know if this is a booking thing, the venue, or what...but some of use where talking about this when the webcast show started later than schedualed, and some of use wern\'t really surprised, seeing how TB doesn\'t really start before 10:30 usally...
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What do you do with your vacation time? Go to some stupid all-inclusive resort in the carribean catering to boring married couples with no sense of adventure?
I\'ve done both style vacations and I gotta say, there ain\'t nothing wrong w/ the carribean. Last time I was there, I was floating **** deep in the Aruban waters with a head full of rolls and a steady supply of beer being fed to me by a dark skinned princess, watching the sun set and wishing I never had to leave.
However, by spring time\'07, I should have enough PTO and enough frequent flyer miles to do both, follow tB for a run, then recover somewhere south of florida.
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because they blow their load in the first set. they are the only band I have seen that constantly plays a longer 1st set than 2nd set. wish they would come on a little longer, play a shorter 1st set and have a longer 2nd set and encore.
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siimple answer: Their ears cannot take the indulgence into what has become the most crazy, mind-melting insanity of music the Breakfast blows outta the speakers. :) get out while u can, or be forever changed ;)
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What I have always wondered is why do Breakfast shows sometimes clear out for the second set? Is this typical of alot of bands? Perhaps we should start locking the door before the setbreaks and not let anyone out lol. Just curious on what people think.
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All I\'m saying is... What do you do with your vacation time? Go to some stupid all-inclusive resort in the carribean catering to boring married couples with no sense of adventure?
lol !!!
Actually I already spend 100% of my vacation time making it out to CT, NH, NY, eastern MA, and VT to catch many of the Breakfast shows there.
A vacation for me = Breakfast + splurging for a hotel room so I don\'t have to drive back in krunk condition at 5:00am
And I\'m already way over the amount of vacation days I\'m supposed to take this year. Which means being a SER Breakfast fan has really taken a big chunk out of my already weak income this year.
Do I regret a single moment? HEELLLLL no!!! I wouldn\'t have it any other way :) . But... lol ... "vacation time" at a caribean resort... lol .. Where I come from if all my co-workers and my boss knew how much of my income I actually blow on getting to Breakfast shows alone... well lets just say I\'d never hear the end of it.
And for this reason I get pretty pissed when somebody comes up in here to tell us all that we aren\'t making enough sacrifices for the band -- it\'s just beyond me.
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I\'d be happier if ya\'ll could learn to have your disagreements a bit more pleasantly tho.....
you\'re right, The internet is a beast that can brings these things on sometimes, not being able to tell a persons tone and such things make it easy to take smallest harmless comment to be taken the wrong way.
I personally, as I know Leith does too, care a great deal about this band and anything and everything having to do with them. So I can get carried away at times. trying to be a good boy. :D
I keep a rooled up newspaper next to my keyboard so I can wak Lieth on the nose when necessary.
:lol:rotfl:lol:
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Interesting thread. You know it seems like a few more people should fly out west. I mean you got to take a vacation anyway, why not coordinate it with a run of Breakfast shows? In March I went to Arizona, went in and out of the Grand Canyon twice on foot, and saw 2 Breakfast shows. Awesome vacation. Why not do it? Now I\'m doing 5 days hiking in Arizona, and 2 or 3 Breakfast shows - should be awesome. All I\'m saying is... What do you do with your vacation time? Go to some stupid all-inclusive resort in the carribean catering to boring married couples with no sense of adventure? Or come out west and see these awesome national parks and scenic wonders, and cram in a couple of shows.
All I\'m saying is, before you say its a dumb idea to go out west and see shows, ask yourself: what could be a better vacation? What are you gonna do go to fuckin Epcot center????
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Jim....
I keep a rooled up newspaper next to my keyboard so I can wak Lieth on the nose when necessary.
BUT, like most puppies, you have to respect the undying love the Lieth exhibits with his commentary. Fact is, I don\'t mind listening to him most times because there are some gems of, dare I say it, wisdom that make it worthwhile.
I could live without the "I know everything that\'s wrong the everything" stuff, but I can get by that stuff.
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vic, just be happy he\'s turned on us now instead of you. ;)
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Me, Alex Defeice and Josh Kroop just spent the moning batting around all those issues.....
No simple answers as to how to build this thing better. But its pretty obvious to all of us that we haven\'t hit the mark yet. And that goes for all of us.....
Still...we have a great new record to promote and we are going about the business of doing just that. As far as TLG or any other band, its a tough business with very vague chemistry. Hell, if it were up to me King\'s X would have been the biggest band in the world. Last time around here they pulled maybe 200.
We are all working it, and we appreciate your support. I\'d be happier if ya\'ll could learn to have your disagreements a bit more pleasantly tho.....
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poop.
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...before you get up in everyone\'s mix tape.
that\'s fuckin\' fantastic! :lol:
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Leaf,
What the hell is wrong with you? You can\'t even imagine how much of an idiot you sound like. You are such a hypocrite it\'s a joke. For starters, you are completely jealous of all the successful people on here. They\'ve built up their net worth by making intelligent financial decisions, not spending every dime they earn. Go read the Wall Street Journal before you get up in everyone\'s mix tape. TLG is so bad they shouldn\'t be allowed to perform.
:slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap: (Sorry...had to do it!!) ;)
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I\'m not even gonna bother Erika. Check your PM box.
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Leaf,
What the hell is wrong with you? You can\'t even imagine how much of an idiot you sound like. You are such a hypocrite it\'s a joke. For starters, you are completely jealous of all the successful people on here. They\'ve built up their net worth by making intelligent financial decisions, not spending every dime they earn. Go read the Wall Street Journal before you get up in everyone\'s mix tape. TLG is so bad they shouldn\'t be allowed to perform.
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Why are people taking personal offense to all this?
I don\'t think leith cares about anyones personal affairs, nor do I think he wanted to attack them. Point is when you see a band with a bunch of home town kids trailing that says something...
That is truly all I was getting at. Thank you for taking the time to sift through my BS way of getting a point across.
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yeah. is that why you wish you were working for the breakfast.
Ha. Yeah I had that desire in \'03 and up to about Summer of \'04 when I realized I just did not have the dedication to move to CT. and actually try and get them to hire me on. San Diego is just waay to nice.
That and I realized I would be giving up the opportunities I had spent the last 3 years building. That is where I am now. Working for bands when their normal LD is unavailable and they still desire a high quality show. Being able to bail and catch shows I want to see is priceless.
why would he wish to be working for a band that pays shite?
The same reason Gencs and Ellis do. DEDICATION TO THE BAND and THE BELIEF IT WILL ALL PAYOFF IN THE END. The same reason anybody works in a band from the bottom up.
Oh and they get to watch 3 stellar musicians each night.
I have seen the Disco Biscuits in like 14 states and 2 different continents...soes that make me "HETTY"? I once did a run of 6 shows in 7 nights on two continents and I have seen about 141+/- Breakfast shows...that HAS to make me "HETTY"...wait no that just makes me happy and I keep a full time job and many vices.
Leith...I might be in San Fran for 12/8 and 12/9 for the Biscuits...you should go.
You sir are one of the Hettiest folk I know. You are the perfect example of what I am getting @. It is truly all about priorities.
We just happen to have some of the same things @ the top of the list like as much music as possible.
2 nights in SF w/ you and a bunch of Bisco freaks?
hmmmmmmmm Yeah I guess that does sound like fun. For right now yeah I am in.
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Why are people taking personal offense to all this?
I don\'t think leith cares about anyones personal affairs, nor do I think he wanted to attack them. Point is when you see a band with a bunch of home town kids trailing that says something...
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WALSH, check your pm box.
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I have seen the Disco Biscuits in like 14 states and 2 different continents...soes that make me "HETTY"? I once did a run of 6 shows in 7 nights on two continents and I have seen about 141+/- Breakfast shows...that HAS to make me "HETTY"...wait no that just makes me happy and I keep a full time job and many vices.
Leith...I might be in San Fran for 12/8 and 12/9 for the Biscuits...you should go.
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why would he wish to be working for a band that pays shite?
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Yeah well actually I have "made it" in my chosen profession. I work w/ higher tier bands that I want to work with and run lighting for some small fests like Baja Bash, Dana Point Blues fest...
I work when I want and have plenty of free time.
I love to spend some of it here watching people get so defensive over little **** like a local band.
Oh wow someone that actually walks the talk. Kudos.
yeah. is that why you wish you were working for the breakfast.
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Your whole post was for naught dumbass. This is not a TLG vs Bfast thread. Oh and Sorry to burst your hater bubble but TLG does have a bigger fanbase and support of musicians in a waay better position to judge musical talent than you for them to suck.
Try rewriting that in a way that makes sense.
Anyway everyone I knew at that TLG show agreed it sucked severely. Some of those kids also think Breakfast sucks-- but everyone agreed TLG was totally gay. I wonder what your TLG kiddie board said about that show... probably that they dominated the northeast and everyone raged out at the Iron Horse. Children have a way of exaggerating everything ;)
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thanks. its all in a days work really. don\'t ask me how, i have 0 disposable income whatsoever. but i do what needs to be done to get wherever i can get to. its the life i chose to lead, and i don\'t regret a single second of it.
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I love to spend some of it here watching people get so defensive over little **** like a local band.
:confused::sadban::rolleyes:
wow Leith made a thread for the sake of shittalking....SHOCKING!
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All I gotta say is TLG sucks. If you think they have a better/bigger fanbase I really don\'t see it. It\'s a straight fact that Breakfast outsells TLG @ Iron Horse venue by quite a bit. And the people at Breakfast are waaay more into the music.
Yeah there were a fair amount of people at the last TLG show @ Iron Horse, myself included. But a lot of the people there, like myself, had never seen the band before and just heard some of their tunes online or heard some buzz that they were pretty cool.
And like 50% of the people there, myself included, left after the first set because it was so frickin lame -- at the time somebody offered to smoke some *Beasters* with me and that sounded way better than finishing watching that boring snoozefest.
At least Breakfast gets people bouncing out on the floor and too busy looking for the pieces of their melted faces to consider leaving before its done. For some reason I think after that last show in Northampton, TLG isn\'t going to really be "blowing up" in this area.
Moral of the story = good press and buzz can only get you so far. You get a short-term spike in popularity but then once people realize the music straight up sucks, nobody\'s going to come back. Breakfast/PB has a SER reputation around here and when they play the same venue you can expect some seriously good times to be had by all.
Also all the fans were 14 year old spunions who will probably grow up and start to enjoy good music once their taste develops...
So yeah, TLG is soooo much more popular and successful than Breakfast? Maybe in your home town but that\'s to be expected. Out here its a whole different story.
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Really, for any of us to be defending how much we like the band or what we actually do for the band to you is a joke
Your whole post was for naught dumbass. This is not a TLG vs Bfast thread. Oh and Sorry to burst your hater bubble but TLG does have a bigger fanbase and support of musicians in a waay better position to judge musical talent than you for them to suck.
I am shocked that there are 5 pages of replies to this ridiculous thread. Leith, once agin, you have proven that you are truely clueless. Not everyone is a granola-fied, hippie - slacker with nothing better to do than talk **** about this band or that band "making it" (whatever that means in your book).
For the record, The Breakfast is not my favorite band. They are ONE of the bands I listen to on a regular basis. Back in the day, I was a "local" living in New Haven. Since I moved in 2001, I have been back to see the band in CT EVERY YEAR at least once... not to mention traveling to other shows all over the Southeast. So, I feel like I have gone well beyond the call of duty as far as supporting TB.
Maybe if you would spend more time on helping yourself "make it", you wouldn\'t be whining about your Kia and busted computer....
While I want nothing more than to see these guys succeed in their careers, I have something that is, to me, infinitely more important... MY career. Unlike the choices you\'ve made in life (which have obviously gotten you not too far), I have chosen a different path... one that does not afford me the luxury of dropping what I am doing to go on tour and support every show.
Get a life.
Yeah well actually I have "made it" in my chosen profession. I work w/ higher tier bands that I want to work with and run lighting for some small fests like Baja Bash, Dana Point Blues fest...
I work when I want and have plenty of free time.
I love to spend some of it here watching people get so defensive over little **** like a local band.
factor in that i flew halfway across the country to see a 3 night bisco run this may.
also driven 12 hours to hit a 3 night moe. midwest run and am about to embark on a 7 show in 8 day run for them as well.
considering the fact, that i\'ve clearly travelled far beyond what is considered local for all 3 of those bands in this year alone, i really think you\'re barking up the wrong tree here.
Oh wow someone that actually walks the talk. Kudos.
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their rather progressive style does not appeal to this rock/pop group that most bands get their notoriety from...so a smaller fan base/slower success rate is inevitable.
Also look where music is going...
4 beats per measure is getting old obviously because if kids are screaming vocals (emo) just to sell records...come on
but what really needs to happen if this band is going to make it is that people from the cities we play need to know about the show and band. It\'s the local music fans from across this country that will push this band to the next level.
In order for these cities/venues/fans to get exposure about TB they are going to need to push the touring bit more...Because if a kid see TB in his city once and they don\'t return for a year or two...it\'s well discouraging
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factor in that i flew halfway across the country to see a 3 night bisco run this may.
also driven 12 hours to hit a 3 night moe. midwest run and am about to embark on a 7 show in 8 day run for them as well.
considering the fact, that i\'ve clearly travelled far beyond what is considered local for all 3 of those bands in this year alone, i really think you\'re barking up the wrong tree here.
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i\'ve driven over 7 hours to see a one set show. drove 20 hours straight to hit up a 2 night run. i got nothing to prove to anybody.
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I am shocked that there are 5 pages of replies to this ridiculous thread.
Sorry largely my fault, I get carried away sometimes.
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I am shocked that there are 5 pages of replies to this ridiculous thread. Leith, once agin, you have proven that you are truely clueless. Not everyone is a granola-fied, hippie - slacker with nothing better to do than talk **** about this band or that band "making it" (whatever that means in your book).
For the record, The Breakfast is not my favorite band. They are ONE of the bands I listen to on a regular basis. Back in the day, I was a "local" living in New Haven. Since I moved in 2001, I have been back to see the band in CT EVERY YEAR at least once... not to mention traveling to other shows all over the Southeast. So, I feel like I have gone well beyond the call of duty as far as supporting TB.
Maybe if you would spend more time on helping yourself "make it", you wouldn\'t be whining about your Kia and busted computer....
While I want nothing more than to see these guys succeed in their careers, I have something that is, to me, infinitely more important... MY career. Unlike the choices you\'ve made in life (which have obviously gotten you not too far), I have chosen a different path... one that does not afford me the luxury of dropping what I am doing to go on tour and support every show.
Get a life.
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I always knew you were a self-centered bastard who only cares about himself!
you\'ve found me out, mark...
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All I gotta say is TLG sucks. If you think they have a better/bigger fanbase I really don\'t see it. It\'s a straight fact that Breakfast outsells TLG @ Iron Horse venue by quite a bit. And the people at Breakfast are waaay more into the music.
Yeah there were a fair amount of people at the last TLG show @ Iron Horse, myself included. But a lot of the people there, like myself, had never seen the band before and just heard some of their tunes online or heard some buzz that they were pretty cool.
And like 50% of the people there, myself included, left after the first set because it was so frickin lame -- at the time somebody offered to smoke some *Beasters* with me and that sounded way better than finishing watching that boring snoozefest.
At least Breakfast gets people bouncing out on the floor and too busy looking for the pieces of their melted faces to consider leaving before its done. For some reason I think after that last show in Northampton, TLG isn\'t going to really be "blowing up" in this area.
Moral of the story = good press and buzz can only get you so far. You get a short-term spike in popularity but then once people realize the music straight up sucks, nobody\'s going to come back. Breakfast/PB has a SER reputation around here and when they play the same venue you can expect some seriously good times to be had by all.
Also all the fans were 14 year old spunions who will probably grow up and start to enjoy good music once their taste develops...
So yeah, TLG is soooo much more popular and successful than Breakfast? Maybe in your home town but that\'s to be expected. Out here its a whole different story.
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Really, for any of us to be defending how much we like the band or what we actually do for the band to you is a joke
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i\'ll admit it, i care about my own career more than the breakfasts. thats why i stick around here and pursue it. sue me.
I always knew you were a self-centered bastard who only cares about himself!
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i havent read this whole thread yet, so im deeply apologetic if these points have already been clearly made but from the first few posts, i have to say....
1. tlg, i think, has a bigger fanbase than the breakfast at this point... bigger fanbase=bigger number of people flying away from home to see them... consider just for arguments sake that if the breakfast had 20 fans and tlg had 40 fans 10 fans flying across the country for the breakfast is equally as impressive as 20 fans for tlg... (this is not to say tlg has twice as many fans as the breakfast, or to say that the breakfast has an equal percentage of fans fly away from home to see them as tlg) also comparing a tlg show in there hometown to a breakfast show a thousand miles away is unfair.......
(note to leith, this is not to say your point about your experience at a tlg is moot... but i believe it is less significant than your original post appears)
2. I would obviously love to take off for two weeks and go see breakfast shows non stop around the country this month... but to do that i would have had to skip most of the shows in the northeast to save money for my wild trip.... considering this i may ask myself, "Self, will it help the breakfast more to see shows within two or three (or 6) hours of your hometown and being able to encourage 2 or 3 newbs to come to each of those shows, or to travel by myself or with another dedicated fan or two and attend shows across the country" to which i would answer, "Self, bring the newbs, dammit"
W/O turning this into a TLG vs thread....
To your first point.
Yes a hometown show is quite different yet The Breakfast have been around longer and they still do not draw fans TO them. I think that is a direct reflection of your second point.
To your second point.
Well if The Breakfast were actually selling out hometown and or local shows I agree there would be more incentive to travel and see the band there as was the case this weekend and TLG.
However the method you describe in bringing newbs does not seem to be working. For whatever reason local shows just do not sell and that is interesting to note.
So I feel the only way to make people realize the band is worth travelling to would be for them to see fans showing up in out of the way places. It really does get people jacked up for a band when reading on various boards about their trips to see these bands.
I know for a fact it has happened on the TLG board and the Bort.
Why can it not happen here?
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i havent read this whole thread yet, so im deeply apologetic if these points have already been clearly made but from the first few posts, i have to say....
1. tlg, i think, has a bigger fanbase than the breakfast at this point... bigger fanbase=bigger number of people flying away from home to see them... consider just for arguments sake that if the breakfast had 20 fans and tlg had 40 fans 10 fans flying across the country for the breakfast is equally as impressive as 20 fans for tlg... (this is not to say tlg has twice as many fans as the breakfast, or to say that the breakfast has an equal percentage of fans fly away from home to see them as tlg) also comparing a tlg show in there hometown to a breakfast show a thousand miles away is unfair.......
(note to leith, this is not to say your point about your experience at a tlg is moot... but i believe it is less significant than your original post appears)
2. I would obviously love to take off for two weeks and go see breakfast shows non stop around the country this month... but to do that i would have had to skip most of the shows in the northeast to save money for my wild trip.... considering this i may ask myself, "Self, will it help the breakfast more to see shows within two or three (or 6) hours of your hometown and being able to encourage 2 or 3 newbs to come to each of those shows, or to travel by myself or with another dedicated fan or two and attend shows across the country" to which i would answer, "Self, bring the newbs, dammit"
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Leith.
Your experiences are yours to treasure. Trying to shame people in to having them isn\'t going to work. There are many Dead shows I didn\'t get to go to because life came first. There isn\'t a day I don\'t regret not going to many of them however it is a balance.
1987-1988 was a different time. Grateful Dead shows and the scene surrounding it enabled many folks to be able to go accrosss country with little to no $ when they hit the lot. There were always folks going to the next show so you could get a ride. You could make money easy on the lot depending on what you were willing to do. Apples and oranges. following the Breakfast around would get you large bills and maybe a few IOU\'s ;)
How far could you go on a TLG tour ? If the rules stated you could only make $ in their "Lot" scene ? My guess is outside of their home turf you would have some issues making it or you would def. have to be pulling off some shady sketchy ****.
I tell you what. Offer us up some floor space so we can fly out and not have to pay for a hotel ? I know you have done it in the past. That right there would be more of a motivator then calling people out. Its a win win. Just like when you found a place to crash for free on the east coast. Free = more money for shows, traveling etc etc
Yes I agree the times were different but one makes adjustments to the present they find themselves in. As far as TLG tour, I am planning a midwest trip and it may put me in a hole and it may not. It is a risk I am willing to take.
I do not mean to shame anyone rather light a huge fire and make some realize that it may be time to actually start planning on following the guys for a few away shows. I mean you all seem to think they are in position to actually start making headway so why not help out?
My home has and always will be open to ANY .info\'ers that decide to come out and support the band or even just come out on vacation to kick it in beautiul San Diego.
or cause you\'re being an outright ****. What am I gonna sit here and say that I wasn\'t hoping while I was on the road with them that they were gonna break out? Hell no ofcourse I did. But so did you sittin in Cali, so did everyone here sittin in CT. But you make it sound like the only reason I went on the road was to try and make $$$. and that couldn\'t be further from the truth. I went on the road for the experience, and I got a great one. I rode it out until the breaking point. There were alot of people 6 months in that were alsking me how long I could do it. I made it 2yrs man, not a small feat. I approached this whole thread with decency, you are the one who brought it to another level. Yes money was an issue, but we live in America, where you need money to live. You try and live on next to nothing. Then we can talk. For a hippie dippy lovey dovey dude you sure judge people alot, esp when you have no basis. You may think you know me from the couple times we\'ve met, and yeah you have an idea, but don\'t bring you\'re **** storm down on me man. For the sake of everything let\'s just pretend like the other doesn\'t exist.
on with the rest of the rediculousness of the thread let\'s let this "thing" between the two of us die.... :rolleyes:
I do commend you on trying to make it on ther road. I don\'t think you went to make cash only. I mean you are somewhat realistic.:lol:
You had to make a decison for yourself and that\'s cool sorry if it came out that you bailed on the band or something like that.
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thank you so much. this thread REALLLLLLLLY needed that.
I agree honestly wishing I never opened this thread
I should have known better
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thank you so much. this thread REALLLLLLLLY needed that.
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The only reason someone reacts w/ such anger is due to the fact that THE TRUTH HURTS!!!!
I was right you did leave due to not making $$ I never said a shitload just that $$ would be a problem. **** you.
You have told me that to my face so **** you were you lying????
or cause you\'re being an outright ****. What am I gonna sit here and say that I wasn\'t hoping while I was on the road with them that they were gonna break out? Hell no ofcourse I did. But so did you sittin in Cali, so did everyone here sittin in CT. But you make it sound like the only reason I went on the road was to try and make $$$. and that couldn\'t be further from the truth. I went on the road for the experience, and I got a great one. I rode it out until the breaking point. There were alot of people 6 months in that were alsking me how long I could do it. I made it 2yrs man, not a small feat. I approached this whole thread with decency, you are the one who brought it to another level. Yes money was an issue, but we live in America, where you need money to live. You try and live on next to nothing. Then we can talk. For a hippie dippy lovey dovey dude you sure judge people alot, esp when you have no basis. You may think you know me from the couple times we\'ve met, and yeah you have an idea, but don\'t bring you\'re **** storm down on me man. For the sake of everything let\'s just pretend like the other doesn\'t exist.
on with the rest of the rediculousness of the thread let\'s let this "thing" between the two of us die.... :rolleyes:
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Leith.
Your experiences are yours to treasure. Trying to shame people in to having them isn\'t going to work. There are many Dead shows I didn\'t get to go to because life came first. There isn\'t a day I don\'t regret not going to many of them however it is a balance.
1987-1988 was a different time. Grateful Dead shows and the scene surrounding it enabled many folks to be able to go accrosss country with little to no $ when they hit the lot. There were always folks going to the next show so you could get a ride. You could make money easy on the lot depending on what you were willing to do. Apples and oranges. following the Breakfast around would get you large bills and maybe a few IOU\'s ;)
How far could you go on a TLG tour ? If the rules stated you could only make $ in their "Lot" scene ? My guess is outside of their home turf you would have some issues making it or you would def. have to be pulling off some shady sketchy ****.
I tell you what. Offer us up some floor space so we can fly out and not have to pay for a hotel ? I know you have done it in the past. That right there would be more of a motivator then calling people out. Its a win win. Just like when you found a place to crash for free on the east coast. Free = more money for shows, traveling etc etc
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Yeah tht\'s exactly what I meant..
I still have not heard anything but excuses. If I decided to stay in high school in my Senior year and not followed the Dead I may have gotten into USC instead of having to settle for SDSU YEARS later. Wow I bet my salaried life would be sooooooooooo good right now.
If I had decided to be a good little sailor when I was in the USN I may have missed out on Big Cypress and the numerous other Phish shows I bailed shifts for. Yeah I got in some trouble but I am here now AND I got an Honorable Dischrarge.
Maybe if I had not spent all that money seeing The Breakfast in \'05 I may have a better car than my Hyundai piece of crap or a better computer or.... **** that my memories of those shows are worth a **** more than you can possibly imagine.
Yeah the main priority in my life is music what else is that fulfilling? For me not much.
Well then, in the words of James Van Der Beek in Varsity Blues, "I don\'t want your life." (I don\'t know how to type in a sexy Texas drawl, but you get the idea)
Oh, and Dave, for a man who has just seen John Frusciante all weekend, I think you used a few too many "Buttfuck"s in that post. Oh snap!
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i blame leith.
i think he just wants to make us upset so he has just another reason to diss fans of the breakfast by saying that we think the breakfast are the best thing since sliced bread. I bet ya when he talks to his west coast buddies he just laughs at all us and than goes dancing with the little kiddies at TLG shows, which remind me of DMB fans. hope that makes some sense, if not this will, I blame Leith for not promoting the band on the west coast and instead just accepting bands (TLG, etc) whose fanbase is primarily on the west coast.
Yeah married couples in their 30\'s and 40\'s along w/ fans of ages 16 to 50 are exactly the same as the DMB fanbase.
go **** yourself ****. you are not in my brain and you have no idea why i did what I did. I thought it was a possibility, but no I went on tour with them because they were and are my favorite band. I quit not because I wasn\'t making a **** load of money but because I wasn\'t making money period, I\'m not gonna get into the lagistics of it, but you have no idea what my life entails, so get off your fuckin high horse leith. You dont\' know **** about ****, and neither do I, but at least I know I don\'t. You\'re an ****.
The only reason someone reacts w/ such anger is due to the fact that THE TRUTH HURTS!!!!
I was right you did leave due to not making $$ I never said a shitload just that $$ would be a problem. **** you.
You have told me that to my face so **** you were you lying????
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on a fine line i can see a point here. if a bunch of locals go out to a show and get down and have a good time and meet a couple **** fans from the bands home state or local stomping grounds i for one would be like wow... these guys are **** and if they feel this strong about this band to trek out here and see and support them maybe there really is something to this band.
ya sure all of us can\'t make it out to shows off the east coast but if planned correctly it wouldn\'t be THAT expensive. i\'ve rented cars for weekend runs that have cost me over $200 bucks plus gas and a freak\'n ticket. with all that spent in one weekend i prolly could have gone to an away show...... but in contrast i would have missed some great shows. it also doesn\'t help that there isn\'t a concrete schedule put out early enough to make finding cheap seats and travel plans (hotel, car.... ) and i usually use up most of my vacation time...... vacationing.... go figure.
but i don\'t think by coming on here blasting people for not making it out to away shows is the right tactic. there are many other ways people on .info can help the cause and get more people through the doors. the internet is a powerful tool.
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Yeah Chris you toured w/ the band as a roadie/merch guy hoping it would do you some good in the future. Be truthful it was not just to see your favorite band, you were hoping for something more and when it became obvious $$ would be a problem you decided to become just a fan. That is a decision you made cool.
go **** yourself ****. you are not in my brain and you have no idea why i did what I did. I thought it was a possibility, but no I went on tour with them because they were and are my favorite band. And for the same reason you dropped outta high school, the experience. My time in the van is one I will never forget, and somethign I will cherish to my dying day. (corny as it may be) I like Stevie now, had never seen ome of those parts of th ecountry that I saw with people I now consider family. SO don\'t tell me why I did or didn\'t do something. I quit not because I wasn\'t making a **** load of money but because I wasn\'t making money period, I\'m not gonna get into the lagistics of it, but you have no idea what my life entails, so get off your fuckin high horse leith. You dont\' know **** about ****, and neither do I, but at least I know I don\'t. You\'re an ****.
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i blame leith.
i think he just wants to make us upset so he has just another reason to diss fans of the breakfast by saying that we think the breakfast are the best thing since sliced bread. I bet ya when he talks to his west coast buddies he just laughs at all us and than goes dancing with the little kiddies at TLG shows, which remind me of DMB fans. hope that makes some sense, if not this will, I blame Leith for not promoting the band on the west coast and instead just accepting bands (TLG, etc) whose fanbase is primarily on the west coast.
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**** you, man.
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ok leith, so because you dropped out of high school to see the dead that means that everyone who doesnt do something of the sort for their favorite band (the breakfast) isnt worthy of being a real fan or something? please....i plan on having a future and loving the breakfast and seeing them often, however again, i do not see it as my job to make them succesful. i do my part by ordering every piece of merchandise and going to every show i can, but your essentially comparing everyones situation to yours. you settle for lesser quality things in life for the joy of seeing more shows. ok, congratulations, do you want a medal? this is a joke..everyone loves this band so much and you just say no ones doing enouch, your the kind of person who will keep the band down if anything with this bullshit
yeah leith but that\'s YOU. Who are you to say what\'s right for everyone else. That\'s great that you\'re happy with your life. I\'m really glad for you. You know what I\'m pretty happy with mine too. Just because it was right for you doesn\'t mean it\'s right for everyone else. We\'re all individuals brah, each person has to do what they have to do, on their wown schedules and merits. You coming on here and beating everyone up for not dropping everything isn\'t gonna change the fact that I have to wake up every moring and go to work and then go to school after work. So what are you telling me I should quit my job drop outta school and tour with the band. Thanks I did that for 2yrs, and where did it get me? not very far. SO now it\'s time for ME! As is the same with many people on here.
All I am saying is get it while ya can. You never know what the future will bring but you sure as hell can affect the present..
Yeah Chris you toured w/ the band as a roadie/merch guy hoping it would do you some good in the future. Be truthful it was not just to see your favorite band, you were hoping for something more and when it became obvious $$ would be a problem you decided to become just a fan. That is a decision you made cool.
As you have said that is your situation and I have mine and he has his and she has hers...bla blah. Still does not negate the fact that this band is worthy of touring for as evidenced by all the posts about the band yet no one actually goes out of their way to do so.
It has to start somewhere or it never will.
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your path doesnt need to be everyone else\'s path. you have no right to pass judgement on anyone here, leith. i would ask you to check your holier than though `tude. this thread is accomplishing nothing but making you look like a grade A ****. i know you\'re a good guy, but its really unfair for you to judge someone based on the lifestyle they choose to live. and p.s. the breakfast is not my favorite band.
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Yeah you\'re right. Sorry. If anyone on this board has travelled on his own dime for these guys it\'s you. Just got caught up in blastin\'
exactly leith, that\'s all you\'re doing anymore is blasting, there\'s no bas eto it it\'s just to talk siht at this point. Not to toot my own horn, but I havn\'t done a **** load for this band? Wolfman, Spacey, Todd, come on. we all do what we can when we can. Don\'t put us down for not flying to Cali. I as well have seen 250+ shows and make every one I can and will in the future. Don\'t try and tell us we dont\' do enough.
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well leith, you got me there. who needs a crappy summer vacation in las vegas when the wife and i could have been tipping back bud lights listening to the breakfast in wonderful boise, idaho in mid-october?! obviously there\'s something wrong with me/us. i could have been seeing my 270th breakfast show, but instead, i was at my 20th pearl jam show. WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?!?
you\'re talking to someone who has seen the band 260+ times in 14 states, has travelled to another country to see the band in -20? weather for a show the band didn\'t even make it to, and has recorded probably 96-98% of the shows he\'s been to. so PLEASE check yourself.
Yeah you\'re right. Sorry. If anyone on this board has travelled on his own dime for these guys it\'s you. Just got caught up in blastin\'
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:lol: Yeah tht\'s exactly what I meant..
I still have not heard anything but excuses. If I decided to stay in high school in my Senior year and not followed the Dead I may have gotten into USC instead of having to settle for SDSU YEARS later. Wow I bet my salaried life would be sooooooooooo good right now.
If I had decided to be a good little sailor when I was in the USN I may have missed out on Big Cypress and the numerous other Phish shows I bailed shifts for. Yeah I got in some trouble but I am here now AND I got an Honorable Dischrarge.
Maybe if I had not spent all that money seeing The Breakfast in \'05 I may have a better car than my Hyundai piece of crap or a better computer or.... **** that my memories of those shows are worth a **** more than you can possibly imagine.
Yeah the main priority in my life is music what else is that fulfilling? For me not much.
yeah leith but that\'s YOU. Who are you to say what\'s right for everyone else. That\'s great that you\'re happy with your life. I\'m really glad for you. You know what I\'m pretty happy with mine too. Just because it was right for you doesn\'t mean it\'s right for everyone else. We\'re all individuals brah, each person has to do what they have to do, on their wown schedules and merits. You coming on here and beating everyone up for not dropping everything isn\'t gonna change the fact that I have to wake up every moring and go to work and then go to school after work. So what are you telling me I should quit my job drop outta school and tour with the band. Thanks I did that for 2yrs, and where did it get me? not very far. SO now it\'s time for ME! As is the same with many people on here.
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ok leith, so because you dropped out of high school to see the dead that means that everyone who doesnt do something of the sort for their favorite band (the breakfast) isnt worthy of being a real fan or something? please....i plan on having a future and loving the breakfast and seeing them often, however again, i do not see it as my job to make them succesful. i do my part by ordering every piece of merchandise and going to every show i can, but your essentially comparing everyones situation to yours. you settle for lesser quality things in life for the joy of seeing more shows. ok, congratulations, do you want a medal? this is a joke..everyone loves this band so much and you just say no ones doing enouch, your the kind of person who will keep the band down if anything with this bullshit
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your right the Breakfast has no balls, **** I forgot I recant anything I\'ve ever said. You know leith why don\'t you start a band, and work at making it sucessful, and then come on here and start some ****.
See right there is your guilty conscience about the band again. I NEVER SAID The Breakfast does not have balls.
It was a general statement that since they are from the west coast it is ballsy to play NYE AWAY from home.
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Well instead of flying out to Vegas for a band that really does not need your money and will most def. be around for years to come you could have planned a jaunt out to support your friends.
well leith, you got me there. who needs a crappy summer vacation in las vegas when the wife and i could have been tipping back bud lights listening to the breakfast in wonderful boise, idaho in mid-october?! obviously there\'s something wrong with me/us. i could have been seeing my 270th breakfast show, but instead, i was at my 20th pearl jam show. WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?!?
you\'re talking to someone who has seen the band 260+ times in 14 states, has travelled to another country to see the band in -20? weather for a show the band didn\'t even make it to, and has recorded probably 96-98% of the shows he\'s been to. so PLEASE check yourself.
Dude, man, brah, you\'re totally right! What the hell I\'m I doing thinking about my life and future, I gotta be thinkin about the Breakfast\'s future! How unbelievably seflish I\'ve been. I\'m repenting my futile ways right now, in front of all y\'all dot infoers, my mission is now to help these guys make it. Get a Phd, screw that, how does that help the Breakfast? Answer: it doesnt, bye-bye. Savin money for applications? I can use that money to fly out to Wisonsin and get drunk at some bar and talk up my buddies. Money for school? **** it, I\'m gonna trip my balls off in San Diego and tell everyone this is the best band ever. Work? Lame, I work for the Breakfast now. My house? Whatever, I don\'t see the Breakfast living here, do you? My band? Is it called the Breakfast, let me check...nope, peace out guys, I\'m off to Tennesee!
I can see it now, years later, Breakfast is the biggest thing since Nickelback! Money, fans, cars, houses, and I helped! "Hey Ron, awesome show man (at f\'n Meadowlands, biatch!), say, my rent\'s overdue, can you spot me a few bucks? No? Oh well, that\'s cool man. Oh, take a shower? Sure, once I sell enough frienship bracelets and veggie burritoes to get my water turned back on." Man, years after that, Breakfast are rock legends! I can tell my kids how I was part of that musical revolution (they\'ll have plenty of time to listen, since I have no money to send them to college). Now I can lay on my deathbed and thank God above that I sacrificed my life for, not the poor, the sick, or the homeless diseased orphans, but the mother f\'n Breakfast!
Dude **** that
powerslave\'s posts = quality, not quantity. :thumbsup:
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Chris well my NYE may well be 4 nights back east. Seeing as TLG has balls to do NYE on the opposite coast!
12.28.06 Teaneck, NJ @ Mexicali Blues
12.29.06 Falls Church, VA @ The State Theatre
12.30.06 Annapolis, MD @ Rams Head (acoustic)
12.31.06 Philadelphia, PA @ TLA (with The Brakes)
your right the Breakfast has no balls, **** I forgot I recant anything I\'ve ever said. You know leith why don\'t you start a band, and work at making it sucessful, and then come on here and start some ****.
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Dude, man, brah, you\'re totally right! What the hell I\'m I doing thinking about my life and future, I gotta be thinkin about the Breakfast\'s future! How unbelievably seflish I\'ve been. I\'m repenting my futile ways right now, in front of all y\'all dot infoers, my mission is now to help these guys make it. Get a Phd, screw that, how does that help the Breakfast? Answer: it doesnt, bye-bye. Savin money for applications? I can use that money to fly out to Wisonsin and get drunk at some bar and talk up my buddies. Money for school? **** it, I\'m gonna trip my balls off in San Diego and tell everyone this is the best band ever. Work? Lame, I work for the Breakfast now. My house? Whatever, I don\'t see the Breakfast living here, do you? My band? Is it called the Breakfast, let me check...nope, peace out guys, I\'m off to Tennesee!
I can see it now, years later, Breakfast is the biggest thing since Nickelback! Money, fans, cars, houses, and I helped! "Hey Ron, awesome show man (at f\'n Meadowlands, biatch!), say, my rent\'s overdue, can you spot me a few bucks? No? Oh well, that\'s cool man. Oh, take a shower? Sure, once I sell enough frienship bracelets and veggie burritoes to get my water turned back on." Man, years after that, Breakfast are rock legends! I can tell my kids how I was part of that musical revolution (they\'ll have plenty of time to listen, since I have no money to send them to college). Now I can lay on my deathbed and thank God above that I sacrificed my life for, not the poor, the sick, or the homeless diseased orphans, but the mother f\'n Breakfast!
Dude **** that
:lol: Yeah tht\'s exactly what I meant..
I still have not heard anything but excuses. If I decided to stay in high school in my Senior year and not followed the Dead I may have gotten into USC instead of having to settle for SDSU YEARS later. Wow I bet my salaried life would be sooooooooooo good right now.
If I had decided to be a good little sailor when I was in the USN I may have missed out on Big Cypress and the numerous other Phish shows I bailed shifts for. Yeah I got in some trouble but I am here now AND I got an Honorable Dischrarge.
Maybe if I had not spent all that money seeing The Breakfast in \'05 I may have a better car than my Hyundai piece of crap or a better computer or.... **** that my memories of those shows are worth a **** more than you can possibly imagine.
Yeah the main priority in my life is music what else is that fulfilling? For me not much.
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I never said the Breakfast was my favorite band.
:lol: true true
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Letihbag strikes again.
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Dude, man, brah, you\'re totally right! What the hell I\'m I doing thinking about my life and future, I gotta be thinkin about the Breakfast\'s future! How unbelievably seflish I\'ve been. I\'m repenting my futile ways right now, in front of all y\'all dot infoers, my mission is now to help these guys make it. Get a Phd, screw that, how does that help the Breakfast? Answer: it doesnt, bye-bye. Savin money for applications? I can use that money to fly out to Wisonsin and get drunk at some bar and talk up my buddies. Money for school? **** it, I\'m gonna trip my balls off in San Diego and tell everyone this is the best band ever. Work? Lame, I work for the Breakfast now. My house? Whatever, I don\'t see the Breakfast living here, do you? My band? Is it called the Breakfast, let me check...nope, peace out guys, I\'m off to Tennesee!
I can see it now, years later, Breakfast is the biggest thing since Nickelback! Money, fans, cars, houses, and I helped! "Hey Ron, awesome show man (at f\'n Meadowlands, biatch!), say, my rent\'s overdue, can you spot me a few bucks? No? Oh well, that\'s cool man. Oh, take a shower? Sure, once I sell enough frienship bracelets and veggie burritoes to get my water turned back on." Man, years after that, Breakfast are rock legends! I can tell my kids how I was part of that musical revolution (they\'ll have plenty of time to listen, since I have no money to send them to college). Now I can lay on my deathbed and thank God above that I sacrificed my life for, not the poor, the sick, or the homeless diseased orphans, but the mother f\'n Breakfast!
Dude **** that
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Dude, man, brah, you\'re totally right! What the hell I\'m I doing thinking about my life and future, I gotta be thinkin about the Breakfast\'s future! How unbelievably seflish I\'ve been. I\'m repenting my futile ways right now, in front of all y\'all dot infoers, my mission is now to help these guys make it. Get a Phd, screw that, how does that help the Breakfast? Answer: it doesnt, bye-bye. Savin money for applications? I can use that money to fly out to Wisonsin and get drunk at some bar and talk up my buddies. Money for school? **** it, I\'m gonna trip my balls off in San Diego and tell everyone this is the best band ever. Work? Lame, I work for the Breakfast now. My house? Whatever, I don\'t see the Breakfast living here, do you? My band? Is it called the Breakfast, let me check...nope, peace out guys, I\'m off to Tennesee!
I can see it now, years later, Breakfast is the biggest thing since Nickelback! Money, fans, cars, houses, and I helped! "Hey Ron, awesome show man (at f\'n Meadowlands, biatch!), say, my rent\'s overdue, can you spot me a few bucks? No? Oh well, that\'s cool man. Oh, take a shower? Sure, once I sell enough frienship bracelets and veggie burritoes to get my water turned back on." Man, years after that, Breakfast are rock legends! I can tell my kids how I was part of that musical revolution (they\'ll have plenty of time to listen, since I have no money to send them to college). Now I can lay on my deathbed and thank God above that I sacrificed my life for, not the poor, the sick, or the homeless diseased orphans, but the mother f\'n Breakfast!
Dude **** that
POST OF THE YEAR!!!
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still just trying to start **** here leith.
Alot of very reasonable logical points have been made here, and other than Mike, you ignored than all and stuck with your bull headed blind attitude. What are you accomplishing man.
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I never said the Breakfast was my favorite band.
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Dude, man, brah, you\'re totally right! What the hell I\'m I doing thinking about my life and future, I gotta be thinkin about the Breakfast\'s future! How unbelievably seflish I\'ve been. I\'m repenting my futile ways right now, in front of all y\'all dot infoers, my mission is now to help these guys make it. Get a Phd, screw that, how does that help the Breakfast? Answer: it doesnt, bye-bye. Savin money for applications? I can use that money to fly out to Wisonsin and get drunk at some bar and talk up my buddies. Money for school? **** it, I\'m gonna trip my balls off in San Diego and tell everyone this is the best band ever. Work? Lame, I work for the Breakfast now. My house? Whatever, I don\'t see the Breakfast living here, do you? My band? Is it called the Breakfast, let me check...nope, peace out guys, I\'m off to Tennesee!
I can see it now, years later, Breakfast is the biggest thing since Nickelback! Money, fans, cars, houses, and I helped! "Hey Ron, awesome show man (at f\'n Meadowlands, biatch!), say, my rent\'s overdue, can you spot me a few bucks? No? Oh well, that\'s cool man. Oh, take a shower? Sure, once I sell enough frienship bracelets and veggie burritoes to get my water turned back on." Man, years after that, Breakfast are rock legends! I can tell my kids how I was part of that musical revolution (they\'ll have plenty of time to listen, since I have no money to send them to college). Now I can lay on my deathbed and thank God above that I sacrificed my life for, not the poor, the sick, or the homeless diseased orphans, but the mother f\'n Breakfast!
Dude **** that
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What is the matter Leith, you get tired of bitching at the mgmt. for holding the band back so now you are going to blame the fans?
I just think it is laughable no one travels for this band outside of NE.
i\'m really failing to see the logic here.
leith, all you\'re talking about doing is padding numbers.. let\'s say the breakfast plays in Buttfuck, USA, and draws 9 people to the show. now let\'s be generous and say there\'s 20 **** breakfast fans out on tour. so now there\'s 29 people at the Buttfuck show, but there\'s still only 9 there from Buttfuck. the rest of the people are already established fans.
explain to me again how this makes them bigger?
hey, i\'d love to just drop everything and go on the road with the band for a month. i long for the days when i was able to take entire summers off at a time and go on phish tour. things were a LOT simpler then, and i\'m just not in that place anymore.. and not many people are.. hell, i\'m thankful to be able to see the amount of shows i do get to see.. :shrug:
Well instead of flying out to Vegas or trekking to Ont. for a band that really does not need your money and will most def. be around for years to come you could have planned a jaunt out to support your friends. It\'s all about priorities I agree but for all the talk you people do here I laugh when doozies are reported.
Dude, I tried to be cool about this, but then you had to come back and act like an 8yr old. Why don\'t you address all of us with the kindness you address the managment in your email. WHy do you feel the need to degrade us?
Don\'t tell me about my life leithbag. I\'m doing my **** and you have no idea what\'s going on in my life or anyone else\'s on this board. You\'re probably right some people could make trek. But alas I cannot. Many here cannot. Hey man I did see them in nearly every state they\'ve played in. But that\'s besides the point.
As someone else said it\'s our job is to be here for the local shows. I use most of my vacation time one to two days at a time to make the farther away local shows, the long weekend runs. So I just don\'t really have any left. Why don\'t you focus on getting heads to shows there and we\'ll do the same here.
Also, TLG is from SanFran, which helps. As I said we\'ll be having some long distance heads here for the Freakout, cause it\'s a home town show and there\'s a certain appeal to that. Why don\'t you fly out here for a TLG show huh? Come on Leith I mean support your favorite band. Let\'s go slacker. You flew out here to see The Breakfast cause it\'s hometown. Why don\'t you fly to Chicago and see them, or TLG. Fly to bummble **** middle america to see them. If you reallly want to support the band. Or do you just want to log on here once a week blame the managment, and when that doesn\'t work tell us it\'s our fault.
Fine, you\'re right the music is not the prob. I\'m just saying it can be easier for the initial laidback fan to get into it, it\'s sounds just like everything else. It\'s familiar.
I don\'t **** on here when there are doozies, I dont\' think alot of people do. I\'m not saying no one does. But we\'re bummed the show wasn\'t packed, but bitching is the wrong word.
I\'m not saying you\'re completely wrong here, and I didn\'t in my first post which is why it angers me you feel the need to be so mean on the rebutle. I think alot of peopl on here don\'t disagree with every thing you say, just the way you say it.
You\'ll catch more flys with honey than with vinegar. People will take you more seriously if you weren\'t such a Leithbag.
That being said, since yes you are a cool cat in person. When are we gonna see you out here again? :D Come on make the trek for the freakout.....
edit:see Dave\'s above post
Chris well my NYE may well be 4 nights back east. Seeing as TLG has balls to do NYE on the opposite coast!
12.28.06 Teaneck, NJ @ Mexicali Blues
12.29.06 Falls Church, VA @ The State Theatre
12.30.06 Annapolis, MD @ Rams Head (acoustic)
12.31.06 Philadelphia, PA @ TLA (with The Brakes)
leith, i couldnt disagree with you more..like "Me!" said earlier, the majority of the fans on .info do everything they can do to support the band and I think that is the reason they are still around. And yes, people can not just leave their everyday jobs or responsibilities to catch a breakfast show in a different state. again it would be great if they could, however they cant. I go to school in the city and I see the breakfast every chance I get. I can\'t always just leave school to go see them but when they are playing somewhere else and I am already there, I make it my priority to see them. All of these **** fans have seen well over 200 shows and are doing their part and i genuinely dont think its right or ok for you to come out of nowhere and tell them they are not doing enough. everyone on here knows the bands representation is an issue and everyone (including myself) is doing their part to help the band move along however we can. so try not to come on the this board and be so acusatory of fans who really would do nearly anything for the band
Anything for the band but touring.
Leith, regardless of how you put it, I see your point. It would be amazing to have some **** breakfast heads out here on the road, but what really needs to happen if this band is going to make it is that people from the cities we play need to know about the show and band. It\'s the local music fans from across this country that will push this band to the next level. If there is a demand for something, the supply shall follow. The Breakfast have their New England fans, and I know that if it wasn\'t for this thing called life, there would be quite a few familiar faces along with us on this tour (or even just parts of it).
Blah, Blah, Blah Leithbag. DavePec said it perfectly.
For myself, I have the Disco Biscuits, they bring me to a place that NO OTHER BAND has ever taken me. This includes Phish, The Dead and , yes it is possible, The Breakfast. No one on here may understand or agree, but it is how it is. When they tour around, i try to hit every show I can, because they don\'t play as many during the year. When I am not going on the road for them, i hit as many Breakfast shows as possible. I have seen the Breakfast almost twice as much as the Biscuits, but the tDB runs cost alot of money, but I am not going to stop going on those, sorry pal.
Stop trying to BLAME people and start trying to do positive things to actually help the Breakfast with all this desire you have for the band. You don\'t know **** about other peoples lives, so just worry about yourself.
i am completely with dave/jimbo on this one. leith, you cannot expect that everyone is so available to drop their everyday commitments and go on breakfast tour. come on now...we all have responsibilities to deal with. yes, it would be fun, but we can\'t all do it. it\'s awesome that some of the die hards are able to/have been able to go out west and see the band as well as west coasters coming east. it\'s really a great thing, but it also doesn\'t do as much as we would like to think for the band.
Yeah you are all correct.
You all have better things to do than support your favorite band when it becomes even remotely uncomfortable to do so. OK whatever.
leith = Drama
You know you really need some perspective.
You work in the music industry so your life pretty much revolves around the music scene. You make your $ from waht you have indicated on the board doing lighting and etc for money. So your personal life and job all revolve around music. Good for you. I would imagine much of your life also falls in to the non 9-5 grind as many of us have to endure. How many shows that you go to do you even pay to go to ? My guess is that you have the hook ups and probably get listed at many shows. All these things help YOU to go to many shows others cannot do because of jobs, money etc. It also saves you cash that you can spend on other stuff. Perhaps you just have more $ than everybody else but your situation does not translate in to everyone elses.
So lets compare. TLG is having a 2 night run in their hometown (or close to it) on the weekend and people fly out for shows. hmmm. When the Breakfast did a local 2 night run I recall you as well as others flew and drove in from afar to go to the show. So why all the hating ?
The bands drawing power has nothing to do with the die hard fans here on the board. many here do not have the finances or time available to them to make a cross country trek.
Hell I was looking at Peck\'s "tapers needed" thread on another board trying to see if I could fly out to seattle for the weekend to catch a show and make a tape.
So whats the point of all this. I think many if not all of us if we had the time, money and security to do so would drop everything and go on tour with the band. But I\'m not 19 anymore and unfortunately dropping everything and anything to drive around the country to see music isn\'t my primary concern in life as it once was.
Yeah Mike I don\'t pay for most of the shows I go to so I can understand your point there. Not everyone can be so lucky but actually it\'s not luck but the hard work I do and the contacts I make doing my work.
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leith = Drama
You know you really need some perspective.
You work in the music industry so your life pretty much revolves around the music scene. You make your $ from waht you have indicated on the board doing lighting and etc for money. So your personal life and job all revolve around music. Good for you. I would imagine much of your life also falls in to the non 9-5 grind as many of us have to endure. How many shows that you go to do you even pay to go to ? My guess is that you have the hook ups and probably get listed at many shows. All these things help YOU to go to many shows others cannot do because of jobs, money etc. It also saves you cash that you can spend on other stuff. Perhaps you just have more $ than everybody else but your situation does not translate in to everyone elses.
So lets compare. TLG is having a 2 night run in their hometown (or close to it) on the weekend and people fly out for shows. hmmm. When the Breakfast did a local 2 night run I recall you as well as others flew and drove in from afar to go to the show. So why all the hating ?
The bands drawing power has nothing to do with the die hard fans here on the board. many here do not have the finances or time available to them to make a cross country trek.
Hell I was looking at Peck\'s "tapers needed" thread on another board trying to see if I could fly out to seattle for the weekend to catch a show and make a tape.
So whats the point of all this. I think many if not all of us if we had the time, money and security to do so would drop everything and go on tour with the band. But I\'m not 19 anymore and unfortunately dropping everything and anything to drive around the country to see music isn\'t my primary concern in life as it once was.
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i am completely with dave/jimbo on this one. leith, you cannot expect that everyone is so available to drop their everyday commitments and go on breakfast tour. come on now...we all have responsibilities to deal with. yes, it would be fun, but we can\'t all do it. it\'s awesome that some of the die hards are able to/have been able to go out west and see the band as well as west coasters coming east. it\'s really a great thing, but it also doesn\'t do as much as we would like to think for the band.
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Blah, Blah, Blah Leithbag. DavePec said it perfectly.
For myself, I have the Disco Biscuits, they bring me to a place that NO OTHER BAND has ever taken me. This includes Phish, The Dead and , yes it is possible, The Breakfast. No one on here may understand or agree, but it is how it is. When they tour around, i try to hit every show I can, because they don\'t play as many during the year. When I am not going on the road for them, i hit as many Breakfast shows as possible. I have seen the Breakfast almost twice as much as the Biscuits, but the tDB runs cost alot of money, but I am not going to stop going on those, sorry pal.
Stop trying to BLAME people and start trying to do positive things to actually help the Breakfast with all this desire you have for the band. You don\'t know **** about other peoples lives, so just worry about yourself.
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seriously, leith, i see what you\'re saying but you have no right to demand that people drop everything for a band they like. like dave said, i would love to hop in a vehicle with bfast heads and run around the country, but i\'m independently wealthy so i can\'t do that. i need to make a living and i happen to have gotten into a career i really love. if i left for a month, i probably wouldn\'t have a job when i got back. it would be great for the band\'s morale to have us on the road at tons of shows, but it really isn\'t doing much for their career in the long run. the answer to their problems is creative marketing, which i have yet to see from these guys and their management.
leith, i like this band. they are really **** good. i love going to see them when i can. but by no means do i feel like it is at all my responsibility to assist them in moving their career foward. that is their job. not mine.
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Leith, next time there is a .info Powerball pool, fork over the five bucks, your extra five might be the winning ticket, and then there will be plenty of people to go on tour ;)
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i think what you meant to say, leith, was that if the breakfast wants to make it, THEY need to tour more. luckily, they are. why does tlg have so many fans? because they spent a good two years on the road playing to small ass crowds (i refuse to incorrectly use the word doozie, dammit!) all over anywhere that would have them. put some money and good connections behind it and voila! dedicated fan base. the breakfast is doing what they should (imho) by getting on the road more often. two cross country tours in one year is a great start. as long as they keep it going and continue to keep the fire in the music, they will continue to grow, and at slowly exponentiating rates, just like any other bands. yes, everyone should get out and see shows everywhere they can, but, like dave said, why would the same 10 or 2 people spending the money make them any bigger? more touring creates a bigger base,which you can then use for promo and word of mouth. 6 folks from CT aren\'t gonna create a buzz in and around boulder just because they\'re there. they need the folks from boulder to show up and drag friends. that being said, i\'ve traveled to every breakfast show i\'ve ever seen, and bring friends. so why aren\'t they bigger already?
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Leith, regardless of how you put it, I see your point. It would be amazing to have some **** breakfast heads out here on the road, but what really needs to happen if this band is going to make it is that people from the cities we play need to know about the show and band. It\'s the local music fans from across this country that will push this band to the next level. If there is a demand for something, the supply shall follow. The Breakfast have their New England fans, and I know that if it wasn\'t for this thing called life, there would be quite a few familiar faces along with us on this tour (or even just parts of it).
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leith, i couldnt disagree with you more..like "Me!" said earlier, the majority of the fans on .info do everything they can do to support the band and I think that is the reason they are still around. And yes, people can not just leave their everyday jobs or responsibilities to catch a breakfast show in a different state. again it would be great if they could, however they cant. I go to school in the city and I see the breakfast every chance I get. I can\'t always just leave school to go see them but when they are playing somewhere else and I am already there, I make it my priority to see them. All of these **** fans have seen well over 200 shows and are doing their part and i genuinely dont think its right or ok for you to come out of nowhere and tell them they are not doing enough. everyone on here knows the bands representation is an issue and everyone (including myself) is doing their part to help the band move along however we can. so try not to come on the this board and be so acusatory of fans who really would do nearly anything for the band
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Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Excuses excuses. If the music is good enough one will travel. Sorry but it\'s true. Nothing you can post can convince me otherwise.
The problem not only lies in Bfast fans being spoiled w/ so many close to home shows but that the band has not really pumped out a real tour schedule and only sporadically plays out of their comfort zone.
The thing is we have had notice of this tour for a loooooong time and if one really wanted to support the band on tour one COULD have and SHOULD have made plans to do so.
Just going to local shows that should be sold out anyway(and never are) does little compared to actually travelling to see them.
I know I did everything I could to travel and see them last year and regret none of the monetary problems I created for myself to do so.
Oh and as far as lives to live pfffft. If you really wanted to go on tour you could. It is a choice. You have chosen not to tour. Cool.
Don\'t **** here when the band plays a doozie, you made your choice.
I am not saying you are all to BLAME for the band not making it but as you said they are in a better place than they have been in awhile so why not help push the momentum instead of just waiting?
So the Bfast\'s sound is a problem ? That is **** ridiculous and you know it. Esp. now as a trio and the band is supposedly so much better now. Pfft nxt excuse.
Dude, I tried to be cool about this, but then you had to come back and act like an 8yr old. Why don\'t you address all of us with the kindness you address the managment in your email. WHy do you feel the need to degrade us?
Don\'t tell me about my life leithbag. I\'m doing my **** and you have no idea what\'s going on in my life or anyone else\'s on this board. You\'re probably right some people could make trek. But alas I cannot. Many here cannot. Hey man I did see them in nearly every state they\'ve played in. But that\'s besides the point.
As someone else said it\'s our job is to be here for the local shows. I use most of my vacation time one to two days at a time to make the farther away local shows, the long weekend runs. So I just don\'t really have any left. Why don\'t you focus on getting heads to shows there and we\'ll do the same here.
Also, TLG is from SanFran, which helps. As I said we\'ll be having some long distance heads here for the Freakout, cause it\'s a home town show and there\'s a certain appeal to that. Why don\'t you fly out here for a TLG show huh? Come on Leith I mean support your favorite band. Let\'s go slacker. You flew out here to see The Breakfast cause it\'s hometown. Why don\'t you fly to Chicago and see them, or TLG. Fly to bummble **** middle america to see them. If you reallly want to support the band. Or do you just want to log on here once a week blame the managment, and when that doesn\'t work tell us it\'s our fault.
Fine, you\'re right the music is not the prob. I\'m just saying it can be easier for the initial laidback fan to get into it, it\'s sounds just like everything else. It\'s familiar.
I don\'t **** on here when there are doozies, I dont\' think alot of people do. I\'m not saying no one does. But we\'re bummed the show wasn\'t packed, but bitching is the wrong word.
I\'m not saying you\'re completely wrong here, and I didn\'t in my first post which is why it angers me you feel the need to be so mean on the rebutle. I think alot of peopl on here don\'t disagree with every thing you say, just the way you say it.
You\'ll catch more flys with honey than with vinegar. People will take you more seriously if you weren\'t such a Leithbag.
That being said, since yes you are a cool cat in person. When are we gonna see you out here again? :D Come on make the trek for the freakout.....
edit:see Dave\'s above post
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i\'m really failing to see the logic here.
leith, all you\'re talking about doing is padding numbers.. let\'s say the breakfast plays in Buttfuck, USA, and draws 9 people to the show. now let\'s be generous and say there\'s 20 **** breakfast fans out on tour. so now there\'s 29 people at the Buttfuck show, but there\'s still only 9 there from Buttfuck. the rest of the people are already established fans.
explain to me again how this makes them bigger?
hey, i\'d love to just drop everything and go on the road with the band for a month. i long for the days when i was able to take entire summers off at a time and go on phish tour. things were a LOT simpler then, and i\'m just not in that place anymore.. and not many people are.. hell, i\'m thankful to be able to see the amount of shows i do get to see.. :shrug:
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i\'ll admit it, i care about my own career more than the breakfasts. thats why i stick around here and pursue it. sue me.
:that:
What is the matter Leith, you get tired of bitching at the mgmt. for holding the band back so now you are going to blame the fans?
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<<<<< ready for a trip to the west coast on the next run. i spent too much money on a recent vacation and used up a bunch of vacation time. but i\'ve been dieing to get out there. and tho i might, to a point agree with you leith, it still isn\'t THAT easy for the majority of us to get out there. i do my best to get out to shows within 400-500 miles from me, and with that happening just about every weekend for the last couple months i\'ve spent a decent amount of money just traveling the east coast.
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<<<<<< started fall t00r thread for this reason back on: 08-11-2006, 08:04 PM
we all knew this was coming, with the lack of touring in the summer and focus on the new album...yah dates weren\'t all filled in from the get go, but were easily speculated on ( ****- I knew the pacNwest would get some shows over another weeklong stay in CO just on a hunch)
you kidzzz give leith so much ****, for nothing.. d00d has a point.. I **** make bagel sandwiches for a living and was able to swing something for this tour.. don\'t buy so many drinks next time you\'re out, or go to as many local shows as you normally would- show hiatuses suck but are worth it in the long run... t00r openers in Harrisburg Pa with two people in font of the stage is pretty disheartening and I would\'ve put my gear down and had a few stiff drinks.. but these guys played and played well- and added a few songs onto the already short setlist.. so anyways, it is okay for Leith to be right about certain things.. take a step back and look at the larger view here... thanks, mgmt.
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If playing to a bunch of confused looking 14 year olds is "making it" --TLG styliez--then I\'m glad the Breakfast has remained in the dark all these years...
This thread is so retarded... of all places to post this?? Do you realize how many people on this board make it to every show they can? How many other bands do you know that have such a dedicated base... very few, I\'ll tell ya.
As for me, I got a JOB and I better not do something stupid like taking a month off if I want to still have that job and be able to afford a 5-SHOW-RUN when they return to the east coast. Sorry if catching almost every show within like 150 miles of my home isn\'t good enough for you.
The Breakfast already has "made it"... maybe not out there, and maybe they still have the occasional doozie.. but this aint no MTV ****. In the real world bands gotta bust ass and gather a following. I\'ve seen the band, at times in the last several years, look like they weren\'t making any progress in terms of a following. But now I see they\'re back on the right track.
Nope I don\'t consider it my obligation to go to the other side of the country to add 1 person to a show count 2000 miles from me.
That\'s YOUR job!!
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leith, i just looked at your profile and noticed you\'re 36 years old...........
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i cant wait to meet you someday. i think.
for now, i think that talking **** sure isn\'t helping anyone. i mean i\'m sure that everyone on the board would love to support the band in potential doozie circumstances, but i\'m gonna have to agree that the only way i could afford to go on tour is to have a well-paying job. one such job would surely be lost if i were to take a month off to spend hundreds of dollars traveling around the country. i just think that although what you\'re saying is true, it is unrealistic to expect everyone to drop everything and go crazy gallavanting and being whippersnappers.
in other words
THAT\'S DICK
-Alexi-ngton
Not everyone needs to jump on tour but there has to be some people on this board that can find the resources to travel. I mean there are over 200 active members on this board and none of them can find the time or $$ to follow a few shows away from home? Come On.
Oh and as most that have met me in person will tell you I am not nearly as much of an ass in person ;)
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That\'s the thing though, Leith. They DON\'T play shows near me! ;)
If I had it my way, I would have gone all the way out West with them. But alas, I\'m working on getting a degree and helping pay my way through college. Buying those plane tickets and spending $ in Chicago this weekend was really was not a responsible thing to do, but I\'ll just have a tighter budget the next month. I won\'t remember the classes I missed or the money I didn\'t have, but I\'ll remember the Freakout for years to come.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!! It may not be the most responsible thing to do but you will have the memories and it only helps when new fans find out that others find the band worthy enough to travel for.
I know when people found out our little crew of "tour rats" were following the band down the coast in March it was something of an eye opener.
My whole point is if the band is really going to make a go of it they need support. You will find on many other boards people are travelling to see their band @ the expense of more responsible decisions.
Why should this fanbase be different ?
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i cant wait to meet you someday. i think.
for now, i think that talking **** sure isn\'t helping anyone. i mean i\'m sure that everyone on the board would love to support the band in potential doozie circumstances, but i\'m gonna have to agree that the only way i could afford to go on tour is to have a well-paying job. one such job would surely be lost if i were to take a month off to spend hundreds of dollars traveling around the country. i just think that although what you\'re saying is true, it is unrealistic to expect everyone to drop everything and go crazy gallavanting and being whippersnappers.
in other words
THAT\'S DICK
-Alexi-ngton
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Fans not content to just catch shows near them...
That\'s the thing though, Leith. They DON\'T play shows near me! ;)
If I had it my way, I would have gone all the way out West with them. But alas, I\'m working on getting a degree and helping pay my way through college. Buying those plane tickets and spending $ in Chicago this weekend was really was not a responsible thing to do, but I\'ll just have a tighter budget the next month. I won\'t remember the classes I missed or the money I didn\'t have, but I\'ll remember the Freakout for years to come.
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i\'ll admit it, i care about my own career more than the breakfasts. thats why i stick around here and pursue it. sue me.
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:leaves board to go drink beer and play pool: :sigh:
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I drove 3 hours to Chicago this weekend. I also just spent $335 on plane tickets for the Freakout. Don\'t blame me! ;)
This band needs more fans like you. Fans not content to just catch shows near them but willing to make the effort to show venues "their" band is worth booking.
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Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Excuses excuses. If the music is good enough one will travel. Sorry but it\'s true. Nothing you can post can convince me otherwise.
The problem not only lies in Bfast fans being spoiled w/ so many close to home shows but that the band has not really pumped out a real tour schedule and only sporadically plays out of their comfort zone.
The thing is we have had notice of this tour for a loooooong time and if one really wanted to support the band on tour one COULD have and SHOULD have made plans to do so.
Just going to local shows that should be sold out anyway(and never are) does little compared to actually travelling to see them.
I know I did everything I could to travel and see them last year and regret none of the monetary problems I created for myself to do so.
Oh and as far as lives to live pfffft. If you really wanted to go on tour you could. It is a choice. You have chosen not to tour. Cool.
Don\'t **** here when the band plays a doozie, you made your choice.
I am not saying you are all to BLAME for the band not making it but as you said they are in a better place than they have been in awhile so why not help push the momentum instead of just waiting?
So the Bfast\'s sound is a problem ? That is **** ridiculous and you know it. Esp. now as a trio and the band is supposedly so much better now. Pfft nxt excuse.
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I drove 3 hours to Chicago this weekend. I also just spent $335 on plane tickets for the Freakout. Don\'t blame me! ;)
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No offence brah, not trying to start an argument here, but **** YOU! If I had the means to hop on a plane and catch the Breakfast on the left coast I would be there in a heart beat. But it just not that simple, some people have lives to live that include things other than going to shows everynight. (Although you wouldn\'t know that when they\'re at home :) ) I do my part, I catch every single show that is plausible for me to catch. With work and school, flying to Cali or wherever to see a band I see anywhere from 3 to 8 times a month regularly is not at the top of my priority list. Am I saying I\'ll never do it? No. But it\'s not always that easy. Most of us don\'t have the means to just whimsically hop on a plane ditch work and any other resposibilities we have for a trip across the country. Honestly as bummed as I am that they\'re gone till the end of Oct, I\'m glad for the break, it was nice to just be at home this weekend.
I completley understand the point your trying to make but, once again, why be so accusatory about it? Like it\'s our fault the band isn\'t making it right now. If anything it\'s thanks to people like us that the band is still kicking around. I remember back in \'01 after their equipment got stolen they were gonna pack it up, but the fans wouldn\'t let them, and we would have never heard such mind blowing nights like 8/20/05.
It also helps when you\'re TLG and you have such major support behind you from the industry. I\'m not saying they\'re Phish or (insert band name here) or anything, but they have a much more straight forward haight ashbury rock sound that\'s, well, a little easier on the ears for some than the Breakfast.
Again, not trying to start **** here, I\'m glad they have such a great following, it must make for a great show enviroment. But hey, you\'ve flown out here numerous times, and it looks like we\'re gonna have some long distance heads for the freakout.
I think the band is doing the best it has since the Duece days. We seem to be on an upward arch. No need to be bashing progress, no matter how slow it may be happening.
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no offense man, but I am pretty sure TLG is from San Fransico. So even though you talked to all these people who "flew" in from other states, the fact they are in San Fran doesnt hurt.
Anyways I am done for surprising the band on a few of these dates. Anyone have any suggestions?
Yeah how many people are just going to fly to SF w/o something to do? Believe me the 2 shows were THE reason these people flew out. They flew out to rage in 2 of the best music venues in S.F. w/ their favorite band.
It\'s called walking the walk and not just the talk. Something only a couple fans here are willing to do for The Breakfast.
As for a tour suggestion I think ChrisF is coming out as well as Buquebus. PM them and jump on board!!!
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no offense man, but I am pretty sure TLG is from San Fransico. So even though you talked to all these people who "flew" in from other states, the fact they are in San Fran doesnt hurt.
Anyways I am down for surprising the band on a few of these dates. Anyone have any suggestions?
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you all need to get off your asses and TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop being such pantywaists and go support your supposed favorite band.
Why wait around for the Freakout when the band is playing shows all month?
Yeah blast me I could care less.
I just got back from 2 near sellout TLG shows @ major SF venues and talked to over 30 people that had flown in from about 17 different states for these 2 shows.
THAT IS DEDICATION THAT WILL CATAPULT A BAND TO THE TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You guys that just **** about why the band is playing doozies and are not out there supporting them have not a leg to stand on.
Why is UM and TLG making it and The Breakfast are treading water?
Fans that actually travel for the band.
You all have the power. What is the best possible promotion for a band?
A FULL HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!
Pick a weekend this month and surprise the band.
I dare you!