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General Discussions => Tribal Funk Affliction => Topic started by: origen on July 11, 2006, 05:40:37 pm
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Beau Sasser from the now defunct UNCLE SAMMY!!!!
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My second choice is "Explosive" Joseph Wooten. Yes, that\'s one of Victor\'s brothers. Who has seen the Victor Wooten tours with his 2 brothers? Explosive Joseph is every bit the keys player that Vic is a bass player, and Joseph can really, really sing too. He\'s got mad soul but also has a rock edge in his voice that would translate well to songs like Drunk Monk Bar and Doors covers. He would bring a huge new element of soul to the band along with some bangin keys. I don\'t think he has any regular gig.
Yeah that\'s not gonna happen. Friday, I mentioned to him jokingly that a jamband out East could use his skills and he smiled kindly,looking over @ the rest of the Steve Miller Band during soundcheck.
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I was and will always be a fan of jordans music.
His ability to be in sync with tim\'s progressive style is amazing.
Many a mind blown...
with that said..
I can jam out on blues scales all day long on keys...heh
hope they find some talent for sure...
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a synth playing dj makes me cringe. fwiw....
Shudder at the thought. I really would be depressewd if they got a keyboard player with a "ame". Although it might catapult the band in "the scene", in the eyes of everyone who\'s never heard of The Breakfast, it would be "Let\'s go check out \'The Name\'...and those other guys". Keys weren\'t and should not be "the focus" of this band. I\'d like to see the trio progress for a bit and not rush into finding a replacement.
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and for the record it\'s the BERKLEE school of music
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no. not really. i was just being nice. i wish they would find a suitable replacement on keys, if you could call it a that
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You don\'t really agree with me, do you? I hope not.
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3. Lead Singer (vox only) - The music is ready, the band is really just one rock star away from sold-out $80-$200 tickets every show.
I mean c\'mon...everyone does keyboards. Let\'s get creative here people! :)
i agree with most of your points and I hope their tix do get up that high and I am not saying I wouldn\'t pay to see them at those prices, it\'s just I kind of like seeing them for $15-20 although I\'m sure they aren\'t making as much as they should or wish they were. just my $.02 add that to the collection.
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They should eliminate keys altogether and fill the void with one of the following instruments:
1. Turntables - Ru-r-ru-r-ru-rufus breaks my balls y\'all!
2. Cello - Would sound great on Fairy, Vera Street, and Wild Pack of Asscracks
3. Lead Singer (vox only) - The music is ready, the band is really just one rock star away from sold-out $80-$200 tickets every show.
4. Mandolin - It\'s all about Bouree
5. 2nd bass player - Imagine...in mid-jam Ron and bass player #2 walk to the front center of the stage... One lays down a sick line, the other starts slap-soloing furiously... Then they switch... Then they both go off... The crowd goes bananas... yes, the possibilites are endless.
6. Trombone - Jed Kordell\'s trombone stint on Sgt. Pepper\'s is the most underrated guest appearance in band history.
7. Hammer Dulcimer - Speaking of underrated, why not become the only band to feature the world\'s most underrated instrument? Wouldn\'t you have to see "that band with the hammer dulcimer guy?"
8. Choir - Imagine the soaring, epic gospel vocal climaxes in What The Funk, Drunk Monk Bar, and Tricky Ways. Sure it\'ll be tough for 40 people to split 1 band member\'s pay a night, but the promise of the instant international stardom of being The Breakfast\'s choir should offset that.
I mean c\'mon...everyone does keyboards. Let\'s get creative here people! :)
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I had a friend who went to Berkley and he stated, and I have heard this from numerous people who attended Berkley, if you graduate from Berkley you are doing something wrong. There is lots of talent around Berkley but many feel they are "musicians" and some get turned off by the jamband scene because they feel it is too generic. I wouldn\'t be surprised if there is a gem sitting around Boston at Berkley waiting to get out of there.
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Vic said they had sent the word out at berkley. I think that\'s probably your best bet for now:
young unknown kid
wants to play
knows his **** if he\'s at berkley
And he\'ll have to know his **** to play in the band. Don\'t forget, the band has developed as a four piece over the years to become a tight unit of technically excellent musicians. A new player of a decent standard might well have fitted in a few years ago, but the music is way too advanced now for some developing raw talent, it needs to be someone who can match our boys\' ability.
Vic has the right idea about places like Berkeley. Realistically, I don\'t think they have much chance of easily finding some unknown talent who isn\'t already ripping it up with a band. It needs to be someone technically proficient already because they are not going to have that time to develop.
At the moment, we are all thinking about what will happen to the jams and where are we going to get a singer like Jordan? which puts a lot of pressure on the new guy. I hope to see the fanbase accept his voice/ideas/style. Many thought Pigpen could not be replaced, but look at the grief when Brent and Vince died - their styles were different, but they were definitely true members of the band, not just replacements.
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I like Leith\'s idea. I\'d like fresh blood, another cherry for the popping if you will.
However,
Tomatotron makes me cringe.
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school.of.rock.
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if he\'s a friend of leiths, no way!
j/k ;)
in the mean time:
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I hope they go with an unknown player I know they have recieved interest from a guy out here who shreds, sings, writes and is already a big Bfast fan Oh and ready to move 2 CT
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a synth playing dj makes me cringe. fwiw....
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Vic said they had sent the word out at berkley. I think that\'s probably your best bet for now:
young unknown kid
wants to play
knows his **** if he\'s at berkley
also, any new member should not try to be jordan! Did Keith try to be pigpen? No, he came in with his own style and the band changed as a result. Some songs may get changed, others may be dropped if they just don\'t work, but the new member should bring his own sound. If he is going to learn the parts for the older songs the way jordan played them fine, but new material should reflect his (hers?) style of singing and playing.
Don\'t be suprized if this takes a while either, the band has to find someone that they can put up living with on the road, write with AND play with. That\'s alot to go through. In the mean time, TOMATOTRON!
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i say give the trio a chance....
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I dont understand the idea behind moldable.
If the person is worth a damn they aren\'t gonna just roll over and be TOLD what to play and how to play it.
Why not bring in someone who will contribute to all aspects of the band. writing singing and playing and perhaps has some what of a following already to help the band overall.
I really don\'t like the idea of someone just playing like Jordan or trying. They should be confident to have their own sound.
i agree but some people are not willing to play certain styles and are stuck in there ways. the guys kind of have a style and know where they kind of wanna go, so the next person that steps in... if anyone steps in, has to bring something new to the table agreed but they also have to be able/ be willing to produce the sound that is desired on certain songs. i just see everyone yelling out these names and i feel there is an untapped region of musicians out there that is being overlooked maybe that\'s not the right word. there are how many music schools in the region around here..... does no one know where they are or have the desire to post something up looking for a nasty keyboardist..... i know, not our job, it was more of an open ended question.
How about a synth operating DJ now that would be pretty interesting
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absolutely, but a "new" player doesn\'t have to try and sound like Jordan, I think it\'s gona be hard to get someone who plays in another band to be able to adhere to the scheduling and pay of The Breakfast, these guys aren\'t gonna wanna not do a gig cause the keyboardist has another gig with someone else, this band should be first priority, and also someone in this area is key, it\'s not gonna do them any good to get someone who lives on the left coast
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I dont understand the idea behind moldable.
If the person is worth a damn they aren\'t gonna just roll over and be TOLD what to play and how to play it.
Why not bring in someone who will contribute to all aspects of the band. writing singing and playing and perhaps has some what of a following already to help the band overall.
I really don\'t like the idea of someone just playing like Jordan or trying. They should be confident to have their own sound.
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new young blood!!!!!
there is so much undiscovered raw talent out there, no offense to any of those other guys I\'m sure they are all great buuuutttttt, we need a traveling, cheap, moldable keyboard prodigy that is like minded with the band and the fans.
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Paul Wolstencroft - Moonboot Lover
actually, he played as part of Peter Prince and the Trauma Unit. prior to that was Jiggle (the Handle). get it right :biggrin:
speaking of peter prince, how bout Melvin Sparks? tom baggot (moon boot lover, ryan montbleau band, etc.) books him. plus melvin lives near me, so maybe that would mean more breakfast shows in westchester/nyc :batban:
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Rob Barraco
That would def. increase attendance. He has a lot of his own music and I think he needs a more non-dead related job. Like when he played keys with New Earth Mud.
(yes I know its probably not gonna happen)
Neal Evans - Soulive
Paul Wolstencroft - Moonboot Lover
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Just give Save one key he can methodically tap with one finger....
Problem lies in that, for the foreseeable near future, any new player would have to accept the going wage....
:that: and ****.....
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they could get Kirk Juhas of freebeerandchicken and Al & the Transamericans. He\'s toured w/ moe. before and grinds a mean organ. can sing too.
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I say we all pitch in and come up with a a proffessors salary and higher JWALL to do it
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i say find a 18-19 year old prodigy and tell him to play what we want.... problem solved.
Keys are tough, everyone wants to be the LEAD guitarist or the bad ass drummer. the bass and the keys are some of the most under appreciated aspects of music. find a kid who knows the keys... give him the equipment he needs to play what you want to hear and mold him/her. **** if i knew anything about playing the keys I\'d be all over it. but unfortunately i laughed at idea of piano lessons :kicks self:
Not a bad idea - the key thing is being able to control the new member\'s ego, and it would help to have a young player who was exited to be a part of the breakfast.
And going back to Seth Yac, granted his lyrics would not fit with the Breakfast, but he has the perfect voice for stuff like Drunk Monk and Puppetry. If he could be convinced to conform to the program, he would be able to do Jordan\'s vocal parts. And Jordan being the best singer, that\'s the critical thing you have to replace.
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i say find a 18-19 year old prodigy and tell him to play what we want.... problem solved.
Keys are tough, everyone wants to be the LEAD guitarist or the bad ass drummer. the bass and the keys are some of the most under appreciated aspects of music. find a kid who knows the keys... give him the equipment he needs to play what you want to hear and mold him/her. **** if i knew anything about playing the keys I\'d be all over it. but unfortunately i laughed at idea of piano lessons :kicks self:
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Problem lies in that, for the foreseeable near future, any new player would have to accept the going wage....
yah- like any of the wootens or any other respectable musicians listed above are really gonna like playing for nickels and dime$$$...
::goes back to reading Communist Manifesto, and punches wall::
::ouch::
"all good things, in all good time..."
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Problem lies in that, for the foreseeable near future, any new player would have to accept the going wage....
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Skip the keys and bring on Seanie Miller on mandolin. They could bring back Bouree off the shelf and it would sound better than ever. They could also cover some Mori Stylz tunes.
But seriously, the first call has to go to Page. Why not? You can\'t reach the stars if you don\'t shoot for them. People would show up for Page and leave saying "Holy cow, that Tim kid is better than Trey!!" I\'m not trying to compare Tim and Trey, please don\'t even start that in this thread, I\'m just pointing out that you know some people would leave shows saying that if they came to see Page.
My second choice is "Explosive" Joseph Wooten. Yes, that\'s one of Victor\'s brothers. Who has seen the Victor Wooten tours with his 2 brothers? Explosive Joseph is every bit the keys player that Vic is a bass player, and Joseph can really, really sing too. He\'s got mad soul but also has a rock edge in his voice that would translate well to songs like Drunk Monk Bar and Doors covers. He would bring a huge new element of soul to the band along with some bangin keys. I don\'t think he has any regular gig.
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i say give the trio a chance....
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Todd Stoops
In the words of one of the greatest people on earth....
"NOT GONNA HAAAAAAAAAAAPEN"
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Todd Stoops
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I nominate Genc\'s father. Keyboard genius. Search = done!
Isnt there a canadian moose you should be banging right now?
I can do 2 things at once.
:deadhorse
moosefucker
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I nominate Genc\'s father. Keyboard genius. Search = done!
Isnt there a canadian moose you should be banging right now?
I can do 2 things at once.
:deadhorse
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I nominate Genc\'s father. Keyboard genius. Search = done!
Isnt there a canadian moose you should be banging right now?
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I nominate Genc\'s father. Keyboard genius. Search = done!
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Personally, I believe that IF (and i mean IF) there is another Breakfast keyboardist out there he will come out of complete obscurity to blow minds and lead this band to the level they deserve to be at.....
just like Allen Acouin did for tDB.
^^^igzy hijack
:that:
Supposedly Acouin came into the audition knowing many of the songs and he had developed his own "style/interpretation" of each song, he was a fan first.
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Personally, I believe that IF (and i mean IF) there is another Breakfast keyboardist out there he will come out of complete obscurity to blow minds and lead this band to the level they deserve to be at.....
just like Allen Acouin did for tDB.
^^^igzy hijack
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How about Seanaldo - the Amazing Mandolinist? :shrug: he knows the Breakfast tunes & can harmonize well w/ the group...
How would Seth Adam feel about this?
Not to mention that Seanaldo is NOT a keyboardist*....
*- I am pretty sure that the jedi can tickle the ivory to whatever extent, but he has never claimed to be "a keyboardist"
I understand Page and Fishman have a project in the works. I also understand their project will be at moe.down this year....
Personally, I believe that IF (and i mean IF) there is another Breakfast keyboardist out there he will come out of complete obscurity to blow minds and lead this band to the level they deserve to be at.....
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How about Seanaldo - the Amazing Mandolinist? :shrug: he knows the Breakfast tunes & can harmonize well w/ the group...
How would Seth Adam feel about this?
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How about Seanaldo - the Amazing Mandolinist? :shrug: he knows the Breakfast tunes & can harmonize well w/ the group...
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I think page is between project these days... ;)
Hehe, I was thinking the same thing.
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brings a whole new meaning to turning the paige
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tell Page we\'ll pay him in MDMA or Ecstasy, his choice, he\'ll play for us.
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I think page is between project these days... ;)
Hey it\'s possible. If Mike Gordon can join the Duo Page can join the Breakfast. Just convince him that the Breakfast is a perfect fit - an underappreciated band that deserves more play, and could potentially blow up if a player of Page\'s caliber were to join. Instant press, instant PR, instant name recognition. Nobody knew who the duo was until Gordon joined and now they are going to be huge. The same thing could happen to the Breakfast.
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I like the brainstorming committee here. Why not target particular individuals in addition to the ongoing search?
Is there a professional staffing firm(s) in the music business, like every other industry?
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I think page is between project these days... ;)
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I realize the shock of Jordan\'s departure hasn\'t worn off yet, and there\'s no way to ever truly replace him... but just for the hell of it we might as well speculate as to where to find the next keyboardist.
How about Robert Walter? He\'s basically in side project limbo, playing with Steve Kimock Band etc. The Breakfast would def. let him do more soloing than Kimock.
Or Brian Felix formerly of OM trio - awesome keyboardist. Now that the drummer for OM trio has joined Brothers Past, Felix is out of a job (except for sit-ins with San Fran\'s Mushroom).
It\'s also possible for a guitarist to step in. Seth Yac was mentioned but I think his lyrical agenda would clash with what the Breakfast is trying to do. As a pure guitarist he would be awesome but you know he would insist on doing his rambling blues-out lyrics.
Or bring in one of the guitarists from Ominous Seapods. That would create instant buzz in the NY scene.