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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: leith on April 06, 2006, 05:50:49 pm
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I think i remember when new beginning first came out that eventually it was intended to be played after scheme. as in The Grand Scheme of Things > New Beginning.
I have no idea what the last song of the saga is. The saga doesn\'t even make any sense to me. I never got that into the new star wars movies and i still don\'t know the words to buquebus
Classic!
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Well Tim expects his goddamn fans to know this **** so we gotta figure it out!
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I think i remember when new beginning first came out that eventually it was intended to be played after scheme. as in The Grand Scheme of Things > New Beginning.
I have no idea what the last song of the saga is. The saga doesn\'t even make any sense to me. I never got that into the new star wars movies and i still don\'t know the words to buquebus
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So most of Moxie includes the saga then
(Psygn, Surreal, LATG>OE)
Tim mentions [in the living room vid] that the ending to the saga is currently a breakfast tune... what could it be?
Either OE or a new beginning is my guess
I\'m putting my money on TGSOT as the closer. The title and outro is fitting to complete a grand saga.
True.... I thought he said it had lyrics though? then again, maybe not
What had lyrics? The end or Scheme or... what exactly do you mean?
When he gets interviewed at the end of the living room video, he mentions the final song is already in Breakfast rotation... I may have just made it up in my mind that the final song has lyrics, but it would actually make perfect sense if it was an instrumental... especially scheme
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TGSOT > a new beginning
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So most of Moxie includes the saga then
(Psygn, Surreal, LATG>OE)
Tim mentions [in the living room vid] that the ending to the saga is currently a breakfast tune... what could it be?
Either OE or a new beginning is my guess
I\'m putting my money on TGSOT as the closer. The title and outro is fitting to complete a grand saga.
True.... I thought he said it had lyrics though? then again, maybe not
What had lyrics? The end or Scheme or... what exactly do you mean?
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So most of Moxie includes the saga then
(Psygn, Surreal, LATG>OE)
Tim mentions [in the living room vid] that the ending to the saga is currently a breakfast tune... what could it be?
Either OE or a new beginning is my guess
I\'m putting my money on TGSOT as the closer. The title and outro is fitting to complete a grand saga.
True.... I thought he said it had lyrics though? then again, maybe not
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So most of Moxie includes the saga then
(Psygn, Surreal, LATG>OE)
Tim mentions [in the living room vid] that the ending to the saga is currently a breakfast tune... what could it be?
Either OE or a new beginning is my guess
I\'m putting my money on TGSOT as the closer. The title and outro is fitting to complete a grand saga.
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So most of Moxie includes the saga then
(Psygn, Surreal, LATG>OE)
Tim mentions [in the living room vid] that the ending to the saga is currently a breakfast tune... what could it be?
Either OE or a new beginning is my guess
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Historically Queeb.
Realistic-futuristically Gamehendge.
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What\'s more rare, a full Queb sage or Gamehendge?
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they should do it an untaped dooze of an upstate show. that would be proper.
Fonghoulish Freakout X - October 30, 2008: 10th Anniversary of (Psychedelic) Breakfast
You might be on to something here.
I\'d have to make it two years in a row if this rumor holds water like Lawn Boy.
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they should do it an untaped dooze of an upstate show. that would be proper.
Fonghoulish Freakout X - October 30, 2008: 10th Anniversary of (Psychedelic) Breakfast
You might be on to something here.
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they should do it an untaped dooze of an upstate show. that would be proper.
Fonghoulish Freakout X - October 30, 2008: 10th Anniversary of (Psychedelic) Breakfast
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sall about the westcott na kad
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hahahahafuck that
too bad stone church is dunzo. that would be perfect
upstate would be cool, maybe utica. def not mezzanote, too awkward of a room
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they should do it an untaped dooze of an upstate show. that would be proper.
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i heard it should be going down soon
this year, i believe
but who knows if i should trust brimley or brosef?
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crack that whip
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pretty sure tims got a good amount of tunes to write before its finished
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so when are we gonna get the full live saga start to finish show???
someone better let me know in advance so I can drive to where ever the hell its gonna be.....
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alright, we\'re def getting a new eppy before 2008
space city affair. heady.
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excellent. surprised to see Psygn in there. very cool.
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With the introduction of some narrative @ FFVII (see below) the saga seems to be growing.
Tim is letting more and more out YEA!!
There are some songs that are def. a part of the Saga and some that seem as if they may be linked somehow.
So I felt a discussion should be started.
Narrative introduced @ FFVII
Episode I
Happy
Space City is happy. Buquebus and Gladys Pimp have freed the planet from
King Folix\'s oppression. By putting Black Domino in the Breakfast processor,
they opened everyone\'s mind to think and act for themselves.
The people rapidly overthrow the Royal Extremists and discover the king has
killed himself in fear of upheaval. But Mooboo escapes, maintains her
anonymity, and takes the remaining Royal Extremists to the badlands of
Abrasia.
Meanwhile, Space City celebrates the revival of freedom, art, and love.
Episode II
Mooboo\'s Voodoo
Buquebus and Gladys have settled into their life in Honalee, though his itch
persists. Gladys knows Buquebus must fulfill his destiny and lets him go.
Buquebus travels for two years and stumbles upon Abrasia, oblivious to
Mooboo\'s Grand Scheme for revenge on Space City. With her desirable beauty
and evil mojo, Mooboo sets the trap and seduces Buquebus.
Sadly, the Voodoo consumes his energy and Buquebus becomes Mooboo\'s
slave. His weak spirit cries for help, but solace is found in her lust.
Episode III
Awakening
Buquebus is in constant inner struggle. His glow has been suppressed from
satisfying Mooboo\'s sexual thirst over the past year. His life force alerts him
to break free now or be destroyed.
Buquebus plans his escape. He must slip away unnoticed from Mooboo and the
Royal Extremists, leave Abrasia, and regain his individuality. Mooboo senses
his emancipation and prepares her coup de grace.
Buquebus wakes in the middle of the night to finish the battle between his
soul and the intoxicating Voodoo.
Songs confirmed to be in the Saga
Episodes 1-3
Buquebus
Gladys
Son of Simpleton
Late and the Great
Grand Scheme of Things
A New Beginning
Overexposure
Surreal Radio
Psygn
SCA
WUIAC
The Chase is not part of the Saga. TFA currently is not but may find it\'s way in. This revision comes with information from Tim.
Fans of this story we do have more to look forward to.
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Episode 4 and 5 do exist and supposedly in pretty complete but not complete form. I have only heard from a friend of a friend about said epsiodes.
now that\'s juicy.
so is puppetry a confirmed acid flashback song, or has it finallygottento point where my posts are simply ignored? realdick
but for ser, i thought new beginning was a giavanna tribute song? or just a coincidental debut date?
beef barley is def inthe saga
puppetry=played at FFO 7
so was doughboy, beef barley, good things, superfly, spunk, HLH.....
the whole purpose of this ^^ post was to say that just because a tune was played in FF7 does not mean it\'s in the saga, and puppetry doesn\'t seem to fit at all to me.
G.P must of O.D.’d on the Black Domino in Honalee
Running away from reality
Simply put trying to suppress the spirit in thee
Plants are tools to utilize and maximize
Too much a crutch human growth is now paralyzed
People need to exercise the soul with sober eyes
Gladys Pimp and Kangaroos with me
Made an excellent team
And now that they have past I need to
Figure out a scheme
How to rescue
My son, the chosen one, the clue
Black domino, the goo
So powerful in truth
So... I guess Gladys Pimp (and her Kangaroos) were killed by Black Domino. And is that a "drugs are bad, mmmkay" reference in the spoken part of Over Exposure (plants are tool... to much a crutch)? And would this be sung by Buquebus, or is Buquebus the "son, the chosen one"? Otherwise I guess Queeb is Simpleton, and the son is Ekkatin.
What we need is for Black Domino to show up more directly than in "Over Exposure".
... God, I love this ****. It makes me feel even more so that this band knows what they\'re doing.
Narrative introduced @ FFVII
Episode I
Happy
Space City is happy. Buquebus and Gladys Pimp have freed the planet from
King Folix\'s oppression. By putting Black Domino in the Breakfast processor,
they opened everyone\'s mind to think and act for themselves.
The people rapidly overthrow the Royal Extremists and discover the king has
killed himself in fear of upheaval. But Mooboo escapes, maintains her
anonymity, and takes the remaining Royal Extremists to the badlands of
Abrasia.
Meanwhile, Space City celebrates the revival of freedom, art, and love.
I\'ve always thought that Black Domino is the "drug" of enlightenment and Gladys \'over-exposed\' herself to it, causing self-destruction and death. I don\'t know, I would definitely like more specific **** on this matter.
Good stuff though, I\'m glad this thread has been rehatched. My my my they are patient with this.
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Episode 4 and 5 do exist and supposedly in pretty complete but not complete form. I have only heard from a friend of a friend about said epsiodes.
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i remember grellis saying how eppy 4 was teased at a recent show, and poophead mentioned that he\'s heard pieces of 4 and 5.
this story does have a little star wars flavor to it
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G.P must of O.D.?d on the Black Domino in Honalee
Running away from reality
Simply put trying to suppress the spirit in thee
Plants are tools to utilize and maximize
Too much a crutch human growth is now paralyzed
People need to exercise the soul with sober eyes
Gladys Pimp and Kangaroos with me
Made an excellent team
And now that they have past I need to
Figure out a scheme
How to rescue
My son, the chosen one, the clue
Black domino, the goo
So powerful in truth
So... I guess Gladys Pimp (and her Kangaroos) were killed by Black Domino. And is that a "drugs are bad, mmmkay" reference in the spoken part of Over Exposure (plants are tool... to much a crutch)? And would this be sung by Buquebus, or is Buquebus the "son, the chosen one"? Otherwise I guess Queeb is Simpleton, and the son is Ekkatin.
What we need is for Black Domino to show up more directly than in "Over Exposure".
... God, I love this ****. It makes me feel even more so that this band knows what they\'re doing.
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ahhh this is all so confusing...we need to organize a pow-wow while on peyote and figure this **** out
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good discussion, folks. nice bump.
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::gavin nose rub tweekout::
god i cant wait for sullys. we are def getting an eppy 3 soon
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so is puppetry a confirmed acid flashback song, or has it finallygottento point where my posts are simply ignored? realdick
but for ser, i thought new beginning was a giavanna tribute song? or just a coincidental debut date?
beef barley is def inthe saga
Well we try and ignore you but you\'re great at being a pest.
As for A New Beginning Gencs confirmed the song is part of the Saga as the 2nd to last or last song in the New Beginning thread(See how the search engine helps?) but Gia\'s Death may have pushed Tim to finish it up.
No BB is not in the saga, we all know that. Now stop come on.;)
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so is puppetry a confirmed acid flashback song, or has it finallygottento point where my posts are simply ignored? realdick
but for ser, i thought new beginning was a giavanna tribute song? or just a coincidental debut date?
beef barley is def inthe saga
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puppetry=played at FFO 7
so was doughboy, beef barley, good things, superfly, spunk, HLH.....
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With the introduction of some narrative @ FFVII (see below) the saga seems to be growing.
Tim is letting more and more out YEA!!
There are some songs that are def. a part of the Saga and some that seem as if they may be linked somehow.
So I felt a discussion should be started.
Narrative introduced @ FFVII
Episode I
Happy
Space City is happy. Buquebus and Gladys Pimp have freed the planet from
King Folix\'s oppression. By putting Black Domino in the Breakfast processor,
they opened everyone\'s mind to think and act for themselves.
The people rapidly overthrow the Royal Extremists and discover the king has
killed himself in fear of upheaval. But Mooboo escapes, maintains her
anonymity, and takes the remaining Royal Extremists to the badlands of
Abrasia.
Meanwhile, Space City celebrates the revival of freedom, art, and love.
Episode II
Mooboo\'s Voodoo
Buquebus and Gladys have settled into their life in Honalee, though his itch
persists. Gladys knows Buquebus must fulfill his destiny and lets him go.
Buquebus travels for two years and stumbles upon Abrasia, oblivious to
Mooboo\'s Grand Scheme for revenge on Space City. With her desirable beauty
and evil mojo, Mooboo sets the trap and seduces Buquebus.
Sadly, the Voodoo consumes his energy and Buquebus becomes Mooboo\'s
slave. His weak spirit cries for help, but solace is found in her lust.
Episode III
Awakening
Buquebus is in constant inner struggle. His glow has been suppressed from
satisfying Mooboo\'s sexual thirst over the past year. His life force alerts him
to break free now or be destroyed.
Buquebus plans his escape. He must slip away unnoticed from Mooboo and the
Royal Extremists, leave Abrasia, and regain his individuality. Mooboo senses
his emancipation and prepares her coup de grace.
Buquebus wakes in the middle of the night to finish the battle between his
soul and the intoxicating Voodoo.
Songs confirmed to be in the Saga
Episodes 1-3
Buquebus
Gladys
Son of Simpleton
Late and the Great
Grand Scheme of Things
A New Beginning
Songs that mention parts of the Saga thus are most likely in also
Overexposure(Gladys mention)
Surreal Radio(Space City is mine....)
Songs that may be a part of the Saga due to either lyrics or feeling.
Psygn( May be Buquebus singing the lyrics?)
The Chase(May be Buquebus singing?)
TFA(Is Buquebus the one wondering if he\'s on the otherside?)
SCA(Interlude of some type?)
WUIAC(Interlude)
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Late and the Great.. i think may also pertain to or have something to do with Heather\'s (Tims sister) boyfriend at the time, Matt (who Deuce is dedicated to) passing... Tim could clarify that though.
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"At two he scribble blubtonian"
Don\'t forget about Son of Simpleton.
Dude the song is included in the first damn post. sheesh
we\'re dealing with an old thread here.
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"At two he scribble blubtonian"
Don\'t forget about Son of Simpleton.
Dude the song is included in the first damn post. sheesh
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not positive but I\'m pretty sure neither STL or Tribal are part of the saga.
ive never thought so either. if i wasnt clear i wanted to stress that Tribal and STL are connected to each other but could very well be, and most likely are, independent from the saga. basically two songs together that equal a short story. buut i could see it go either way at the same time. so whatever.
dont\' need to......... He told me the whole story on etime in the van during a national tour and Lat and the Great is DEF part of it, but I\'ll ask him tonight anyway....
SON OF SIMPLETON
Hey have you heard of a Simpleton?
Have you heard of him, name is Simpleton, oohooh
He had a son his name Ekkatin
Son of Simpleton, named him Ekkatin, oohooh
He was an eccentric little kid
Eccentric that he was, quite a different touch, oohooh
Blubta was one of his favorite toys
Blubta that he did, did it as a kid, oohooh
At two he scribble blubtonian
Scribbled it right, down on the ground, oohooh
Magical with painting and he painted wind
Painted wind and sound, sun and all the clouds, oohooh
It\'s so nice
To see a little kid, creative as he is
He\'s a son
Son of Simpleton, Son of Simpleton
When he grew up, he jumped out of his painting
I beleive Ekkatin is Buquebus\' son. Possibly w/ Mooboo
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"At two he scribble blubtonian"
Don\'t forget about Son of Simpleton.
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puppetry=played at FFO 7
by the way, eppy 4 and 5 anyone? or should i just go to the rumors thread with this? Goo!
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not positive but I\'m pretty sure neither STL or Tribal are part of the saga.
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If STL is part then I feel like Tribal has to be... To me it seems like Tribal leads into STL like black-and-white Kansas leads into colorful-Oz:
TFA --
(earlier verse states)
He wandered from his
home so long ago
Drained from the day that he can\'t let go
Leaving his wife and life behind
Tattooed hands that will surely die........
He falls to his knees in the burning sand
Cradles his head in his blackened hands
Never was a dream life would
come to this
It was only just a passionate twist
Softly he sighs
He crawls through his eyes
A two second dream
On the brink of eternity
Fantasy crawls close behind
Nightmare isn\'t far behind
Wondering what, where and why
Am I on the otherside.......
>STL --
Look into the light and see
I dig it and I dig you and
I dig everything all around me
I\'m the eternal cosmic being,
flowing in an endless rainbow,
spreading peace and harmony
....yad,yada,yada.....
you catch my drift. Either Tribal is some background to how it all started and then See The Light is the transition into the next stage of his (Buquebus\') life, orrr there is no connection to the whole saga. But I definitely think these two tunes are very much connected lyrically and musically. It is very Wizard Of Oz/kind of Star Wars.
anyone agree?
I\'m actually all about this kind of ****. I love it. I could care less if it is or is not directly influenced by Gamehendge or countless other \'sagas\' or \'operas\' (just in response to the much, much earlier posts in this thread). To me it makes it that much more fun and interesting and keeps the band\'s Pen working in different more creative ways.
Tell the story Tim, I\'ll be sitting here indian-style with a carton of milk.
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Tribal funk affliction has to be a part of the saga
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so i guess the real question is... is blubadan the space city? or maybe its a planet on which space city is chillin?
just figured i\'d revive this for da n00bs (aka taint licker)
realdick
also, puppetry and STL in the saga? can i get a confirmation/speculation? i guess pretty much any tune could be a part... i just feel like puppetry could be Queeb singing under Mooboos spell, and STL could be... i dunno, i guess eppy 3 is the Awakening, but STL could be at similar part in the story.
or both STL and puppetry could be about drugs (my initial interpretation)
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it is
Buquebus
In old Blubladan
A young smart monsquan
Was born with an itch
Diagnosed wanton
An itch that no one seen
Not this bad is what I mean
This uncontrollable urge
To make some elements merge
Not like fire and water
Coincidentally pure
Bringing back the feeling
Against the royal extreme
Buquebus you can\'t do what you want
A man we call leader told you not
To have fun or act this way
Don\'t disobey
It\'s not okay
So says the king himself
You have to stop shooting off your guns
Buquebus you\'re having too much fun
Our doctors are gonna kill your itch
You son of a ****
You make me sick
Now get the hell out of my face
Buquebus (x6)
Buquebus left the king\'s face
Brought to a doctor\'s place
Where then he felt so aghast
As they abash and attempt
To remove his itch and his rash
And they fail
Because it lies with his face
For he is chosen to be
The most radical spirit to save
Blubladan
He escapes from the hiss
Ready to spread his bliss
In any way shape or form
Not wanting to conform
First step the ultimate kiss
That\'s what created the itch
It starts with a person
A special loving person
Or persons for that matter
You see what I\'m getting at
For now a subsitute
In his little breakfast food
An advertisement is what he needs
To spread the itch and break the king
Buquebus composes a little jingle
It hits the charts as a number one single
Eat your breakfast \'cross the nation
Psychedelic fun sensations
With your woman\'s one way to feel them
Natural way is meditation
Eat your breakfast \'cross the nation
Pancakes and bacon
Psychedelic fun sensations
Elated nation
With your woman\'s one way to feel them
Good vibrations
Natural way is meditation
Levitation
Blubladan is eating them right now
Can\'t do anything but shout about
We\'re gonna shout about
Hey, hey, hey, hey
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mee tooo
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isnt blubadan part of the story?
I\'m not entirely sure, but i always thought that was the place that Buquebus was from :?:
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isnt blubadan part of the story?
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^Truth
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I think having an on going saga or story adds a whole other dimension to the band and their body of work. Not only are people eagerly awaiting new breakfast songs and albums, but some are waiting for the next part of "the saga." And as far as it being a copy of someone else\'s idea...Tim was not the first human on the planet, thus people before him have done the same thing. The guy breathes and eats too. I hear Trey does that. Copy cat.
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howth dareth thee, speakth negatory bout thee Buquebus!
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Overexposure = definite...
which, ultimately, may lead to our hero Buquebus\'s death by OD\'ing :?:
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Wait, now that I think of it, Grand Scheme is part of the Buquebus saga, but only in the matinee performance. It\'s replaced in the night show by the theme from Cats. Well, I\'m glad that\'s settled.
rotfl
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I can absolutely confirm that Late and the Great is a part of the Buquebus saga.
As far as Grand Scheme goes...well, I remember in the week prior to FFVII when Tim and I sat down for two gruelingly inane writing/editing sessions for the saga\'s cliff notes which scrolled prior to each set, that we thought it would be funny to add the word "grand" to the following sentence: Buquebus travels for two years and stumbles upon Abrasia, oblivious to Mooboo\'s scheme for revenge on Space City.
We figured that someone would put two and two together, get out their metaphorical Breakfast decoder ring, and have a good time trying to figure out whether Grand Scheme of Things was a part of the saga. I was surprised when nobody mentioned it back in the fall and had to laugh when I saw that first mentioned in this thread.
Oh yeah, and as far as the answer goes: what are you asking me for? I can\'t play Twinkle Twinkle Little Star on the recorder let alone decipher this bouillabaisse.
Actually, check that. Nobody asked me anything. Just wanted to shed what little insight I had on this situation. But seriously, way to start a great thread, Leith.
Wait, now that I think of it, Grand Scheme is part of the Buquebus saga, but only in the matinee performance. It\'s replaced in the night show by the theme from Cats. Well, I\'m glad that\'s settled.
Real answer: yes it is.
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May the breakfast are writing a rock opera, fastly funked-out!
Lets through ATSD in there too. it\'s when, well, you know...
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yeah, ron wrote gladys in high school, which is why i was baffled when i first saw the freakout intros (the first time i\'d heard that gladys was a part of the \'saga\')..
****, might as well make vermont song part of the saga.. i think buquebus\' great-step-uncle was from VT, and LOVED the autumn... Za too, cause mooboo is a die-hard fan of the apizza...
So the saga maybe be developing into a Bfast project?
Interesting.
Wish I could have saw your face as you read the intros.
Now Dave, come on you know Vt. Song could only be a part of the coda of the saga
Peace and Love surounding me sung by Buquebus as he is baking a Za for Mooboo.
yeah I see the saga ending where it started.
Poor Buquebus.
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How about Spunk, because with that lusty Voodoo that Mooboo laid on Buquebus there\'s bound to be some of that lying around....
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yeah, ron wrote gladys in high school, which is why i was baffled when i first saw the freakout intros (the first time i\'d heard that gladys was a part of the \'saga\')..
****, might as well make vermont song part of the saga.. i think buquebus\' great-step-uncle was from VT, and LOVED the autumn... Za too, cause mooboo is a die-hard fan of the apizza...
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Honah Lee = Place Where Puff The Magic Dragon lived.
correct me if I am wrong, but isn\'t Gladys a Ron tune? I thought I had heard that from someone during some ride to a show one time. Again, it can just be my imagination that makes me say these things.
Well seeing as Gladys is the Pimp of Honalee,it leads me to believe the song is indeed a creation of Tim for his story.
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Honah Lee = Place Where Puff The Magic Dragon lived.
correct me if I am wrong, but isn\'t Gladys a Ron tune? I thought I had heard that from someone during some ride to a show one time. Again, it can just be my imagination that makes me say these things.
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Yeah most of these are already on the list. He is not crazy. Chris Mandangler has yet to confirm Late.... like he was supposed to w/ Tim. .
:biggrin: hey so I forgot........
Yeah No worries, it\'s not like this Saga is going to be done anytime soon. We have plenty of time for this geek ****.
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Yeah most of these are already on the list. He is not crazy. Chris Mandangler has yet to confirm Late.... like he was supposed to w/ Tim. .
:biggrin: hey so I forgot........
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Yeah Honalee is where Puff lives.
Spelling may be different.
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Just a quick question but isn\'t Honalee where Puff the Magic Dragon lived?
Also after further review, I think The Grand Scheme of Things could be in the saga. It could be an instrumental interpretation of a moment of epiphany for one of the characters in the saga when they suddenly understand The Grand Scheme of Things. Something like that. I just think it is one of the best closers they have in their repertoire (<---is that better?), though once again maybe I need to be committed.
Oh and Spacey after you have chimed in that\'s two votes for me being Nucking Futs.
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you all need to clear your minds.
ya\'ll are fuckin\' NUTS!
thanks.
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sor-RY ;)
i love how well beqeubus\'s internal sruggle is portrayed by the music in epi 3. so much emotion in tim\'s playing.
does anyone know if there are any episodes on the way or does it end at episode 3?
after thinking it over a little bit, i definately think that there has to be at least one more episode in the works. episode 3 does not feel like an ending to me, there is to much left unresolved.
There are probably going to be more songs relating to this saga. On the best 2005 breakfast show, Tim introduces the Ep 1 > Ep 2 > Ep 3 segue and says that it\'s part of an unfinished rock opera. So I would assume that there would be more songs. Ep 3 is the awakening, he still has to defeat Mooboo\'s Voodoo and return to Gladys.
I can see the comparison to Gamehenge, but I would still say that this saga (still unamed as far as I know) is vastly different. So far there\'s no guy stumbling across a magical orb of energy, there\'s no wierd monsters as far as I can tell either. You could really draw a comparison to this story with any other fantasy-based story (i.e. Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, The Dark Tower). With the whole Star Wars theme though, I just hope Gladys doesn\'t turn out to be Buquebus\'s sister, and I definitely hope Mooboo isn\'t Buquebus\'s mother then it would be all Hamlet and stuff.
As for other songs in it...
Well all the Episodes and Buquebus, are obviously in it.
Gladys Pimp & Kangaroos with Me must be in it.
Son of Simpleton definitely in it.
Pretty sure Psygn isn\'t, I actually think that\'s about the name change of the band. (Also in the best of 2005 breakfast discs)
Surreal Radio I think is part of it, it\'s how King Folix kept Space City controlled or possibly how Mooboo controls it now?
Space City Affair, I\'m guessing is in it as an instrumental.
Wake up in a Coma would make sense being in it, just it\'s name alludes to maybe something between Ep 2 and Ep 3.
Late & the Great > Over Exposure seems like it\'s in it. Late & the Great sounds like an ode to the Rockers that have since left this mortal coil. However, when paired with Over Exposure it appears that Late & the Great is an ode to Gladys Pimp and her team of Kangaroos, who died while Mooboo had Buquebus in her spell. That\'s just my guess. Black Domino appears to be some kind of crazy drug found on Honalee or in Space City, or maybe Space City is on a planet named Honalee. Anyway, Gladys, her Kangaroos and Buquebus used Black Domino to defeat King Folix in Ep 1. It appears though that Gladys\'s Over Exposure to it has killed her and possibly her Kangaroos.
The rest of the songs I can guess are purely conjecture...
Possibly Language of the Gods, don\'t know why but seems like it could be in there.
The Chase, I looked up Manthesis hawk and only got linked back to a The Breakfast lyrics page. Manthesis sounds like one of those crazy names that Tim may come up with. Or maybe I\'m crazy.
Cosmic Spaceway Rhyme, seeing as this whole saga seems to pertain to space. This song mentions space settlements and asteroids, believing recieving advancing races. Maybe a Cosmic Spaceway Rhyme is some sort of path to enlightenment? Dunno, as I said conjecture..
Puppetry? Possible, the lyrics are vague enough to be anything. Most likely not though.
That\'s all I got. I spent way too much time doing this but I find it intriguing so it\'s not like it waste. Feel free to tell me I\'m crazy...
Yeah most of these are already on the list. He is not crazy. Chris Mandangler has yet to confirm Late.... like he was supposed to w/ Tim. So we will see.
Tim is probably just laughing at us though.
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Thanks,
I\'m a super geek, super geek, I\'m super geekaaaaayow! :disco:
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^^^ YOUR CRAZY
but nice breakdown
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sor-RY ;)
i love how well beqeubus\'s internal sruggle is portrayed by the music in epi 3. so much emotion in tim\'s playing.
does anyone know if there are any episodes on the way or does it end at episode 3?
after thinking it over a little bit, i definately think that there has to be at least one more episode in the works. episode 3 does not feel like an ending to me, there is to much left unresolved.
There are probably going to be more songs relating to this saga. On the best 2005 breakfast show, Tim introduces the Ep 1 > Ep 2 > Ep 3 segue and says that it\'s part of an unfinished rock opera. So I would assume that there would be more songs. Ep 3 is the awakening, he still has to defeat Mooboo\'s Voodoo and return to Gladys.
I can see the comparison to Gamehenge, but I would still say that this saga (still unamed as far as I know) is vastly different. So far there\'s no guy stumbling across a magical orb of energy, there\'s no wierd monsters as far as I can tell either. You could really draw a comparison to this story with any other fantasy-based story (i.e. Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, The Dark Tower). With the whole Star Wars theme though, I just hope Gladys doesn\'t turn out to be Buquebus\'s sister, and I definitely hope Mooboo isn\'t Buquebus\'s mother then it would be all Hamlet and stuff.
As for other songs in it...
Well all the Episodes and Buquebus, are obviously in it.
Gladys Pimp & Kangaroos with Me must be in it.
Son of Simpleton definitely in it.
Pretty sure Psygn isn\'t, I actually think that\'s about the name change of the band. (Also in the best of 2005 breakfast discs)
Surreal Radio I think is part of it, it\'s how King Folix kept Space City controlled or possibly how Mooboo controls it now?
Space City Affair, I\'m guessing is in it as an instrumental.
Wake up in a Coma would make sense being in it, just it\'s name alludes to maybe something between Ep 2 and Ep 3.
Late & the Great > Over Exposure seems like it\'s in it. Late & the Great sounds like an ode to the Rockers that have since left this mortal coil. However, when paired with Over Exposure it appears that Late & the Great is an ode to Gladys Pimp and her team of Kangaroos, who died while Mooboo had Buquebus in her spell. That\'s just my guess. Black Domino appears to be some kind of crazy drug found on Honalee or in Space City, or maybe Space City is on a planet named Honalee. Anyway, Gladys, her Kangaroos and Buquebus used Black Domino to defeat King Folix in Ep 1. It appears though that Gladys\'s Over Exposure to it has killed her and possibly her Kangaroos.
The rest of the songs I can guess are purely conjecture...
Possibly Language of the Gods, don\'t know why but seems like it could be in there.
The Chase, I looked up Manthesis hawk and only got linked back to a The Breakfast lyrics page. Manthesis sounds like one of those crazy names that Tim may come up with. Or maybe I\'m crazy.
Cosmic Spaceway Rhyme, seeing as this whole saga seems to pertain to space. This song mentions space settlements and asteroids, believing recieving advancing races. Maybe a Cosmic Spaceway Rhyme is some sort of path to enlightenment? Dunno, as I said conjecture..
Puppetry? Possible, the lyrics are vague enough to be anything. Most likely not though.
That\'s all I got. I spent way too much time doing this but I find it intriguing so it\'s not like it waste. Feel free to tell me I\'m crazy...
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"Well you know son you just can\'t figure,
first thing you know you\'re gonna pull that trigger
and it\'s no wonder your reason goes bad,
honeybutter will drive you stone mad"
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I enjoy the taste
Puts a smile on my face
Honey Butter glaze
Oh how you amaze
gotta love TPalms........that crazy kid....
I don\'t know Steve, this line just freaks me the **** out...
"Beautiful luscious appetizing creamy delight"
what it\'s not???
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I don\'t know Steve, this line just freaks me the **** out...
"Beautiful luscious appetizing creamy delight"
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Read these lyrics and then tell me if you think its still about the anal sphincter.........
HONEY BUTTER
Honey Butter spread it on me
I like the taste of you in my daily routine
I can?t believe in a substitute
You?re the one vitamin I?d like to bite into
Honey Butter riddle me this
If I was bread would you give me a kiss of your
Beautiful luscious appetizing creamy delight
Satisfying to the last drop for my appetite
Honey Butter
Special sauce very strange
How you make my thoughts derange
You know its tough to keep one?s cool
Just being around the butter can make you act like a fool
Got a new flavor in my sights
Never had it before but it sho? looks right
Honey butter it is time
To get on down with the rhythm and the rhyme
Honey Butter
Honey butter flowing all around the world
Absurd the amount of butter one should really deserve
Desire people have but its respect that they need
The gift of a woman such a delicate treat
I lift up my nose and I take a smell
Blood rushes both brains they begin to swell
This baby got butter that be jiggling well
Her energy is wiggling my pheromone bell
I change up my language here comes the thrill
She?s getting all excited cause she knows the deal
I take her to my palace up on the hill
Honey Butter playground called Butterfield
I enjoy the taste
Puts a smile on my face
Honey Butter glaze
Oh how you amaze
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What? The song\'s called HoneyBUTTer. not Honeyvaginaer...
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butter
butter
butter
butter ;)
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The anus???
:slap: :no: :sigh:
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......cough ::homo:: cough........
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The anus???
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I am pretty sure Honey Butter is not part of the saga as it is basically an ode to the "sweetest spot on earth"
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any word as to whether or not Honey Butter is involved? What makes me think that is the intro mostly, and the song could be sung from Buquebus\' perspective and be related to Gladys Pimp or Mooboo or some ****.
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sor-RY ;)
i love how well beqeubus\'s internal sruggle is portrayed by the music in epi 3. so much emotion in tim\'s playing.
does anyone know if there are any episodes on the way or does it end at episode 3?
after thinking it over a little bit, i definately think that there has to be at least one more episode in the works. episode 3 does not feel like an ending to me, there is to much left unresolved.
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Call me crazy but I thought I heard someone mention the TGSOT was tied into this whole saga.
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sor-RY ;)
i love how well beqeubus\'s internal sruggle is portrayed by the music in epi 3. so much emotion in tim\'s playing.
does anyone know if there are any episodes on the way or does it end at episode 3?
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i love them both, but
episode 1 = lizards
episode 1 owns lizards imho
ENOUGH!
If you want to compare stories and songs start another thread please.
This thread is to discuss the songs in the Saga and how they fit together.
Thank You.
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i love them both, but
episode 1 = lizards
episode 1 owns lizards imho
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OK now that we have had our Music History lessons how about we start again?
With the introduction of some narrative @ FFVII (see below) the saga seems to be growing.
Tim is letting more and more out YEA!!
There are some songs that are def. a part of the Saga and some that seem as if they may be linked somehow.
So I felt a discussion should be started about the songs and how they all fit together.
Narrative introduced @ FFVII
Episode I
Happy
Space City is happy. Buquebus and Gladys Pimp have freed the planet from
King Folix\'s oppression. By putting Black Domino in the Breakfast processor,
they opened everyone\'s mind to think and act for themselves.
The people rapidly overthrow the Royal Extremists and discover the king has
killed himself in fear of upheaval. But Mooboo escapes, maintains her
anonymity, and takes the remaining Royal Extremists to the badlands of
Abrasia.
Meanwhile, Space City celebrates the revival of freedom, art, and love.
Episode II
Mooboo\'s Voodoo
Buquebus and Gladys have settled into their life in Honalee, though his itch
persists. Gladys knows Buquebus must fulfill his destiny and lets him go.
Buquebus travels for two years and stumbles upon Abrasia, oblivious to
Mooboo\'s Grand Scheme for revenge on Space City. With her desirable beauty
and evil mojo, Mooboo sets the trap and seduces Buquebus.
Sadly, the Voodoo consumes his energy and Buquebus becomes Mooboo\'s
slave. His weak spirit cries for help, but solace is found in her lust.
Episode III
Awakening
Buquebus is in constant inner struggle. His glow has been suppressed from
satisfying Mooboo\'s sexual thirst over the past year. His life force alerts him
to break free now or be destroyed.
Buquebus plans his escape. He must slip away unnoticed from Mooboo and the
Royal Extremists, leave Abrasia, and regain his individuality. Mooboo senses
his emancipation and prepares her coup de grace.
Buquebus wakes in the middle of the night to finish the battle between his
soul and the intoxicating Voodoo.
Songs in the Saga
Episodes 1-3
Buquebus
Gladys
Son of Simpleton
Songs that mention parts of the Saga thus are most likely in also
Overexposure(Gladys mention)
Surreal Radio(Space City is mine....)
Songs that may be a part of the Saga due to either lyrics or feeling.
Psygn( May be Buquebus singing the lyrics?)
The Chase(May be Buquebus singing?)
TFA(Is Buquebus the one wondering if he\'s on the otherside?)
SCA(Interlude of some type?)
So any other songs anyone can think of?
Am I off on any of the ones I mentioned?
Anyone know an order for the songs?
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The concept of songs telling a story broken up by speech, sometimes over music in between goes much further back than coletrane or trey. You both make some good points though. That being said, there are a couple thousand \'musicals\' that hollywood pumped out, which were basically films of english \'operas\', which were european versions of Indian Ragas, which were [...]
Not to mention Greek \'Operas\' comprised of recitation interspersed between large choral numbers that revolved around stories of mythical gods... Sounds pretty similar to me... and definitely not a lost art form as we\'ve progressed. Everyone has a story inside, it\'s just how you choose to expose it to the public.
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Using music to tell a story?!?!?! Trey invented that! Indian Ragas are the DEVIL!!!!!
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i love them both, but
episode 1 = lizards
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The concept of songs telling a story broken up by speech, sometimes over music in between goes much further back than coletrane or trey. You both make some good points though. That being said, there are a couple thousand \'musicals\' that hollywood pumped out, which were basically films of english \'operas\', which were european versions of Indian Ragas, which were [...]
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\'til nxt time. good night OMS
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i don\'t mean to "diss" and i most definately do not see tim as a trey wannabee...just the saga for me seemed to close...and i agree...a lot of the great bfast songs come from it...so i dont meant to insult i just thought i would add my 2 cents...thats all for tonight...going to sleep...talk to you another time
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Yeah I can see the similarities but I prefer to think of Tim in a larger pantheon of Songwriters than just a Trey wannabe.
So he picked a form that is easy for him to relate to in the Gamehenge story. Why is that bad? Everyone is influenced by their surroundings and being as Phish was huge in his teens and early 20\'s it came easier for him.
Yeah I see that but Come On much like Gamehenge w/o this"Saga" we would not have many ripping songs which is really what it\'s about right?
So why bother dissing something that may produce your favorite Breakfast tune if it already has not?
Oh and Trey was not the first to relate a story the way you say he did. He copied that style also. Really he did. Gamehenge was actually not that original just an easy way for him to write a thesis.
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i suppose i "asked for it" but what i guess the difference between you and i is that i see what trey did as extremely original (totally fun and not really taken too serisouly at first) but original nonetheless. i think the breakfast are an extremely original band but this sage of sorts is too reminicent of one of if not their biggest influence. i am totally aware that other bands and musicians have their own stories to tell in albums...to me..after reading the buquebus saga and knowing gamehenge very well, i see it as a strong influence (and again in my opinion too much of an influence) on the breakfasts "saga". i feel like when trey\'s story was original in the sense that no one really ever did it in that way, with telling a main story, separating the songs when played live, and improvising over them and basically having parts of the stories played out at certain points, watching the breakfast fans talk about the "epic sagas" etc is too reminicent of phish and gamehenge for me, if you dont see that than i guess to each its own, but again, its how i see it
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i know much about music history, i do however know that one of tims biggest influences was trey/phish...so its understandable why he would want to do something similar to their story in that sense...there is no need to start telling me what i do and do not know. im a music fan in general and if your going to start getting defensive because im saying i dont agree with one thing that the breakfast (one of my top three favorite bands) does...well i dont have much to say but get over it...im just stating my opinion...take it as you may
Well when you say things such as "i just think this idea of a saga or more loosely a "rock opera" has been used a little too often as of late" it makes you come across as not versed in Music History.
Seeing as the concept album is something even Frank Sinatra made "of late" seems to be dismissing quite a bit AND giving waaay to much credit to Trey when he also was just following in others fretsteps. Why is it so ridiculous that Tim has a story?
I was just giving you info you did not seem to know or refused to acknowledge.
Besides this is a thread to discuss the Saga not diss it. So you asked for it. ;)
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i know much about music history, i do however know that one of tims biggest influences was trey/phish...so its understandable why he would want to do something similar to their story in that sense...there is no need to start telling me what i do and do not know. im a music fan in general and if your going to start getting defensive because im saying i dont agree with one thing that the breakfast (one of my top three favorite bands) does...well i dont have much to say but get over it...im just stating my opinion...take it as you may
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Whatever, you obviously do not know much music history and the idea of stories and "concept albums" If you really think it is influenced by Trey you really do not understand the influences of Tim.
Yeah Zappa never had a concept album huh?
Oh and as for thinking it is a recent trend try looking up Jefferson Airplane\'s Blow to the Empire, Coltrane\'s A Love Supreme or how about Hendrix\'s Axis:Bold as Love.
Just an inkling of the full albums dedicated to a single theme or story.
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hahah, i do feel lucky as a breakfast fan...i just see this "buquebus saga" using fictional animals and creatures as too similar to trey\'s story. thats not to say that the music involved with this saga isnt great...i just think this idea of a saga or more loosely a "rock opera" has been used a little too often as of late. i get hes a story teller, but when a fair amount of the tunes come from this [epic] story i can\'t help but think that without gamehenge..the idea for this would never have come up. im in no way against originality or story telling through music, just the way this is organized with the songs telling this elaborate almost hidden story of creatures in far off lands..and everyone trying to figure out what it all means...i just see it as corny...at some point you have to just say "its great **** music" and thats it...
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"...oblivious to Mooboo\'s Grand Scheme for revenge on Space City..."
:chin:
Well it is the Grand Scheme of Things not a grand scheme. I do not think it is in the Saga.
i dont mean to sound like a dick, and im a huge breakfast fan, but does anyone else find this whole "saga" thing totally rediculous? like i understand gamehenge was for fun etc. and that was its own thing, but i cant help but think that this "saga" from the breakfast seems a bit unoriginal...again dont mean to sound rude or patronizing but its how i view it
Nope not ridiculous @ all.
Tim is just another in a long long **** long line of storytellers that happen to be musicians also. Many of these people have peculiar stories they like to tell. Some can be encompassed in a song or maybe 2. In this case it is many songs linked in theme and lyrically.
May seem unoriginal but then you would be just looking @ the surface.
Besides it has never been an Official Breakfast vehicle. It is Tim\'s creation which he has been kind enough to share with us. You should feel lucky as a Breakfast fan.
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i dont mean to sound like a dick, and im a huge breakfast fan, but does anyone else find this whole "saga" thing totally rediculous? like i understand gamehenge was for fun etc. and that was its own thing, but i cant help but think that this "saga" from the breakfast seems a bit unoriginal...again dont mean to sound rude or patronizing but its how i view it
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"...oblivious to Mooboo\'s Grand Scheme for revenge on Space City..."
:chin:
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^^
Because I went to lots of Phish shows and was never really into The Who :D
As for the Gamehenge comparison, this when completed will be better don\'t ya think?
I don\'t think one has to be better than the other. Gamehenge is a beautiful journey with a lot of history and is obviously something that has a lot of importance/memories/whatever for a lot of people. Maybe 20 years down the road I\'ll have an opinion about which is "Better"
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By the way, I never call Breakfast a "jam band". I call them a funky-ass shreddin rock band that jams the **** out of their ragin\' songs.
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Also, I thought Mooboo was a chick... only I just decided that a few weeks ago hehe
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Phaddy Boom Baddy? (we live in a space city affair)
probably not...
interesting thread. Seems kinda like Gamehenge..
1: PBB, I\'d say def not
2: why is it whenever a "jamband" wirtes a "rock opera" it always gets the inevitable Gamehendge comparison, like they\'re trying to be like Phish or something. Why not make a Tommy comparison, just my humble opinion
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I think there might be an istrumental in there to, Wake up?
I seem to remember this as well.
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It\'ll probably be way better than the Timmy Tucker Rock Opera, although, for comic appeal, thats always fun.
Hot Air Balloon is as good as it gets for jamband Sagas though.
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dont\' need to......... He told me the whole story on etime in the van during a national tour and Lat and the Great is DEF part of it, but I\'ll ask him tonight anyway....
I beleive Ekkatin is Buquebus\' son. Possibly w/ Mooboo
Yeah I heard SOS was but thanx for the confirmation. I\'ll put it in. I believe you abt Late.. but it was instrumental then now w/ lyrics is it still?
Phaddy Boom Baddy? (we live in a space city affair)
probably not...
interesting thread. Seems kinda like Gamehenge..
Yeah doubtful PBB is.
As for the Gamehenge comparison, this when completed will be better don\'t ya think?
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Phaddy Boom Baddy? (we live in a space city affair)
probably not...
interesting thread. Seems kinda like Gamehenge..
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dont\' need to......... He told me the whole story on etime in the van during a national tour and Lat and the Great is DEF part of it, but I\'ll ask him tonight anyway....
SON OF SIMPLETON
Hey have you heard of a Simpleton?
Have you heard of him, name is Simpleton, oohooh
He had a son his name Ekkatin
Son of Simpleton, named him Ekkatin, oohooh
He was an eccentric little kid
Eccentric that he was, quite a different touch, oohooh
Blubta was one of his favorite toys
Blubta that he did, did it as a kid, oohooh
At two he scribble blubtonian
Scribbled it right, down on the ground, oohooh
Magical with painting and he painted wind
Painted wind and sound, sun and all the clouds, oohooh
It\'s so nice
To see a little kid, creative as he is
He\'s a son
Son of Simpleton, Son of Simpleton
When he grew up, he jumped out of his painting
I beleive Ekkatin is Buquebus\' son. Possibly w/ Mooboo
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the text for those are def in the setlist thread for the freakout
Son of Simpleton is def part of it
Late and the Great
I think there might be an istrumental in there to, Wake up?
Thanx I\'ll look there
SOS is? I thought so Is it confirmed by Tim?
and Late.... really? OK I can see that but I also see that song as an ode to the past musicians we have lost. Can U get a confirmation from Tim? PLS?
I put in SCA as a type of interlude
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the text for those are def in the setlist thread for the freakout
Son of Simpleton is def part of it
Late and the Great
I think there might be an istrumental in there to, Wake up?
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With the introduction of some narrative @ FFVII (see below) the saga seems to be growing.
Tim is letting more and more out YEA!!
There are some songs that are def. a part of the Saga and some that seem as if they may be linked somehow.
So I felt a discussion should be started.
Narrative introduced @ FFVII
Episode I
Happy
Space City is happy. Buquebus and Gladys Pimp have freed the planet from
King Folix\'s oppression. By putting Black Domino in the Breakfast processor,
they opened everyone\'s mind to think and act for themselves.
The people rapidly overthrow the Royal Extremists and discover the king has
killed himself in fear of upheaval. But Mooboo escapes, maintains her
anonymity, and takes the remaining Royal Extremists to the badlands of
Abrasia.
Meanwhile, Space City celebrates the revival of freedom, art, and love.
Episode II
Mooboo\'s Voodoo
Buquebus and Gladys have settled into their life in Honalee, though his itch
persists. Gladys knows Buquebus must fulfill his destiny and lets him go.
Buquebus travels for two years and stumbles upon Abrasia, oblivious to
Mooboo\'s Grand Scheme for revenge on Space City. With her desirable beauty
and evil mojo, Mooboo sets the trap and seduces Buquebus.
Sadly, the Voodoo consumes his energy and Buquebus becomes Mooboo\'s
slave. His weak spirit cries for help, but solace is found in her lust.
Episode III
Awakening
Buquebus is in constant inner struggle. His glow has been suppressed from
satisfying Mooboo\'s sexual thirst over the past year. His life force alerts him
to break free now or be destroyed.
Buquebus plans his escape. He must slip away unnoticed from Mooboo and the
Royal Extremists, leave Abrasia, and regain his individuality. Mooboo senses
his emancipation and prepares her coup de grace.
Buquebus wakes in the middle of the night to finish the battle between his
soul and the intoxicating Voodoo.
Songs confirmed to be in the Saga
Episodes 1-3
Buquebus
Gladys
Son of Simpleton
Late and the Great
Grand Scheme of Things
A New Beginning
Songs that mention parts of the Saga thus are most likely in also
Overexposure(Gladys mention)
Surreal Radio(Space City is mine....)
Songs that may be a part of the Saga due to either lyrics or feeling.
Psygn( May be Buquebus singing the lyrics?)
The Chase(May be Buquebus singing?)
TFA(Is Buquebus the one wondering if he\'s on the otherside?)
SCA(Interlude of some type?)
WUIAC(Interlude)
So any other songs anyone can think of?
Am I off on any of the ones I mentioned?
Anyone know an order for the songs?
Anyone Care?