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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: Spacey on January 12, 2006, 06:55:17 pm
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i feel like part of the family now
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When I first heard it I thought it was about soup too....
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probably not.
my turntable doesn\'t go in reverse.... :(
;)
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ok, i\'ll admit it...
at my second show (4/30/04) or maybe it was my third show (5/1/04), whatever, they were playing BB and i started laughing, leaned over to todd and asked, \'are they really singing about the soup?\' and he said \'no, they\'re singing about chris farley. great ain\'t it?!\' or something along those lines. unfortunately, due to the volume of the band and my allen woody ruined hearing, i thought he said, \'no, they\'re singing about beef barley.\' and i thought maybe he didn\'t know that beef barley was a soup. jill had to clue me in later on....
i know. i suck.
i\'m pretty confident you would have figured it out eventually, mr. king! :D
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ok, i\'ll admit it...
at my second show (4/30/04) or maybe it was my third show (5/1/04), whatever, they were playing BB and i started laughing, leaned over to todd and asked, \'are they really singing about the soup?\' and he said \'no, they\'re singing about chris farley. great ain\'t it?!\' or something along those lines. unfortunately, due to the volume of the band and my allen woody ruined hearing, i thought he said, \'no, they\'re singing about beef barley.\' and i thought maybe he didn\'t know that beef barley was a soup. jill had to clue me in later on....
i know. i suck.
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yeah, i believe they called it \'chris farley\' when they first wrote it, but soon changed it to beef barley (before it was first played).
http://thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=4689&page=3
So, umm, Dave, ya sure it was changed before it was played, or was it playe donce as CF then switched, or the CF Spacey sees in that setlist could be a different song? The world may never know. . .
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hmmmm good question
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HEY!! With the exception of very few people on this board, we were all NEWBs once (and some of us still are.... after years).
give lunch a break...
take your salvation somewhere else.
No one every called him a n00b, we are simply stating that we knew about the Beef Barley=Chris Farley.
Which brings me to a question for the wizard, Was the song originally named Chris Farley? Because on August 10, 1999 they band played a Chris Farley > Flower Punk
at Cafe Nine. On 10/30/99 the song is labeled Beef Barley, that I believe was the 1st Fonghoulish Freakout at the Puppet House. On the lyrics page the song is credited with a 10/30/99, which I assume is the first time played date.
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HEY!! With the exception of very few people on this board, we were all NEWBs once (and some of us still are.... after years).
give lunch a break...
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now your just talking plain old crazy...
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Hey guys...I\'ve come to a revelation...
I was totally on heroin, listening to Escher\'s Etchings and looking at my M.C. Escher poster, and then it hit me...
Escher\'s Etchings is about the artist M.C. Escher!!! You know, that guy who does those drawings with the stairs and stuff. Just thought you all might like to know.
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i like beef barley and n00b b00bs....
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boob not noob... the whole newbie noob noob noob is just because i can\'t stand the whole "noob" thing, after all werent we all newbies at some point.
but iguess now that the hazings out of the way, i\'ll take another 3 month break and post something outlandish later
:lol:
Did anyone call you a n00b or anything along that little "hazing"? I think you may have gotten away without that call. Either way, welcome.
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boob not noob... the whole newbie noob noob noob is just because i can\'t stand the whole "noob" thing, after all werent we all newbies at some point.
but iguess now that the hazings out of the way, i\'ll take another 3 month break and post something outlandish later
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btw your calling the guy who started this site a noob.
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after all that, you thought we were serious?
Either way, brah, nice to have you around.
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i\'ve been on hold all morning with the shenanigan police.. is everyone from this thread trying to get through or what???
these people need to take my call. this can\'t be true...
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they\'re bustin yopur chops guy, we all know that\'s what that song is about
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you guys are all funny. im not sitting home crying about being lame comments on a forum. i just thought that info may have been a little enrichment piece for you guys. and no i didnt havce to play my deuce vinyl backwards, you just gotta get really spun out and listen to beef barley after you finished watching Chris Farley\'s best of on DVD. its all there, its definitely about chris farley, ya know the round comedian....ala BLack Sheep, TOmmy Boy, BEVERLY HILLS NINJA...SNL, and so on.
the hints i left are my proof.
check out Chris Farley\'s SNL best of dvd, you\'ll see him as an ugly gap girl, as a motivation speaker who exclaims "i live in avan down by the river"
so before you guys post anything else in response to me, do your hw
noobie newbie noob noob noob, you\'re all a bunch of boobs
ps i\'d never burn a deuce vinyl...its sacrilage
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i\'ve been on hold all morning with the shenanigan police.. is everyone from this thread trying to get through or what???
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Deuce on vinyl=:drool:
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well, if he could take all the **** we gave then he will fit in just fine. I guess it\'s a littl over the line but thats what happens when you bump an old thread.
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we\'re so bad, that was this guy\'s FIRST POST.... right now he\'s probably crying and burning his deuce vinyl.
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playing the deuce vinyl backwards? hmmm, well, I am off to find a deuce vinyl, a record player and I am going to get to the bottom of this for once and for all.
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did you have to play your deuce vinyl backwords to hear these things you speak of?? :confused:
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its really deep man. REALLY deep.
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I still don\'t see the connection.
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well dude, come on that\'s a pretty tightly encrypted message in the song. i\'m surprised he figured it out!
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Am I the only person here who has sucessfully decrypted this song and realized its an homage to the late and great CHRIS FARLEY.... if you lovev a fat man in a little coat, you must let BB go on. BEEF BARLEY IS THE ****, CHRIS FARLEY IS THE MAN. you are all haters. I think we should leave it up to the breakfast to decide what they do and dont wanna put on their setlists
*hints*
-But going that fast I guess he had to crash
Never wanting to lose his buzz
-So wild was his soul not even he had control
-Smiles this man brought to this land
-He lived in a van down by the river (motivational speaker)
Herlihy Boy\'s dad (one of adam sandlers characters)
One of the gap girls looking real bad(SNL fans anyone!)
-He might of been a black sheep
But he played a good loaf of meat
I think he is serious.
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:sadban:
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Am I the only person here who has sucessfully decrypted this song and realized its an homage to the late and great CHRIS FARLEY....
wait...who??
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I thought it was about the soup.
Whose this Chris Farley character?
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lunch your brilliant!
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I am the only person here who has sucessfully decrypted this song and realized its an homage to the late and great CHRIS FARLEY....
:chin: really? I had no idea :sarcasm:
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beef barley is the ****. i mean, its no mooboos but its a classic. its a song that people will remember when they hear it and will be whistling it on the drive home. plus, chris farley is the man
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Am I the only person here who has sucessfully decrypted this song and realized its an homage to the late and great CHRIS FARLEY.... if you lovev a fat man in a little coat, you must let BB go on. BEEF BARLEY IS THE ****, CHRIS FARLEY IS THE MAN. you are all haters. I think we should leave it up to the breakfast to decide what they do and dont wanna put on their setlists
*hints*
-But going that fast I guess he had to crash
Never wanting to lose his buzz
-So wild was his soul not even he had control
-Smiles this man brought to this land
-He lived in a van down by the river (motivational speaker)
Herlihy Boy\'s dad (one of adam sandlers characters)
One of the gap girls looking real bad(SNL fans anyone!)
-He might of been a black sheep
But he played a good loaf of meat
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I got a poison dart frog
Hey Joc,
Nice to have you back... what kind did you get? I ended up selling all of mine off... too much work for me...
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**** the noobs.
I agree. I won\'t even talk to someone until they\'ve been to 50 shows.
:lol:
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**** the noobs.
I agree. I won\'t even talk to someone until they\'ve been to 50 shows.
However, I\'m sticking with my idea of only shelving Beef Barley within 150 miles of East Haven.
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hey joc! where ya been. long time no talk. hope all is well.
Was lacking internet access for awhile (since moving to my new place in October actually.) I\'m back on board though. All is well except for my stupid horse is lame again. That aside, things are great. I love my new place, I\'m starting school (over again, new major) tomorrow, my dog is fluffier than ever, I got a poison dart frog, and that\'s about it. Hope things are good with you too. Maybe I\'ll see you at the Knit? If I can make it there...
Oh also, sold the truck and I have a new car. It feels like driving a sports car compared to the truck. Kind of funny, since it\'s a wagon. :P
Sorry about the hijacking. Recommence talk about Beef Barley.
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hell naw! This song has only got better and better through \'05
It\'s grown on me consistently for the last 5 or so years I\'ve listened to PB
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hey joc! where ya been. long time no talk. hope all is well.
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**** the noobs.
hey!!
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I have never been a huge fan of the song, but I guess some good jams come out of it. So no, I don\'t think it should be shelved, but it would be good for it to be played less often I think. Plus, why shelf a song that so many people like? It seems to get people moving. Gets me moving towards the door for a cigarette break, but that\'s not the point.
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**** the noobs.
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I dig the newb angle. Not too many newbs at New England/New York shows these days though.
New idea: Beef Barley shall be benched only within 150 miles of East Haven.
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I love the jam way too much not to hear this song. It wasn\'t until last summer that I realized how tight the jam is and how much I love it. If they do shelve it, put in another vote for KOTE!
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Where are the Spacey stats on how often Beef Barley is played?
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the jams are bad ass.
the verse melody is really cool.
there are other tunes that are more due for a shelvin\' (no glove, no love?)
NGNL is not played as often as it used to be but if there were a song I would like to see put away for a bit this is the song I would pick.
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the jams are bad ass.
the verse melody is really cool.
there are other tunes that are more due for a shelvin\' (no glove, no love?)
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IMHO, BB is definitely one NOT to be shelved. I agree with all the comments about newbies digging it and also about the sick jams which come out of it. Sometimes we here forget that we live and breathe The Breakfast, so of course, some songs will seem to come around too often. Perhaps reduce it\'s rotation, especially in the NE, but it should stay for the tours further afield.
I never got to see the final tracklist for the samplers that were being burned and handed out, but I guarantee that it was one of the first songs to be chosen. Just a thought, but if anyone knows a recipient of said samplers, why not ask them which songs grabbed them the most/least - that would lead to an impartial view on what should and should not be included more regularly.
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they don\'t play IG too much anymore (not that I can recall at least)
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Do not shelve it for all points stated:ie newb friendly, great jams, etc. But def played a lil less would get this baby some fresh legs. It all goes back to the fact that they need to mix up the setlists more. Inner Glimpse should be shelved, not that it is bad but it also got played WAY too much.
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I agree with everyone, play it less. i don\'t think it should be shelved completely though. i think it\'s a good tune though i\'m a funk fan and Ron kills it. I think it\'s also a good way for the guys to work on there vocals and a bit of harmony. i think by playing it they all come back to the same page and it forces them to listen to each other a bit harder that\'s why the jams in the middle are so awesome. oh and on a side note, i\'ve been hearing MiB on the radio like everyday, and BB is no MiB
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agreed, ive seen it at probably 90% of shows ive been too (including just the end section to close out second set in narragansett, which was cool as hell by the way), and it is a bit goofy.... but this song is totally the one that newbies catch on to at first... myself included.... and i think its a great avenue for some new fans to groove to and then explore some more....
its pretty much the type of song i could get my unknowing friends to enjoy and then get them to a show and then get there socks knocked off.... so i say no shelf, but we\'ll see in another 10 shows or so if i change my mind
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im never down for a beef barley when they start playing it, but in 2005 i usually changed my mind halfway thru because a lot of them were pretty sick. i dont think it should be shelved because its a song that new fans always remember and want to hear. i definitely don\'t need to hear it at daniel st or any other local shows, though. i dont think beef barley will ever get shelved, maybe just played less. but if they want to shelve it and bring back lovelake (and za) that would be just fine with me.
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Barley has been a great vehicle for some of the best jammin ive heard all year. when you hear the opening lick i jsut know something hot is gonna come out of this, and as far as shelving it i disagree. its a great tune for newbs to dig, and of course there is always the potential for something monumental in the jam. people say it is overplayed but they also are att every single show within the east coast. not that there is anything wrong with that but that is why its "overheard".
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i agree with igzi very much.....he basically put my point to the table. i got the shelve beef barley idea from wolfman at NYE late nite, though i have been having the same feelings anyways. the song is weak. besides fresh cut it is the lamest/poorest song in the breakfast catalogue, and much much MUCH too overplayed. i think the last "ser" BB jam i heard was at the last porter\'s show. all the jams i\'ve seen have been mediocre since then. i completely disagree with treychica on the shelve Vt. song statement. and leith, if i were you, I wouldn\'t worry too much. but anyways, i for sure am going to bring the shelf beef barley idea up to the guys. nothing personal so don\'t flip out mothafuckas
oh and also.......DrewKingsley, i disagree with your Phaddy Boom statement. dont get me wrong i got sick of it but now i really enjoy it. the intense stuff more than the reggae, but seriously, this song is pretty key. they rarely play it now a days so it\'s nice to hear, in my opinion
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Team Kote thanks you for your support Wolf!!!
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They\'ve torn this song up every time played for the last three years. Unfortunately I have seen this song every show I\'ve been to for the last three years. I\'m getting bored with it and find it to be too dittyish after seeing it 100+ times. It is their most-played song. Time to explore some other areas.
SUBS!
Beef Barley, take a breather. Kote, get in there and show me what you got!
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The song itself is weak. I mean it was fun for awhile. I mean how can a Chris Farley tribute song NOT be fun, but it\'s lost its edge. However the jam is my favorite showcase for Ron to show off his chops, especially when he gets in Bootsy mode. If there was maybe a way they could leave out a verse or two and jump right to the jam, I\'d be pretty content.
However I feel that VT Song should be killed, buried 6 feet under and that Kote should come back in full force. I dont care if Kote was written for a friend of the band and carries a goofy stigma, musically it transcends serness, reproducing itself as a lovechild by RHCP and Steely Dan. BRING KOTE BACK!!!!
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yes... I\'m sick of it. WAY overplayed.
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I would agree with the fact it should be played less. I would have to say I see that song more than any other. I remember one time thinking that if i went to a show that they did not play it. That particular show seem to stand out more.
Although there is alot of merit in what was said about it being played on tour it would have to be in the rotation.
Beef barley........A very good song jam has been out of control! I do know my wife would be pissed she loves the song to death, I also see the band more than her. So it should not be shelved but just play it less.
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Should we really be doing or saying anything that might stifle the art and artistry that is The Breakfast ?
If the band wants to wrap that tune around something, chop it up. play it for 45 minutes, fart the intro etc if it is new and they think it has merit than I open to at least hear it
:) :D
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If they are on the road keep it in rotation. It is definitely an easy tune for newcomers to latch onto and works in setlists in a lot of different ways.
If the band is in home territory play it less. The song benefits from freshness.
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i think i\'m going with yes....but just for a lil while, like until they go on a tour outside of new england, lets say.
Hey man I never said I was coming for you.lol
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Ok, so I voted for "another useless post" but IMO, there should be a "hell no!!!" button on the poll. I luv this song... it\'s one of the only ones I know the words to & it\'s so fun to bounce around to ...Beeeeeef, Beef Barley!
(https://www.bettycrocker.com/images/beautyshots/r36020fp.jpg)...mmm good ;)
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I voted "another useless post", just as a protest vote. Personal feelings about the tune aside, "Beef Barley" shouldn\'t be shelved for two reasons:
1. It\'s a song that newbs can latch onto (see: Phaddy Boom ****-Break)
2. The beginning, middle, and end all segue well
But my personal feeling is that "Beef Barley" shouldn\'t be SHELVED, but should be played less. I feel like it comes up when the band doesn\'t know exactly what to play (especially when it is a set opener). As far as the jam being a monster, that just comes with the territory of it being a Breakfast tune. Any song the Breakfast wanted to have a monster jam would have a monster jam by now if played with regularity since 10/30/1999. If there is an applicable replacement (see: Honeybutter) the song can definitely be played less frequently, though not shelved. Speaking as one who sees The Breakfast about once a month (average), I wouldn\'t mind seeing it every four shows or so.
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i think i\'m going with yes....but just for a lil while, like until they go on a tour outside of new england, lets say.
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WTF? R U SER? No way. If I do not get a Beef Barley out here because of this. I\'m gonna get REAL pissed and I\'ll be gunning for ya Spacey!
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suprisingly i think i\'m going with yes....but just for a lil while, like until they go on a tour outside of new england, lets say. i mean i happen to be a big fan of the tune, cornyness and all, plus the jams have been almost always tight as **** over the last year, but i wasn\'t totally feeling it at the last two shows i saw (nye & middle east). Its a great jam usually b/c its got that groove funk thing going on with various rhcp/pfunk teases all over the place, which i really love but i agree that it has sorta deflated as of late. I think a lil time off will help bring this tune back to life.
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it has been very strong lately IMO. i like it!
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yes. jams are good...composed section is corny as **** hell and gets very old hearing it at every show.
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hell yeah. i mean, the jam in it is usually good, but i hear it at basically every show i go to. a band w/ as many songs as they do has no need for that, especially if it isn\'t a new song or anything.
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Even for a little while.
I for one am a fan of this song, as goofy as it is. For most of 2005, it was a monster. And I remember a few months ago some .infoers talking about how they were not a fan of the actual song but the jam was what made it worth the while. And that once the jam become flat, dull or not impressive the song was going back on the **** list. Now, 2005 was definitely full of some great jams in Beef Barley and plenty of good times.
Last night, Bezerker asked me how I felt about Beef Barley on the shelf (Disclaimer: It is by NO MEANS SHELVED). Gencs, Bezerker and I discussed it for a brief moment and kinda came to the conclusion that the air was let out of the balloon (Barley became flat) on NYE that was the monster jams and well executed playing on Barley.
I wonder how other people feel about the actual tune.
Discuss.