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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: Igziabeher on December 19, 2005, 05:42:28 pm
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:lol:
chuckle worthy thread
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:spikes thread, does moonwalk:
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The original topic was about the moe. board not all of PT. All of the boards on PT have their own personality and etiquette. The moe. board is not like the Trey/Phish/Bisco boards. Nonsense that goes on in those forums (which contributes to their not being taken seriously) is not as common amongst the moe. crowd.
When board regulars have negative reactions to fluff threads it leads to negative images of the fluffed bands and their fanbases. Desperation also turns people off and that is what a lot of these fluffing threads can reek of if they are not handled properly.
:golf clap:
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fair enough
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The original topic was about the moe. board not all of PT. All of the boards on PT have their own personality and etiquette. The moe. board is not like the Trey/Phish/Bisco boards. Nonsense that goes on in those forums (which contributes to their not being taken seriously) is not as common amongst the moe. crowd.
When board regulars have negative reactions to fluff threads it leads to negative images of the fluffed bands and their fanbases. Desperation also turns people off and that is what a lot of these fluffing threads can reek of if they are not handled properly.
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Internet fluffing is like hard drugs: There\'s a point up to which it\'s good, but anything beyond that brings on negative reactions really fast.
i guess...but again, since the original topic was about PT specifically, the way i see it, the only negative reactions I see in general there, at least on the Bisco and Trey boards, are from the **** that have plagued the site over time. You have to ask yourself, how far will these negative reactions go? You have to be a real dork (even more than me) to be that guy who desides to get all bent of shape just because another band is getting fluffed or pimped or whatever you want to call it in a music related forum (of the same genre). It\'s not tough to skip over a thread, so they can take a seat on my thumb if they get pissy about it. It\'s flooded with enough nonsense already, so why not throw in a couple of Breakfast fluff threads? When it gets negative reactions, the smart readers will be able to recognize the **** the moment they read their negative, holier-than-thou attitude responses. I personally would\'nt post up thread after thread about the Breakfast on there, and I can definitaly see where Igzi and you are coming from, but I would not give a **** what kind of reactions I bring up in a PT forum because of the overall credibility to which it holds (which is minimal). Maybe a few years ago I would be cautious, or if it were a more official forum put together by the band rather than the fans I would be cautious just the same if not more so, but certainly not now. It\'s flooded with young hotheaded punks who would reject any other up-and-coming band just for the spite and ignorance of it all. These punks outweigh the people who are trying to discuss various topics in an intellegent way. These types of closed minded, nonexcepting people have even become more prevalant in the scene outside of the internet as well, and should/can be ignored.
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"Stay away from the west side" - Cookie Kwan, Lionel Hutz\'s number one west side real estate agent
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you\'re all a bunch of geeks, \'nuff said ;)
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I think Igziabeher has the right idea. You can\'t just fluff fluff fluff on the internet or people will push back. It\'s not like it is with flyers where you want to get them up everywhere.
Internet fluffing is like hard drugs: There\'s a point up to which it\'s good, but anything beyond that brings on negative reactions really fast.
Imagine the forums are real life. Like say everyone on .info is at a Breakfast show. At the end of first set you turn to the guy next to you and say "Wow, how about that Buquebus?" to which he replies "Tea Leaf Green kicks ass!" You then notice that that guy goes around to everyone at the Breakfast show and does nothing but talk about Tea Leaf Green. It doesn\'t matter what anyone else is talking about and and it doesn\'t matter what band is playing, he just talks about Tea Leaf Green. This guy is a total loser. Nobody likes him. By the third time this guy strolls up to your conversation and says "Guess what? Tea Leaf Green is playing here soon!", everyone tells him to shut up and walks away.
You\'ve got to establish respect first, then slip them the fluff when they\'re comfortable with you. They shouldn\'t even think it\'s fluff. If you think your post is fluffing, you haven\'t established your respect properly yet.
I\'m content to leave PT moe. to Igziabeher.
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There is a fine line and limit between pimping/fluffing and over saturating. When you cross it, you sort of burn your bridges. When you do try to make a post about the band that is suppose to be taken seriousily, you get met with **** and their remarks. If Igzy and Oldnewbie have it taken care of on PT moe., then leave it at that. You also don\'t want the band to have potential fans cast aside because someone continousily fluffs the band. We don\'t want people to be turned away for some lame excuse as such, but it is the way the internet works. If there is anything I am not, it is a passive fan who does not endorse the band every chance I get.
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^ haha! some people get hostile when you even mention another band, let alone compare them on some boards!
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...i like this thread. it makes me think of how great of a place this board is.
yeah just don\'t compare The Bfast to another band and you\'re golden. ;)
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Nothing wrong with pimping the b\'fast but you need to remember that PT moe. is moe. territory and that they will defend it as such.
I\'ve seen Wah get murdered on Pheesh for pimping the band, simply for putting up a setlist. People do get tired of seeing the same ****. There is nothing you can do, its a fact of life on the internet.
so why stop just for the PT ****? i guess thats what my point is. i really wasnt trying to pick Igziabeher apart. i actually agree with him. but, you gotta realize that every board on PT gets frequented by many people who dont even post because of these **** (i\'m one of them), yet continue to read on because there are always some threads or posts within a thread (even if its hijacked by flamers) that are relevant and that strike interest to those who are there to discuss music or anything else in a positive, mature manner. Just because the pricks who flame and **** and whine stand out more there, it doesnt mean that there arent any real, passionate music fans that are constantly seeking out new stuff to hear. i agree that we shouldnt swamp the PT boards with Breakfast related threads, because thats just bad taste and would only get the attention of said ****. but we shouldnt feel totally reluctant to do it...i like this thread. it makes me think of how great of a place this board is.
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Nothing wrong with pimping the b\'fast but you need to remember that PT moe. is moe. territory and that they will defend it as such.
I\'ve seen Wah get murdered on Pheesh for pimping the band, simply for putting up a setlist. People do get tired of seeing the same ****. There is nothing you can do, its a fact of life on the internet.
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i meant to say chances are they just closed minded, set-on-one-band kind of fan...they arent needed
that\'s a little harsh...although it IS a moe. board.
On this board you have different forums for various topics. The PT moe. board that Igz is talking about has one page, and it gets to the point that most topics on the first page seem to be about other bands or random crap, and right now at least, people needing tickets for the New Years Run. It does get old, but I don\'t mind the Breakfast posts. Igz does try to keep them to a thread or 2 a week - usually a kick ass show he\'s just seen, or a setlist post, and the weekly Thursday pimping of freddie\'s show. When there gets to be multiple posts for the same thing, and advertising for the Thursday show this early, people will ignore it.
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well if they are just going to give them the cold shoulder just because they are sick of seeing them being pimped on say the moe. board, chances are they arent the type of closed minded fan the breakfast community wants IMO.
that came out wrong...i meant to say chances are they just closed minded, set-on-one-band kind of fan...they arent needed
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i\'m not saying there\'s any harm in it. i\'m just saying i got that place on lockdown. there\'s nothing anyone can post about the breakfast on that particular board that i either haven\'t already or are planning to do fairly soon. just making note of it. i could even go through the .info members list and pull out all the names that i have personally made sure got to their first breakfast show, came here, joined, etc., etc.
LOL u mean tealeafgreenhead huh Igzy? If he would post ANYTHING but a TLG post it just would not be the same.
I know when I pimp TLG or The Bfast I expect one or 2 responses but that is because I post so infrequently there and if you or Duane don\'t post in my thread everyone just passes it by. which is fine, even my moe or wsp (on their PT board) posts get little attention so I understand the "community" aspect.
That being said, UM and other bands get constant run all over the PT boards so why not The Breakfast?
there is a point of oversaturation where some people get so sick of seeing the same band get pimped over and over, they automatically get negative about said band w/o hearing a single note of their music. stupid, i know. but even ask freddie about the people on the pheesh board. some of them just automatically turn down all things breakfast due to overpimping. if that makes sense.
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LOL u mean tealeafgreenhead huh Igzy? If he would post ANYTHING but a TLG post it just would not be the same.
I know when I pimp TLG or The Bfast I expect one or 2 responses but that is because I post so infrequently there and if you or Duane don\'t post in my thread everyone just passes it by. which is fine, even my moe or wsp (on their PT board) posts get little attention so I understand the "community" aspect.
That being said, UM and other bands get constant run all over the PT boards so why not The Breakfast?
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i dont see the harm in pimpin the band on PT. there are a bunch of threads all over every PT board that have nothing to do with music at all and get replies (positive or negative) from the whiners and bitchers to the intellegent alike. we dont have to leave it all to you. let them ****. the people who **** arent the only ones who are on PT. for every 3 bitchers there is always at least 1 person who is interested. after all, its about the music. theyre in the same genre of music, so why not? on a side note, the breakfast has had some love on the Bisco board and the positive responses outweighed the negative.
all in all, it doesnt have to be a covert operation for us to want to get the Breakfast exposed to people who share similar tastes in music.
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all in good time...
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but could a couple of you refrain from putting up posts pimping the Breakfast on the PT moe. board. Not that there\'s anything wrong w/ it, but I got it coverred. I guess its not that big a deal, but generally the people over there don\'t give a **** what most people have to say unless they recognize their name. For instance, right now there is a post from someone by the name of Sequia(wonder who that is) talking bout the VT show, and I posted one two days earlier on the same subject, and there\'s one from fitzy pimpin\' the GDradio show, which i do every Thursday. Either way, most people on there can be real ****, and well I know how to deal w/ them.
i appreciate your (pimpin)efforts but,if i look on the board and dont see
anything, i feel the need to get out the information.let them **** all they
want,but if the info is on the front board,people will see it and maybe get
their wheels turning a bit.the show at nectars w/raq sit ins is something that
needs to be heard about.maybe someone could write a little something about the show to jambase,the more hype the better...
you tell em,mr.sequoiatree
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but could a couple of you refrain from putting up posts pimping the Breakfast on the PT moe. board. Not that there\'s anything wrong w/ it, but I got it coverred. I guess its not that big a deal, but generally the people over there don\'t give a **** what most people have to say unless they recognize their name. For instance, right now there is a post from someone by the name of Sequia(wonder who that is) talking bout the VT show, and I posted one two days earlier on the same subject, and there\'s one from fitzy pimpin\' the GDradio show, which i do every Thursday. Either way, most people on there can be real ****, and well I know how to deal w/ them.
i appreciate your (pimpin)efforts but,if i look on the board and dont see
anything, i feel the need to get out the information.let them **** all they
want,but if the info is on the front board,people will see it and maybe get
their wheels turning a bit.the show at nectars w/raq sit ins is something that
needs to be heard about.maybe someone could write a little something about the show to jambase,the more hype the better...
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yeah, especially when I post Breakfast threads a few times a week, people tend to get \'oh no, not again\' on me, but generally i get the benefit of the doubt, since I post more moe. related threads as anybody else on there.
but for instance, there\'s this one tealeafgreen fan that hops on there and posts **** for them every once in a while and the people totally give him **** every time since all he ever posts are tea leaf green threads. its all stupid really, but nothing you can do about it.
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Understand completely what you are saying. I, myself, have never ventured into PT to post. It seems that all I ever hear about PT is bitchin/whinin, not like there is anything wrong with that.
It doesn\'t sound foolish that a moe. message board can get its fill of "Breakfast related threads". Fluff it when you can. I know that we wouldn\'t like for another band to come into here and fluff there shows.
Especially bands like Urban Fetch ;)
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do people any phantasy tour do anything but ****?
you\'d be surprised, sometimes there can be some intellectual conversations on there. you just gotta watch your step, and not **** off the whiners. fact is, i was gonna come home from work today and toss up a thread in anticipation for the show at the Middle East on Friday, but well, now the board is already had its share of Breakfast threads for the day, so now I have to wait a bit, so as not to overrun the place w/ Breakfast content. I know it sounds foolish, but I know how the place works, and I\'ve had that place coverred for a good while now, so let me do my thing, I got a system.
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do people any phantasy tour do anything but ****?
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http://www.phantasytour.com/moe/boards_thread.cgi?threadID=885779
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For instance, right now there is a post from someone by the name of Sequia(wonder who that is)
really??
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I was starting to wonder who was pimping in your territory.
they do get bitchy...
hey hot stuff, funny seeing you here.
wanna cyber?
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I was starting to wonder who was pimping in your territory.
they do get bitchy...
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but could a couple of you refrain from putting up posts pimping the Breakfast on the PT moe. board. Not that there\'s anything wrong w/ it, but I got it coverred. I guess its not that big a deal, but generally the people over there don\'t give a **** what most people have to say unless they recognize their name. For instance, right now there is a post from someone by the name of Sequia(wonder who that is) talking bout the VT show, and I posted one two days earlier on the same subject, and there\'s one from fitzy pimpin\' the GDradio show, which i do every Thursday. Either way, most people on there can be real ****, and well I know how to deal w/ them.