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Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: RobdogUk on December 30, 2005, 12:39:06 pm
Quote from: SlimPickens
people think too much about the politics that surround music.  If it contributes to great music coming out of your speakers, then don\'t think twice cause it\'s alright

Seconded
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: SlimPickens on December 30, 2005, 08:22:15 am
people think too much about the politics that surround music.  If it contributes to great music coming out of your speakers, then don\'t think twice cause it\'s alright
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: bonzo on December 30, 2005, 03:59:01 am
it will be alsome if phish gets back together
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: RobdogUk on December 24, 2005, 08:30:33 am
Quote from: boombox
I have to admit that I would be first in line of they played over here - but then again, I never got the chance to see them. From recordings I have, they were never as good post hiatus, but I\'d take that chance.

Hey there, haven\'t seen you around lately. Hope everything\'s ok with you. I tend to lurk most days than post myself as it is but I hope you\'re well.


Anyway...

I for one woud love to see it happen and I will be on a plane to see them play if it does happen. HOWEVER..... I\'m not gonna get my hopes up.
If they do come back or even if they are just thinking about it I have my theories as to why they might want to do it so soon after the break-up.

I always thought that, although I have only seen two shows (or do you count coventry as two seperate shows?) in which in case it would be three, that the split was a little out of the blue and somewhat a knee jerk reaction to the fact that the post hiatus shows were not going as smoothly as they had hoped. There are several reasons for that which have been discussed at great length so I won\'t go into them again. Maybe they felt that it was the only way to clear their heads and that another hiatus wouldn\'t do it. Maybe they began to feel the hiatus should have lasted longer...who knows for sure?

But if the decision is made to come back I can\'t help but feel that they\'ve realised their problems did not lie with the band itself and everything that goes along with that and their personal problems, whatever they may be, could not be solved by splitting up. It may have only been a year but it\'s long enough for some serious introspection. It could be simply that they\'ve solved their problems and have come to the realisation that they might have made a mistake. They are only human after all.


I totally respect the opinions of the older Phish fan who has seen first hand how the scene has changed. I\'m completely disconnected from it over here but these were just my first poderings when I heard about the rumours.
I only wonder how many people would be calling for Phish to quit if they had not split last year. If they return then not only will I be there (girlfriend in tow. She has been warned) but I\'ll applaud what would no doubt be a very brave and risky decision for them to make. I\'m not at all of the belief that this  would purely be a monetary decision because I believe they are better than that. Even if some members were having financial difficulties I don\'t think for a second they would sully their own and everyone elses memory by plundering their music for financial gain. Touring, playing, \'practicing\'...ahem....would ultimately stress things out further for themselves.
Call me nieve if you will but I don\'t believe it. If I\'m wrong and they were to come back for these reasons then they would still be plaugued by the same problems they claimed they needed to split for.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Spacey on December 15, 2005, 03:03:10 pm
no ****.

hmm...
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: TerryOB on December 15, 2005, 03:01:09 pm
Quote from: Spacey
Quote from: TerryOB
Trey will be playing MSG on NYE this year


is this fact or fiction?


fact

an announcement will be made later today


my morning jacket had to back out so Trey took their spot


line up looks like this:


North Mississippi Allstars

Trey

Black Crowes
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Spacey on December 15, 2005, 02:52:26 pm
Quote from: TerryOB
Trey will be playing MSG on NYE this year


is this fact or fiction?
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: TerryOB on December 15, 2005, 02:49:49 pm
Trey will be playing MSG on NYE this year

Quote from: Gordo
heres an interesting article i just came across. not sure if you guys have seen it, but it answers a bunch of questions in this thread, to some extent at least.

In a new light
Trey Anastasio speaks of his new album, \'Shine,\' and how drugs drove Phish apart  
 
By BOB MARGOLIS, Special to the Times Union
First published: Thursday, November 17, 2005  
TREY ANASTASIO with Grace Potter & The Nocturnals
When: 7 p.m. Friday
Where: Palace Theatre, 19 Clinton Ave., Albany
Tickets: $38
Info: 476-1000  

life as the frontman of Phish -- a band that became almost synonymous with a certain laid-back aesthetic -- Trey Anastasio has a bear of a time taking a vacation.
His peripatetic style can lead him to get ahead of himself. Anastasio admits he unveiled his new band, dubbed 70 Volt Parade, a bit too early; he likens their first gig, on April Fools\' Day in Phish\'s hometown of Burlington, Vt., to Chad Pennington returning to the Jets too quickly.
"I made so many changes simultaneously. ... I had gotten together with a lot of new people, and the feeling of those folks was \'Just go out and play.\' But I didn\'t have it together yet," Anastasio said in a wide-ranging phone interview last week. "(The Burlington show) was the only time that I went on stage feeling like what I was doing had not developed into something unique yet. I mean, Phish was still dismantling -- so playing with new people was too early for certain people who were bent out of shape."
By "certain people" he includes the legions of die-hard Phish fans still reeling more than a year after the band\'s farewell blowout in Coventry, Vt. Anastasio still feels their disappointment, and the heft of the questions that still linger about the reasons behind the band\'s breakup after more than a decade as one of the nation\'s most popular live acts.
"I ... care about those people; I\'ve got myself in a situation where I want them to be happy," Anastasio said. "That\'s so much of what Phish was. It was our job from the stage with the music, with the thinking of all the ideas and crazy things -- \'Hey, let\'s do "Dark Side of the Moon" the night after Halloween!\' -- all of that was nurturing a community."
One-man affair
As if in response to the weight of expectations, the cover of Anastasio\'s new record, "Shine," shows him looking up to the sky jubilantly, Languedoc guitar held high.
The disc is very much a one-man affair, presenting Anastasio as solo songwriter for the first time in his career. As opposed to Phish\'s free-form, almost jazz-based rock, the tunes on "Shine" are heavier in nature -- Jerry G. meets Ozzie O.
On Friday, Anastasio brings 70 Volt Parade -- featuring guitarist-keyboardist Les Hall, bassist Tony Hall, drummer Skeeter Valdez, keyboardist Ray Paczkowski and vocalists Jennifer Hartswick and Christina Durfee -- to Albany\'s Palace Theatre for a gig that will showcase new material and more than a few cherished older tunes.
Phish fans will have a field day combing through the lyric sheet of "Shine" looking for lines like "This time, what are you waiting for? Is it your time to walk away?" (from "Invisible"). The songwriter cautions them not to be too literal.
"Sure, in some parts those tunes are about leaving Phish, but it goes deeper," Anastasio said. "I didn\'t even know until a few gigs ago what some of these lines were really about." He points to another new song, "Comes a Melody," a tune that Anastasio says is about "leaving my ragged-ass self and becoming a human being again."
Drug role

But what was it that made Anastasio feel un-human? It\'s at this point that he sees fit to address what\'s become the elephant in the middle of any discussion of Phish\'s breakup: the role that drugs played in the band\'s final years, and in Anastasio\'s decision to call for its end.
It\'s a subject that was conspicuous by its absence in the period immediately after the band\'s breakup announcement in May 2004. While fatigue was generally seen as the culprit, few fans were willing to chalk it up to anything more than artistic torpor or mundane road-weariness.
"I thought it went without saying how deep into our scene hard drugs had gone," said Anastasio. (Despite his new frankness on the subject, he still resists getting into the specifics of who was doing what, and how much.)
"That\'s why I was surprised at people saying, \'How could you do this?\' How could I not do this? What\'s the alternative here? I always thought our scene was so transparent, that everybody knew everything. That\'s why it was hard to hear the anger and frustration from Phish fans."
"I just want to say to them: I love Phish, too. But because of what was happening to Phish and happening to me, the decisions came from a place of love and respect for the same thing that you all loved and respected. That same light was going out pretty damned fast."
"We got through the \'80s and \'90s without encountering hard drugs -- which is pretty miraculous considering what those eras were like -- and it is a testament to the guys in the band, in how intent we were from keeping those type of drugs away.
"Once we let our guard down around 1998, the scene started to eat itself and there was a massive loss of perspective. ... The whole thing was being crushed under its own weight. The germ of the thing -- that feeling between the four of us -- is still there, but we were getting unhealthy and tired," he said.
Even worse
The band went on hiatus in the fall of 2000, and didn\'t return to the road until the end of 2002. "We came back and it was even worse," Anastasio said.
After the breakup announcement, the summer 2004 tour seemed to encapsulate everything that was right and wrong with Phish; both tendencies came to a head in the hideous weather, epic traffic snarls and often frenzied music of the band\'s weekend-long August farewell on farmland outside of Coventry, Vt.
"For Coventry, our guest list was between 2,500 and 3,000 people," Anastasio said. "It was like a nightmare backstage -- very dark. But still, it was great to be onstage with my friends," Anastasio said.
When it was all over, "I went to Bermuda and slept for a week," he said. "I needed to get healthy, which I am now."
After a few attempts at putting together a new post-Phish touring unit, Anastasio enlisted the help of producer Brendan O\'Brien, best known for his work with Rage Against the Machine, Pearl Jam and, more recently, Bruce Springsteen.
"I need to do this alone," Anastasio said of the recording of "Shine" this spring. "That\'s why I didn\'t bring my band. I needed to get on a plane with just a backpack and sit in a hotel room with my guitar. The first thing Brendan said was to sit down and play the songs on the guitar straight."
No break
On this tour, Anastasio doesn\'t take a set break. Instead, his bandmates depart and leave him on stage to play a number of tunes without accompaniment. It\'s during this segment that Anastasio has been playing a wide variety of Phish songs and Phish-associated cover tunes.
"Each night, I go out and think of a few songs I haven\'t played in a while and play them on the acoustic without the whole arrangement -- like \'AC/DC Bag,\' \'Sample in a Jar\' and so on," he said.
Anastasio seems keenly aware of his new status as a member of a famously defunct band. It\'s a big club, though not always a happy one.
He recently participated in a tribute to Jerry Garcia at the Greek Theatre in Berkeley, Calif., where he chatted backstage with Garcia\'s ex-wife, the legendary Mountain Girl, and Grateful Dead drummer Bill Kreutzman. As they were talking about Garcia, "Kreutzman just blurted out, \'I love that guy,\' Anastasio recalled. "I loved that."
But he noticed as well that Dead bassist Phil Lesh wasn\'t there, because of a long-standing feud with guitarist Bob Weir. Anastasio also recently did a tour with former Police drummer Stewart Copeland, "and he was not on the phone with Sting."
Together again?
In comparison, Anastasio\'s relationships with his former bandmates -- Jon Fishman, Page McConnell and Mike Gordon -- are downright collegial. All of them have joined Anastasio on stage during this tour -- though not all at the same time.
"I was on the phone with Mike, Page and Fish this morning," said Anastasio, who lives outside Burlington with his wife and two daughters. "They are healthy and wonderful. Everybody has had our run-ins with the dark side, but we muddled through. And the option is still there."
"Those stories can have different endings pretty quickly," Anastasio said. "Everybody just needs to get their feet back on the ground. ... My dream would be that everybody gets to a place where their own lives outside of this, that all four of us are standing on our own two feet.
"And then who knows? Maybe we could all play together again. I\'d love it."


I\'m actually friends with the guy who wrote that.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Gordo on December 14, 2005, 03:20:21 am
heres an interesting article i just came across. not sure if you guys have seen it, but it answers a bunch of questions in this thread, to some extent at least.

In a new light
Trey Anastasio speaks of his new album, \'Shine,\' and how drugs drove Phish apart  
 
By BOB MARGOLIS, Special to the Times Union
First published: Thursday, November 17, 2005  
TREY ANASTASIO with Grace Potter & The Nocturnals
When: 7 p.m. Friday
Where: Palace Theatre, 19 Clinton Ave., Albany
Tickets: $38
Info: 476-1000  

life as the frontman of Phish -- a band that became almost synonymous with a certain laid-back aesthetic -- Trey Anastasio has a bear of a time taking a vacation.
His peripatetic style can lead him to get ahead of himself. Anastasio admits he unveiled his new band, dubbed 70 Volt Parade, a bit too early; he likens their first gig, on April Fools\' Day in Phish\'s hometown of Burlington, Vt., to Chad Pennington returning to the Jets too quickly.
"I made so many changes simultaneously. ... I had gotten together with a lot of new people, and the feeling of those folks was \'Just go out and play.\' But I didn\'t have it together yet," Anastasio said in a wide-ranging phone interview last week. "(The Burlington show) was the only time that I went on stage feeling like what I was doing had not developed into something unique yet. I mean, Phish was still dismantling -- so playing with new people was too early for certain people who were bent out of shape."
By "certain people" he includes the legions of die-hard Phish fans still reeling more than a year after the band\'s farewell blowout in Coventry, Vt. Anastasio still feels their disappointment, and the heft of the questions that still linger about the reasons behind the band\'s breakup after more than a decade as one of the nation\'s most popular live acts.
"I ... care about those people; I\'ve got myself in a situation where I want them to be happy," Anastasio said. "That\'s so much of what Phish was. It was our job from the stage with the music, with the thinking of all the ideas and crazy things -- \'Hey, let\'s do "Dark Side of the Moon" the night after Halloween!\' -- all of that was nurturing a community."
One-man affair
As if in response to the weight of expectations, the cover of Anastasio\'s new record, "Shine," shows him looking up to the sky jubilantly, Languedoc guitar held high.
The disc is very much a one-man affair, presenting Anastasio as solo songwriter for the first time in his career. As opposed to Phish\'s free-form, almost jazz-based rock, the tunes on "Shine" are heavier in nature -- Jerry G. meets Ozzie O.
On Friday, Anastasio brings 70 Volt Parade -- featuring guitarist-keyboardist Les Hall, bassist Tony Hall, drummer Skeeter Valdez, keyboardist Ray Paczkowski and vocalists Jennifer Hartswick and Christina Durfee -- to Albany\'s Palace Theatre for a gig that will showcase new material and more than a few cherished older tunes.
Phish fans will have a field day combing through the lyric sheet of "Shine" looking for lines like "This time, what are you waiting for? Is it your time to walk away?" (from "Invisible"). The songwriter cautions them not to be too literal.
"Sure, in some parts those tunes are about leaving Phish, but it goes deeper," Anastasio said. "I didn\'t even know until a few gigs ago what some of these lines were really about." He points to another new song, "Comes a Melody," a tune that Anastasio says is about "leaving my ragged-ass self and becoming a human being again."
Drug role

But what was it that made Anastasio feel un-human? It\'s at this point that he sees fit to address what\'s become the elephant in the middle of any discussion of Phish\'s breakup: the role that drugs played in the band\'s final years, and in Anastasio\'s decision to call for its end.
It\'s a subject that was conspicuous by its absence in the period immediately after the band\'s breakup announcement in May 2004. While fatigue was generally seen as the culprit, few fans were willing to chalk it up to anything more than artistic torpor or mundane road-weariness.
"I thought it went without saying how deep into our scene hard drugs had gone," said Anastasio. (Despite his new frankness on the subject, he still resists getting into the specifics of who was doing what, and how much.)
"That\'s why I was surprised at people saying, \'How could you do this?\' How could I not do this? What\'s the alternative here? I always thought our scene was so transparent, that everybody knew everything. That\'s why it was hard to hear the anger and frustration from Phish fans."
"I just want to say to them: I love Phish, too. But because of what was happening to Phish and happening to me, the decisions came from a place of love and respect for the same thing that you all loved and respected. That same light was going out pretty damned fast."
"We got through the \'80s and \'90s without encountering hard drugs -- which is pretty miraculous considering what those eras were like -- and it is a testament to the guys in the band, in how intent we were from keeping those type of drugs away.
"Once we let our guard down around 1998, the scene started to eat itself and there was a massive loss of perspective. ... The whole thing was being crushed under its own weight. The germ of the thing -- that feeling between the four of us -- is still there, but we were getting unhealthy and tired," he said.
Even worse
The band went on hiatus in the fall of 2000, and didn\'t return to the road until the end of 2002. "We came back and it was even worse," Anastasio said.
After the breakup announcement, the summer 2004 tour seemed to encapsulate everything that was right and wrong with Phish; both tendencies came to a head in the hideous weather, epic traffic snarls and often frenzied music of the band\'s weekend-long August farewell on farmland outside of Coventry, Vt.
"For Coventry, our guest list was between 2,500 and 3,000 people," Anastasio said. "It was like a nightmare backstage -- very dark. But still, it was great to be onstage with my friends," Anastasio said.
When it was all over, "I went to Bermuda and slept for a week," he said. "I needed to get healthy, which I am now."
After a few attempts at putting together a new post-Phish touring unit, Anastasio enlisted the help of producer Brendan O\'Brien, best known for his work with Rage Against the Machine, Pearl Jam and, more recently, Bruce Springsteen.
"I need to do this alone," Anastasio said of the recording of "Shine" this spring. "That\'s why I didn\'t bring my band. I needed to get on a plane with just a backpack and sit in a hotel room with my guitar. The first thing Brendan said was to sit down and play the songs on the guitar straight."
No break
On this tour, Anastasio doesn\'t take a set break. Instead, his bandmates depart and leave him on stage to play a number of tunes without accompaniment. It\'s during this segment that Anastasio has been playing a wide variety of Phish songs and Phish-associated cover tunes.
"Each night, I go out and think of a few songs I haven\'t played in a while and play them on the acoustic without the whole arrangement -- like \'AC/DC Bag,\' \'Sample in a Jar\' and so on," he said.
Anastasio seems keenly aware of his new status as a member of a famously defunct band. It\'s a big club, though not always a happy one.
He recently participated in a tribute to Jerry Garcia at the Greek Theatre in Berkeley, Calif., where he chatted backstage with Garcia\'s ex-wife, the legendary Mountain Girl, and Grateful Dead drummer Bill Kreutzman. As they were talking about Garcia, "Kreutzman just blurted out, \'I love that guy,\' Anastasio recalled. "I loved that."
But he noticed as well that Dead bassist Phil Lesh wasn\'t there, because of a long-standing feud with guitarist Bob Weir. Anastasio also recently did a tour with former Police drummer Stewart Copeland, "and he was not on the phone with Sting."
Together again?
In comparison, Anastasio\'s relationships with his former bandmates -- Jon Fishman, Page McConnell and Mike Gordon -- are downright collegial. All of them have joined Anastasio on stage during this tour -- though not all at the same time.
"I was on the phone with Mike, Page and Fish this morning," said Anastasio, who lives outside Burlington with his wife and two daughters. "They are healthy and wonderful. Everybody has had our run-ins with the dark side, but we muddled through. And the option is still there."
"Those stories can have different endings pretty quickly," Anastasio said. "Everybody just needs to get their feet back on the ground. ... My dream would be that everybody gets to a place where their own lives outside of this, that all four of us are standing on our own two feet.
"And then who knows? Maybe we could all play together again. I\'d love it."
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Stephengencs on December 13, 2005, 10:57:41 pm
I would love to see a stadium tour some fall/summer down the road.....
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: leith on December 13, 2005, 10:54:19 pm
Quote from: ChrisF
phish will be back sooner or later. they may never go on tour again, but i dont think a festival or a run of shows is out of the question. i think thats more likely than them coming back to stay.
Oh I firmly believe Trey when he says he would love to play w/ his friends again, but I\'m not about to jump on ANY rumors.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: ChrisF on December 13, 2005, 10:49:52 pm
phish will be back sooner or later. they may never go on tour again, but i dont think a festival or a run of shows is out of the question. i think thats more likely than them coming back to stay.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: leith on December 13, 2005, 10:45:25 pm
The reason I tell people to move on is because the band has moved on. 20 years is a long time to be in a band. They are now exploring other musical outlets, why not SUPPORT their efforts now instead of telling them it\'s not worth it and get Phish back together. Seems selfish to me.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: RadicalRich1138 on December 13, 2005, 10:25:43 pm
"I love how everybody that doesn\'t think that they should come back goes right on the offensive and tells people that it sitime to move on with their lives...bull. If Phish comes back I don;t care if they play all new songs, all jams, all ABBA songs...as long as those four guys get up and get to improvise together again I will be there."

KONfirmed!

i feel the same way...
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: FindYourself... on December 13, 2005, 08:04:13 pm
i doubt theyd play a single one of the new crap trey songs if they got back together. maybe theyd have some new crap songs, but not "low" and "shine." not in a million years. half of those songs are about phish breaking up anyway.

post hiatus was better than people give it credit for. my first show 2.28.03 was nuts. almost every one of my 14 shows was totally awesome.

i think some people in the band had or have substance problems and i think theyll return if they can curb the hard ****.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: WALSH on December 13, 2005, 07:40:43 pm
I had an absolute blast at Coventry and although the music wasn\'t the best it could have been, I wouldn\'t change it for the world.  

I am not attacking anyone personally with this but I keep hearing the same BULLSHIT about moving on.  This is just music, really good music and why the hell should anyone have to move on???  If all people are talking about is the "scene", than that is rediculous...who the **** cares about the scene???  I for one could care less about their legacy being tarnished if "old-school" fans do not feel that it is as good as the early years...there are alot of people who do think that after hiatus was good...and I for one think that if they had played full tours that they would have been back for real.  The shows played after hiatus were much better than most of what went down in \'99 and \'00.  If half of the people that were complaining took a second to listen rather than hoping for a "Forbin\'s->Mockingbird" or a "Fluffhead", they might have heard the band taking chances that they hadn\'t taken since at the very least Fall \'98.  Sure some of them fell flat, but that is the beauty of what Phish was all about and what fans used to be about.  

I love how everybody that doesn\'t think that they should come back goes right on the offensive and tells people that it sitime to move on with their lives...bull.  If Phish comes back I don;t care if they play all new songs, all jams, all ABBA songs...as long as those four guys get up and get to improvise together again I will be there.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: antbach on December 13, 2005, 06:33:33 pm
Quote from: Wolfman
Quote from: RadicalRich1138
oh and 12 shows so wolfman i am in your brakcet of <15, but i\'m 23, not 22

Well, you get the idea.  The age and number of shows seen for the desperate fans is not in itself important, I just think that the vast majority of desperate fans happen to fall between ages 16 and 22 and have seen less than 15 shows.  What\'s important is the extent of their desperation.  This desperation will once again lead to absurd ticket prices, overcrowding, general hostility, and too many people around who are more concerned with what it\'s like to live on the road doing drugs than listening to music.  Knowing that the band will not be as good as they were, I\'m not sure I\'m ready to put up with all of this again.

I\'m 24 and i think at less than 15, but i\'m in wolfman\'s mindset on this. I went, i had a blast, i enjoyed it, it ended, oh well, time to move on. I am still so happy I didn\'t ebay a coventry ticket and saved myself hours of frustration and a good deal of money by going to Hoyt\'s, just sucks for those who had to drive all the way back and watch in the theatre too ;) coughdavecough
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Spacey on December 13, 2005, 05:47:48 pm
truth to all that has been said.

and I have read numerous articles, interviews on Trey and he has repeatedly said that 70 Volt Parade is the beginning.

Maybe, 70 Volt put a hold on MSG?

doubtful but who knows...
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Wolfman on December 13, 2005, 05:15:06 pm
Quote from: leith
According to Trey, this (70 Volt)is his new band it is NOT a side project. Get used to it people.

Exactly.  It\'s fun to think about how interested I would be if Phish came back.  But one thing\'s for sure: I\'m not gonna believe Phish is coming back because a bunch of bored and desperate hippies on assorted drugs whipped themselves into a frenzy on their stupid message boards.
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DON\'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: aJwvof on December 13, 2005, 05:13:42 pm
seen the new band 4 times ... the last in UTICA was the best bar none. the first three times were less than ideal
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: leith on December 13, 2005, 05:08:56 pm
Quote from: WALSH
I\'ll be there and cannot wait.
I picture a bunch of lost wooks, on any of those dates.
If you want Phish songs you\'re gonna have to see Trey play them solo for the near future.
According to Trey, this (70 Volt)is his new band it is NOT a side project. Get used to it people.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: WALSH on December 13, 2005, 04:56:21 pm
I\'ll be there and cannot wait.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: weekapaug19 on December 13, 2005, 04:42:06 pm
Quote from: Wolfman
Quote from: RadicalRich1138
oh and 12 shows so wolfman i am in your brakcet of <15, but i\'m 23, not 22

Well, you get the idea.  The age and number of shows seen for the desperate fans is not in itself important, I just think that the vast majority of desperate fans happen to fall between ages 16 and 22 and have seen less than 15 shows.  What\'s important is the extent of their desperation.  This desperation will once again lead to absurd ticket prices, overcrowding, general hostility, and too many people around who are more concerned with what it\'s like to live on the road doing drugs than listening to music.  Knowing that the band will not be as good as they were, I\'m not sure I\'m ready to put up with all of this again.

well said
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Wolfman on December 13, 2005, 04:25:14 pm
Quote from: RadicalRich1138
oh and 12 shows so wolfman i am in your brakcet of <15, but i\'m 23, not 22

Well, you get the idea.  The age and number of shows seen for the desperate fans is not in itself important, I just think that the vast majority of desperate fans happen to fall between ages 16 and 22 and have seen less than 15 shows.  What\'s important is the extent of their desperation.  This desperation will once again lead to absurd ticket prices, overcrowding, general hostility, and too many people around who are more concerned with what it\'s like to live on the road doing drugs than listening to music.  Knowing that the band will not be as good as they were, I\'m not sure I\'m ready to put up with all of this again.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: ChrisPitch on December 13, 2005, 01:48:14 pm
I can\'t wait for when Phish comes back and opens with a 20-minute version of Hotel California
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Mark on December 13, 2005, 01:39:06 pm
Quote from: Mamalakabubadaya
Quote from: davepeck
MRFMTD

Maybe Rich Farts More Than Dave...
not likely..
It\'s not the quantity, it\'s the quality!
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: RadicalRich1138 on December 13, 2005, 01:35:54 pm
i only saw them post hiatus... though i have lots of tapes...there are certain things i feel that if it was better than that before hiatus i feel screwed, but 2.28.03 tweexer 7.31.03 hood, IT, 12/2/03 (Rock and Roll>Weekapaug>Tweeprise>Frank>Kung>Stien)

man, please come back

oh and 12 shows so wolfman i am in your brakcet of <15, but i\'m 23, not 22
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Post by: boombox on December 13, 2005, 01:30:57 pm
I have to admit that I would be first in line of they played over here - but then again, I never got the chance to see them. From recordings I have, they were never as good post hiatus, but I\'d take that chance.
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Post by: Wolfman on December 13, 2005, 12:54:56 pm
As big a Phish fan as I was/am, I\'m not sure how excited I\'d be about the next round of Phish shows.  I find it interesting asking myself how much I would be into it at this point.  I know they\'ll never be as good as they were when I started seeing them or as good as they were on all the live recordings I listen to.  Tickets will be 3-5X face value again.  Half the show will be Trey\'s new pretty little dittys with a few legitimate Phish tunes mixed in, just like Summer \'04.  The whole scene will be 16-22 year-olds who got too little, too late and are just trying to get a taste of The Great Phish Phenomenon.  There\'s nothing wrong with these people and I don\'t blame them one bit for being so eager to get back into it.  I\'d be desperate too if I were this big a fan and had only seen 15 or fewer shows.  However, I feel that the audience\'s motivations are rooted in desperation, which ultimately leads to stress and even hostility.  Couple that with the band\'s questionable motivations and it all leads up to some very suspect shows.

I would almost certainly hit up "mail-order" and Ticketmaster on-sale for shows in my area, but as soon as I got shut out of those (which is a certainty this point) I would not go hitting up websites for $150 tickets.  I think I may be satisfied to simply consider myself lucky to have seen the shows I did.  I don\'t need anymore.
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Post by: jking on December 13, 2005, 12:48:33 pm
Quote
It is hard not to enjoy yourself at a Phish show.

unless you\'re listening to trey...

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Post by: RadicalRich1138 on December 13, 2005, 11:50:08 am
WHEN they come back i won\'t expect greatness, but i will witness it... they are obviously coming back because they never played the connection live, duh...

if you don\'t want to see them great, easier to get tickets...and

More Room For Me To Dance
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Post by: Spacey on December 13, 2005, 11:19:10 am
Quote from: obsession600
Quote from: Spacey
I think there is a potion of "fans"
Somebody has been watching too much Harry Potter.


:lol:

I wouldn\'t waste my time with that movie. Just not my cup of tea.
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Post by: obsession600 on December 13, 2005, 10:46:03 am
Quote from: Spacey
I think there is a potion of "fans"
Somebody has been watching too much Harry Potter.

MRFMTD = My Real Friends Might Totally Disagree
or My Roommate Feels My Testicles Daily

MRFM2D = PT jargon

If they come back I will go watch. I won\'t expect greatness but I do know I will have a good time. It is hard not to enjoy yourself at a Phish show.
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Post by: Spacey on December 13, 2005, 09:46:53 am
It\'s not like Phish is going to come back and play like they did in the 90\'s. They are going to come back and play all the songs that never made it in before they split and on top of that, they will probably play songs that Trey has written for the other band.

I think there is a potion of "fans" who have never seen a show or saw a few shows after the hiatius and crave for the band to come back because they never had the opportunity to see the band.

Phish isn\'t going to comeback the same.
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Post by: davepeck on December 13, 2005, 08:49:11 am
was wondering who was gonna be the one to call me out on that...
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Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on December 13, 2005, 08:44:41 am
Quote from: davepeck
MRFMTD

Maybe Rich Farts More Than Dave...
not likely..
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: davepeck on December 13, 2005, 08:43:19 am
MRFMTD

Maybe Rich Farts More Than Dave...
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: SlimPickens on December 13, 2005, 08:39:26 am
that would be awesome.  it would seem that as long as they could keep the entourage free of the poisons that doomed them in the past they could be together for some time.
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Post by: weekapaug19 on December 13, 2005, 08:35:53 am
they will be back together soon, their is too much $$ to be made for them to not be playing together.....and i will be their
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Post by: SlimPickens on December 13, 2005, 08:29:56 am
MRFMTD
Memory rarely finds moments to distract??
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Post by: davepeck on December 13, 2005, 08:09:57 am
Quote from: RadicalRich1138
MRFMTD

:hscratch: My Retarded Friend Might Tap Dance??
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Post by: RadicalRich1138 on December 13, 2005, 07:55:34 am
anyone who would be upset if they come back should really get thier head out of thier ass, or just not buy tickets when they do, MRFMTD
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: FrankZappa on December 13, 2005, 07:31:43 am
Quote from: boombox
A phish reunion would be too early - they\'ll be getting a reputation like the Who\'s at this rate - endless "final" tours. Still, it would be cool...

or kiss.. both broke up in 72/73, both still touring every now and then.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Wolfman on December 13, 2005, 12:11:59 am
Quote from: RadicalRich1138
"it was also rumored that they had those same dates and place on hold last year..."

NOT TRUE...before they broke up they had MSG Halloween 04, that would have been great and never happened, these are all new holds, 2 nights warming up @ MSG for halloween in Philly....

they booked the holds under the name JEMP...

these rumors do come along alot, but this is confirmed by multiple people, not that the show will happen, but that holds are indeed @ msg and philly

and i dont care what you people say phish coming back would be great, trey is playing lights out right now...

So I take it you\'re in regular phone contact with John Paluska?

Hate to break it to ya, but I signed onto 8 different message boards toady, sometimes 3 handles per board, and "confirmed" all of my own rumours all over the place.

OK, no I didn\'t, but now that I thought of it...
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: shadygroove on December 12, 2005, 10:23:42 pm
The sooner the better, it\'s never too early to raise spirits. If they\'re down... I\'m down. Why wait? Someday we\'ll all be gone and wishing we could have caught a few more Phish tours in our day.
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Post by: FindYourself... on December 12, 2005, 08:21:37 pm
they get back together, im there. period.
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Post by: Spacey on December 12, 2005, 08:01:06 pm
^^^ exactly what I was thinkinh.
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Post by: boombox on December 12, 2005, 07:46:45 pm
A phish reunion would be too early - they\'ll be getting a reputation like the Who\'s at this rate - endless "final" tours. Still, it would be cool...
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Me! on December 12, 2005, 04:50:11 pm
Quote from: Mark
Roger Clemens will be sitting in on bass.
rotfl:lol:rotfl
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Post by: Gordo on December 12, 2005, 04:46:12 pm
T.O. on lead vocals?

i heard it, alright. i heard it.
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Post by: Jim Cobb on December 12, 2005, 04:43:02 pm
ummm trey hasn\'t been sober for that long.  i know people who saw him gettin his drink on earlier this past spring/summer.  he may be off the hard drugs, which is great, but calling him sober would be inaccurate.

as far as a phish reunion, that\'d be cool.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Mark on December 12, 2005, 04:42:57 pm
Roger Clemens will be sitting in on bass.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: crimsonknuckles on December 12, 2005, 04:41:01 pm
it is true and for halloween they will be playing "duece".
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: jking on December 12, 2005, 04:36:05 pm
fair enough. but i\'m still not holding my breath.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: RadicalRich1138 on December 12, 2005, 04:19:52 pm
"it was also rumored that they had those same dates and place on hold last year..."

NOT TRUE...before they broke up they had MSG Halloween 04, that would have been great and never happened, these are all new holds, 2 nights warming up @ MSG for halloween in Philly....

they booked the holds under the name JEMP...

these rumors do come along alot, but this is confirmed by multiple people, not that the show will happen, but that holds are indeed @ msg and philly

and i dont care what you people say phish coming back would be great, trey is playing lights out right now...
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: plainandsimple on December 12, 2005, 04:01:41 pm
Phish reunion would be a zoo of a time.............
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Post by: jking on December 12, 2005, 03:59:57 pm
sacey, mike\'s been gigging/recording fairly often since the break up, but you\'re right about page and fishman. frankly, if trey is able to stay sober for a year or two, i\'d believe that they\'d give it a comeback shot, but no time before that, if then.
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: aJwvof on December 12, 2005, 03:57:50 pm
seeing is believing but why would the music suffer ... trey looks and sounds healthier than ever and i would hope they would be out there practicing and getting ready for it both msucailly and more importantly mentally
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Post by: Spacey on December 12, 2005, 03:29:16 pm
Agreed.

A Phish reunion right now would be stupid and uncalled for. Besides it\'ll probably ruin their legacy. I love the band but I don\'t want to see this stupid **** rumored. If they comeback so soon, why did they ever break up?

They should have continued to play 20 shows a year, summer, NYE, Halloween and Festivals.
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Post by: Gordo on December 12, 2005, 03:26:45 pm
dude, they better wait at least 5 five years or so before they come back. hiatus for 2 1/2, and reunion after 2?!?! the longer they hold out the true-er a comeback would be. itd be way too forced if they did it soon, and the music would suffer again. let it roll for a long while and hook up when they all feel right.
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Post by: Spacey on December 12, 2005, 03:23:10 pm
These rumors are the same every year. Phish is playing MSG during Halloween. I\'ll believe it when I have an MSG ticket in my hand and the lights go down for the first time since Coventry.

Trey is probably getting pressured by the other members of the band because they have no other source of income at the moment.
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Post by: Gordo on December 12, 2005, 03:21:21 pm
Quote from: Me!
come on.   I fuckin hope not, not that i wouldn\'t go see phish again but, what has it been 2years?  give me a break guy what are you trey a woman make up your mind dude
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Post by: Wolfman on December 12, 2005, 03:05:43 pm
CONFIRMED: Phish has been practicing and are aiming to return at MSG on 10/27/06.  The hold is good through July 1st, so the band must decide by then if they will be ready to play on 10/26.

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: Me! on December 12, 2005, 02:44:32 pm
come on.   I fuckin hope not, not that i wouldn\'t go see phish again but, what has it been 2years?  give me a break guy what are you trey a woman make up your mind dude
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: obsession600 on December 12, 2005, 02:43:31 pm
Somebody forgot to cancel the holds when they cancelled the band.
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Post by: jking on December 12, 2005, 02:38:02 pm
it was also rumored that they had those same dates and place on hold last year...
Title: Phish rumors. I believe...
Post by: WALSH on December 12, 2005, 02:29:40 pm
So many of you have heard \'em.

Dyonisian Productions has a "hold" on MSG for 10/27/06 & 10/28/06 AND the Spectrum in Philly for 10/31/06.

I hope this is true and I also hope that the rumors of the Summer Tour \'06 are true...DISCUSS!!!