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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: JPorter on November 11, 2005, 12:33:12 am


Title: Just DL\'ed my first show on my computer
Post by: kindm's on November 11, 2005, 10:33:06 am
Quote from: Klout
i believe vbr mp3 is equal digital quality to flac/shn if it stays compressed on your ipod or computer. its when you uncompress it that you start losing sound quality....correct?


wrong.

The compression happens at the time of encoding. So the inforamtion is lost at the point of encoding the VBR mp3 or any mp3 or lossy format for that matter
Title: Just DL\'ed my first show on my computer
Post by: Klout on November 11, 2005, 03:11:01 am
i believe vbr mp3 is equal digital quality to flac/shn if it stays compressed on your ipod or computer. its when you uncompress it that you start losing sound quality....correct?
Title: Just DL\'ed my first show on my computer
Post by: boombox on November 11, 2005, 02:48:36 am
Quote from: alexanderzurflu
Quote from: obsession600
what format did you download? mp3 or FLAC/SHN?

I am only asking since if it is in iTunes then it has to be mp3 or WAV/AIFF that you have already decompressed. If it is WAV/AIFF then burn when ready, if it is mp3 then download the lossless version before you burn to disk.
To convert from FLAC/SHN to WAV/AIFF use xAct if you are on a mac.
click here to download (http://macupdate.com/download.php/14246/xACT1.5b3.dmg.tar.gz)

What is the difference between 64KbpsMP3 and VBR MP3?  I generally download VBR MP3 files on Archive, though I have no idea If that is a good choice.

Simple summary from what I know:

64K MP3 = VERY lossy format - generally only suitable for putting in a cheap Mp3 player small hard disc, or for sampling a show to see if it\'s worth downloading

VBR = Variable Bit Rate MP3 - way better than 64K. Generally speaking, the mp3 is encoded according to what is needed so less data is used for parts of the track with less information eg silences. Fine for i-pods, mp3 CDs, etc or for burning a disc which you will only listen to in the average car stereo.

FLAC/SHN = only format worth downloading to get the full sonic experience!!! Files are compressed in such a way that none of the original signal is lost. This is the only format to use for burning discs you trade or want to give to friends!

Try burning a CD-RW (you\'ll want to get rid of it afterwards) with the same track burned using the three formats. Listen to the disc on a decent stereo and you will notice the difference.
Title: Just DL\'ed my first show on my computer
Post by: skalnbyc on November 11, 2005, 01:32:42 am
Quote from: obsession600
what format did you download? mp3 or FLAC/SHN?

I am only asking since if it is in iTunes then it has to be mp3 or WAV/AIFF that you have already decompressed. If it is WAV/AIFF then burn when ready, if it is mp3 then download the lossless version before you burn to disk.
To convert from FLAC/SHN to WAV/AIFF use xAct if you are on a mac.
click here to download (http://macupdate.com/download.php/14246/xACT1.5b3.dmg.tar.gz)

What is the difference between 64KbpsMP3 and VBR MP3?  I generally download VBR MP3 files on Archive, though I have no idea If that is a good choice.
Title: Just DL\'ed my first show on my computer
Post by: obsession600 on November 11, 2005, 01:18:36 am
what format did you download? mp3 or FLAC/SHN?

I am only asking since if it is in iTunes then it has to be mp3 or WAV/AIFF that you have already decompressed. If it is WAV/AIFF then burn when ready, if it is mp3 then download the lossless version before you burn to disk.
To convert from FLAC/SHN to WAV/AIFF use xAct if you are on a mac.
click here to download (http://macupdate.com/download.php/14246/xACT1.5b3.dmg.tar.gz)
Title: Just DL\'ed my first show on my computer
Post by: JPorter on November 11, 2005, 01:02:21 am
yeah i was.  it was a really solid show for sure.  highlights for me were:

really solid jam in beef barley
PBB>AtSD>Psygn>Tom Sawyer
highlight for me was definately May Fly Dissaray(SER, SER)
cool to hear Eppy 3

Hey freddie, the show is in my itunes, can\'t i just burn straight to disc from there?  if not, where do i get the software to convert to wav?  etree?
Title: Just DL\'ed my first show on my computer
Post by: Gordo on November 11, 2005, 12:56:01 am
hey porter, i see youre from chicago.. i assume you were there last night......
Title: Just DL\'ed my first show on my computer
Post by: stabmasterarson on November 11, 2005, 12:51:22 am
finally got cable about a month ago. it was a bit intimidating, last time i burned anything it was in .shn, freddy showed me the way with flac frontend, blackieshamps walked me thru it, got at least ten shows burned and a bunch more on the hd.
Title: Just DL\'ed my first show on my computer
Post by: Gordo on November 11, 2005, 12:38:22 am
exciting moment.. my first download was a big step in life.
Title: Just DL\'ed my first show on my computer
Post by: freddiewaht on November 11, 2005, 12:38:03 am
Quote from: JPorter
I\'m a newb when it comes to DL\'ing shows and in fact am quite intimidated by it all.  However I am listening to my freshie DL of the stellar Camp Creek show circa 2001.  Straight up this show is filthy!!!  Ser filth!!!

now convert to wav and you can burn it..
Title: Just DL\'ed my first show on my computer
Post by: JPorter on November 11, 2005, 12:33:12 am
I\'m a newb when it comes to DL\'ing shows and in fact am quite intimidated by it all.  However I am listening to my freshie DL of the stellar Camp Creek show circa 2001.  Straight up this show is filthy!!!  Ser filth!!!