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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: dawgmusic on October 30, 2005, 10:53:24 am
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lol... I\'m really sorry, YoMa - just wanted a reason to use that smilie...I\'m not trying to start a war... I was just havin\' some fun while home alone instead of @ the Websta w/ u all :(
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wow every says the same things over and over and **** over
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"No offense YoMa, but you\'re lucky that you were just forced out the door & not locked up... it\'s kids like u who give this band a bad rep."-Freespirit
your a **** freespirit its **** like you that give music a bad name so what if the kid likes to smoke in a show im sure timmy would like to also. i hate people like you. **** off
Who the **** do you think you are icculus? FS got more cred around here then you\'ll ever hope to have. Go away, you\'ve just made yourself invisible.
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wow every says the same things over and over and **** over
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"No offense YoMa, but you\'re lucky that you were just forced out the door & not locked up... it\'s kids like u who give this band a bad rep."-Freespirit
your a **** freespirit its **** like you that give music a bad name so what if the kid likes to smoke in a show im sure timmy would like to also. i hate people like you. **** off
um, yeah. pretty sure we put this to rest already...
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wow every says the same things over and over and **** over
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"No offense YoMa, but you\'re lucky that you were just forced out the door & not locked up... it\'s kids like u who give this band a bad rep."-Freespirit
your a **** freespirit its **** like you that give music a bad name so what if the kid likes to smoke in a show im sure timmy would like to also. i hate people like you. **** off
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I will never go to see a show at the Webster again. The last time I was there (either 2002 or 2003) I flew in from thousands of miles away for the show and couldn\'t even hear the freakin\' band. The sound in this place absolutely sucks, IMO. The issue with security is secondary in nature to the fact that you cannot hear a god damn thing.
I was considering a trip up there for NYE, but now... no way.... hopefully, I will get to make it up there before.
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i\'m not going to let anyone call me a tool without hearing back from me. its the way i\'ve been brought up, i guess. not looking to start fisticuffs with the guy, but i felt i needed to come back with something for my own sake.
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lol... I\'m really sorry, YoMa - just wanted a reason to use that smilie... that\'s right, I\'m a :****:
I really liked it, but it never just fits into normal conversations... hence, the reason I said no offense ;)
I\'m not trying to start a war... I was just havin\' some fun while home alone instead of @ the Websta w/ u all :(
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That is funny, the security, other than when I heard Gencs and Princess got kicked out, never came into my mind. I really think that alot of you almost look for the security or ALWAYS want to know where they are and dwell on it. Dude, I am loud, usually WASTED, and usually one of the tallest cats in the room...still have NEVER had a problem at the Webster. Is the security tough, yes. Is the sound the best, NO. Will I EVER not go to a Breakfast show because of the venue...not in your life, This band breaks their balls trying to make it while trying to have everyone have fun, and I for one would watch them under a highway overpass with cars going by and beeping at me for stumbling around in the highway.
Here is another thing, this time there was more people and the sound was not as booming...bring more people and the sound will echo even LESS! So not going is actually going to effect others good time on top of being bad for the band.
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support the band.go see the band.help the band.dont get caught doing illegal **** at shows.simple
Agreed
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im actually pretty close with a buncha the security guards,and they told me that the "hippie shows"are the worst because folks are usually drunk/beligerant,and just assume that smoking pot and openly doing drugs is the ok thing to do.keep in mind,what they take,they keep..
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This thread has gotten lame as ****. If you are doing something wrong and get kicked out then you deserved it, PERIOD.
Actually I think this is one of the better threads I\'ve seen in a long time. A lot of articulate and passionate posts. And props to everyone honest enough to say that this venue may alter their New Year\'s plans.
I think the bigger issue isn\'t whether or not the few people who got kicked out deserved it. Rather, the issue is how does the venue security make everyone in general feel, and how is the sound? Many people posting here were made to feel uncomfortable even though they weren\'t breaking any rules. That, to me, is a huge problem. The security at The Webster cruises around the entire show walking up next to everyone and looking them up and down to a nearly unprecendented extent. It\'s not fun. I\'m personally at sketch factor 0 these days, and I felt like I was being watched to make sure I was dancing properly. That\'s not fair and not fun. Security usually isn\'t on my mind at all since I don\'t do anything illegal, so for them to establish such a presence in my mind while all my focus was on the show means that they really must have been doing too much.
The sound is another thing altogether. It\'s a couple notches better than the Dying Room in Providence... which had the worst sound of all time. ChrisF is right that earplugs usually improve one\'s audio experience of the show, but not even earplugs can totally pull this place\'s sound out of the mud. Do you know why The Webster books almost exclusively **** and metal bands, with the occasional jamband sprinkled in? One reason has to be because no band with any intricacy in their sound would touch this place with a 10 foot pole. When it comes to cooking up sound Dobs is a gourmet chef, but you can\'t ask him to make filet mignon out of Spam.
The sound and the security at this venue are in the same boat; they are what they are and they will never be any better. We\'ve been going here long enough to know what we are signing up for.
I think the band is in a tough spot here. Availability, capacity, and proximity issues make The Webster a must-have room for a rock band coming out of Connecticut. The band knows that a lot of the fans aren\'t too keen on the place, but there just aren\'t any other rooms this size this close to New Haven besides Toad\'s, and they\'ve played Toad\'s 29 times so they\'re getting what they can out of that room. In a different way, the band kind of has to "suck it up" the same way we do.
In my own experience, the Webster overall hasn\'t been nearly bad enough to make me not want to go to a Breakfast show there. The Dying Room (that\'s what I call the Living Room in Providence) is the only venue that was ever bad enough to make me say "I won\'t see the Breakfast because of that venue." The Webster isn\'t nearly as bad as that place. I hope everyone will choose to deal with the Webster\'s flaws since the band kinda has to play there right now.
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waaaaaaaaaah,waaaaaaaaah,waaaaaaaaaaah.the webster sucks...the sound sucks..man,this thread makes me sick every time they play there.support the band.go see the band.help the band.dont get caught doing illegal **** at shows.simple.yoma,kick it down 12 notches to the left.godfather=jigga??
lol
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This thread has gotten lame as ****. If you are doing something wrong and get kicked out then you deserved it, PERIOD. I include myself in this statement. Trust me I have been to the Webster close to 100 times and have NEVER been kicked out...and unfortunately do illegal stuff alot. If I got kicked out it would suck but I cannot and would not be naive enough to blame the security/venue.
And let\'s be realistic, no one is running around "grabbin\' titties" at the Biscuits...that is more stereo-typical anti-Biscuits BULLSHIT! I have been to 67 Biscuits shows and my girl has been to close to 30 and that has never happened to her or near me to anyone I know.
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I can only imagine that the security for NYE will be much much worse.
Do you really think any of those clowns want to work on NYE? I know I wouldn\'t!
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i got kicked out a couple of times, im just glad the two dudes that kept kicking me out didnt call the cops, it was a little game of cat and mouse all night
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..last time i checked, i didn\'t see any pharmie slinging wookies running around grabbing girls titties at breakfast shows.
I\'m not a wookie, but I\'ll be @ the Newtown show slinging and grabbing.
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The Breakfast Rules!
The Webster Drools!
Sorry to say but after Sat night\'s experience, we will not be checking in for voluntary incarceration for NYE. Just not the atmosphere we are looking for. For us and many others to be treated the way we were is inexcusable. This makes me very sad, because there is nothing I would rather be doing than hanging with the band and you all.
And the sound of the place makes it an easy decision, hell, it\'s not like you are really experiencing a concert anyways. Oh well.
Kudos to the boys for kicking major ass Saturday, despite all the bullshit.
wow, i said the *same* thing after leaving the webster on saturday night.... i\'ve given them too much money for too much hassle.
its not just the security even. last september, i went to see the disco biscuits, and missed 3/4 of the first set waiting in line at willcall (i got there 1.5 hours *BEFORE* showtime, waited almost 3 hours in line) because they only had 1 ticket window open for a sold out show. but they still took my $9 "convience" fee.
i\'m sick of giving them my business and having a horrible time.
as far as venues go, (get ready to flame me), i think its sort of a cop-out on behalf on the breakfast. they can find places to play that make their fans happy.... they just need to look harder i think. i know absolutely nothing about booking, venues, blahhhhh but they *dont* need a venue that can hold thousands of people... sorry guys....
i really just feel atmosphere is TREMENDOUSLY important when you\'re at a show, especially this band that can thrive off of such energy. look at the puppethouse -- the fans were relaxed and having fun, the band was relaxed and having fun, and it was one of the most incredible weekends of music i\'ve ever experienced. for the sake of the MUSIC i\'m saying, find a new spot....
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So Chris are you telling me it sounds better with earplugs? Or are they filters? I am confused. If you have somethig that makes it sound better, I want\'em!
i always use earplugs. either the yellow foam kind or the ones they sell in the drug store to wear while you are sleeping. sometimes its painful to my ears not to wear them. if you only put them in deep enough so that they wont fall out of your ears it brings down the high end helps you hear more detail in the mix. but if you have never worn them before you might have done damage to your ears and the earplugs may not help at all or make it sound worse.
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^^what about 12/31 Holly?
i\'m not sure yet. i spend NYE w/ two of my best friends (pubertymonster10 and the girl in the short softcore ****) every year and will have to figure out how to persuade them into going to the show. none of us are 21 so we will be treated like scum at the webster..anyway, it\'s early, i\'ll have to wait and see what happens.
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I am not a sound expert, but it seems to me the sound could be greatly improved in there with a few alterations - maybe lower the ceiling, acoustic tiles, something. I never wear earplugs. I am sorry, but to me the sound is muddy **** in there.
sound tiles would be a nice improvement, but im sure they dont want to pay for it. maybe we should start a discussion about it on the the webster\'s forums.
if you never wear ear plugs you must be killing your ears and i dont blame you for thinking it sounds bad. it sounded a little muddy with lots of reverb, but the mix was even and i could hear everything just fine. except for adrians vocals at the beginning of lapti nek. dobz had them sounding better after a little while, but there isnt much you can do because the drum vocal mic will introduce more noise into the mix.
So Chris are you telling me it sounds better with earplugs? Or are they filters? I am confused. If you have somethig that makes it sound better, I want\'em!
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No offense YoMa, but you\'re lucky that you were just forced out the door & not locked up... it\'s kids like u who give this band a bad rep.
I\'ve never seen security hassle anybody for no reason. Maybe they hassle people for stuff that you can get away with elsewhere, but not for no reason at all. I\'ve actually never witnessed security being jerks anywhere (though I\'m sure it happens). They\'re just doing their jobs. If you want to do something illegal, you\'re taking a risk.
first of all...what REP do you speak of?? in comparison to such fanbases as say, the biscuits, the breakfast fans are complete angles..last time i checked, i didn\'t see any pharmie slinging wookies running around grabbing girls titties at breakfast shows(i\'ve seen in happen dozens of times elsewhere).
secondly, if you had fuckin read my post and used just one 1 millionth of your brain, you could have come to the assumption that i had no intentions of even smoking! (which was the case believe it or not)..you call ME a tool? you automatically label me as some degenerate who was only at the show to get high and cause trouble. next time you decide to call someone a tool because they were unfortunately thrown out of a show that they were throroughly enjoying (for the music), you can eat a bag of dicks.
you say no offense and then call me a tool?? you sir, are the tool.
Please tell me why my post was quoted... if it was a mistake, I will save the harsh rebuttal I have written. I don\'t even see my post being referenced except for the quote. My post was a general response that did not quote yours at all.
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^^correct.....
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So let me get this straight.
If you are between 18-21 and you smoke cigarettes you are unable to leave the venue to smoke but if you are older than 21 you can go out for a smoke ?
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^^what about 12/31 Holly?
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after saturday i really despise this venue-not as much as harper\'s ferry though..i managed to make friends with the security people at the front door early on and learned that the owner is a crazy nazi ****, so i guess that\'s why they are so extreme there. i was able to talk the people at the door into letting me go outside and have cigarettes without having to deal with paying again/being kicked out because of the no re-entry policy that they enforce there. the whole thing about not being able to smoke cigarettes even if you are over 18 but under 21 is bullshit. i also thought it was ridiculous to see how many people got kicked out/threatened by some of the security there. as incredible as the show was and how much i love the band, i really don\'t think i want to go back to the webster anytime soon.
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I am not a sound expert, but it seems to me the sound could be greatly improved in there with a few alterations - maybe lower the ceiling, acoustic tiles, something. I never wear earplugs. I am sorry, but to me the sound is muddy **** in there.
sound tiles would be a nice improvement, but im sure they dont want to pay for it. maybe we should start a discussion about it on the the webster\'s forums.
if you never wear ear plugs you must be killing your ears and i dont blame you for thinking it sounds bad. it sounded a little muddy with lots of reverb, but the mix was even and i could hear everything just fine. except for adrians vocals at the beginning of lapti nek. dobz had them sounding better after a little while, but there isnt much you can do because the drum vocal mic will introduce more noise into the mix.
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I am not a sound expert, but it seems to me the sound could be greatly improved in there with a few alterations - maybe lower the ceiling, acoustic tiles, something. I never wear earplugs. I am sorry, but to me the sound is muddy **** in there.
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Do you any of you who were complaining about the sound wear earplugs? I spent first set in back by the bar. I thought it sounded a little distant with ear plugs, but not that bad. so much better than last time when dobz was away on vacation. I spent second set on the floor and i thought it sounded great up front on "save side" with ear plugs in. you cant expect a venue like the webster to sound like porter\'s or toad\'s because of its size and design.
I love seeing the band play the webster because its so much different than seeing them in a small venue because they sound so big. its never going to sound like toad\'s place, but dobz has it sounding better every time they play there and now with ellis on lights i dont see why anyone would want to miss a show there.
security sucks, but its not like we have to deal with them at every breakfast show. i dont mind dealing with it once in a while because its better than not getting to see the band at all. its too bad some people got kicked out. i was lucky and i didnt, but i will know to be more careful and not to do anything stupid next time. hopefully security wont be as bad on nye.
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^^what, somehthing about a stolen image?
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It was my first time at a freakout, my first time at the webster, and yeah, some aspects of the experience did suck. But the guys kicked ass. If they play there, I will def. be there.
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If they play in a hole in the ground, I\'ll be there!
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$6.50 for a guiness too, (I wouldn\'t know but that\'s what fred told me) you should have heard him tell the female bartender that she had balls like watermelons after that
BFast is like heroin to me I know the webster sux, if it was anyone else I wouldn\'t be there but they could play in a hole in the ground (which would prob have better sound) and I would be there they could open for NSync and I would be there
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yeah i hear that mark. i think i\'ll be heading into New York now.
totally agree with the vocal problems. and plus i want..no...need to be at place with a better bar atmosphere, because come on, its new years. the beer at the webster tasted like i was licking a coin.
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I didn\'t find anything bad except for the fact i couldn\'t really hear the vocals.... umm more vocals some how.. please. other than that the sound wasn\'t bad, i had no problems getting in, light patting but nothing bad. heavy security presence and the fact they wouldn\'t let me drop my poster and t-shirts in my car kinda sucked but all in all I\'ll give the whole show experience a B+.
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The Breakfast Rules!
The Webster Drools!
Sorry to say but after Sat night\'s experience, we will not be checking in for voluntary incarceration for NYE. Just not the atmosphere we are looking for. For us and many others to be treated the way we were is inexcusable. This makes me very sad, because there is nothing I would rather be doing than hanging with the band and you all.
And the sound of the place makes it an easy decision, hell, it\'s not like you are really experiencing a concert anyways. Oh well.
Kudos to the boys for kicking major ass Saturday, despite all the bullshit.
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nah man, like i said robyn must have misunderstood you somehow. no one thinks you\'re ruining the scene, and i dont expect you to just take flack, but you can defend yourself without getting really nasty back. everything is good.
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^^just so you know FreeSpirit is a girl, Robyn
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no problem. but i\'m not going to let anyone call me a tool without hearing back from me. its the way i\'ve been brought up, i guess. not looking to start fisticuffs with the guy, but i felt i needed to come back with something for my own sake.
sorry..im not a psycho. i\'m new here and everyone i\'ve talked to on here thus far have been really cool. i just didn\'t want to come across as some wook that\'s ruining the scene as he put it.
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yeah totally, robyn must have misunderstood you, she\'s a rad gal. trust me.
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besides the fact if your gonna get kicked out might as well be at very end than the very beginging.....right?
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Yoma, I know you\'re upset about getting kicked out. It can be an incredibly angering experience, no doubt. But calm down. This was just a comment that came out the wrong way. This issue has already been put to bed.
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fair enough, cobb. sorry you had to see that, but after missing a show like sat. night i\'m not about to take a**hole comments lightly along with the fact that i really wasn\'t doing anything wrong at the show in the first place. i will definitaly try harder next time.
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aright, listen. everyone cool it. i\'m sure this boils down to misunderstanding and miscommunication so lets give our mouths (er... fingers) a rest, ok? there is no need to say such nasty stuff. its just unnecessary, you can get your ideas across without being overtly meanspirited, so lets practice that, alright?
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No offense YoMa, but you\'re lucky that you were just forced out the door & not locked up... it\'s kids like u who give this band a bad rep.
I\'ve never seen security hassle anybody for no reason. Maybe they hassle people for stuff that you can get away with elsewhere, but not for no reason at all. I\'ve actually never witnessed security being jerks anywhere (though I\'m sure it happens). They\'re just doing their jobs. If you want to do something illegal, you\'re taking a risk.
first of all...what REP do you speak of?? in comparison to such fanbases as say, the biscuits, the breakfast fans are complete angles..last time i checked, i didn\'t see any pharmie slinging wookies running around grabbing girls titties at breakfast shows(i\'ve seen in happen dozens of times elsewhere).
secondly, if you had fuckin read my post and used just one 1 millionth of your brain, you could have come to the assumption that i had no intentions of even smoking! (which was the case believe it or not)..you call ME a tool? you automatically label me as some degenerate who was only at the show to get high and cause trouble. next time you decide to call someone a tool because they were unfortunately thrown out of a show that they were throroughly enjoying (for the music), you can eat a bag of dicks.
you say no offense and then call me a tool?? you sir, are the tool.
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my $.02
The Webster Theatre is pretty heavy on security, but they are in the ghetto and focus on a lot of **** music... but please note: they were out there watching your cars like hawks too to make sure nothing happened to them. That\'s what I noticed when I left...also, the sound there isn\'t the best at times...sounds a lot better with a full audience ( and it holds a lot) for The Breafast show it was only 1/4 - 1/3 capactity...there was about 300 people there.
Personally I prefer Toad\'s for sound and vibe. But Webster is THE only place in the Hartford area to see big acts...I have seen a lot of shows there and although they jammed Saturday, the sound wasn\'t that good imo (sorry Josh). It\'s a tough room to mix for...
Last year the NYE show at Toad\'s was cool and it was neat to see the old CT Jam band masters with the new ones...
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what i find half sad/half humorous is that their singer is now a junkie.
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"personal empowerment through **** song"............ niiiiiice!
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"Hey have you heard that band called Earth Crisis?"
"Yeah, I heard they like look down on all drug use and yell at their fans for somking pot and nobody even drinks at their shows."
"WTF? I\'m not going to see them!"
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http://www.mtv.com/bands/az/earth_crisis/bio.jhtml
"Earth Crisis\' chugging riffs and barked declarations served as the mouthpiece of America\'s militant vegan straight-edge movement throughout the \'90s, detailing the ideas of animal and human liberation, drug-free living, and personal empowerment through **** song."
Apparently this genre inspired one of my favorite band names of all time, Vegan Reich.
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I didn\'t know that my little hypothetical band actually existed. Boy is Earth Crisis in trouble, with a rep like that.
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"Hey have you heard that band called Earth Crisis?"
"Yeah, I heard they like look down on all drug use and yell at their fans for somking pot and nobody even drinks at their shows."
"WTF? I\'m not going to see them!"
^^^fixed
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You just have to be aware of what type of security setting you are in and not cross the line.
At beardslee I was smoking retarded amounts of pot in the open.
passing whiskey and jager bottles around
feeding people sweet breath
BRinging in 4 beers at a time from my car
ETC ETC ETC
If i had done any of that at the webster i woulda OBVIOUSLY been dunzo.
Just realize where you are and act accordingly or suffer the consequences.
Its not that complicated.
Klout got it right there. Key is be smart!! Son\'t get me wrong there are some extrenuating circumstances and they can be especially rough at the webster but keep that in mind going in, and as has been said before nobody that i know of went to jail sat night....
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it\'s kids like u who give this band a bad rep.
Let\'s put this one to bed right now. Neither the band nor its fans has any sort of bad reputation. It does not exist. This is an isolated and erroneous comment that just came out the wrong way, that\'s all. It takes hundreds of fans doing hundreds of sktechy things over at least a year on drugs way shadier than pot to get a band any sort of bad drug reputation. I can barely remember any such incident ever. Pot-smoking fans cannot possibly give a rock band a bad rep. Every rock band that ever played a concert has fans who smoke weed in the audience. lol...you wanna hear what a bad rep for a rock band really would be?
"Hey have you heard that band called The Sobers?"
"Yeah, I heard they like look down on all drug use and yell at their fans for somking pot and nobody even drinks at their shows."
"WTF? I\'m not going to see them!"
So anyways...does Webster security try too hard? Yes. (They have a lot of shows that have rough crowds.)
Was it really bad luck for YoMa that they caught him? Yes.
If venue security plainly sees your marijuana should you expect to get kicked out and do they have every right to kick you out? Yes. It sucks but it\'s common knowledge that weed is still illegal, that\'s just how it is.
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I dont post about the Web but I think heres a good place..I havent been back to the webster since 97 for any band. That includes reggae bands and I see them all...I started going there in 90 when they still had theatre seating in there..... Theres other places for a show. I hope NYE goes well for the band and I hope its a big turnout...But after that hopefully they change it up a little... Ive seen more than one band stop doing gigs at that place.. Its mostly because the bands care about there fans and want them to have a good experience... I know sometimes it takes a while to find a new venue...
Im sorry to bring anyone down and the show looked great on paper...
Bean
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seanie,i didnt hear about this.im truely sorry to hear about that.im actually really cool with all the security there,and i wish i seen this happenin.
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You are all hooligans. Bad influence on poor spacey.
WOW Spacey...you are almost back up to full sentences.... Ser MuuMuu!!!!! Had me rotfl all night....CLASSIC!
I was kicked out last night as well. We all make rookie mistakes from time to time, and you gotta lie in your bed if you make it. My only problem with the Webster security is that they are a bit too abrasive and way too standoffish. I know they get a lot of different types of bands in there with different types of fans, but they should really at least to pretend to put forth an effort to understand what kinds of scenes they are dealing with on a show to show basis. I guess going 100% nazi all the time is a good way to just keep their asses covered, but it can really hurt the vibe of the show for the fans and the band......
I was kicked out at setbreak but was up front by the time the lights went down for second set.
I hope that all the negativity that constantly surrounds this venue doesn\'t keep people from coming to NYE.....
B\'fam fo Life....
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security guards almost everywhere are on powers trips...webster was no exception..
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You are all hooligans. Bad influence on poor spacey.
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so i got kicked out last night...
i had to use my lighter. a security guy saw me kneeling like i was so he came to check me out thinking that i was lighting something up. and just my luck, my piece fell out too (idiot for bringing it in) which happened just in time for him to see. so he grabbed it before i did and continued to push me several times (with a good amount of force) until i was out the door.
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No offense YoMa, but you\'re lucky that you were just forced out the door & not locked up... it\'s kids like u who give this band a bad rep.
It seems like this discussion comes up every yr. about the Webster. Not that I\'m the "queen of safety," or anything, but I agree that these guys are just doing their jobs. They may be hardasses, but so what?! They take their jobs seriously and are looking out for everyone who goes there.
since when does the band have a bad rep? did i miss something? there\'s being hardassed and there\'s just being dicks. Somethings they do there are crossing the line. Like not letting anyone under 21 outside smoking cigs back in w/o warning them well enough. I had no issues though, I\'m used to it and keep an eye open at all times(all the while doing some of the shadiest things in almost plain view. Boston security is by far the worst(The Paradise, Avalon, Harper\'s Ferry. etc.), so I\'m used to it.
well stated gregg.... i am all about abiding by (most) of the rules, but seriously we\'re not smashing into each other or trying to smuggle in guns or anything... shows are supposed to be fun, and i for one dont like the feeling that i\'m being constantly monitored and watched while i\'m just trying to hear some music....
... and yeah, since when did the breakfast get a bad rep??? YoMa, sorry about gettin booted, i was booted too but managed to get back in.... but by NO means do i think you deserve to be locked up... :confused:
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I\'d like to re-interate that this post was started because someone was sitting in the photo pit with a pass and a medical condition, but because they were not shooting pictures security tried to kick him out. Yes, security was doing their job to check the person, but once they saw that they had authorization to be there they should have left him be instead of trying to kick him out. I agree, if you have authorization to be somewhere or are just having a good time they should leave you alone. If your going to sneak something in though, you do it at your own risk.
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exactly, rather than bitching about shitty security we should look at the REAL issue at hand:
shitty sound.
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You just have to be aware of what type of security setting you are in and not cross the line.
At beardslee I was smoking retarded amounts of pot in the open.
passing whiskey and jager bottles around
feeding people sweet breath
BRinging in 4 beers at a time from my car
ETC ETC ETC
If i had done any of that at the webster i woulda OBVIOUSLY been dunzo.
Just realize where you are and act accordingly or suffer the consequences.
Its not that complicated.
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They were nice to me but I know that they were being unreasonable to others...Seemed like they were on power trips or something. The show was awesome either way...as for the band having a bad rep... They are a jam band. They already have a set rep just by saying ?jam?? its not yoma?s fault.
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so i got kicked out last night...
first of all..being my second show, i had a GREAT time last night. it was a real fun show. it really showed that they had prepared so much for it beforehand. everything was executed so smoothly. could have sounded even better if it weren\'t at the webster. it sounded so muffled it was like everything kind of meshed together at points.
ok now for my stupid little story that i feel i must vent about...while dancing, my cell phone dropped from my loose pockets. i couldn\'t see it since it was so dark so i had to use my lighter. a security guy saw me kneeling like i was so he came to check me out thinking that i was lighting something up. and just my luck, my piece fell out too (idiot for brinning it in) which happened just in time for him to see. so he grabbed it before i did and continued to push me several times (with a good amount of force) until i was out the door. this happened right during the encore though and i was able to hear it well enough outside. and it was just a little bullshit batty packed with some beesters. hope everyone had a good time.
i blame the beasters.
hahaha. seriously though, dont worry about "giving us a bad name." i strongly doubt the breakfast are trying to ditch their pot smoking fans.
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so i got kicked out last night...
i had to use my lighter. a security guy saw me kneeling like i was so he came to check me out thinking that i was lighting something up. and just my luck, my piece fell out too (idiot for bringing it in) which happened just in time for him to see. so he grabbed it before i did and continued to push me several times (with a good amount of force) until i was out the door.
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No offense YoMa, but you\'re lucky that you were just forced out the door & not locked up... it\'s kids like u who give this band a bad rep.
It seems like this discussion comes up every yr. about the Webster. Not that I\'m the "queen of safety," or anything, but I agree that these guys are just doing their jobs. They may be hardasses, but so what?! They take their jobs seriously and are looking out for everyone who goes there.
since when does the band have a bad rep? did i miss something? there\'s being hardassed and there\'s just being dicks. Somethings they do there are crossing the line. Like not letting anyone under 21 outside smoking cigs back in w/o warning them well enough. I had no issues though, I\'m used to it and keep an eye open at all times(all the while doing some of the shadiest things in almost plain view. Boston security is by far the worst(The Paradise, Avalon, Harper\'s Ferry. etc.), so I\'m used to it.
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so i got kicked out last night...
i had to use my lighter. a security guy saw me kneeling like i was so he came to check me out thinking that i was lighting something up. and just my luck, my piece fell out too (idiot for bringing it in) which happened just in time for him to see. so he grabbed it before i did and continued to push me several times (with a good amount of force) until i was out the door.
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No offense YoMa, but you\'re lucky that you were just forced out the door & not locked up... it\'s kids like u who give this band a bad rep.
I\'ve never seen security hassle anybody for no reason. Maybe they hassle people for stuff that you can get away with elsewhere, but not for no reason at all. I\'ve actually never witnessed security being jerks anywhere (though I\'m sure it happens). They\'re just doing their jobs. If you want to do something illegal, you\'re taking a risk.
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It seems like this discussion comes up every yr. about the Webster. Not that I\'m the "queen of safety," or anything, but I agree that these guys are just doing their jobs. They may be hardasses, but so what?! They take their jobs seriously and are looking out for everyone who goes there.
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i felt fine. granted i dont use mind altering substances, so i guess thats why. but i just leveled with the security when i needed to go outside and they were pretty cool with it. but i agree, if you\'re gonna try to bring illegal things into the venue, you\'re taking the risk. yes we\'re spoiled with some cool venues that look the other way, but the law is the law, and you can\'t get pissed for people doing their job to cover their own asses. i think people should be allowed to smoke pot at shows if they want, but they cant and thats just how it is.
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oooh, i\'m on this one! ;)
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I\'ve never seen security hassle anybody for no reason. Maybe they hassle people for stuff that you can get away with elsewhere, but not for no reason at all. I\'ve actually never witnessed security being jerks anywhere (though I\'m sure it happens). They\'re just doing there jobs. If you want to do something illegal, you\'re taking a risk.
Also, it should be implied that there is no re-entry if you go to your car in a place like the Webster, considering there is a smoking area right outside the door.
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agreed,i know some **** went down,but these guys are just doing their job and most of them dont even wanna do it.i know the main boss is the ultimate nazi,so these young kids workin there are just doin what they gotta.unreal show.
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i saw a kid get thrown out for putting his jacket in his car
there was a sign that said no re entry. sometimes i have to go back to my car at the webster and i just tell them at the door and i never have a problem.
im sorry so many people felt uncomfortable. i didnt have any problems at all.
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i saw a kid get thrown out for putting his jacket in his car
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so i got kicked out last night...
first of all..being my second show, i had a GREAT time last night. it was a real fun show. it really showed that they had prepared so much for it beforehand. everything was executed so smoothly. could have sounded even better if it weren\'t at the webster. it sounded so muffled it was like everything kind of meshed together at points.
ok now for my stupid little story that i feel i must vent about...while dancing, my cell phone dropped from my loose pockets. i couldn\'t see it since it was so dark so i had to use my lighter. a security guy saw me kneeling like i was so he came to check me out thinking that i was lighting something up. and just my luck, my piece fell out too (idiot for brinning it in) which happened just in time for him to see. so he grabbed it before i did and continued to push me several times (with a good amount of force) until i was out the door. this happened right during the encore though and i was able to hear it well enough outside. and it was just a little bullshit batty packed with some beesters. hope everyone had a good time.
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i\'ve always felt that way about the Webster. without a doubt the worst venue in CT, but as long the the breakfast keep playing there I will keep returning. Staff is just flat out rude and always looking to "catch" someone doing something they are not supposed to.
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Agreed. The only time I will ever go back there is to see the breakfast. Their staff sucked and they all these weird rules. I\'m surprised you didn\'t have to know the secret handshake. Apparently you had to have a johnson just to get served. That bartender was a ****.
Thankfully, the show was phenom.
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at the Webster? I realize that may be THE gross understatement of the year, but gimme a break. And of course when I say uncomfortable, I mean did anyone else feel like every which way you turned the staff was getting ready to pounce on you like a cheetah going after wounded prey?
The show was great. 110% as always. Awesome turnout. Grassroots have picked up and it shows; and thanks to everyone who contributed.
I just had a hard time really enjoying it. They gave me a hard time when I was sitting at the stage (I had access, and a valid medical reason for that matter). The whole experience was kind of disconcerting.