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General Discussions => Tribal Funk Affliction => Topic started by: Klout on September 18, 2005, 09:48:00 pm
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hey jocelyn, stop trying to shove your opinion about franti down our throats ****!
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i understand. It ussually annoys me too but for some reason it doesn\'t bother me at franti shows. At all good this summer it seemed like every single band that played said somethign anti bush and it was so lame redundant.
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ok here\'s one.. and again, i\'m not really stating opinions here, but just for argument\'s sake (and this kind of touches on what al said as well):
what about when tim goes on weed rants, which he does every once in a while - whether in a PBB intro, FFT, or just plain banter.. \'legalize weed. weed is good. smoke em if you got em. etc.\'
sure, it may not be political, but he\'s stating his opinion about something on stage, which members of the audience may or may not agree with, or may or may not want to hear, just as the other artists are.. is that different?
Yes it is different.
The key difference being your three words "ONCE IN A WHILE." I wouldn\'t mind political opinions being stated if it was infrequently done.
Tim doesn\'t tend to harp on one thing repeatedly throughout a show, or throughout the course of all of his shows.
Of course artists can state their opinion. Art is self-expression after all. I just don\'t want to feel like someone is shoving said opinion down my throat.
Justin I am not calling for music without meaning, and actually, most of what I am referring to regarding Franti is not the lyrics of his songs but what he says BETWEEN the songs.
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ok here\'s one.. and again, i\'m not really stating opinions here, but just for argument\'s sake (and this kind of touches on what al said as well):
what about when tim goes on weed rants, which he does every once in a while - whether in a PBB intro, FFT, or just plain banter.. \'legalize weed. weed is good. smoke em if you got em. etc.\'
sure, it may not be political, but he\'s stating his opinion about something on stage, which members of the audience may or may not agree with, or may or may not want to hear, just as the other artists are.. is that different?
"I want to talk about something very serious here... people take it very seriously... so seriously, they want to make it illegal..."
TP - PBB intro - The Booth - Spring 2004
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music would be pretty boring IMO if it had no meaning behind it whatsoever
Thats what makes music exciting...even if it is just an instrumental...there is still feelings and emotion and ideology behind the music
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ok here\'s one.. and again, i\'m not really stating opinions here, but just for argument\'s sake (and this kind of touches on what al said as well):
what about when tim goes on weed rants, which he does every once in a while - whether in a PBB intro, FFT, or just plain banter.. \'legalize weed. weed is good. smoke em if you got em. etc.\'
sure, it may not be political, but he\'s stating his opinion about something on stage, which members of the audience may or may not agree with, or may or may not want to hear, just as the other artists are.. is that different?
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I know they have that choice Dave, and the choice I make is not to see bands who make the choice to run their mouths about politics.
Jus, the last time I saw him it was not a "world view" that dominated his diatribe but a direct attack on the current administration.
And I don\'t really want him telling me what is divine anyhow.
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Cannot stand the political ranting... I don\'t care about his (very ignorant sounding) opinions. I pay to hear live music, not be preached to. I can either go to church or listen to Hannity for that. It\'s redundant, insulting, and very irritating!
i am totally with ya..
people (well, me) go to shows to have fun and see a good performance. i resent it when musicians/artists start talking about any of that stuff. i get so sick of hearing people going off at shows about who to vote for, what to do, who to be against, etc...and i am not picking sides because the last election was a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich for me, but i am so sick of all the anti-bush ****.
I wouldn\'t mind hearing the political commentary if it wasn\'t so cliche and actually provided a unique perspective, though most of it tends to come in the form on general statements like "Bush is racist" etc. It comes down to them providing a sentence without finishing the paragraph.
I\'m also not a fan of the Hollywood crowd of self-proclaimed foreign policy experts and spokespeople, especially considering that most are high school/college dropouts with very little insight and no values (given the frequent divorces and rehab among the bunch).
- performer has a choice to voice opinion on stage or not.
Another reason why I respect the band. They tend to provide music first-and-foremost without dividing the fanbase with political views.
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Cannot stand the political ranting... I don\'t care about his (very ignorant sounding) opinions. I pay to hear live music, not be preached to. I can either go to church or listen to Hannity for that. It\'s redundant, insulting, and very irritating!
i am totally with ya..
people (well, me) go to shows to have fun and see a good performance. i resent it when musicians/artists start talking about any of that stuff. i get so sick of hearing people going off at shows about who to vote for, what to do, who to be against, etc...and i am not picking sides because the last election was a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich for me, but i am so sick of all the anti-bush ****.
there\'s that, but then there\'s the side that says the person with the microphone can say/do whatever they want. i\'m not saying either side is right or wrong, but it all comes down to choices..
- performer has a choice to voice opinion on stage or not.
- audience member has a choice whether to take a **** break or sit and listen, and even after listening, they still make the ultimate choice in regard to their own opinion anyways, so..
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Cannot stand the political ranting... I don\'t care about his (very ignorant sounding) opinions. I pay to hear live music, not be preached to. I can either go to church or listen to Hannity for that. It\'s redundant, insulting, and very irritating!
i am totally with ya..
people (well, me) go to shows to have fun and see a good performance. i resent it when musicians/artists start talking about any of that stuff. i get so sick of hearing people going off at shows about who to vote for, what to do, who to be against, etc...and i am not picking sides because the last election was a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich for me, but i am so sick of all the anti-bush ****.
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joc! I am shocked!
I don\'t see the message as "political ranting" or preaching. He speaks of a larger world view based around love and compassion, NOT money and greed and industrial materialism. He taps into a divine source of transformation, evolution, higher consciousness every show. Republicans and democrats are part of the picture, but it goes so far beyond "**** Bush".
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Liked the cd when I first heard it. Liked them live the first time I heard them. Currently can\'t stand them.
I really think if you have seen one show you have seen them all.
Cannot stand the political ranting... I don\'t care about his (very ignorant sounding) opinions. I pay to hear live music, not be preached to. I can either go to church or listen to Hannity for that. It\'s redundant, insulting, and very irritating!
ohhh snap!
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Liked the cd when I first heard it. Liked them live the first time I heard them. Currently can\'t stand them.
I really think if you have seen one show you have seen them all.
Cannot stand the political ranting... I don\'t care about his (very ignorant sounding) opinions. I pay to hear live music, not be preached to. I can either go to church or listen to Hannity for that. It\'s redundant, insulting, and very irritating!
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First saw Spearhead at Baja Bash and I went out and bought all the CDs. Great music, Great message.
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saw Franti at high sierra, had a blast. its always great to feel like youre actually part of the show. although i liked him alot, i have a feeling his shows would get old if you saw him 3 or 4 times a year. ive heard his shows are identical, actually. either way, its great for the first time and ill definitely see him next summer again if i get the chance.
as for sick reggae, has anyone out in Cali seen Groundation live? just started listening to them (found them through John Brown\'s Body) and they are unreal. Hebron Gate is no doubt an epic reggae album. shocked when i got it and gave it a listen. they actually bring a good dose of jazz into their music too. just great, great stuff. i gurantee anyone here would really like these guys, reggae or non-reggae fans alike.
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I saw Franti at Big Summer Classic. He was a lot of fun, definitely easy to groove to, but the "how you feelin\'?"s and "all the freaky people"s got annoying. I think if sometimes he would stop freestyling or yammering on, I could enjoy it more because it leaves more room to listen to the instrumentals.
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Niiice! Yeah I\'m interested in Arcade Fire too. If we are meant to chill in Vegas it will happen. Good to know it can.
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well my crew has two adjoining SICK, and i mean SICK rooms and everyones going. Musically tho Franti would be my main motivation ...I\'ll enjoy the meters! atmosphere n,trey, talib kweli too. i\'m curious about arcade fire, beck phil...its a kool lineup all in all. and i like latenight club show set up, even tho its more $$$. Hopefully i will crush it in the poker room :D
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hey are from san fran so they play a lota shows in cali obviously. you should hit em up next time.
I think i am gonna go to veegoose mainly just to see them. And a ser gangster party of course ;)
Come on now. Going to Vegoose mainly to see Franti? Wow Mind blown all over the wall. Well if I do not put my fest and plane ticket and hotel room up for bid and send the proceeds to The Breakfast we should try and meet up in Vegas. It is going to be crazy. Do you have any latenite tix yet? I have a few but not Franti.
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hey are from san fran so they play a lota shows in cali obviously. you should hit em up next time.
I think i am gonna go to veegoose mainly just to see them. And a ser gangster party of course ;)
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I don\'t think I\'ve ever heard him, though I missed the chance to see him perform for free in Golden Gate Park last weekend.
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refers to Franti as "Michael (\'How You Feelin?\') Franti." :lol:
true dat!!! last time i saw him was at the all good festival and it was a very entertaining show, but there are always a lot of "how you doin tonight!?" "how ya feelin!?" "YEAAAH!" also mentioned in this thread: http://thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=4632&page=5&pp=15&highlight=big+summer+classic (http://thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=4632&page=5&pp=15&highlight=big+summer+classic)
i\'ve never seen him aside from at festivals but might check out a show if it comes my way...
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I admit the how you feelin does get a bit redundent. its funy at this point tho.
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The current edition of Umphrey\'s fan newsletter, Dump City Gutter, refers to Franti as "Michael (\'How You Feelin?\') Franti." :lol:
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yea its a pretty big mix of styles....hip hop, different kinds of reggae, a little funk here and there, touches of rock and roll, world music etc
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never seen him live... been wanting to for a long time... I only have one of his cd\'s, but I really dig it.... it\'s sort of like intelligent, non-thugified rap.
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Definitely my favorite live act next to the breakfast now that Rezi is Dunzo.
The band is really tight to begin with. The music is not amazingly technical like the breakfast but its incredibly soulful and tasteful.
Franti himself is a genius prophet and all around amazing preformer. Through is lyrics and singing and total self delivers what I see as the clearest, most pure, best intentioned and most uplifting message of any musical artist. He uses music as vehicle to connect with his audiences on a soul level and take the whole place to the next level. Crowd interaction at some franti shows is much higher than breakfast shows which is astoundingly high to begin with.
The shows are mostly straight up foot stomping ,fist pumping, people jumping DANCE PARTIES. People just throwing down like the world was about to end. He does take the tempo way down though. Usually several times per show. But the slow moments often get so intensely emotional that you don?t get bored or even notice that the tempo has slowed down dramatically. Then before you know it your dancing hard than you ever have in your life.....AGAIN! :banana:
Anyway if you have by chance never heard him here are some good shows to stream or download.
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=27446
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=21730
Any thoughts? Questions? fans? haters?