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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: freddiewaht on August 08, 2005, 11:43:33 am
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please continue discussion of a FUNDRAISER here:
http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=4858
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Here is my suggestion: The Breakfast needs to incorporate itself. It will cost a little bit and be a hassle to deal with paperwork, most certainly. However, once that is done, nearly everything will be a tax write-off. New van, gas, drinks, food, etc. They would save tons. I dont know why nobody has suggested this before...it makes ALOT of sense
You dont have to be incorporated to include any of those things as a write off....I make less than $2000/year playing once a month in a blues band at a local bar and I write off more than that in expenses. they include amps, guitars, strings, picks, cds, mileage to practice and home, mileage to the bar and back, etc not to mention trips to festivals, etc. Anything that deals with music is basically a writeoff for me.
yeah but you are dealing with 2000/yr...the irs will surely question 4 guys trying to write-off 10\'s that.
Sorry but it works the same no matter how much you make. We split everything we make 5 ways including rental expense to rent what we dont own. Basically the band sends each member a 1099 form at tax time and then each member does what he wants with it. They can each claim expenses seperately besides the ones that they share.
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Here is my suggestion: The Breakfast needs to incorporate itself. It will cost a little bit and be a hassle to deal with paperwork, most certainly. However, once that is done, nearly everything will be a tax write-off. New van, gas, drinks, food, etc. They would save tons. I dont know why nobody has suggested this before...it makes ALOT of sense
You dont have to be incorporated to include any of those things as a write off....I make less than $2000/year playing once a month in a blues band at a local bar and I write off more than that in expenses. they include amps, guitars, strings, picks, cds, mileage to practice and home, mileage to the bar and back, etc not to mention trips to festivals, etc. Anything that deals with music is basically a writeoff for me.
yeah but you are dealing with 2000/yr...the irs will surely question 4 guys trying to write-off 10\'s that.
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I know...i tried to discuss this months ago but was meant with glazed looks. It makes so much sense to me. Everything they do would be a write-off and it would be them in a different tax bracket and everything... I would love to help with this process if needed
Incorporating is not that difficult or expensive... my wife just started an LLC all by herself & for not a ton of money (under $500)... it would pay for itself in the first month if the band were to do it... I\'m shocked that they haven\'t already.
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Here is my suggestion: The Breakfast needs to incorporate itself. It will cost a little bit and be a hassle to deal with paperwork, most certainly. However, once that is done, nearly everything will be a tax write-off. New van, gas, drinks, food, etc. They would save tons. I dont know why nobody has suggested this before...it makes ALOT of sense
You dont have to be incorporated to include any of those things as a write off....I make less than $2000/year playing once a month in a blues band at a local bar and I write off more than that in expenses. they include amps, guitars, strings, picks, cds, mileage to practice and home, mileage to the bar and back, etc not to mention trips to festivals, etc. Anything that deals with music is basically a writeoff for me.
Also, a tax write off is just tax exempt not something that you dont end up paying for. And actually you dont get 100% of any of it....every category has a %.
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We were talking about this last night spacey...I dont understand how people can say such things. So much talent. I may be pretty small but if you knock them out, i will kick \'em while they are down.
thats what I like to hear.
now,
one way to help this entire band is to sell out the Puppet House as it will be a reachable goal and the band would benefit greatly from this.
I like Freddie\'s idea of autographed pictures and I think Chris has a solid idea too. What if we can some how get the band to sign all 4 albums that they put out and raffle it off as a grand prize on NYE or something.
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Ron should be practicing new licks on the bass, they need an accountant/finacial planner for that stuff...this is on another realm of business here, professionals need to be dealing with this...
I agree 100%... BUT if they cannot afford someone to so it for them, then Ron (r someone else in the band is going to have to). Not taking care of this crap will result in problems... guaranfuckingteed.
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Ron should be practicing new licks on the bass, they need an accountant/finacial planner for that stuff...this is on another realm of business here, professionals need to be dealing with this...
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I know...i tried to discuss this months ago but was meant with glazed looks. It makes so much sense to me. Everything they do would be a write-off and it would be them in a different tax bracket and everything... I would love to help with this process if needed
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Here is my suggestion: The Breakfast needs to incorporate itself.
I thought that was done in 2001?
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i think the bands finances have no place on this board.
there the band,let them do what they gotta do.
there all adults,and i know ronnie does ok as far as the finances go.
ALL I SUGGESTED WAS GETTING A FEW DOLLARS TOGETHER TO HELP OUT TIMMYP.
here is where I think it is sticky,
the band should have money for situations like this, if they don\'t, then we need not to worry.
I don\'t think we should expose the financial side of this band but I do believe that if everything is alright with finances with the band then we wouldn\'t be trying to raise money for Tim or a van for the band.
My thing is this, Ron shouldn\'t have to worry about dealing with the finances and have that take away from time that they could be practicing or writing new songs. There comes a time when you have to realize that you can\'t do it all to the point of proper efficency.
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Can someone please confirm that the bad has insurance for their equipment? If the first theft of everything wasn\'t enough to snap them into shape on this issue, they have way bigger problems than a stolen guitar. Yes, insurance costs money... but look at the alternative if you don\'t have it.
I will always support the band in any way possible... if we start a fund for the guitar, I will contribute... but if they want to have even a shimmer of hope to make it big, they need to quit the mickey mouse ****. Someone in the band needs to handle the business (and correctly) if they can\'t afford to hire someone. Not doing so is a receipe for disaster.
On a positive note, it looks like Timmy will be forced to play the SG for a while...
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Here is my suggestion: The Breakfast needs to incorporate itself. It will cost a little bit and be a hassle to deal with paperwork, most certainly. However, once that is done, nearly everything will be a tax write-off. New van, gas, drinks, food, etc. They would save tons. I dont know why nobody has suggested this before...it makes ALOT of sense
Ideas like this need to be implimented...
Lisa I don\'t know, but a good idea at the very least.
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We were talking about this last night spacey...I dont understand how people can say such things. So much talent. I may be pretty small but if you knock them out, i will kick \'em while they are down.
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Here is my suggestion: The Breakfast needs to incorporate itself. It will cost a little bit and be a hassle to deal with paperwork, most certainly. However, once that is done, nearly everything will be a tax write-off. New van, gas, drinks, food, etc. They would save tons. I dont know why nobody has suggested this before...it makes ALOT of sense
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how did this thread get railroaded into Name change, the name is fine.\\
if they change their name again, they might as well change it to Identity Crisis
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this thread is getting out of control. i dont think any issues with management/finances can get solved on this message board. things must be taken one piece at a time. want to raise some money? lets decide on a raffle. my stance would to be just to raise money for the band and let them decide whats the best way to spend it. it\'s their band, let them decide what their priorities are. i like chris\'s idea of raffling off a signed dvd, but lets up the incentive and include more merch than that, so people will really want to buy raffle tickets. a dollar ticket is a great way of doing so. anyone with me?
edit: if this thread continues to spiral out of control, i\'m just gonna close it.
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who is bickering?
why is it everytime people start to talk on this board, it is a fight/bickering, people are entitled to opinions and I think we need to listen to everyone of them. Everyone needs to learn to talk.
I have been flamed by Oldnewbie many times, did I ever take it to heart? No, why? because I never met the man and until I did last week, I hadn\'t made a conclusion about him. After meeting him and talking to him, I understand exactly where he is coming from on many of the remarks. He is one of the kindest and friendliest people I have ever met. I saw him hand drinks to the band at one point last night and I saw him worry about smoke coming from a light. My point is this, just because it seems like we are talking at each others throat doesn\'t mean it is bad. Have you ever solved something with out talking about it? Ever have a discussion or a debate in school? Does it seem like it is bickering? It is simply discussion.
Maybe we all need a "swim out to Love Lake"?
can you please try to bring something to the table for once?
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Someone needs to kill this thread.
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You can NOT change the name of this band again. Disaster waiting to happen.
What this band needs is to get the business side of the ordeal staightened out so they can focus on what is really important, creating more songs and music.
Because I am tired of comments like this, especially from people who claim to like the band
yeah they\'re great at first, like seriously the biggest breath of fresh air ever... but then after 3 years of **** following you\'ll grow tired of their ongoing jams that seem to go absolutely nowhere. i used to fluff the living hell out of them, but realized that almost everyone i introduced them to disliked them because of their lack of musical direction, display of generic "psychedelic hippie lingo" ie lyrics to See the Light, VT Song etc.. and overall need to go too far over the edge with every show they played. do i still love them to death? yes, they\'ll always have a special place in my heart. do i think they\'ll ever progress out of the bar/club scene? nope.....
Umph 4 lyfe snucka.....
In all SER, the next time I hear someone call this band a shitty bar band, I am going to knock them out. I am tired of all the people who want Phish to get back together, GIVE IT UP! A PHISH reuinion would be the cheesiest and lamest thing ever. It is time to move on...
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http://www.musicproinsurance.com
These people have tour liability, travel accident coverage, and instrument/equipment insurance. It\'s a start, at least. These are the kind of things that they would need to be looking for in a reliable insurance plan.
they have insurance.
for the love of god.
im aggrevated/audi5000
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I have a 1991 Chevy 3/4 ton van with a brand new heater core and Radiator that would easilly make it out to CT. I\'ll sell it for $1000 and drive it out there with all expenses paid.
i don\'t know if they have something in the works already, but you should send an email to one of the .org people, either ron or tim.
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:deadhorse
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who is bickering?
why is it everytime people start to talk on this board, it is a fight/bickering, people are entitled to opinions and I think we need to listen to everyone of them. Everyone needs to learn to talk.
I have been flamed by Oldnewbie many times, did I ever take it to heart? No, why? because I never met the man and until I did last week, I hadn\'t made a conclusion about him. After meeting him and talking to him, I understand exactly where he is coming from on many of the remarks. He is one of the kindest and friendliest people I have ever met. I saw him hand drinks to the band at one point last night and I saw him worry about smoke coming from a light. My point is this, just because it seems like we are talking at each others throat doesn\'t mean it is bad. Have you ever solved something with out talking about it? Ever have a discussion or a debate in school? Does it seem like it is bickering? It is simply discussion.
Maybe we all need a "swim out to Love Lake"?
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who is bickering?
why is it everytime people start to talk on this board, it is a fight/bickering, people are entitled to opinions and I think we need to listen to everyone of them. Everyone needs to learn to talk.
I have been flamed by Oldnewbie many times, did I ever take it to heart? No, why? because I never met the man and until I did last week, I hadn\'t made a conclusion about him. After meeting him and talking to him, I understand exactly where he is coming from on many of the remarks. He is one of the kindest and friendliest people I have ever met. I saw him hand drinks to the band at one point last night and I saw him worry about smoke coming from a light. My point is this, just because it seems like we are talking at each others throat doesn\'t mean it is bad. Have you ever solved something with out talking about it? Ever have a discussion or a debate in school? Does it seem like it is bickering? It is simply discussion.
spacey,realize that were dealing with a few flybynights who are the biggest breakfast fans in the world right now.
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http://www.musicproinsurance.com
These people have tour liability, travel accident coverage, and instrument/equipment insurance. It\'s a start, at least. These are the kind of things that they would need to be looking for in a reliable insurance plan.
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i think the bands finances have no place on this board.
there the band,let them do what they gotta do.
there all adults,and i know ronnie does ok as far as the finances go.
ALL I SUGGESTED WAS GETTING A FEW DOLLARS TOGETHER TO HELP OUT TIMMYP.
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who is bickering?
why is it everytime people start to talk on this board, it is a fight/bickering, people are entitled to opinions and I think we need to listen to everyone of them. Everyone needs to learn to talk.
I have been flamed by Oldnewbie many times, did I ever take it to heart? No, why? because I never met the man and until I did last week, I hadn\'t made a conclusion about him. After meeting him and talking to him, I understand exactly where he is coming from on many of the remarks. He is one of the kindest and friendliest people I have ever met. I saw him hand drinks to the band at one point last night and I saw him worry about smoke coming from a light. My point is this, just because it seems like we are talking at each others throat doesn\'t mean it is bad. Have you ever solved something with out talking about it? Ever have a discussion or a debate in school? Does it seem like it is bickering? It is simply discussion.
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"The Breakfast" is definatly hokey...But people know it. Not sure it would be wise to change it again right now. Im sure they have already thought about it alot.
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Ok, here are my thoughts....first off buying a van or any equipment as a band can be a bad situation. What happens when the band goes their seperate ways? I am in a band and have been for about 15 years and I can tell you from personal experience that this never works out. Someone always ends up feeling like they got screwed on the deal. I have a 1991 Chevy 3/4 ton van with a brand new heater core and Radiator that would easilly make it out to CT. I\'ll sell it for $1000 and drive it out there with all expenses paid. Buying a PA as a band is a bad idea....not to mention I think any member of a band would like to have his own PA. Also, where I\'m from you only get paid $400/night (4 hours of playing) + free drinks so $1000 per show is very very good. We all own different parts of the PA....our own Mics, cords, etc. The drummer owns the monitors, one of the guitar players owns the board and mains and we rent powered subs for $60/weekend from the local music store.
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Priorities need to be placed then taken care of...when you have a band like it, the operation turns into a business. Not just booking gigs and such...
true..they can\'t just go from show to show and not plan/finance ****. it\'s important that they have a concrete business plan/budget/save.
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im a good guy/on timmys dick
thats already a recipe for disaster: you cant be a successful good guy business manager and be romantically linked to band members....come on now
words of wisdom.
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as far as being on Timmy\'s dick... well that\'s Steve\'s job.
Where is Steve "T.P.\'s dong hugger" Gencs? The reviews of the last half week\'s shows are not complete with out his analysis.
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I hate negative situations...:( We really should take this to the band instead of bickering amongst ourselves (or at least come up with some sort of plan/formal proposal).
Priorities need to be placed then taken care of...when you have a band like it, the operation turns into a business. Not just booking gigs and such...
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im a good guy/on timmys dick
thats already a recipe for disaster: you cant be a successful good guy business manager and be romantically linked to band members....come on now
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I hate negative situations...:( We really should take this to the band instead of bickering amongst ourselves (or at least come up with some sort of plan/formal proposal).
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I\'m a honest person, and the name blows, there has to be ways around this.
It\'s psychedelic breakfast (music) not a psychedelic drug.
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Freddie for manager! I\'ll back you up. So good of you to try to think of a way to help Tim before talking badly about him leaving his stuff in the van. Good guy Freddie.
im a good guy/on timmys dick
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I may be wrong on this but I think it had somethng to do with the rave act.
As club/venue owners became responsible for the deaths of people at shows, the band had trouble/would have trouble booking gigs because of the word pyschedelic and what it implies.
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the were pigeonholed cause of the very obvious drug reference
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Freddie for manager! I\'ll back you up. So good of you to try to think of a way to help Tim before talking badly about him leaving his stuff in the van. Good guy Freddie.
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first line of buisness=changing the name back to psychedelic breakfast
:thumbsup:
Who changed it in the first place...ya laws...what happend to freedom of speech/advertisment?
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aren\'t there keys missing from jordans piano?
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if they had 1000 to work with, they would never have to be on a shoestring budget again. they could probably be in the clear by Oct. and have no financial troubles.
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here\'s my problem..
i think this is really cute that you guys wanna come together so timmy could replace his guitar.. but tell me - where\'s the fund to raise money for the van that the band lost in an accident 2 months ago? right now, the band doesn\'t even have a vehicle to get from show to show in, because it was (more or less) destroyed in an accident. where are the raffle tickets for that??
i\'m sorry, but to me, that sure as hell sounds like a better idea than trying to replace something that tim lost due to his own stupidity. last time i checked, tim had another guitar.. i think he may have even played it last night.
i seriously think this band would be much better off if a lot of people stepped back and hopped off tim\'s dick for a minute, and maybe hopped onto the band\'s collective dick for once.
i\'d apologize for the rant, but i\'m not sorry. flame away.
holy rant, very valid opinions. IMO, the sound is the fans touch point to the band. stolen amps/guitars/pa\'s has a direct impact on this.
while wrecked vans have a negative effect on the band, I always assumed insurance would help get them outta that mess.
as far as being on Timmy\'s dick... well that\'s Steve\'s job. But I don\'t think you\'d see a different kind of response if this thread was about a bass or drums or one of the rattist hammonds i\'ve ever seen.
maybe I\'ve assumed too much...??
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on a side note,if i was a chick id give timmypalms a hummer on stage in front of a sold out crowd.
consermified!
I probably would too, Freddie...but you\'d have to have a sold-out show first. That\'s why there\'s all this money talk right now.
yes you would.
thats quite obvious to all.
so,at first its his fault,than its not.what side of the fence are you on now?
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first line of buisness=changing the name back to psychedelic breakfast
:thumbsup:
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Can you put a guitar or PA on a payment plan?
The band can always rent/lease a van or try to buy one on a payment plan.
This problem goes far beyond the fan. Something is wrong with the business side of the band. Doesn\'t the band have any money put away? Like a touring fund or a savings account? I know they make little money but if they just took a small percentage of what they made and put it away (something like 10%) then they would not have a problem with money or some of these other issues.
What happened to the van? Did they have insurance?
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ok,ill be the new breakfast manager.
first line of buisness=changing the name back to psychedelic breakfast
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dude i completely forgot about the van. definitly a much better cause than tim\'s stuff. i\'m not saying it was ok that someone stole his stuff by any means, but leaving expensive equipment out in the open for an entire weekend is just not smart, not to mention that a sweltering hot van is not the place for expensive equipment to begin with....
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on a side note,if i was a chick id give timmypalms a hummer on stage in front of a sold out crowd.
consermified!
I probably would too, Freddie...but you\'d have to have a sold-out show first. That\'s why there\'s all this money talk right now.
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on a side note; The band needs to take more care of their business practices or hire someone to do so.
indeed they do. it wouldnt be hard to get their stuff in check. maybe somebody could volunteer their time to doing that. give a man a fish...
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Bottom line:
-Any small donations will help.
-Any amount of promotion will help.
-They need to get their butts in gear and hire someone to take control of their finances. If they want to be professional musicians, they\'re going to have to act like professionals.
Tim, Ron, Jordan, and Adrian have some sacrifices to make before they can go much further. Please don\'t get me wrong, I love this band, I love their music, and I love that they\'re trying hard, but there are several key areas in terms of money that have been overlooked as of late. I\'m saying all of this because I want the best for them and I want them to achieve their dreams.
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where i grew up friends try to help their friends out if they can.
me suggesting for folks to try to help the kid out should have absolutely nothing to do with being on his dick.thats gotta be a joke.
on a side note,if i was a chick id give timmypalms a hummer on stage in front of a sold out crowd.
consermified!
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i\'d apologize for the rant, but i\'m not sorry. flame away.
good point, but i didnt think that most people who aren\'t friends with the band even knew about the van.
I think its more important to replace the pa than it is the guitar. i don\'t know if the issue has been resolved yet, but how is tim supposed to do his solo shows at richter\'s without a new one? i think there has only been 1 show where he had to provide his own pa since it was stolen, and ian took care of it for tim in bewteen 2 of his own gigs. ian will not be able to do that all the time, especially since he is moving away soon.
The van is the most important thing because the band can\'t tour without a reliable vehicle, but helping with that would be asking way too much of the fans. i dont think its possible for the fans to make much of a difference at all in raising enough money to buy a new van, but it may be possible for us to raise enough money to pay the difference for a new pa after tim gets an insurance check.
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:thumbsup: on a side note; The band needs to take more care of their business practices or hire someone to do so.
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I didn\'t even know that the van was lost in an accident, was this ever posted on the board?
The reason that TPalms is getting so much attention from this is because Freddiewaht posted the idea of getting a little fund together. I am sure that if after the accident that a post came up we would have come to the same conclusion.
on a side note; The band needs to take more care of their business practices or hire someone to do so.
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the band also makes about 1000+bucks per gig.
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i definitely agree.
we should definitely keep these ideas at hand for the puppet house/future shows and give the money to the entire BAND for whatever use they need it. they make little money as it is after driving to a gig, staying wherever, etc.
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I know a lot of us are broke or have very little extra money to give away.
The best thing I can think of and this will effect the entire band, is to promote relentlessly for every show. If shows begin to be sold out, they will make more money in due time.
I came to the conclusion last evening, as this was reconfirmed in my own head, that the Breakfast is the BEST BAND IN THE COUNTRY, IF NOT THE WORLD. I really mean this. I was so impressed during Hard Luck Harry, that I would have head-butted the first person who told me otherwise.
With that being said, it is now time to take the promotion of this band up a notch, especially outside of CT and most of the northeast.
Promote!
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Van + Trailer = 30 grand at least! Ok boys, hop on it, lets go get this money!
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i think we have a better chance comin up with 1000 dollars than we have coming up with 10000+dollars.
ill still blown outta the water by the whole get off tpalms dick line.
my mind=blown
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Dave, well said - I agree wholeheartedly. They can do without a guitar, but they can\'t do without transportation, especially with talk of a Midwest tour. Let\'s not stop brainstorming for ways to put some money into the band\'s pocket, but maybe rethink who it goes to.
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here\'s my problem..
i think this is really cute that you guys wanna come together so timmy could replace his guitar.. but tell me - where\'s the fund to raise money for the van that the band lost in an accident 2 months ago? right now, the band doesn\'t even have a vehicle to get from show to show in, because it was (more or less) destroyed in an accident. where are the raffle tickets for that??
i\'m sorry, but to me, that sure as hell sounds like a better idea than trying to replace something that tim lost due to his own stupidity. last time i checked, tim had another guitar.. i think he may have even played it last night.
i seriously think this band would be much better off if a lot of people stepped back and hopped off tim\'s dick for a minute, and maybe hopped onto the band\'s collective dick for once.
tell me your kidding me right now....
last time i checked,tailgating behind a vehicle and crashing into a pole is pretty stupid too.
get off timmys dick?
tell me your kidding me right now...
i\'d apologize for the rant, but i\'m not sorry. flame away.
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Raffle=def way to go with this.
I will be willing to do my part and try to make it to another TT show (like i really need an excuse) and bring all the tip money i can.
ill talk to aruny about drawing a limited edition piece of heady art that can also be autographed by the band.
great idea...i saw john\'s famjam painting yesterday and it was amazing! would def be willing to spend 20ish bucks on a signed limited edition aruny original commemorating (sp?) these upcoming preconfirmed epic events.
edit: guess i shoulda waited a minute to put in my fiddy cents....much truth to the rant dpeck
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what amp did he have stolen? I have an amp that I\'m pretty sure Tim would love to get his hands on....Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+ 60/100 watt Simul Class Head and a 2x12 rectifier cabinet. Not the best for touring though as the cabinet will bring your gas mileage down at least 2mpg. I know he plays a Mark IV combo. The only thing is that I cant donate it or sell it unless the bid price comes in over $1500....for the head alone.
what amp did he have stolen? It could have been his Mesa Mark IV since he didnt have it at 10klf. I have an amp that I\'m pretty sure Tim would love to get his hands on....Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+ 60/100 watt Simul Class Head and a 2x12 rectifier cabinet. Not the best for touring though as the cabinet will bring your gas mileage down at least 2mpg. I know he plays a Mark IV combo. The only thing is that I cant donate it or sell it unless the bid price comes in over $1500....for the head alone.
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here\'s my problem..
i think this is really cute that you guys wanna come together so timmy could replace his guitar.. but tell me - where\'s the fund to raise money for the van that the band lost in an accident 2 months ago? right now, the band doesn\'t even have a vehicle to get from show to show in, because it was (more or less) destroyed in an accident. where are the raffle tickets for that??
i\'m sorry, but to me, that sure as hell sounds like a better idea than trying to replace something that tim lost due to his own stupidity. last time i checked, tim had another guitar.. i think he may have even played it last night.
i seriously think this band would be much better off if a lot of people stepped back and hopped off tim\'s dick for a minute, and maybe hopped onto the band\'s collective dick for once.
i\'d apologize for the rant, but i\'m not sorry. flame away.
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i like fitzy\'s idea.
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I was so impressed during Hard Luck Harry, that I would have head-butted the first person who told me otherwise.
Man, you were itchin\' to head butt someone yesterday. Too bad someone didn\'t point out that dude in the Hawaiian shirt that was annoying everyone.
dudes in hawaiian shirts=no good.
seriously though,heres what i came up with,a few autographed,framed pics of timmy and the boys,and ill talk to aruny about drawing a limited edition piece of heady art that can also be autographed by the band.
how about a signed copy of the sully\'s dvd? if someone wants to make artwork for the cover and disc labels and send it to me as an adobe illustrator file that would be a good prize and would help sell a lot more tickets.
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I was so impressed during Hard Luck Harry, that I would have head-butted the first person who told me otherwise.
Man, you were itchin\' to head butt someone yesterday. Too bad someone didn\'t point out that dude in the Hawaiian shirt that was annoying everyone.
dudes in hawaiian shirts=no good.
seriously though,heres what i came up with,a few autographed,framed pics of timmy and the boys,and ill talk to aruny about drawing a limited edition piece of heady art that can also be autographed by the band.
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I was so impressed during Hard Luck Harry, that I would have head-butted the first person who told me otherwise.
Man, you were itchin\' to head butt someone yesterday. Too bad someone didn\'t point out that dude in the Hawaiian shirt that was annoying everyone.
I would have loved to headbutt that dude.
Is he a member of this board? Probably not, because one of us would have known. I am sort of upset that no head butting took place.
However, here is my new proposal, an acoustic Buquebus or Rufus this Friday and watch out!
Back to the thread at hand;
Ser Cut Me Some Slack last night. I can\'t wait for the release of the video and/or recording. All of the jams into other songs were tight and flawless.
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I was so impressed during Hard Luck Harry, that I would have head-butted the first person who told me otherwise.
Man, you were itchin\' to head butt someone yesterday. Too bad someone didn\'t point out that dude in the Hawaiian shirt that was annoying everyone.
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I know a lot of us are broke or have very little extra money to give away.
The best thing I can think of and this will effect the entire band, is to promote relentlessly for every show. If shows begin to be sold out, they will make more money in due time.
I came to the conclusion last evening, as this was reconfirmed in my own head, that the Breakfast is the BEST BAND IN THE COUNTRY, IF NOT THE WORLD. I really mean this. I was so impressed during Hard Luck Harry, that I would have head-butted the first person who told me otherwise.
With that being said, it is now time to take the promotion of this band up a notch, especially outside of CT and most of the northeast.
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Hmmmm.....good idea, Chris. I\'ll send a check made out to you that you can cash and buy my raffle tickets with. I trust you enough not to pocket the cash ;)
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I see your point.
Would the band call the winner before the encore?
Sounds good to me, even though I probably wouldn\'t be there.
kate, if you want i can just buy raffle tickets for you at the show. if you were planning on sending a check anyway at least have a chance to win the raffle if it ends up happening.
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I see your point.
Would the band call the winner before the encore?
Sounds good to me, even though I probably wouldn\'t be there.
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If I was working, had the money on hand, the ticket price was a buck, I\'d hand ya 20....
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$1 a tix is a good idea, 1 tix per person sort of defeats the purpose. oh and whose got my heady grilled cheese?????????????
as far as those of us who are unable to attend timmytour what can we do?
although i do feel for tim the fact that this has happen more than once its kind of difficult for me to lend out cash to someone I barely know given the fact hes the frontman of my fav. band, and without his top equipemnt the whole band may be affected.
i have a hard enough time scrapping enough cash to get to breakfast shows let alone heading down to CT for at least one tp show, especially since i make very little at my job. the best i think i can do is promote the band by giving out free samplers of hte breakfast at those shows I work at as well as those I attend.
however with that being said. the first time it happened should of been enough for me to make sure I had all of my equipment insuranced as well as locked in a safe place.
god bless tim, ron, adrian, jordan i sure hope something like this never happens again.
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I see your point.
def. dollar ticket, then people can buy more. for some reason I was thinking only 1 ticket per person but that really doesn\'t work.
$1/ticket and then someone who is feeling ambitious can spend all their money on it. Good thinking. Would the band call the winner before the encore?
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i was thinkin about a dollar or 2 a ticket.
some folks will spend 10 or more,but some folks probably wont even have 10 to their name.
maybe a timmy shot or 2(the rockstar jump shot would be ser),and a full band shot or 2.
can we get anything else to beef up this raffle
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i was thinkin about a dollar or 2 a ticket.
some folks will spend 10 or more,but some folks probably wont even have 10 to their name.
maybe a timmy shot or 2(the rockstar jump shot would be ser),and a full band shot or 2.
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That is what I am talking about. A couple of ser shots and autographed sell tickets for 10 bucks, do 1 each night, and we can make some money for him. I think this is a great idea. Also, because Puppet House is BYOB (isn\'t it?), people won\'t have to spend a ton of money on beers thus leaving a few dollars left in their pockets to buy tickets.
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i think i gotta agree with kate here. doesnt need to stop us from trying to help though.
Absolutely...I\'ll be the first one to mail a check to Tim for as much as I can spare and do promo for Midwest shows.
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hold on a second folks,how can anyone not be sympathetic towards a friend getting his **** robbed.
i know he left the van in a commuter lot for 3 days,but that ceratinly dosent give anyone the right to take his stuff.i clearly remember the first day he got that telecaster.blues cafe was the show and the dude was stoked about it.over the years the sentimental value alone would upset the schnot outta me.we gotta hook timmy up.
throwing money in the tiptruck is something that we do anyway.also,the same 20 dudes from here are at basically every timmytour show.what about the folks who dont come down to the shows?i
im gonna call ms.greenberg and see if she has a ser shot or 2 of tpalms that he could autograph,well frame it and raffle it off at the puppethouse shows.
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vending what though heady grilled cheese?:wink:
made with the finest dank afganhi butter
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vending what though heady grilled cheese?:wink:
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1) Get a decent insurance plan. I can\'t believe Tim and the guys don\'t have one for their equipment.
2) Don\'t leave thousands of dollars of equipment in a van in a parking lot for 3 days. I know it sounds bad, but I don\'t blame someone for stealing his stuff. He left it out in the open when he should have unloaded it and left it at a friend\'s house.
i think i gotta agree with kate here. doesnt need to stop us from trying to help though.
bingo
vending the puppethouse lot seems to be the logical direction
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1) Get a decent insurance plan. I can\'t believe Tim and the guys don\'t have one for their equipment.
2) Don\'t leave thousands of dollars of equipment in a van in a parking lot for 3 days. I know it sounds bad, but I don\'t blame someone for stealing his stuff. He left it out in the open when he should have unloaded it and left it at a friend\'s house.
i think i gotta agree with kate here. doesnt need to stop us from trying to help though.
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No one here seems to remember, that the numbers after UAC were in the red. That kind of situation would not be for the best
Hopefully insurance will cover it, I was at Tim\'s before Rocks Off and he was on the phone with his music insurance company, and it saounded like it might be good news but we\'ll see as things progress
selective memory loss. i\'ve already admitted that i\'m just in this for another private party breakfast show.
You are also talking about a show that would have to be 21+ and a very expensive ticket.
logically impossible to pull off a successful gig under these conditions.
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Me!; You are right, the last UAC did lose a little cash.
That is why I stated then if this was going to be done, promoing and getting people there is the toughest part. You are also talking about a show that would have to be 21+ and a very expensive ticket.
I hope that his insurance covers it because producing this kind of event takes a lot of time and energy. More then most of us can put aside and realistically put an honest effort up.
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No one here seems to remember, that the numbers after UAC were in the red. That kind of situation would not be for the best
Hopefully insurance will cover it, I was at Tim\'s before Rocks Off and he was on the phone with his music insurance company, and it saounded like it might be good news but we\'ll see as things progress
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now, if we can come up with a N20 tank then we can make the money back in no time, but that is not here nor there ;)
fast shadey cash. anyone know a crooked dentist?
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True, kindm\'s.
If we focus our intentions on the Puppet House, what can we sell? Food, like burgers, dogs, grilled cheeses? Can we sell alcohol at the Puppet House?
now, if we can come up with a N20 tank then we can make the money back in no time, but that is not here nor there ;)
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i think insurance is gonna cover it
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I am not sure if folks were looking out on e-bay but this is the first I had heard about it. I know it is a long shot but if this happens again let us know. We could have atleast kept an eye out for his stuff
As far as a raffle goes I would be more than happy to donate PB/ The breakfast CD\'s / DVD\'s to the cause.
I also am sure that my friend Kyle would probably donate a few nice concert photos or something along those lines.
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dave, i\'m with ya. it is a shitty lesson (that i hope tim learned from this time around).
If Tim could do a solo show in Lafayette or Chicago on a Thursday > full band Friday and Saturday, I\'m sure he could make some money off tips and whatnot. I\'d promote the snot out of it, of course.
please think realistically for a second here...
the guys would spend a significant amount of money to get out there, stay in a hotel, etc to begin with. it sounds like a nice idea, but they would make very very little money on something like that.
i like spacey and slimpicken\'s ideas on this subject. a UAC show is way too much time, effort, money, but something like a raffle or selling shots/"heady" beers at puppet lot would be helpful.
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Dave, my thoughts exactly. When Freddie told me about this a couple weeks ago, I had a hard time feeling sympathetic. If his equipment really meant all that much to him, he would have taken the necessary precautions. Hopefully this will be a wake-up call to the guys that they need to get their act together and get a collective insurance plan.
Don\'t get me wrong, I care a lot about these guys and want only the best for them. It\'s just that at this point, you\'d think they\'d have the money business taken care of. If they want to get bigger, they\'re going to have to hunker down and work out financial/legal stuff and get some professionals to help them out.
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1) Get a decent insurance plan. I can\'t believe Tim and the guys don\'t have one for their equipment.
2) Don\'t leave thousands of dollars of equipment in a van in a parking lot for 3 days. I know it sounds bad, but I don\'t blame someone for stealing his stuff. He left it out in the open when he should have unloaded it and left it at a friend\'s house.
thank you kate for being the voice of reason here...
guys, seriously.. if you want to donate money to tim for new equipment, hand him some cash. i\'m sorry, i love tim dearly, but i have a real hard time feeling bad about this. does it suck? sure.. but he left his gear in a van in a public parking lot for a weekend while he was thousands of miles away, AND he\'s had equipment stolen (the same way) more than once before..
is stealing right? hell no.. but whatever happened to learning from your mistakes???
You are right. It sucks but a little care and thinking and learning from previous experience and it wouldn\'t have happened.
if it is possible for Tim to claim this through insurance then he should look into it. I also know that just about anything in the world is insurable. Lloyds of London will insure anything (If I remember correctly), Peyton Manning\'s arm is worth $10 Million.
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1) Get a decent insurance plan. I can\'t believe Tim and the guys don\'t have one for their equipment.
2) Don\'t leave thousands of dollars of equipment in a van in a parking lot for 3 days. I know it sounds bad, but I don\'t blame someone for stealing his stuff. He left it out in the open when he should have unloaded it and left it at a friend\'s house.
tough love
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Kids who live in off-campus housing do it all the time when they get jacked. He would have to cover the deductible (normally 500) and may have to show proof of ownership. Than do the whole UAC thing anyway and be AHEAD of the game
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1) Get a decent insurance plan. I can\'t believe Tim and the guys don\'t have one for their equipment.
2) Don\'t leave thousands of dollars of equipment in a van in a parking lot for 3 days. I know it sounds bad, but I don\'t blame someone for stealing his stuff. He left it out in the open when he should have unloaded it and left it at a friend\'s house.
thank you kate for being the voice of reason here...
guys, seriously.. if you want to donate money to tim for new equipment, hand him some cash. i\'m sorry, i love tim dearly, but i have a real hard time feeling bad about this. does it suck? sure.. but he left his gear in a van in a public parking lot for a weekend while he was thousands of miles away, AND he\'s had equipment stolen (the same way) more than once before..
is stealing right? hell no.. but whatever happened to learning from your mistakes???
Is this the 4th time that equipment has been stolen from the band?
i believe 3rd, but.. hey, who\'s counting?
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If Tim could do a solo show in Lafayette or Chicago on a Thursday > full band Friday and Saturday, I\'m sure he could make some money off tips and whatnot. I\'d promote the snot out of it, of course.
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If the .info members organized or help organized a show at UAC it will take a lot of work and dedication from all of us. Someone would need to book the joint (probably some cash upfront), make sure the band is able to play the date, we would need alcohol and other goodies (possibly some people can "donate" to this cause), then we would need to promote it (which seems to be the toughest part of the equation, we probably would need to sell it out).
Like Antbach said, if the band is trying to push out west then the trouble of doing this becomes short notice. If that falls through, we should think about doing a fundraiser at the Fungoulish Freakout.
There are many avenues to explore here. We might be able to go around to local businesses and get some sponsors for the event. I think we really need to brainstorm and explore all our options. It is a lot of work but if each of us can contribute to helping out, then the load will be displaced amongst the group. We would still need a competent and reliable leader to head this entire thing.
man, that\'s a lot of work. i\'m tired just reading about it. i don\'t think this HAS TO BE before fall tour. could be a fun and meaningful homecoming.
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Is this the 4th time that equipment has been stolen from the band?
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There is coverage under his parents homeowners policy, less their deductible, as long as he says he lives there. Really easy solution...
TPalms doesn\'t live with his parents.
as long as he says he lives there.
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1) Get a decent insurance plan. I can\'t believe Tim and the guys don\'t have one for their equipment.
2) Don\'t leave thousands of dollars of equipment in a van in a parking lot for 3 days. I know it sounds bad, but I don\'t blame someone for stealing his stuff. He left it out in the open when he should have unloaded it and left it at a friend\'s house.
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If the .info members organized or help organized a show at UAC it will take a lot of work and dedication from all of us. Someone would need to book the joint (probably some cash upfront), make sure the band is able to play the date, we would need alcohol and other goodies (possibly some people can "donate" to this cause), then we would need to promote it (which seems to be the toughest part of the equation, we probably would need to sell it out).
Like Antbach said, if the band is trying to push out west then the trouble of doing this becomes short notice. If that falls through, we should think about doing a fundraiser at the Fungoulish Freakout.
There are many avenues to explore here. We might be able to go around to local businesses and get some sponsors for the event. I think we really need to brainstorm and explore all our options. It is a lot of work but if each of us can contribute to helping out, then the load will be displaced amongst the group. We would still need a competent and reliable leader to head this entire thing.
There is coverage under his parents homeowners policy, less their deductible, as long as he says he lives there. Really easy solution...
TPalms doesn\'t live with his parents.
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umm....
timmy tour > tip jar???
yeah, but most of the TT regulars are scrapin\' just for a couple beers. ****, i saw Genc\'s dump a nickel in the tip jar once.
i\'m just looking for any excuse for another family style jam.
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There is coverage under his parents homeowners policy, less their deductible, as long as he says he lives there. Really easy solution...
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umm....
timmy tour > tip jar???
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a UAC type show would work best. But seeing as the band (assuming here) is leaving the northeast for fall tour in a month or so, planning something like that in such short notice would be difficult.
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i don\'t think a UAC-type event is completely outta the question. if someone w/ good organizing skills (ie not me) could get this going, I\'m sure some people would be willing to donate more than just the price of admission to see this happen. i\'d be more than happy to donate a barrel of budweiser for us "shitty-beer" snobs... **** I might even be talked into bringin\' some whiskey for shootin\'./
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What about some sort of fundraiser?
I\'m sure that a UAC gig could work but by the time the band is paid off and whoever else made it happens gets their investment back, the money would be minimal.
Is there any PB/The Breakfast memorablia that we could auction off as a fundraiser? Possibly, signed pictures/cds or something along those lines. Like a raffel, possibly something at the puppet house, if there are any Puppet House Posters, get the band to autograph them and then sell tickets for a couple of bucks.
It is a lot of money to recover and it is going to take a lot of kind people to make it back, but with a logical and real idea, we can raise the money.
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Damn! That\'s gotta be close to 2G\'s in equipment. UAC could defintely work.
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This is a tough one, hmmm?
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I know how his items can be partially covered via insurance
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:chin:Let\'s do another UAC party... all profits/donations for Tmn8r
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im not sure if this has been discussed on here at all,but when tpalms got to the commuter lot in his hometown of norwalk after playing 10000 lakes,somebody ganked his telecaster/amp/pa out of his van.
NOT COOL!
its his 4th fender that has been stolen from him,and im not sure what the insurance situation is,but i think as fans/friends of the dude,we should try to put something together to help out a bit.
any ideas?