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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: Spacey on July 08, 2005, 12:35:55 pm
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The understanding that everything in the Universe is energy and that all energy is at different levels of vibration and frequency, indicates that all planets and their inhabitants vibrate at different levels. Planet Earth is a third dimensional planet with forth and fifth dimension activity in progression. Currently the beings on the planet Earth are estimated to be 60 percent in the third dimensional plane, thirty five percent in the forth and five percent in the fifth.
The planet Earth is currently going through a dimensional ascension, moving from third to fourth with the goal of being in the fifth. For individuals to shift with the planetary ascension, they must individually focus on raising their vibration / frequency level. Each dimension has seven planes. As vibration levels are raised (by releasing all blockages in the physical, emotional and mental bodies) the shift in frequency uplifts the person to the higher planes. To fully evolve into the fifth dimension the person must open up to unconditional love, expand his/her inner light quotient, be fully forgiving under all circumstances and not generate negative (harmful) thought patterns.
http://www.selftransform.net/DensitiesandDimensions.htm
unreal.. im gonna pick up the book.
fifth dimension hits me as similar to Maslow\'s hierarchy.. D5=self-actualization.
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when i try to sleep i hear ronnie slaming bass lines. adrian\'s pulsing beats, jordan complusive key strokes. and of course timmy shedding strings on lead guitar thus allowing me the power to dream and chose
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I like RR for the fact that you can actually hear the lyrics and get them stuck in your head all day. Fairy common
I experience many Breakfast songs stuck in my head in any given week and I often sing the lyrics aloud.
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I agree, it lost its impact or reason for the book in the fist place. at that point you need to pick out what you were meant to learn from it and forget the story line. I have a pocket book of the 10 insights, perfect handy reminder.
speaking of points.... back to the thread at hand. I like RR for the fact that you can actually hear the lyrics and get them stuck in your head all day. Fairy common
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oh the actual practical content is wonderful, but the plot was just so silly in the 2nd book, almost laughable at times, that i think it kinda detracted from the bigger picture it was trying to convey.
you might enjoy "the mayan calendar and the transformation of consciousness" i forget who wrote it, i\'ll get back to you on that.
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I enjoyed the whole series (3-4 books). and some of it really kind of works.
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the celestine prophecy was a good introduction into a practical spirituality, but the sequel really stunk.
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http://www.selftransform.net/DensitiesandDimensions.htm
Read the F\'n Book.
that\'s kind of what the Celestine Prophecy is all about.
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"energy is everything and sharing is to live"
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aruny, thats absolutely correct, we\'re on the cusp of the next big leap in evolution. i mean look at the main difference between us and the animals we evolved from: technology (tools) and communication. in both of these areas, we\'ve come just about as far as we can. i mean look at this message board. through technology we are able to communicate information to just about anyone, and recieve almost any information our little hearts desire. we as a human race are ready for whatever is next. i mean if you look at the positions of the planets/stars/galaxies, we\'re rapidly approaching a celestial positioning that is identical to the positions of the planets/stars/galaxies when the mystical event happened that changed apes to men. for the mayan\'s it is the end of their calender, some call it the 2nd coming of christ (which i believe to be the realization that we are all spiritual beings on the same level that christ supposedly was), some say that current events are operating in parallel with the book of revalations, whatever it is, something big is coming, and it\'s coming soon. the end of the mayan calendar falls on dec 21st of 2012. i don\'t know if that is actually the date that human consciousness will change, but i do know that the mayans were pretty dead on about most things. its interesting stuff. its huge in fact. kinda instills a little faith that there is some bigger picture to things, outside of our control.
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****, for a minute I thought you wrote that yourself
"there is no time, only vibrations...love is the key"
D5
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The understanding that everything in the Universe is energy and that all energy is at different levels of vibration and frequency, indicates that all planets and their inhabitants vibrate at different levels. Planet Earth is a third dimensional planet with forth and fifth dimension activity in progression. Currently the beings on the planet Earth are estimated to be 60 percent in the third dimensional plane, thirty five percent in the forth and five percent in the fifth.
The planet Earth is currently going through a dimensional ascension, moving from third to fourth with the goal of being in the fifth. For individuals to shift with the planetary ascension, they must individually focus on raising their vibration / frequency level. Each dimension has seven planes. As vibration levels are raised (by releasing all blockages in the physical, emotional and mental bodies) the shift in frequency uplifts the person to the higher planes. To fully evolve into the fifth dimension the person must open up to unconditional love, expand his/her inner light quotient, be fully forgiving under all circumstances and not generate negative (harmful) thought patterns.
http://www.selftransform.net/DensitiesandDimensions.htm
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**** you\'re right i\'m gonna listen to d5, what a good song.
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What is this place?
All these beautiful feelings
There is no time
Only vibrations
I lost my outlines
In a madhouse of colors
The universe
I love like no other
mmight I add Ronnie sings like this song like no other, and your right Spacey this song does have potential
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I am surprised that it hasn\'t been played more. It should be played at least once a week. Song, IMO, has potential.
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Dimension 5 is one of the best songs on Real Radio.
Fair review, I think. Breakfast is 1000x better live.
Wish I knew why D5 is already in the shitcan. What a great tune!
I\'m sure it doesnt help The Breakfast much that there arent really any stations in CT to play music.
fixed.
Truth to that! Mainstream radio in CT is the saddest thing ever.
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here here!
I think I\'m going to play Real Radio yet again (I\'ve listened to it a half dozen times in the past week) because I love it.
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there are really 2 ways of looking at this:
1) "well this is how the music business \'SHOULD\' be and this is how people \'SHOULD\' listen to music.... etc"
2) "this is how the business IS, and right or wrong, one must cater to it in order to experience any degree of success."
whereas i can identify with the reviewer in his gripes about music in general, i think that real radio is just the beginning of what can be a really incredible studio direction for the band. these guys can write, and this being their first really polished, well produced record, i think we can expect that this will only improve with time and upcoming releases. new tunes should be on their way soon from what i understand, and personally, i\'m really excited to see what these guys will bring.
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As you all can see....there are a myriad of opinions even among folks who love the band.
Just for the record (sic) we simply set out to make excellent focused recording that showcased to songs as best as we could. Why...because Bona Fide was widely criticised by folks who felt the songwriting was weak. I wanted to show that the band could A) write songs, and B) sing.
I am quite comfortable that we did that, as is the band. As for jamming....we already did two records which proved the band could do that. Plus you can see the band do that at gigs all over, many of which are also available recorded form. We were not trying to beat the live versions of the songs.....we were trying to define the songs that the jams grow out of.
If we did another Bona Fide, everyone would have continued to snipe at the band as a one trick pony that could jam but not sing or write a decent song. We did not want to go that route again.
Cream had a lot of the same problems.....but the record Cream is remembered for is Disreaili Gears...the song album. Not Wheels of Fire, the live album.
Collectively, we did what we felt was creatively the right thing to do. Tim and the band have a lot of influences and interests that supercede just jamming, and we will continue to develope those interests as the band evolves.
Critics will continue to write articles about what THEY think we should do, which is inevitable. We will continue to do what we think is best for the band.
Personally, I think you guys hit the nail on the head with a looonnngggg overdue display of the refined talent that the band is capable of. Let the critics have their feast....in the end we\'ll be laughing at them!!!
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The Breakfast are just trying to appeal to more of the masses with an album like RR. Just releasing live stuff appeals to the "Jam Band" crowd, but that throws away the possibility of having a radio friendly song. The Breakfast are trying to make an explosive album showcasing their energy without a 15 minute jam, one thing that phish was criticized for not being albe to accomplish.
good point...very well said....I think that its very important for a band to be able to reach people on all levels....espescually in the begining of there musical journey.....
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yea your right, well who listens to the radio these days anyways.
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I\'m sure it doesnt help The Breakfast much that there arent really any stations in CT to play music.
fixed.
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I\'m sure it doesnt help The Breakfast much that there arent really any "rock" stations in CT to play their music. Just 99.1 and 106.9.
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Cream had a lot of the same problems.....but the record Cream is remembered for is Disreaili Gears...the song album. Not Wheels of Fire, the live album.
Collectively, we did what we felt was creatively the right thing to do. Tim and the band have a lot of influences and interests that supercede just jamming, and we will continue to develope those interests as the band evolves.
speaking of cream just checked relix.com and seems as though cream is reuniting at msg for a 3 nite run in oct.
also if the point of RR was to showcase the bands ability to write and sing songs than it was accomplished and it def. not be considered a flop inthe yrs to come. and to take on a smoking grand scheme of things is just plain out of this world. plus some of the catchy beats or hooks on RR should be getting some radio play. so much so I may request some to EQX inmy area since its considerd the only alternative and see what happens.
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As you all can see....there are a myriad of opinions even among folks who love the band.
Just for the record (sic) we simply set out to make excellent focused recording that showcased to songs as best as we could. Why...because Bona Fide was widely criticised by folks who felt the songwriting was weak. I wanted to show that the band could A) write songs, and B) sing.
I am quite comfortable that we did that, as is the band. As for jamming....we already did two records which proved the band could do that. Plus you can see the band do that at gigs all over, many of which are also available recorded form. We were not trying to beat the live versions of the songs.....we were trying to define the songs that the jams grow out of.
If we did another Bona Fide, everyone would have continued to snipe at the band as a one trick pony that could jam but not sing or write a decent song. We did not want to go that route again.
Cream had a lot of the same problems.....but the record Cream is remembered for is Disreaili Gears...the song album. Not Wheels of Fire, the live album.
Collectively, we did what we felt was creatively the right thing to do. Tim and the band have a lot of influences and interests that supercede just jamming, and we will continue to develope those interests as the band evolves.
Critics will continue to write articles about what THEY think we should do, which is inevitable. We will continue to do what we think is best for the band.
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definitely solid bezerker.. got the point across, i agree with you and the guys rebuttal after your post too. some, not all, of his reasons are legitimate. buuuut, he also said Brothers Past has the best jam studio album of the year which is, LAUGHABLE MAN.
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that website that had the interview has a forum on it. why dont you post your own review right there. thats a good place to start.
thanks for the motivation chris. i just posted a review of the band on the glide website. here it is if you want to check it out. http://www.glidemagazine.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=456#456
bezerker, I read what u wrote and all i can say is good ****
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The Breakfast are just trying to appeal to more of the masses with an album like RR. Just releasing live stuff appeals to the "Jam Band" crowd, but that throws away the possibility of having a radio friendly song. The Breakfast are trying to make an explosive album showcasing their energy without a 15 minute jam, one thing that phish was criticized for not being albe to accomplish.
i disagree with the Phish statement. i think they accomplished it numerous times from the start. sure theyd have their jammed out tracks, but i still prefer their studio **** over their live shows. they all held a theme IMO, they all flowed great, and they had plenty of strong songs that didnt go past the 6 minute mark. off the top of my head:
Fee
Squirming Coil
Rift
Mound
Free
Character Zero
Waste
Billy Breathes
Llama
Mango Song
The Wedge
Birds Of A Feather
Limb By Limb
Water In The Sky
Talk
Dirt
etc.
etc.
etc....
dont get me wrong, ill support TB as much as i can in any way, whether if its w/$ or passing out discs at shows or just being a loud mouth about how good they are, but when i listen to Real Radio i feel like im forcing myself to \'really like it,\' something that wasnt an issue with Deuce and Bona Fide. im excited for their next album (whenever that may be, hopefully not 3 years or whatever it was) cuz theyre still so young and theyre getting better. just think RR will end up being a flop of an album in their discography down the road.
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I may add that whether or not the album is everything you want it to be, it\'s the current business endeavor and the band has committed to it.
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The Breakfast are just trying to appeal to more of the masses with an album like RR. Just releasing live stuff appeals to the "Jam Band" crowd, but that throws away the possibility of having a radio friendly song. The Breakfast are trying to make an explosive album showcasing their energy without a 15 minute jam, one thing that phish was criticized for not being albe to accomplish.
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personally, i think the guy\'s gripes are less about the breakfast specifically, and more about the state of popular music today. he\'s right, trying to get a band like the breakfast to deliver in the studio like they deliver on stage is like trying to write a book on exactly what moves a player must make to win a basketball game or something rediculous like that. it just cant be done. i personally think that the band should be releasing live albums. if they had taken the same songs and same production budget and released a live version of real radio, i think this reviewer and many others might have taken to it better. we know and love the songs because we\'ve been hearing them live for a WHILE, so we KNOW what their potential is. people who are not as familiar with these songs and are hearing them maybe for the first time, they dont know what we know. remember how it took people a while to get into fresh cut? we had to hear it live a bunch of times before we realized what a good tune it is. i think thats what this reviewer is saying. sadly, he came across kind of aggressive, but i think i agree with his basic idea about music (especially jam bands) in general.
thats why i think Bona Fide is so much better than Real Radio. you get those true runs inbewteen verses and energy start to finish on every tune. i love this band\'s music much more than anything else ive ever heard, but RR still just makes me want to put on a live show immediately. Score is my favorite track simply b/c they got horns and its never happened live, every other song has numerous live versions that just blow the studio tracks outta the water.
not way man.
bonafide=chopped up,pieced together rock show,with overdubs and the such..
no way man.
bonafide=ridiculous energy with great sound quality and well done overdubs. oh yeah, also a nasty Drunk Monk Bar, perfect Spunk, hot hot hot Lanta, and some song called Rufus that aint so bad either.
bottom line its all opinion, if i got some people over im reaching for BF, RR can hide in the corner for all i care.
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personally, i think the guy\'s gripes are less about the breakfast specifically, and more about the state of popular music today. he\'s right, trying to get a band like the breakfast to deliver in the studio like they deliver on stage is like trying to write a book on exactly what moves a player must make to win a basketball game or something rediculous like that. it just cant be done. i personally think that the band should be releasing live albums. if they had taken the same songs and same production budget and released a live version of real radio, i think this reviewer and many others might have taken to it better. we know and love the songs because we\'ve been hearing them live for a WHILE, so we KNOW what their potential is. people who are not as familiar with these songs and are hearing them maybe for the first time, they dont know what we know. remember how it took people a while to get into fresh cut? we had to hear it live a bunch of times before we realized what a good tune it is. i think thats what this reviewer is saying. sadly, he came across kind of aggressive, but i think i agree with his basic idea about music (especially jam bands) in general.
thats why i think Bona Fide is so much better than Real Radio. you get those true runs inbewteen verses and energy start to finish on every tune. i love this band\'s music much more than anything else ive ever heard, but RR still just makes me want to put on a live show immediately. Score is my favorite track simply b/c they got horns and its never happened live, every other song has numerous live versions that just blow the studio tracks outta the water.
not way man.
bonafide=chopped up,pieced together rock show,with overdubs and the such..
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Puppet house shows should be released. Does that mean that they would have to pay for playing an entire classic rock album.
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personally, i think the guy\'s gripes are less about the breakfast specifically, and more about the state of popular music today. he\'s right, trying to get a band like the breakfast to deliver in the studio like they deliver on stage is like trying to write a book on exactly what moves a player must make to win a basketball game or something rediculous like that. it just cant be done. i personally think that the band should be releasing live albums. if they had taken the same songs and same production budget and released a live version of real radio, i think this reviewer and many others might have taken to it better. we know and love the songs because we\'ve been hearing them live for a WHILE, so we KNOW what their potential is. people who are not as familiar with these songs and are hearing them maybe for the first time, they dont know what we know. remember how it took people a while to get into fresh cut? we had to hear it live a bunch of times before we realized what a good tune it is. i think thats what this reviewer is saying. sadly, he came across kind of aggressive, but i think i agree with his basic idea about music (especially jam bands) in general.
thats why i think Bona Fide is so much better than Real Radio. you get those true runs inbewteen verses and energy start to finish on every tune. i love this band\'s music much more than anything else ive ever heard, but RR still just makes me want to put on a live show immediately. Score is my favorite track simply b/c they got horns and its never happened live, every other song has numerous live versions that just blow the studio tracks outta the water.
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Dimension 5 is one of the best songs on Real Radio.
Fair review, I think. Breakfast is 1000x better live.
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We should start our own marketing campaign and write reviews and send them into every media facet.
that website that had the interview has a forum on it. why dont you post your own review right there. thats a good place to start.
Chris,
Excellent idea, didn\'t even notice that.
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that website that had the interview has a forum on it. why dont you post your own review right there. thats a good place to start.
thanks for the motivation chris. i just posted a review of the band on the glide website. here it is if you want to check it out. http://www.glidemagazine.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=456#456
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We should start our own marketing campaign and write reviews and send them into every media facet.
that website that had the interview has a forum on it. why dont you post your own review right there. thats a good place to start.
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Radio pressure causes problems for so many good jambands. Sigh.
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personally, i think the guy\'s gripes are less about the breakfast specifically, and more about the state of popular music today. he\'s right, trying to get a band like the breakfast to deliver in the studio like they deliver on stage is like trying to write a book on exactly what moves a player must make to win a basketball game or something rediculous like that. it just cant be done. i personally think that the band should be releasing live albums. if they had taken the same songs and same production budget and released a live version of real radio, i think this reviewer and many others might have taken to it better. we know and love the songs because we\'ve been hearing them live for a WHILE, so we KNOW what their potential is. people who are not as familiar with these songs and are hearing them maybe for the first time, they dont know what we know. remember how it took people a while to get into fresh cut? we had to hear it live a bunch of times before we realized what a good tune it is. i think thats what this reviewer is saying. sadly, he came across kind of aggressive, but i think i agree with his basic idea about music (especially jam bands) in general.
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We should consistenly preach Breakfast and get these guys good publicity.
i do consistently preach breakfast no matter where I am and have definetly gotten them a lot of fans. they are the best, let people know that and give them cds, its the only way to get them to understand, unless you can drag \'em to a show which is hard since most are so far away and they are all sallys. sending good reviews out will definetly help tons too........especially since most are bullshit !
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Dude is clueless. We should start our own marketing campaign and write reviews and send them into every media facet. And keep sending until they answer or print our ****. Everytown has a local guide to what is going on. I know Providence and Southeastern Mass has the Phoenix, Boston too. CT has Play and the Hartford/New Haven Advocate. We should consistenly preach Breakfast and get these guys good publicity.
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I Think RR owns and those **** are only looking for excuses to **** on the boys. its like he went through every song, listening just to hear things he hated and then put it in the review. **** him and feed him beans
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i tstll think rlea radio is weak............. thats alllll
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ouch! that\'s a tough review!
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I think that guy gets it up the ass......how the **** could somebody actually say that the breakfast\'s songs are weak....allthough I understand and agree that capturing the energy of a jam on tape is almost impossible...I think its safe to say that the breakfast does a pretty good job...
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i think genc\'s wrote a jambands review once
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Who writes the jambands.com reviews? An insider or independent voice? I really don\'t think the guy had any legitimate criticisms of the songs.
On another note, I still plan to make good on my intentions of getting more Breakfast in the press (hopefully more praise). There are lots of influential music columnists who can elevate the awareness of our beloved Staven boys.
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LOL....I didn\'t post that drek here to save a annoyance. But hey...its a free country and this guy is totally free to be a moron is he wants.
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I don\'t listen to studio albums for jambands, mostly because they end of portraying a different side that you don\'t see unless it is on an album. I agree that more of us from .info should take up writing reviews of shows and albums and persistently sending them out to all jamband and other musical outlets. The Breakfast are better then the jamband moniker, maybe we should approach it on a different angle.
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Real Radio is awesome and my/our sentiment needs to captured in more reviews.
What other jamband has produced a better album lately (I\'m really curious to know since I haven\'t heard any)?
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Found this review while searching/surfing the net. Not sure if someone has posted this or has read/seen it. Kinda of a bummer but interesting because, the author says that Real Radio was weak but, their live shows make your jaws drop. I believe this was a midwestener journalist.
The Breakfast
Real Radio
Brian Gearing
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
Most jambands? contradictory attempts to capture their live energy on record are doomed from the start. The rigid studio process is antithetical to their without-a-net aesthetic, and most just aren?t capable of achieving the transcendence they seek without the open canvas of a live audience. The Breakfast have been painting aural gems on Midwest audiences for years, but their instrumental gifts aren?t enough to save the weak songs and limp production of Real Radio.
Much of the record suggests that for The Breakfast, Real Radio last broadcasted in the mid 70s, when guitarist Tim Palmieri would have been worshipped rather than vilified for his technical theatrics, when ?prog,? ?arena? and ?glam? were all terms still to be coined at a later date, and rock and roll was rock and roll, no matter how pretentious. The Breakfast?s third album channels the philosophical weight of Kansas, the poppy harmonies of Boston, and the melodrama of Styx through a 21st Century tie-dyed funnel to create a record heavy on complexity but lacking what little soul much of 70s rock radio had.
The quirky, whitebread funk rock of opener ?Inner Glimpse? drops abruptly into the verse?s warm, floating harmonies, but the reggae bridge, despite Palmieri?s impressive fretwork, is out of place, and the otherwise brilliant Rush-like interlude seems to have come from the latter half of a fifteen-minute live version. Drummer Adrian Tramontano lays down a solid livetronica beat on ?Sleeping Beauty,? but the song is damned by the typical jamband shuffle that also haunts ?Doughboy,? ?Gravity? and ?No Regret.?
The harder edge of ?Fairy? almost cuts through the sludgy production, but the drums and bass aren?t quite sharp enough to open things up. Palmieri?s baseball metaphors don?t mesh with the hot, sweaty funk of ?Score,? and ?Vera Street? is a disastrous example of an improvisational rock band?s attempt to write a sweet love ballad.
Despite its superficial lyrics, the adventurous, pop-punk spirit of ?Dimension 5? gives a glimpse into what The Breakfast is capable of and finally achieves on the ?The Grand Scheme of Things??at twelve minutes-plus, by far the longest track on the album. The closer?s hodge-podge of Zappaisms, jazz, drum solos and soft guitar wanderings is what The Breakfast do best, and what they should focus on, live or otherwise. The fact that jambands are still making studio albums shows just how far the scene is from shifting the music industry paradigm?as well as how dependent they are on it. As long as the pressure for radio fodder exists, bands like The Breakfast will continue to disappoint in the studio while they drop jaws on the stage.
Glide Magazine CD Review (http://www.glidemagazine.com/2/reviews835.html)