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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: Buquebus on May 25, 2005, 01:50:09 am
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Wah, Agree totally with 10k and moe.down being the most important festivals of the summer. If they go out to 10k and seriousily "live with no regret" they will come back a different band. By the time moe.down comes around they should be a fine tuned machine.
Does the band have any summer tourdates outside of the festivals? or are they just going to practice and take a "creative" break?
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vic,10000 lakes festival and moedown are a guaranteed breakfast blowup!!
folks who have never seen these guys,are gonna absoultely lose their **** when they see timmy palmieri play that thing.
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I own the new Relix and have read the review over a few times and I still don\'t understand what the guy feels or is trying to convey. Poor writing on his part and poor representation of the writers ability. I think I am going to take you up on the offer and write a letter to Relix stating my opinion of what I have read from Relix over the last year or so.
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Fred..
I\'m pretty thick skinned when it comes to reviewers.....and I see we sold a few copies on Amazon in the last few days. I just want to see thse guys make some money doing what they love to do.
Press is still press...and hopefully this will bring more people to check out the band and make their own decision.
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the problem is most "music critics" throw a cd in,give it a quick spin,probably fast forward past tracks that arent initially appealing then wrote a bogus review without really having a clue about the album.
if i was a music critic,id listen to the cd 2 or 3 times straight through,then make my judgement/decesion of the album.
this review isnt half as bad as that other clowns review.at least he had some good things to say.
vic,dont get discouraged.i know you dont anyway,but just knwow that the 5 of you guys put out an excellent album.
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With all due respect...no one lightened up anything or even thought about it. What we DID do was try to frame the song content the way we thought it sounded best.
Part of the process of putting out CDs is that you have to deal with that unfortunate creature called "The Music Critic". Everyone has an opinion....but some people put their\'s in print.
If you disagree with the review...write a letter to the editor....not an ugly nasty one....but state your points intelligently and clearly. In other words....do what this guy apparently didn\'t do. I plan to do that myself, if it is what it seems to be. But true fan letters carry more weight and often get printed.
I was with tim the other day and one thing we agreed on was that whatever this guy was going to say....we stood by the record as a work to be proud of.
By the way...there is a 1/4 page ad for the record in the magazine.
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honestly, i know what he\'s trying to get at. the local classic rock station down here is fairly open to playing new things. i figured i\'d pick a particular track, give it to a dj (who i\'ve talked music with before) at one of their meet n greet type things, and see if she would at least try to get it played. but there is no one song on there that is consistant enough to put on the radio for mass consumption (except score, but it has horns which is unrepresentative of the band\'s normal sound). sometimes too light and floaty, sometimes too \'sudden left hand turn\'-y, sometimes too long or atypical.
don\'t get me wrong, i love the songs and wouldn\'t change them, but for \'normal\' folks, its still a little too out there, a few too many changes, nothing really radio friendly, despite the title. certainly closer than they\'ve been in the past, but still not quite ready for crossover. (which shouldn\'t lead you to believe i want them in the mainstream or more \'normal\', i\'m just making a point)
i also don\'t think the album is particularly indicative of their live shows, which makes sense, as they were trying to put out a studio album and not a live in the studio album, but still. the album sounds much lighter and softer than the raging poundfest we all know and love.
reminds me of the buffalo creek show i saw a couple weeks ago. it seemed like they were trying to pull in the reins in order not to affront a room full of strangers, and it only went over so-so. once they cut that out and started being the pummeling machine known as the breakfast, everyone in the room got into it much more and the energy really cranked up. its like, in an attempt to come across with a broader appeal, they hinder themselves from what they do best.
and i think that\'s what the guy was trying to say. when those songs are being played live, the force of the band moves through those changes and contortions and they make plenty of sense, but on the album, they seem \'lite\'ened up and some of the changes seem somewhat contrived or simply like crammed-in extras. it surprises me that someone who presumably listens to bands like these that do interesting and intricate things with music wouldn\'t get it, but if he was giving a general review to not just jamband fans, then i understand.
now then, that being said, folks who are even a little knowledgeable of the breakfast should really like the album because of its clarity of tone (ron\'s bassline on gravity, for instance) and its superb musicianship (except for jeff pevar\'s slide part, which i don\'t think is up to snuff with the rest of the playing). i played it for some friends up in the mountains over breakfast last sunday, and by the end they were swearing by it! i almost gave them my copy, but decided not to so that they\'d have to make it down for a show and buy it themselves.
i think the main thing is that it is so well produced and has such an almost poppy sound, that your brain and ears expect the songs to be more \'typical\' so when there\'s a weird or unusual change, it takes you aback. if some of those changes were removed their might be a greater general appeal, but then the breakfast would be just anopther poppy band and that would suck! i say, keep the changes but next time try to make a harder hitting album and shut any and all naysayers right the **** on up!
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I remember reading a review in relix about TB a while ago and it saying something to the effect that Tim\'s solos were "like...too crazy" or something. I\'m pretty certain that was the last time I even picked up one to look at.
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He\'s probably sleeping on the machine.
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cobb sait it best, for someone who writes professionally, he needs to clarify his writing, so in reading the review it is hard to get a sense of the album
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ser?
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LOL
He\'s probably sleeping on the machine.
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cobb sait it best, for someone who writes professionally, he needs to clarify his writing, so the review is hard to get a sense of the album
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LOL
He\'s probably sleeping on the machine.
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I wonder how Mcajam is doing right now. Sitting at a machine bending metal.
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I am completely and totally confused by this review. Maybe, it is the mass amount of jager that I ingested last evening and my brain is not properly working or I am just stupid.
I hear you man...between the heady tasty cakes.....vaporizer......and countless beers.....i am in a unusually dense fog today....
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I am completely and totally confused by this review. Maybe, it is the mass amount of jager that I ingested last evening and my brain is not properly working or I am just stupid.
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"If you want to tick off your parents, try something else."
I did not realize that Relix was geared towards the Teen Beat demographic.
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crummy writer, but i can see where a person would be turned off by the idea that of having one band go in so many directions. sometimes people like to go to a show to hear one sound. granted thats definitly not the case with me or anyone else here, but some people do opperate that way. it seemed that he liked what he heard but didnt quite know what to make of it. which he seemed to have a hard time conveying. you\'d think if you wrote professionally you\'d learn to convey your opinion and feelings through the use of words so that people could understand you. i guess thats not the case at relix.
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In "The Grand Scheme of Things", it fully indulges its progressive rock fetish and produces an instrumental epic that succeeds mightily.
^ What that review is all about..............FUCKIN SER!
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I think he\'s scared to hear all the sounds he likes come from one band at any given time. It\'s called progression and individuality man. i\'d rather not be labeled as a type of music
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in the June 2005 issue of Relix, pg. 107:
"Many of these songs sound like the master\'s thesis of a music student. Some would come off better if the band could resist the urge to throw in another style shift or cram in yet another influence. Plenty of enjoyable bits and pieces float by- a ska groove here, a jazzy guitar solo there- but they threaten to create a sort of non-threatening mush. If you want to tick off your parents, try something else. The Breakfast sounds best when it allows itself to be a rock band; the sharp guitars of "Fairy" and unapologetic bounce of "No Regret" stand out. In "The Grand Scheme of Things", it fully indulges its progressive rock fetish and produces an instrumental epic that succeeds mightily. "Gravity" features an introspective jam that skips the sometimes forced climaxes found elsewhere." Jeremy D. Goodwin
well said but what the hell does this mean?!?:
"Plenty of enjoyable bits and pieces float by- a ska groove here, a jazzy guitar solo there- but they threaten to create a sort of non-threatening mush."