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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: daffodil on May 08, 2005, 08:51:30 pm
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I only read the first couple of pages on this thread, it was going off topic and I wanted to comment on the Webster show.
The second set the first tune sounded better. I could actully hear some melody in the guitar. I made a comment to the sound board guy. Wishfull thinking that it may change for the rest of the show. Well it didn\'t.
The place looks like it\'s set up good for great sounding accoustics, maybe it was an unexperience sound person or someone who didn\'t know the music to well.
Toad\'s: Too loud, your deaf at the end of the show and if your in the front row at the stage you can\'t hear vocals. But I have to agree Toads is way better in terms of accoustics. Even know it\'s a matter of where you stand in that place.
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What Igz fails to mention is that he and his cousins were RESPONSIBLE for the fight. ;)
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Im sure ive asked ya before, but where are you in this state? I think its Cranston, but my memory aint what it used to be.
Ya, in Cranston. 90.3 (URI) and 88.3 (Roger Williams) are all I listen to. Good spots to plug the Breakfast. They\'re independent college radio so they play what ever we want. That\'s where to go to promote the next show = Guaranteed to be a killer. as long as it doesn\'t snow....
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what was i thinkin?
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leave al zurflue alone!!!
Don\'t forget the H at the end of Zurflueh Mr. Ferarra.
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leave al zurflue alone!!!
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The last time I went to club Ultra ended up in a SER street brawl where me and a few of my cousins tore apart a bunch of preppy college kids. We had traffic stopped and everything, it was greatness.
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And yea, Fungus had one of the opening slots last year, the big guy who works there had his band play before the breakfast (I was told they were awful, I wasn\'t there until later, had a hockey game, now that I think of it it had to be before last January, cos thats when I stopped playing). Fungus played before those guys, don\'t know if the guys got to check them out or if anyone from here did since they were on pretty early, but I used to hang out at Jordan\'s apartment a bunch and he I know was PSYCHED to be playing on the same bill, the other guys were pretty pumped too. . .
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Honestly, I don\'t listen to much radio up here, can\'t figure out any stations, heh. 90.3, I\'ll give it a whirl. 3-4 colleges? Ya count Roger Williams, ya got 6, 5 in Providence itself, not including URI Prov and CCRI. I had planned to flyer the hell out of Thayer St in March but wound up in the hospital instead, be a good street to start with,plenty of Brownies and RISDs, among others. Im sure ive asked ya before, but where are you in this state? I think its Cranston, but my memory aint what it used to be.
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EXPOSURE, that\'s what it\'s all about. i don\'t remeber if they opened last year, it\'s been soooo long. I hear what your say\'n tho kinda the same show, but they do have a good time. I went to FA\'s CD release at the Call and the place was PACKED. It would be good to promote the Hell outta the 3-4 colleges in the area for the next area visit. Hey, Ant you listen to 90.3 on Sunday nights.
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no,ive been to living room a million times.
the best thing about it is the "freedom"we have there.
they dont have guinness,only murphys.thats not good..
honestly,the call has showed us what a venue in providence should be like..
Guiness in a bottle. I refuse to drink anything on tap there. The Call is prolly one of my favorite venues in Prov. there are a couple other hidden jems that don\'t get many visits to. The Green Room/ Snookers, good place, Club Ultra, there are a couple others too. Theres a real good funk fusion band up hear that would make for a ser double bill (Fungus Amungus).
The Green Room is pretty sweet, I like the set up. Didn\'t know Ultra put on shows, thought it was just a techno/dance club type. I\'ve heard good things about the new GiZa place other than the location. Fungus opened for PB at the Living Room, I think it was last year, I threw a keg of Guinness at Jordan (sax player) apartment afterwards. They\'re big fans of PB. I used to go to alot of their shows last year, but haven\'t been in a while, it just feels like the same show every time. I will say one good thing about them, they do manage to get a pretty big crowd and the crowd is usually into it, but it helps that they play Providence all the time and they\'re from here.
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If we play the Webster again we will get come control of the openners. They picked them this time, and the fact is they brought in ZERO people between them.
Sully\'s I don\'t think is big enough, though maybe in a particular incident.
I\'m going to investigate the Cheney Hall thing a bit. Its a totally cool room in Manchester. We have to pay for everything......but i think it might fly.
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no,ive been to living room a million times.
the best thing about it is the "freedom"we have there.
they dont have guinness,only murphys.thats not good..
honestly,the call has showed us what a venue in providence should be like..
Guiness in a bottle. I refuse to drink anything on tap there. The Call is prolly one of my favorite venues in Prov. there are a couple other hidden jems that don\'t get many visits to. The Green Room/ Snookers, good place, Club Ultra, there are a couple others too. Theres a real good funk fusion band up hear that would make for a ser double bill (Fungus Amungus).
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thanks steffmo for posting your thoughts! i would much prefer to see the band at toads, porters, or sullys. although i\'m thinking maybe sullys is too small these days. that place freddie mentioned is intriguing. and i don\'t know where cheney hall is. but anything has to be better than the webster!
that said, i certainly don\'t begrudge the band making money...they should do so whenever they can so they can keep playing and getting their music out there! it\'s just that, for me (and obviously i\'m not alone on this), it\'s hard for me to justify spending what little money i have on a show where i can\'t hear the band.
hopefully a solution can be reached on this issue. thanks to steffmo for taking an interest in what the fans think!
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What is the ticket at Webster now....10?
It was $14 at the door. Cheney Hall is a great idea!
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Vic, if they make good money there, how about trimming down the number of opening acts and let the band play play play play...
that\'s the webster.. the band doesn\'t really have a say in it.
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currently I would pay $15 for an evening with the Breakfast, just the Breakfast.
preshow music > breakfast > setbreak music > breakfast > post show music
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Vic, if they make good money there, how about trimming down the number of opening acts and let the band play play play play...
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Thanks for your feedback on this. alex DeFelice and I were discussing it even before I saw this thread.
I guess the problem is in part that the band makes good money at the Webster...about 2k, even on a soft night. Noy being cynical, that money pays bills incurred when they go into new areas or soft markets. It helps pay stuff like the tour press support which we hope will ultimately help grow these new areas.
That being said, I tend to agree with you and the band probably has thought about it.
Unfortuately I\'m not quite sure what we could replace it with that makes sense.
I might suggest that Alex find out what it might cost to rent Cheney Hall and do our own show there. Any thoughts about that?
What is the ticket at Webster now....10?
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Giavanna...GREAT meeting you on Saturday.....
hope to see you at a show again soon....Timmy Tour maybe?
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The best sound was actually during my trip to the restroom.
:hscratch: *plop* :?:
;)
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The sound was BAD! If you got too close you couldn\'t hear the vocals and too far there was no definition... The best sound was actually during my trip to the restroom.
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dude it never does/did....
also,i noticed,that it comes out the same way it came in,just out of a different door...
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no,ive been to living room a million times.
the best thing about it is the "freedom"we have there.
they dont have guinness,only murphys.thats not good..
honestly,the call has showed us what a venue in providence should be like..
Stale Murphy\'s to boot, well last time I was there it didn\'t taste right. . .
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is there a new 900 seater in springfield that maxcreek plays?
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from what ive gathered,saturday was probably gonna be the last time anyway.
unless there was 7 hundred plus people,which didnt happen..
really? tell me more.
i cant reveal too much info,but ive heard theres a new venue that just opened up in springfield...
Freddie....are you ser??? if so, what place are you talking about?
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from what ive gathered,saturday was probably gonna be the last time anyway.
unless there was 7 hundred plus people,which didnt happen..
really? tell me more.
i cant reveal too much info,but ive heard theres a new venue that just opened up in springfield...
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no,ive been to living room a million times.
the best thing about it is the "freedom"we have there.
they dont have guinness,only murphys.thats not good..
honestly,the call has showed us what a venue in providence should be like..
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from what ive gathered,saturday was probably gonna be the last time anyway.
unless there was 7 hundred plus people,which didnt happen..
really? tell me more.
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the rumor of a new sound system and lights is about as old as the skids in mark peters tightie whities....
Noway Bro, i was ther 2-3 weeks ago. Don\'t get me wrong it\'s not the best venue around but it holds a bunch has 2 bars and security wasn\'t that bad easy off and on the highway and theres even a Dunkies out front for the coffee crack heads
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the rumor of a new sound system and lights is about as old as the skids in mark peters tightie whities....
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I haven\'t been to the Living Room since the last time the breakfast played there, can\'t remember how long ago that was. I have heard they upgraded, but still think its a dump, even without the bathroom door issue. The only thing I felt that was good was pretty much anything and everything goes. Don\'t know if that has changed since the smoking ban though. And to my knowledge the only non-**** band that plays there these days is Creek? (I am probably totally wrong but I only read the pheonix once in a while). I am sure it has gotten better with the new sound and lights, but in my mind it will always be the "dying room".
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Not anymore my friend. the back bar is open and the hallway is the way out to smoke. The place is shaping up. i can\'t wait till the next Breakfast event there. i just hope it not in another year
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from what ive gathered,saturday was probably gonna be the last time anyway.
unless there was 7 hundred plus people,which didnt happen..
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Herion Hall is the best place in the Living Room.
who needs a door on the bathroom anyways?
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funny, I remember messages like this for the living room, seemed to work out. . .
When was the last time you were at the Living Room. It\'s not too bad a venue anymore. other than the fact that they leave the men\'s bathroom door off and everyone playing pool can see you ****. but the door is always on the ladies room (Sexist Pigs). but other than that it\'s not that bad a venue. they hooked up a new light system and the sound isn\'t half bad either. It has it\'s ups and downs but for the most part no one really bothers unless your blatant.
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Not that it would help the sound, but it would certainly help the turnout if the Webster would book two bands with actual fanbases (a la Breakfast/AGP) instead for five openers.
If it was still the days when I could see The Breakfast at least once a week with a little drive time, I would skip Webster shows in a second. But as is, soggy Breakfast is better than no Breakfast.
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It doesn\'t matter how many sets they play, when the sound is as bad as it was Saturday, it is all for naught. The best sounding part of the show, from an acoustic standpoint was Adrian\'s drum solo. When the band was playing together, it was one muddy mess. I have no desire to ever return to that place.
^^^
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if the breakfast are going to continue to play the webster i think they should start playing 3 or even 4 set shows. stop with the 4 opening bands. one opener early and the band needs to start playing at like 9:30-10 at the latest. little suprises like this are what make people flock to be there. i know i would mucho appreciate extra servings of breakfast whenever i could get em...i think it would make the struggle to do anything in that place a lot more bearable. i would love to see them bring back the acoustic set....
It doesn\'t matter how many sets they play, when the sound is as bad as it was Saturday, it is all for naught. The best sounding part of the show, from an acoustic standpoint was Adrian\'s drum solo. When the band was playing together, it was one muddy mess. I have no desire to ever return to that place.
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I dont usally post about this but I stopped going to the Webster back in 97... I have had all the same bad experiences you talk about here many times.. More Toads ,less webster......... Bean
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if the breakfast are going to continue to play the webster i think they should start playing 3 or even 4 set shows. stop with the 4 opening bands. one opener early and the band needs to start playing at like 9:30-10 at the latest. little suprises like this are what make people flock to be there. i know i would mucho appreciate extra servings of breakfast whenever i could get em...i think it would make the struggle to do anything in that place a lot more bearable. i would love to see them bring back the acoustic set....
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sound does suck, sad too, because the place has/had potential if properly equipped.
I have never found the Webster on my first try, last night I was stuck in a car for 20 extra minutes on the wrong side of town, and the drove back across town when we learned it was back on the other side of town. when it comes to directions, I am an atlas, but for some reason I never find the Webster. Maybe that vibe is saying something, hello?
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I can deal with everything at the Webster except for the sound. It sounds like mud there.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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The sound is the biggest problem at the Webster. confirmed. we are there to HEAR THE BAND. Therefore, not being able to hear each instrument (come on, there are only four!) is ludicrous.
I can deal with everything at the Webster except for the sound. It sounds like mud there.
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Forgot that the bar area was in back of me for most of the night. That is the BIGGEST problem with the Webster, imo. I wanna be on the floor with a beer in my hand, is this too much to ask for people? honestly, beer in hand=good times!
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well, unfortunately money is tight and i have to choose my outings carefully. i\'m just at the point where going there doesn\'t seem worth it. if you wanna call that selfish, so be it. i see it as doing my part to make a point to the band that they shouldn\'t continue to play at a venue that is so unenjoyable, when there are better choices in the area.
as far as the security is concerned, i\'ve never personally had an issue. when i go there i know better than to do *anything* questionable and behave accordingly. however it does often result in creating an overall negative vibe.
but my biggest issue is the sound. it always sounds like **** in there. the music is lost. and the reason i go to breakfast shows is because i love hearing them play. so if i can\'t really hear them play, and have to strain to try and hear it...it begs the question, what\'s the point in going?
my intent here is not to be whiny...i just wonder why the breakfast insists upon continuing to play that place. and i want to make my voice heard.
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I dunno, to me it just seems sort of selfish to start boycotting Breakfast shows cuz you have a few issues w/ the venue. if the security sucks, you just have to roll w/ it. hell, 90% of Boston venues have just as bad if not worse Security than the Webster. I those cases, you just have to take it easy and leave them no reason to give you any flack. The drinking situation sucks, but nothings gonna change that. I had most my drinks before the Breakfast started, and raged it up front while they were on stage. I may have slipped back to the bar twice after they started to grab a drink and chill for a few minutes before returning to the floor. Must everyone have a drink in their hand the entire duration of the show in order to have a good time? Sacrifice people, there\'s nothing wrong w/ it. As far as waiting in line to smoke a butt, that never occurred to me, and I went out there plenty of times throughout the course of the night. Maybe I just had good timing.
Those seem to be good reasons for the \'small turnout,\' but I\'m pretty sure there were more people there last night than at the last Porter\'s, Worcester, UAC, Providence, and Boston shows, so what was the issue those nights?
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funny, I remember messages like this for the living room, seemed to work out. . .
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ok, so...small turnout. here\'s why, imo: everyone knows the webster sucks. far and wide, this is notoriously known. it\'s no wonder folks don\'t want to show up. the staff is nazi (even though they weren\'t too bad last night). the way it\'s set up...if ya wanna drink, can\'t get close to the stage to watch the band shred and throw back the energy. if it\'s crowded, gotta wait on line to go outside for a cig. and, most importantly, the sound in there is HORRIBLE. if ya get up close, you can\'t hear all the band members. if ya stand farther back, the whole thing just sounds like a muddled, echoey mess. now, i could tell that the band was tearing it up (kudos for that, especially even though they were tired), but i had to listen really closely and use a lot of imagination. so no matter how good the band is playing, it\'s lost on the masses. ya can\'t really tell. and it\'s certainly hard to enjoy.
if the breakfast didn\'t keep playing the webster, i would have boycotted the place a long time ago. i\'m almost to the point where i think i\'m not gonna go there anymore, even if the breakfast is playing. which is saying a lot...missing a ct breakfast show. but the webster is the worst venue ever.
if you\'re gonna do a ct show, there are other, better choices...toad\'s, porter\'s, sully\'s, etc.
so, the breakfast, please don\'t play the webster anymore. i beg you.