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General Discussions => Tribal Funk Affliction => Topic started by: tyzack on January 19, 2005, 03:51:36 pm
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for what it\'s worth...trey anastasio, benevento/russo duo w/ mike gordon, tea leaf green have just been added to the line up..
http://www.jambase.com/headsup.asp?storyID=6113 (http://www.jambase.com/headsup.asp?storyID=6113)
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Originally posted by leith
Reading this i had to laugh, Marcial u KNOW you\'re going . WSP 2 nights headlining, showing everyone that the time off has refreshed and reinvigorated them and they are ready to keep blowin\' minds for years to come? Come on now.
Like I said... you never know... ;)
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Leith and Duane, the only reason I didn\'t give you guys **** was because I destroyed my router and just got a new one hooked up this morning..... You think missin another HLH\'s going to quiet me? Oly makes me that much more riled up!
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Originally posted by Stephengencs
^Newbtastic
Indeed.
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Originally posted by Marcial
For the same reasons that joc mentioned, I doubt I will go either... of course, this is the first year that I have lived 1.5 hours from Manchester, TN with Panic headlining two nights in a row... so I guess you never know...
Reading this i had to laugh, Marcial u KNOW you\'re going . WSP 2 nights headlining, showing everyone that the time off has refreshed and reinvigorated them and they are ready to keep blowin\' minds for years to come? Come on now.
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marcial,i hear your point..the money wouldnt stop me from going to see the band that i love...thats what it should be all about..
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Originally posted by Wolfman
Bonnaroo is SUPER corporate and money-driven, way more than any other festival. They flew under the radar the first year because Superfly just pulled it out of thin air. But year 2 was completely ClearChanneled out and now they make every dollar they can.
Why is it that so many people on this board have such a problem with people making money off of music? If you don\'t think it\'s worth what they are asking, don\'t attend! Trust me, there are PLENTY of other people who will attend in your place. Most people are not going to go through the headaches, coordination, and problems encountered putting on a production of this size for their health! I hope they make many millions.
Also, in your mention of the "headliners", you left off the real headliners from all the years you mentioned... WSP... played 2 nights the first year, 1 night the second year, and this year are playing 2 nights again. I don\'t know about you, but I call the band who plays the big stage twice during the festival when everyone else plays once) the headliner. Just wanted to point that out...
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Originally posted by boombox
Looks like they got a room! ;)
nah....spent from 2:00 am untill 9:00 am spraying water outside at a big fire.....my worst night in eighteen years on the fire department......**** cold like you cain\'t imagine....back tonight to do it again :banghead:
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Almoe.st missed work because of that little chat. Would not have been good if the crew chief(me) did not show up. Time 4 bed!
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Looks like they got a room! ;)
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Car fires in the snow ? how demoe.ralizing. Joc ahh she\'s still too pissed abt missin\' HLH AGAIN to muck w/ us.
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we keep this up and joc is gonna kick our moe.fo asses
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just a bit moe. time in front of my home computer....and no moe. car fires in this fuckin\' snow storm
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btw Letter Home>32 Things>Meat>Moth from 1/1/05 will rule your ears!
u need a bit moe.re pushin\' to get it?
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can not believe we made it this far. I almoe.st think the kids be slippin\'
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moe.st any time now
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LOL moe.st def. need to meet them. How long you think we got b4 we get slammed?
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i\'ll even introduce you to few moe.ho\'s ;)
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moe.re the merrier right ?
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your moe.st welcome at our campsite
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Originally posted by oldnewbie
see you labor day at the moe.down leith :)
moe.st likely :)
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see you labor day at the moe.down leith :)
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Originally posted by stabmasterarson
yo if that festival was in early fall id be there
In a heartbeat
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yo if that festival was in early fall id be there
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Originally posted by Wolfman
Bonnaroo is SUPER corporate and money-driven, way more than any other festival. They flew under the radar the first year because Superfly just pulled it out of thin air. But year 2 was completely ClearChanneled out and now they make every dollar they can. Look at the facts:
-First year: open taping like any good jam festival. Second year on, major taping hassles and they\'re selling everyone\'s performance for more money.
-First year big mainstage acts: Cheese, Trey, J5. Fourth year: Dave Matthews, O.A.R., Jack Johnson. They know who shows up with the fuckin money. Bonnaroo \'05 is closer to the neo-Woodstocks than it is to Bonnaroo \'02. I bet Cheese chooses not to play anymore, they\'re the headiest band of all time.
-I don\'t know what the winning bid was to get the beer vendor contract last year, but I know that we (Boston Beer Co.) bid a LOT of money and didn\'t win it. Mind you that this bid is for the right to serve your beer just for brand recognition. Clear Channel still gets every penny of every $5 beer sold all weekend.
Gotta give some credit at this point to groups like Gamelan, Terrapin, and High Sierra for keeping their festivals more or less greed-free. Sure they\'re out to make money but it\'s obvious that the music is very important to them, and I don\'t mind spending at their festivals. I\'m sure they\'ve been approached. Superfly either sold out in a hurry or got legally strong-armed by ClearChannel.
Just so everyone understands Bonnaroo is NOT owned nor run by Clear Channel Communications it is still owned and run by Superfly and AC Entertainment. I have no idea how Wolfman can blatently(sp?) post false information as fact.
That being said I\'m STILL never going to attend a Bonnaroo even if The Breakfast Headline the damn thing unless it is moved to a better time of year.
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Originally posted by freddiewaht
either way,i want breakfast on the **** bill!!thats all itl ltake right there..
Well that goes without saying. Maybe we\'ll finally pull it off this year.
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either way,i want breakfast on the **** bill!!thats all itl ltake right there..
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Bonnaroo is SUPER corporate and money-driven, way more than any other festival. They flew under the radar the first year because Superfly just pulled it out of thin air. But year 2 was completely ClearChanneled out and now they make every dollar they can. Look at the facts:
-First year: open taping like any good jam festival. Second year on, major taping hassles and they\'re selling everyone\'s performance for more money.
-First year big mainstage acts: Cheese, Trey, J5. Fourth year: Dave Matthews, O.A.R., Jack Johnson. They know who shows up with the fuckin money. Bonnaroo \'05 is closer to the neo-Woodstocks than it is to Bonnaroo \'02. I bet Cheese chooses not to play anymore, they\'re the headiest band of all time.
-I don\'t know what the winning bid was to get the beer vendor contract last year, but I know that we (Boston Beer Co.) bid a LOT of money and didn\'t win it. Mind you that this bid is for the right to serve your beer just for brand recognition. Clear Channel still gets every penny of every $5 beer sold all weekend.
Gotta give some credit at this point to groups like Gamelan, Terrapin, and High Sierra for keeping their festivals more or less greed-free. Sure they\'re out to make money but it\'s obvious that the music is very important to them, and I don\'t mind spending at their festivals. I\'m sure they\'ve been approached. Superfly either sold out in a hurry or got legally strong-armed by ClearChannel.
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Plenty of other festies out there for less money, closer to home, less hasles......the list goes on.
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Originally posted by Stephengencs
:point:^Newbtastic
Ii knew you were going to say something along those lines...
Robyn, I definitely see your point. My issue is that I won\'t take time off of work, find babysitters for my pets, and spend TONS of money unless I really really like a line up. I won\'t go if I think it\'s "not bad" or "ok." I have to be really excited about the bands to want to go. Especially when something is so far away!
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^Newbtastic
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I\'ll definitely be @ the roo this year! I\'d go to see Bela, the Allman Bros. & Alison Krauss alone, but the rest of the lineup looks fun as well. Yeah, some bands are not the biggest & most talented, but I can go party @ the hotel/RV while they\'re playing! :lol: Besides, I\'ve never been to a bad DMB show, and while Jack Johnson & OAR may be considered "high-school" or "repetetive," I do enjoy listening to their music as well. It\'ll be a great way to start a fun-filled summer! If anyone else is interested in taking the trip, PM me & we\'ll work out details ;)
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They probably told you that taping was allowed to get all the tapers to pay the admission price. I\'m sure there were lots of you that paid to get screwed.
Festival doesn\'t sound that cool. I really don\'t know many of the bands there at all anyhow.
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They always sell recordings Joc but if they were gonna change the rules they could have at least said something before the festival started or just said NO Taping and I wouldnt have gone anyway.
It was just really sad. They handled it horribly and resorted to threats. They could have posted a sign or they could have honored what the Fing ticket said.
Just really pissed me off.
Lugging 60lbs of EQ on my back in 90+ degree heat and almost 100% humidity to only be hassled at the gates for something this Festival is supposed to be cool with according th their website and tickets etc etc just wasnt a way for them to make freinds but sure enough they dont give a rats ass.
This festival is not run by people anymore it is all corporate and when were down there we were told by folks in the know that the the festival rights were sold and that the original folks were not that big a part of the festival anymore.
Oh well. I will say this I burn like a mofo and I just lathered on the 40SPF and had no issues what so ever.
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It would not be unheard of for the TN heat in June, in the sun, to top 100...
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the warm staven sun shines bright this time of year... :cool:
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Originally posted by Mamalakabubadaya
all you need is a bathing suit, a spray bottle and ....
Dave\'s spray-on tan bottle?
Just teasing Peck. I know that your winter tans are pure and direct from the Mid-winter Great Big Fiery Ball in the Sky.
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Originally posted by stabmasterarson
and im sure tix will be 200+, fuckin ripoff
TICKET PRICE: Tickets for BONNAROO 2005 are priced at three levels.
The first tickets will be priced at a special rate of $146.50 each. There is a limited allotment of tickets at this price. When the initial allotment is sold out, ticket prices will increase without notice to $161.50. After the second allotment is sold out, the ticket price will increase without notice to $172.50.
-All tickets are 3-day weekend passes which include camping & parking (except for RVs and other oversized vehicles, which will require an additional pass, see below).
-Prices do not include service and shipping charges.
-Service charges are $14.50 PER TICKET. This includes a $3 fee for Coffee County and $1 for charity.
-You will be offered two shipping options: U.S. Priority Mail for $7.00 per order OR UPS Second-Day Air Signature Required for $11.00. Shipping costs for International Orders vary based on the country to which the order is being shipped. There is a limit of 10 tickets per order.
...also since RVs are very popular:
All RVs will be parked in specifically designated, RV-only areas on the festival grounds
- There will be a special RV pass required for each RV to enter the festival grounds. Passes will be $40. Supplies will be limited.
- RV passes will be available when you purchase your tickets to Bonnaroo.
- Under no circumstances will an RV be permitted to enter the festival grounds without a pass.
- At the time you purchase an RV Parking Pass you will be given the option of purchasing a Companion Vehicle Pass for $10. The Companion Vehicle pass will allow an accompanying vehicle into a designated camping area next to the RV camping areas.
...so you\'re looking at a high-end ticket price of around $225 for RV, or $75 more than big cypress, it and coventry, $125 more than oswego. [i can\'t compare to others since those are the only stub i have].
Another point on weather 90deg and 90%hum is not comfortable, and it is not my favorite weather, but it is bearable. Also, for those of you who have been watching the news every 5 miuntes they mentioned that it was "Frigid" in washington yesterday. It was 35. [explative] texans, 35 is WARM!
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Originally posted by tyzack
Either I have no idea what Tenn weather is like, but worst-case is something like 90deg 90% humidity, right?
unless you were born in a jungle and can handle the heat, i really wouldn\'t recommend a lot of movement during the daytime--the girl i went with who had never been to a festival before collapsed on the second day and had to go to the medical tent for hours. don\'t bother packing a lot of clothes, all you need is a bathing suit, a spray bottle and as much aloe as you can find-doesn\'t matter how much sunscreen you have, you\'re gonna fry.
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Either I have no idea what Tenn weather is like, but worst-case is something like 90deg 90% humidity, right?
In that kind of weather there is nothing better to do than sit around, chill out and listen to tunes.
[and i was def planing on RVing it]
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yeah like the it tickets, or better yet 20 dollar nassau tickets
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20 dollar tickets at the gates, it sucks so people are scared to have fun.
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and im sure tix will be 200+, fuckin ripoff
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definitely don\'t think i\'ll be making it this year unless some other bands come into the line up. i went this past summer for the first time and swore i wouldn\'t go back unless in an RV. even though there are some bands i wouldn\'t mind seeing, i\'m really not that crazy about the headliners. it?s just not worth the 15 hour drive and deadly heat for dave mathews band :vomit2: and modest mouse-wtf?! Not a fan of keller, oar. or jack johnson. wouldn?t mind seeing sts9, karl denson, or UM put on a show like last year. just have to wait and see what happens/..
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i went the first two years and had a blast. id pretty much describe it as the world\'s biggest party with great music and nonstop fun, not a boring second...you do have to bear with the heat however, which from my experience involves not moving very much in the sun. but once its dark and cools down, WOO HOO! pretty hard to not have fun, that is unless youre trying not to.
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I believe both Jurassic 5 and the Roots have played there. Roots played the year I went which was pretty hot. Not sure why they didn\'t try to book a hiphop act this year; the people were diggin it for sure when I was there.
Mike, were they selling recordings of the sets? If so, that\'s probably why they didn\'t want you to tape. Greedy jerks. That fest went commercial fast. Quick, buy your official Bonnaroo everything!
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still havent hit this fest. big and crowded from what ive heard, definitly dissapointed about no dead this year i would\'ve went. none of these bands peak my interest enough to drive 21 hours to go there. i\'ve heard plenty of stories friends getting robbed to people makin 40 grand(dont ask). a bunch of my boys did the same RV thing this year, but they got the big bus, the rig that sleeps 10 they had a great time, id like to see some hip hop there, roots, j5, maybe a little rahzel.
the first year all my boys went, at the end sitting in traffick my boys see a row of new york plated cars driving into a field, as one of them pass they yell "new york tip of the day, farmers lettin us through" cut 10 hours outta that trip
anyway if i have to here anymore custy high school jack johnson bullshit my heads gonna explode
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Went to roo last year and ehhhh.
Wont be going back regardless of the lineup. They treated us like **** last year. Gave us nothing but a hard time everywhere we went. Even though it clearly stated that Taping was allowed. It all came to a boiling point on the final day when they refused to let us in with our rigs. They then threaten to have us escorted off the property even though on the ticket it clearly stated we had a right to be there with our rigs. They simply said we changed the rules.
Not to mention that they did absolutely nothing to even try to remedy the 6-12" of mud that they made you go through to get in and out of centeroo. Added to the fact that there was a HUGE racial divide between concert goers and those who were working the gates. So that didnt help matters much.
Also the TN heat is unreal. the humidity was INSANE. We alo had a hotle room in town and a camping spot as well. We got lucky and tey camped us pretty close to the main stage but I couldn\'t even imagine the folks who were so far away if you left your campsite I couldnt see going back for anything until the music was over.
Not to mention that they weren\'t even letting regular folks bring in low back chairs which again was OK\'d on the website prior to the fest. It was so bad when they refused to let us in with our rigs on the final day there was a huge group of kids pissed about not being able to bring in their chairs they rushed the exit gate and thats how we got our rigs in on Sunday.
if you are gonna go definitely get an RV and go VIP. But I will never give them any $ again.
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Originally posted by tyzack
Some people here have voiced negative opinions about DMB being second, but I don\'t mind the band, I just can\'t stand the high-school girl fans.
"What I love about high school girls, I keep getting older and they stay the same age"
TRUE
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Originally posted by alexanderzurflu
Do any of you know what type of efforts have or will be committed to a Breakfast Bonnaroo spot?
Not a clue. I am guessing it involves money.
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Originally posted by jocelyn
Am I the only one if the world who doesn\'t like Keller?
nope...
:wave:
doesn\'t do anything for me either..
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Originally posted by jocelyn
Am I the only one if the world who doesn\'t like Keller?
No, you\'re not.
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Am I the only one if the world who doesn\'t like Keller?
Dude, get a REAL trumpet!
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Do any of you know what type of efforts have or will be committed to a Breakfast Bonnaroo spot?
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I was about 46% expecting to see TB there, with their jammy win, new album and all their talk about this being their year...
Who knows, maybe they will be a late addition...you know...if they read this board. :)
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in all honestly, I am hoping that Ken Hays over at Terrapin has something very good for GOTV this year.. no dead, moe. or cheese at the roo thus far. They should bring PLQ back to headline two nights.. plus The Breakfast are Terrapin friendly..
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For the same reasons that joc mentioned, I doubt I will go either... of course, this is the first year that I have lived 1.5 hours from Manchester, TN with Panic headlining two nights in a row... so I guess you never know...
Here\'s the way to do it comfortably... a group of 10 of my firends did it like this last year & said it was the way to go. Between 10 peeps, you get an RV that sleeps 5 comfortably AND (this part is key) a hotel room 10min from the venue. They have special parking for non-campers, so it\'s easy to drive in & out of the festival. Everyone takes turns sleeping in the RV or hotel (in AC / out of the TN in June heat & humidity), and you can go to the hotel to shower, drop deuces, etc. This would be the only way I will do it. I\'m too old to deal with 75,000 filthy, stinking hippies living in a cess pool for 4 days (and loving it)... no **** way...
As for the acts... I actually like the line-up.
1) WSP - what else needs to be said?
2) UM - have been getting into them more & more lately. the late-night show they put on last year was top notch (a show that TB should have been playing, but that\'s another story)
3) STS9 - great Bisco / Particle esque electronica techno jam band
4) Keller - Boom said it all... the guy is a **** genius
5) KDTU - great in small quantities
6) Yonder - If you like true bluegrass, they are awesome. If they had a drummer, I would like them alot more.
7) Particle - not horrible
8) Brazillian Girls - never heard of them, but judging by the name, how bad could they be?
Plus, I\'m sure some quality acts will be added between now & then.
Now, WTF is up with TB not playing? I mean, they won a freaking jammy for best new band, but they won\'t give them a chance at THE jamband festival??? If they could get a late-night spot similar to what UM had last year, they would **** blow up. What the hell is that "high powered" management doing for them???
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Interesting line-up - damn sight better than anything the UK could offer up these days. And don\'t mention Reading or Glastonbury - lucky if you get 3 decent acts a year at those. (Sorry I don\'t count McCartney, Oasis or that bunch of over-rated boring gits known as Radiohead as worthwhile Glastonbury headliners!)
My take on the line-up of the first third or so acts follows:
Widespread Panic (2 shows) Panic will either be absolutely fantastic if they come back fired up after their break or they will have lost it - I\'d be hoping for the former.
Dave Matthews Band - not interested. Have tried them cos you should, I\'ve been told, but no.
The Allman Brothers Band - definitely worth seeing
Jack Johnson - love the guy, but when will he do some new stuff?
Alison Krauss & Union Station - something and nothing
Modest Mouse - don\'t know them
Gov\'t Mule - Warren is awesome and I\'d love to see these guys
Bela Fleck Acoustic Trio - interest me enough to check them out
The Mars Volta - over-rated, try to be too clever by far
John Prine - a living legend who actually merits the title
Yonder Mountain String Band - good fun in a festival setting
My Morning Jacket - what I\'ve heard is OK, but don\'t know much
Keller Williams - kdub is one of the greatest solo performers... ever - no futher comment necessary.
STS9 - don\'t know \'em
Earl Scruggs & Friends - yeehaaa!!
Joss Stone - over-rated and over-hyped
... can\'t be bothered to comment further, as I guess this is about where Breakfast would be on the bill.
The exposure would be excellent, but what about the possibilities for sit-ins? How about a Hot Lanta with Timmy sitting in with the Allmans or Ron and Animal sitting in for a storming Mule? There\'s also lots of opportuntities for great acoustic jams with the likes of Prine, Johnson and k-dub.
And tyzack, your choice of first CDS is impeccable. If you liked 30 seconds, try and get a copy of the Bastard Son of Winterland boot - double CD from the last Airplane show.
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I\'ve boycotted Bonnaroo since its inception, and will continue to do so.
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I\'m kinda hoping the DMB and OAR fans will be too alien to the sceene and not go.
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Not much in this line-up to make me want to go. Allman Bros. Light doesn\'t do much for me. Bela Acoustic is one good one, UM is alright, as is Yonder Mountain S.B. Honestly those are the only attractive ones on there. I have been repeatedly disappointed by KDTU. Especially after seeing them on the boat. It was some sort of light pop funk jazz. I don\'t undersrand why he is as popular as he is. I feel like he is just coasting on the fact that he used to play in a really smokin band. His current thing doesn\'t do much for me.
Plus, Bonnaroo is too big... I went the 2nd year.. Despite having a pretty good time, there was WAY too much humanity packed in there. The mud had this gross human filth smell to it. Not to mention the place is so huge I got lost 10 million times, and had to walk like 25 minutes (not exagerrating- we got there late and got a bad spot) to get from my site to the concert fields. And god, it was so dirty...
Now, I don\'t mind dirt. Real, outdoors dirt. Love the stuff. Would sleep naked in it. But the kind of filth there is when you pack all of those PEOPLE into too small a space, with little to no sanitary measures taken... gross!
I think I\'ll pass this year. Between DMB and O.A.R. it sounds like it will be one big frat party.
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[moved from The Grand Scheme of Things, minus the poll]
Though it would still be cool if they were added late to the list. So far the list as it stands now:
Widespread Panic (2 shows)
Dave Matthews Band
The Allman Brothers Band
Jack Johnson
Alison Krauss & Union Station
Modest Mouse
Gov\'t Mule
Bela Fleck Acoustic Trio
The Mars Volta
John Prine
Yonder Mountain String Band
My Morning Jacket
Keller Williams
STS9
Earl Scruggs & Friends
Joss Stone
O.A.R.
Toots and the Maytals
Umphrey\'s McGee
Iron & Wine
Ozomatli
Rilo Kiley
Karl Denson\'s Tiny Universe
Drive-By Truckers
Particle
Joanna Newsom
Xavier Rudd
Ray LaMontagne
The Gourds
Secret Machines
Donna The Buffalo
John Butler Trio
Ollabelle
Citizen Cope
Brazilian Girls
M. Ward
Madeleine Peyroux
I suppose that if I liked Widespread Panic, that they are headlining would be cool. I\'ve never actually ever listened to them. Some people here have voiced negative opinions about DMB being second, but I don\'t mind the band, I just can\'t stand the high-school girl fans. The first two CDs (too young for records) I ever bought were Grateful Dead Live from the Filmore East (2/19/69) and Jefferson Airplane 30 Seconds Over Winterland.
That was, um, 8 years ago? I forget. Anyways, I was talking to my friends at school and mentioned that I loved the violin in 30 Seconds Over Winterland and they mentioned that DMB had a violin...so I bought their Red Rocks CD, which is "pretty good" as a rock-jazz-folk combo. Unfortunately, as time has gone on, DMB has catered more to the teeny-bopper scene than to the jazz-folk. Maybe their aperience at Bonnaroo is a turn in a new direction? Well, I can hope.
I am a bit cuirous as to why Modest Mouse is on the bill, since they really don\'t fit with the "Bonnaroo" sceene, but whatever.
All that said, I still plan on going.