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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: WALSH on December 11, 2004, 10:56:42 am
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Originally posted by WALSH
pfffft...there is some real west coast wit there slick, ladies and gentlemen; I give you Leith(a real comedian).
YOU SUCK AT LIFE MAN!!!
Is that all u got caps? u make me lol
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pfffft...there is some real west coast wit there slick, ladies and gentlemen; I give you Leith(a real comedian).
YOU SUCK AT LIFE MAN!!!
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abt as long as your mom has been smokin poles for rent
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tansley,your right.....no more about your goofyass picture,its leiths turn....hey leith,how long have yo ubeen smoking crack and taking it in the ass??
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How did our mug become the butt of jokes on a leith bashing thread?
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anytime brother..i mean that too.any freakin time!!
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Yes Stevie, that gem of photographic history is from right outside the Shortbeach Saloon, the night of Wah\'s J&J. And you\'re right about everyone being sweaty... I remember being nasty from hangin outside in the heat all day & Wah not letting me run home to catch a shower because we had to get to the Saloon 3 hours before the band started... Thanks, guy!
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Originally posted by oldnewbie
see wah i mean^ homeowner!!!!
hey! watch it! ;)
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see wah i mean^ homeowner!!!!
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Originally posted by Marcial
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:lol:rotfl:lol:
Originally posted by oldnewbie
anyone who owns a home knows that the tools are in the tool corral....not just in some silly aisle ;)
or if you go to Lowes, they have their own World!! :D
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WHERE THE **** DID THAT HORRIBLE SHOT COME FROM? My best guess would be the Short Beach show the night of the Jack and Jill. And if you could find a nonsweaty motherfucker on that day, I would be shocked.......
For all those unawares, joining me in that pic is SlimPickins (Center) and Jefft (left)....Ahhhhhh Good Times..........Good Times....
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Originally posted by DocEllis70
Kote could probably be reworked into a decent song, despite the lyrical goofiness
Drop the intro to Kote.
All of the shelved songs could be reworked. Look at Fairy, that has really come about over time.
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anyone who owns a home knows that the tools are in the tool corral....not just in some silly aisle ;)
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Originally posted by Marcial
LOL!
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Gypsy Girl is easily, by far and away, the absolute worst breakfast song ever performed. Perhaps the worst song ever performed period. Keep it on the shelf!
the last time i saw so many toold in one spot,i was walking through home depot,right down the tool isle....
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Originally posted by freddiewaht
and another 3 days no posting ability to jcobb and wolfy for it being hanakkah and all..
Aw cmon man, the Sally\'s Jew tax is costly enough. I\'m juuuusssst a lonely Jeeeewwwwwww on Christmas! :stan:
Actually, I really don\'t like Judaism, I\'m just stuck with it in my lineage but I\'ll never practice. Hmmm... that gives me an idea...how about: The ONE and ONLY pbfans.com Religion Pissing Contest Thread! :no:
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Wolf ..you would have loved the \'Legend of a Mind\'>\'Legend of Zelda\'>Legend of a Mind\' the other night...whew!
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Bring back instrumental Za. If Bugs could make a comeback, anything\'s possible. And a Love Lake bustout, just one.
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Kote could probably be reworked into a decent song, despite the lyrical goofiness, but Gypsy Girl is a non Breakfastesque tune that should deffinatley be shelved and forgotten..
Best set list influence was when puffin in the pouring rain outside Sullys, back in 2002 was it?, Chris Pitch, head full of weed, had the brightest idea come upon him...Tribal>Garcian>Tribal>Garcian>Tribal. What a show too..one of my faveorites
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I don\'t know Al.... that\'s a damn tough call... a toss up.... I would have to give the slight nod to QM though...
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Originally posted by Marcial
Gypsy Girl is easily, by far and away, the absolute worst breakfast song ever performed. Perhaps the worst song ever performed period. Keep it on the shelf!
Marcial, more painful for you than Question Mark and the Mind?
I love my Gypsy Girl so much that Freddie is probably going to tell she and I to "Get a Room!!"
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Originally posted by WALSH
Hey Sweats...
LOL!
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Originally posted by alexanderzurflu
Someone please go backstage at the Nine on
Thursday and request Love Lake and Gypsy Girl before I arrive on the scene. Would be a fun, mellow opener!
Gypsy Girl is easily, by far and away, the absolute worst breakfast song ever performed. Perhaps the worst song ever performed period. Keep it on the shelf!
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Originally posted by Stephengencs
Walsh Mahoney, Get backstage before a show and watch the boys write out the setlist.....They write it out 15 minutes or so before they go on. It is usually a collaborative effort, not excluding subliminal hints by fans backstage (ie. 5/1/04 Doughboy opener from Wah and Food For Thought in Naragansett, RI which was my first setlist influence)
Someone please go backstage at the Nine on
Thursday and request Love Lake and Gypsy Girl before I arrive on the scene. Would be a fun, mellow opener!
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Hey Sweats...I have seen them write it but I usually back off during that time, so they can think. Plus I don\'t like knowing what is coming.
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Originally posted by Stephengencs
and Food For Thought in Naragansett, RI which was my first setlist influence)
Good job on that one too. I think pretty much everyone had a hand in the Tribal at the Fairfield show the other week as well.
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Or go to a Living Room doozie (7/16) and mention that a lot of the regulars who didn\'t show up for the show have been wishing for a "Garcian Fishbowl" comeback... spite rules.
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Walsh Mahoney, Get backstage before a show and watch the boys write out the setlist.....They write it out 15 minutes or so before they go on. It is usually a collaborative effort, not excluding subliminal hints by fans backstage (ie. 5/1/04 Doughboy opener from Wah and Food For Thought in Naragansett, RI which was my first setlist influence)
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and please change the title of the thread to "The Grand Song Selection Rumble" or "Leith vs The World: Round 78" :)
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and another 3 days no posting ability to jcobb and wolfy for it being hanakkah and all..
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Doughboy is my new theme song. I remember seeing its debut in Vermont. I felt like it was a gift from the boys to me.. AHHHH Prob and Stats final in 20 min... think I\'ll whip out the headphones and listen to Doughboy again.
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im loving watching hell breaking loose and i have absolutely dick to do with it...hey dpeck,whos getting punished for this one??i say a 5 days of no forum for leith,and 4 days,respectively,for dirty mendez and walsh mahoney..
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Originally posted by WALSH
Again I was never complaining about what they play I was jsut stating fact, that there have been many performances of the newer songs lately and was wondering what other peole takes on this was. Every Doughboy I have heard I have loved but it doesn\'t change the FACT that they have played it alot lately.
The Breakfast musn\'t have played on the 13th Marcial, Leith says so and he knows all their is to know about "improv rock", so you must be wrong"newbie", it is on his discs man...get off his lot scene, brah...;)
Well when one has to depend on a website and what is written on discs sent to him due to being soooo far away from the band. A mistake happens. It is just funny because I\'m sure it looks like I went and looked it up and all when in actuality I was just listening to that show last nite soooI had it nxt to me when I read your post. It just occured to me to correct you on the date as 8/14 was glaring up @ me and to verify i went to the website. ooops
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Again I was never complaining about what they play I was jsut stating fact, that there have been many performances of the newer songs lately and was wondering what other peole takes on this was. Every Doughboy I have heard I have loved but it doesn\'t change the FACT that they have played it alot lately.
The Breakfast musn\'t have played on the 13th Marcial, Leith says so and he knows all their is to know about "improv rock", so you must be wrong"newbie", it is on his discs man...get off his lot scene, brah...;)
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Originally posted by Jim Cobb
hmmm that came across a lot harsher than i had intended it to. basically what i\'m getting at is that, there is a silly argument going on, and it seems to be going no where productive.
Ooop sorry jim ignore part of my last post.
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Originally posted by Jim Cobb
there is a leith on every message board. the one dude who is NEVER wrong, and will argue the same dumb ass moot point on and on and on, BECAUSE HE IS NOT WRONG. yet he will claim "ohhhh nooo i can admit when i\'m wrong". i think self righteousness is the phrase i\'m groping for.
No I do not think so As a matter of fact I have now relabelled my discs and my setlist folder to reflect the change Marcial has let me know abt. So as far as your quote blow me! I do believe any time i have been proven wrong not many mind you I have given kudos where due. Find somewhere where this is not true. I dare ya.
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hmmm that came across a lot harsher than i had intended it to. basically what i\'m getting at is that, there is a silly argument going on, and it seems to be going no where productive.
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there is a leith on every message board. the one dude who is NEVER wrong, and will argue the same dumb ass moot point on and on and on, BECAUSE HE IS NOT WRONG. yet he will claim "ohhhh nooo i can admit when i\'m wrong". i think self righteousness is the phrase i\'m groping for.
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Originally posted by WALSH
You mean you aren\'t a slave driving redneck??
Redneck? Well, compared to you yankees, that is certainly a possibility.
Spreadneck? Definitely
Slave Driver? No. So far as I know that has been illegal for quite sometime now (at least in most Alabama counties...lol). Plus, I\'m cuban, so I would most likely be on the short end of that stick here in good ol\' Alabama.
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Originally posted by Marcial
Leith, TB did most certainly play on 8/13/04... I know because it was Friday the 13th, I flew that day & I was there! Could it be you are once again misinformed??? What a shocker!!!!!
Well the Breakfast website is wrong and so is the labeling on the discs I recieved.
Imangine that Misinfo from the OFFICIAL website.
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Originally posted by leith
Well 1st off The Breakfast did not play on 8/13/04 so the disc you r listening to is probably 8/14/04.
Leith, TB did most certainly play on 8/13/04... I know because it was Friday the 13th, I flew that day & I was there! Could it be you are once again misinformed??? What a shocker!!!!!
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Originally posted by Marcial
I wholeheartedly disagree on this point. No way is he mean-spirited... a smartass maybe (see his recent post where he implys that I am a slave driving redneck), but it\'s all in good fun.
Yeah for you maybe but an arguement many moons ago I believe has stuck in his craw and he has not gotten over it nor will he.
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Originally posted by WALSH
I still want to know how asking about the Breakfast song rotation qualified anyone(me or anyone else) as a newbie?? Isn\'t that what these forums are for? It was a question that I thought would spur up some good debate until your comments took it out of the realm of discussion and into personal attacks.
Secondly what the hell does your alleged knowledge of the Grateful Dead have to do with this thread? Don\'t pretend to know anything about me, alright. This isn\'t a pissing contest.
Well 1st off The Breakfast did not play on 8/13/04 so the disc you r listening to is probably 8/14/04.
2nd as I posted before Complaining abt song rotation is a newbie action asking how that rotation is done is a whole\' nother thing and not a newbie action. Understand now? Also I ask you again how is calling someone a newbie a personal attack? You must have a real wierd self definition if this offends you.
Oh and you brought up the whole Knowledge aspect w/ this thread invoking Wolfs knowledge of The Breakfast. Do you actually think b4 you post?
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oops.. I men your whole Kote segue idea...a little late.
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That is what I am talking about Al.
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You mean you aren\'t a slave driving redneck??
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I need to hear the 2nd night also but it did look on paper that they spent themselves during this first night.
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Originally posted by leith
I do know this though Wolf is a mean spirited person he just hides it better than others.
I wholeheartedly disagree on this point. No way is he mean-spirited... a smartass maybe (see his recent post where he implys that I am a slave driving redneck), but it\'s all in good fun.
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I still want to know how asking about the Breakfast song rotation qualified anyone(me or anyone else) as a newbie?? Isn\'t that what these forums are for? It was a question that I thought would spur up some good debate until your comments took it out of the realm of discussion and into personal attacks.
Secondly what the hell does your alleged knowledge of the Grateful Dead have to do with this thread? Don\'t pretend to know anything about me, alright. This isn\'t a pissing contest.
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Originally posted by WALSH
On a seperate note I am finally listening to 8/13/04 @ The 9...WOW! 1st set is nearly perfect in every way. The Acid Queen was intense and Vera St had the perfect placement. Can\'t wait for the 2nd set.
This show has my vote for one of the best ever. Definitely top 2 or 3 for me. I was slightly bummed after the show though because I had the next night to see, but knew there was no way the first night would be topped....
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The "ignore" option is for wimps. The day you stop listening to contrasting opinions is the day you stop learning about your world and yourself.
In the "extras" portion of the Porter\'s dvd the band is shown brainstorming ideas for the setlist before the show. It seemed like Tim had sketched out the majority of the set and was soliciting ideas for interesting segues and any out-of-rotation songs the other guys wanted to play. My guess is they cobble together the setlist at the last moment most of the time. Special occasions are probably better planned (Halloween etc.)
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Originally posted by WALSH
By the way no one ever answered my question about if there is some kind of formula that they use for writing their setlists, as far as rotation, or do they just wing it when they sit down.
Leith, I can\'t imagine you knowing anything about the Breakfast that Wolf doesn\'t know from 5 or 6 years ago. Wolf is most likely one of the least mean spirited people I know and I am sure everyone would back me up on this point.
On a seperate note I am finally listening to 8/13/04 @ The 9...WOW! 1st set is nearly perfect in every way. The Acid Queen was intense and Vera St had the perfect placement. Can\'t wait for the 2nd set.
Dude do you actually read posts? I would love to read where I wrote I knew more abt the Breakfast than Wolf or anyone for that matter. I do know more abt Grateful Dead than you would ever know that is for sure and when it comes to callin people newbies since when is that a personal attack? I\'ll call any one a newbie if they post like one and I believe there may only be 1 or 2 people on this board that can call me a newbie to improv rock. I do know this though Wolf is a mean spirited person he just hides it better than others.
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By the way no one ever answered my question about if there is some kind of formula that they use for writing their setlists, as far as rotation, or do they just wing it when they sit down.
Leith, I can\'t imagine you knowing anything about the Breakfast that Wolf doesn\'t know from 5 or 6 years ago. Wolf is most likely one of the least mean spirited people I know and I am sure everyone would back me up on this point.
On a seperate note I am finally listening to 8/13/04 @ The 9...WOW! 1st set is nearly perfect in every way. The Acid Queen was intense and Vera St had the perfect placement. Can\'t wait for the 2nd set.
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Originally posted by freddiewaht
i couldve been ignoring leith the whole time?why didnt someone recomend this to me????
Wah to me the ignore list is like the editting option to you no good. I find hiding opinions you do not like to be very insulating and conducive to a myopic view of the world.
I find it rather funny that Seth has put me on his ignore list. I\'m actually glad. I enjoy spatting w/ Wah every once in awhile because though he may seem like a neandrethal in typing I find his insights into many things interesting and funny as heck.
With Seth all you get is mean spirited, ususally mistaken epithets thrown @ you. When proven to be the imbecile he is he gets all upset and rather than apologize for being an ass he will just ignore you.
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Originally posted by freddiewaht
i couldve been ignoring leith the whole time?why didnt someone recomend this to me????
I like the spats between you two.
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i couldve been ignoring leith the whole time?why didnt someone recomend this to me????
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People, please. May I make everyone aware of the "ignore list" feature. If you go to user cp, you can put people on your ignore list. This means you don\'t see any of their posts and you also can\'t get PMs from them. I put leith on the ignore list months ago and my enjoyment of this site went way up. He posts nothing worth reading and just tries to infuriate people, so why even bother reading his posts? If you can\'t stand leith or anyone else, put them on your ignore list rather than getting into another insult match.
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Yeah I\'m such a "scenester" are u being a sphincter? Dude sorry if my life pursuit of seeing as much live music as possible makes me a "scenester". All I know is all the money I have spent and all the trades I have made to see all the "heady" shows I have was and is worth it . Putting up w/ least coaster mentality notwithstanding I think I have sparked some meaningful and possibly long lasting friendships w/ those that I actually have met from this board, I doubt if we meet that would happen because I may be too hip for you to handle. That and you really like them Biscuit guys. Chill brah we were all newbies once sheesh!
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Watch out Leith is throwing the Newbie title around...hey slick, didn\'t really see the need for any personal attacks but since you have seen SOOOOOOO many "heady" shows, I guess it was warranted. I see alot of everyone elses points and like I said I do like the new songs but I still don\'t see the need to play Doughboy almost every night.
Leith, you f**king "scenester" it is so nice that you decided to be a Breakfast fan, I can\'t wait until you get to meet alot of the people with whom you have sparked such good realtionships with through this board.
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Aww come on Marcial... It rocks...
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PLEASE stop requesting Gypsy Girl! They might actually play it.... yuk.
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Gypsy girl was another winner... Def needs to come back into rotation!!!!! God, such a beautiful song..
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I really want to hear Gypsy Girl on Thursday at Cafe Nine. I have been listening to Gypsy girl from a few 2001 shows and really miss it. No shows between Sunday and Thurs. should give them enough time to practice. Now who is going to make this happen? Time to wield your influence Freddie.
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Originally posted by DocEllis70
one of thoes songs where if you know who the \'Kote\' is then the song makes more sense
I think he was a ghost...
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it never really fit well in a setlist..maybe it was that vocal intro to it...one of thoes songs where if you know who the \'Kote\' is then the song makes more sense
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kote would really be a bustout..hasnt been one in a long while..
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Kote had some of TB\'s best/most enjoyable chord changes in it. What annoys you about it?
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the Kote is a decent song at best...i liked the novelty of it but it really kinda annoys me
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Originally posted by obsession600
Anybody know how big of a release this will be and where the new album will be available? Mail order, merchandise table, New England record shops?
Anything less than National Distribution is ridiculous imo. If I can walk into a Tower Records and p/u Anchor Drops by UM( which I have not), I better damn well be able to p/u Real Radio when it comes out. I mean the new management will be fairly useless imo if this record is not distributed nationally.
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One of the most common things heard at a merchandise table; "I want the album with the song they played at the end/middle/start of the set." Get the people addicted to the new stuff now so that when it comes out they are eager to buy it instead of hesitant.
Anybody know how big of a release this will be and where the new album will be available? Mail order, merchandise table, New England record shops?
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i\'ve been in a lot of bands, and when a record is about to come out, if your fanbase is already very familiar with a lot of the songs, they are gonna be more stoked to get the record than if they had no idea what to expect. and yeah, those new songs, where they are numerous, they aren\'t long. granted, i\'m a newbie, only 2 shows thus far, but i have been listening to recordings of this band for a while, and i didnt leave either of the shows thinking about the overwhelming amount of new material that was played. i think they do a very good job of balancing the loyalty to oldschool fans with the tactics that are going to expand their audience. thats NOT an easy thing to do.
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I do miss Kote... a lot!!!
I just can\'t wait until TB gets to the point where they won\'t have to rely on slanting the set list in order to gain an audience. Seriously, the day that happens, WATCH THE **** OUT!!!
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on top of that,these songs in question,arent 20minute epics,there 5 minuters...they want to get people totally used to these tunes before rr comes out...and,with that being said,real radio is gonna blow these cats up!
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Originally posted by alexanderzurflu
Sounds like Walsh is longing for a Gypsy Girl>Love Lake>Kote>Late and the Great>Prom 97
Nice! Bring back Kote! Don\'t forget Beer Jubilee!
Originally posted by alexanderzurflu
I obviously didn\'t make the trip to Canada last year.
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Originally posted by alexanderzurflu
The band never disappoints me!
I obviously didn\'t make the trip to Canada last year.
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Originally posted by WALSH
Do the new songs(not really that new anymore) have to make an appearance every night?
Sounds like Walsh is longing for a Gypsy Girl>Love Lake>Kote>Late and the Great>Prom 97
I think that Fairy may have ended up on the Gypsy Girl/Love Lake scrap heap if they didn\'t revamp it into the powerful version that is now going to be showcased on Real Radio. It\'s pretty amazing when you compare Fairy now to the Fairy of a few years ago. Doughboy and No Regret get me amped every time.
I love old stuff too but have been more excited than ever when live at the shows. The band never disappoints me!
I still hope we get a random Gypsy Girl or Love Lake out of the Blue one of these nights (Cafe Nine?).
Good Thread! I\'ve enjoyed reading all your insights and setlist case studies of previous bands.
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Personally I think the band does a pretty good job of mixing up their tunes. Throwing in bustouts and playing tunes they want to play.
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I\'m as much a fan of the early songs as the next diehard and would also appreciate more open-ended jamming, but the boys have got to eat!! The new album will have to be promoted the caca out of and then I\'m sure they will start varying the setlists again - check out past shows around album releases, if you don\'t believe me. With so many original songs now, rotation will be more difficult than it was when Deuce came out.
It does appear that the RR songs are getting a bashing, but as has been suggested, they will be the songs that will be hopefully turning on a huge army of new fans to the band. And after all, if the boys get the break they deserve, they will be expected to play the new stuff in TV shows etc, keeping the jamming to a minimum. Yes, we know they can play anything in their sleep, but the public are fickle - one dodgy performance or show where they don\'t play what is expected, I think we all know what will happen. Yes, they won\'t lose true fans, just the much needed income.
I think we all know that normal service will be resumed - Tim would get bored and can you honestly see Animal being caged?? I thought not. I cannot see any time when they will go down the moe. route of the same sets over a two night run for a couple of years, or worse still be like Maroon 5, who have been playing the same hour long set for 2 years.
Don\'t panic. At least you get the opportunity to see them almost when you like at the moment. When the public at large finally realise what they\'ve been missing, tours will be nation- (and hopefully, world) wide and shows will be less common.
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yeah, compared to all other bands, its no different than any other band in this supposed \'scene\' I\'ve had to deal w/ Phish Summer 2000 when Farmhouse just came out, and moe. Summer \'02 when they laid down the tracks for their Wormwood album onstage nearly nightly, so this is nothing new for me.
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Newbies all. Anyone that is complaining abt song rotation has not been on tour AT ALL. From GD to ABB to Phish and on and on and on EVERY jamband has had detractors due to setlist rotation. Deal w/ it. These bands all have a rabid fanbase that could care less what is played and the majority of these bands play the HELL out of new tunes. The songs have to find a life of their own in concert and it gives the band members ideas for studio tricks. I remember hearing Touch of Grey like every freakin\' show before it came out on album and many other songs in the latter canon where also played ALOT. I\'d rather hear Doughboy and No Regret every nite than not.
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Honestly, those partiular songs you speak of that they seemingly play every show now(No Regret, Inner Glimpse, and Doughboy) impress me more and more every time I see them played. And last night was no different. Although it wasn\'t up to the level that the Fairfield show was, this was a SER evening indeed. And remember, the band is playing for the rest of the crowd moreso than the dozen or so of us that are at most of the local shows. What we diehard Breakfast fans consider \'standard\' everybody else in the crowd is watching in amazement. You need to get back in your element walshie and think about what you\'re saying.
That being said, it would be nice for them to come out with a batch of new tunes. They\'re more or less finished with the album, they might as well put some more music down on paper, just to keep things fresh for them. and really, i can\'t complain about any of the more recent songs, so all the more reason for them to write more.
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Originally posted by davepeck
oh **** that\'s right.. where was fariy? i wanna say right before gladys...
:no: As clutch as the Yankees right there.
Originally posted by WALSH
...they could easily go 3 shows without a single repeat in a setlist....
You\'re right, but I\'m not sure how much of a problem it really is. They\'ve always gone real heavy on the new stuff. I\'m pretty sure that every show I\'ve been to this year they\'ve played at least 2 out of 3 of Doughboy, Inner Glimpse, and No Regret. When the new batch was Dig, Fiery Ball, Score, Food For Thought, and Cosmic, they were playing 4/5 of those every night. They just like to get used to the new stuff and see where it fits in the show. I haven\'t minded the heavy play of the new batch, although I was getting sick of that other batch a couple of years ago. I think this is the best batch they\'ve ever had, and they\'re constantly getting better at jamming the new songs, so I don\'t mind hearing them several times because I like seeing where they go. However, I can understand if someone would rather see a better mix of old and new and rare covers. I can particularly understand this coming from a Biscohead, because The Disco Biscuits are the most innovative setlist band ever.
It\'s very hard to gauge if this really keeps people away though. I think the effect is probably negligible. How many people have left their second or third Breakfast show saying, "Well, that was good, but I heard a lot of the same songs the last time. I\'m not really down with seeing them again." I\'m sure there\'s been a couple but I doubt it\'s really that many.
Another similar aspect I\'ve never been sure about is how many people go to see The Breakfast or any jamband to hear particular songs off a new album. For years the band has used the line, "Come to this show, and see songs off their new album, (Deuce, Bona Fide, or Real Radio.)" Have other jambands used a similar message? Jamband fans often have a song or two they\'d like to hear at any band\'s show, but do they go to shows with a "hear the latest hits" mentality? I know this is never the case for me personally. I recall seeing MMW and The Slip (different shows) shortly after they released new albums. I had the albums was hoping to hear some songs on them. However, hearing these songs was not my motivation to go, and I wouldn\'t have cared one bit if they played nothing but old material. But that\'s just me. I\'m curious what other people think of the "See songs from the new album!" strategy and what people think about heavy play on new material.
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I hear ya Walsh. Since they are relatively short, they are only a minority of the set though and do serve to keep the energy going. Plus they usually do a decent job of alernating them from show to show (maybe not so much lately).
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And Drew they aren\'t really doing anything crazy w/ Dough or No Regret live they are all pretty standard readings of both.
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That is fine to do your album in a way that will attract other fans with shorter more radio friendly songs, but the ones that are going to see your concerts are those music fans that like originality and adventure in music. Ask alot of people what their one complaint about moe. is and why that band has remained stagnant over the last 5-6 years. They play the same songs over and over again...they might have gained new fans along the way but they were also losing fans at the same time. Keeping things fresh is important in this type of music. Realize that they are going to tour in promotion of the album in earnest when the thing comes out in Feb and all these songs are still going to be getting repeated play that is 3 months from now....think about how many times these will be playe dby then? Just a thought though.
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I think its album promotion.....just trying to give every crowd a taste of what\'s going to be on the album.
they also might be trying to reach out to a slightly different crowd by playing the less jammy songs....
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Inner Glimpse has been known to be on Real Radio (and potentially a single) for a while now. Dig, Doughboy, Fairy, No Regret, and Gravity are all on or were once "in consideration" to be on the album. I would imagine that the band was playing them to gauge crowd reactions and to learn what they can do which each tune live. Just my guess...
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Here is my point explained ina different way. Let\'s say last night\'s show was an average # of songs(looks like it), that would put song total at 17(w/ encore). They have 45 original songs(46 if you include the song on RR that hasn\'t been played yet. This means that they could go 2 whole shows and 3/4 of the 3rd show without any repeats and that is just playing originals which ain\'t gonna happen.
Using last nights list again they played 3 covers which I would say is about avg for the band on any given night. This would mean that they could easily go 3 shows without a single repeat in a setlist.
My main point is that they would again(only my opinion) gain a larger fanbase if they mixed up setlists a little more. People aren\'t going to want to travel to see the same 10 or so songs over and over again(here I am talking about others than the diehard CT area fans). What do ya think?
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Good to see the show was good. I feel like ASS!!!
Here is a question to stir up a little debate while I am at work. For a long time the band didn\'t add many new songs at all. Now this new batch of songs come out and are all very good. The only thing I am wondering is why they get playe d almost every night, especially due to the fact that almost all of them(other than Gravity) have little to no improvisation in them and other than energy levels are all pretty standard readings? There seem to be alot of repeats as of late and I was wondering what people\'s take on this was?
Do they have a formula for picking the setlist or do they just wing it when they sit down to write it? Do the new songs(not really that new anymore) have to make an appearance every night?
Chew on that I gotta go to work.