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General Discussions => Spunk => Topic started by: ChrisPitch on June 18, 2003, 04:30:55 pm
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I know, I know, not all of us are lucky enough to live outside of red sox country and live in the land of the Boss.
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I understand that everyone is all high and mighty on the New Haven pizza and with good right to, but I\'d like to inject some great Jersey pizza if I may
Ralph\'s Pizza - Nutley
Nellie\'s Place - Waldwick
Pete & Elda\'s - Neptune
Kinchley\'s - Ramsey
Sawmill - Seaside Heights
You can go to any of these place and get great pie and not have to wait more than 10 minutes to get a table.
yeah but then you\'d have to go to jersey and who wants to do that? ;)
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I understand that everyone is all high and mighty on the New Haven pizza and with good right to, but I\'d like to inject some great Jersey pizza if I may
Ralph\'s Pizza - Nutley
Nellie\'s Place - Waldwick
Pete & Elda\'s - Neptune
Kinchley\'s - Ramsey
Sawmill - Seaside Heights
You can go to any of these place and get great pie and not have to wait more than 10 minutes to get a table.
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i\'ve eaten at "the spot" twice in the last two weeks and it was so on the money it was silly. the only issue seems to be whether there will be clams or not. BAR was really good last night as well.
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al, let me know when ahead of time. i\'ll make a reservation. we\'ll do it big naaa kid.
dave is prouder of the reservation capabilities he now possesses than a elementary school kid is bringing in some new toy on the first day back from winter vacation for show and tell.
naturally, we\'re all still jealous. :biggrin:
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al, let me know when ahead of time. i\'ll make a reservation. we\'ll do it big naaa kid.
I\'ll starve myself in advance of the feast.
I\'m guessing August or September, whichever has a more badass New Haven show planned. I haven\'t been out there in almost a year.
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al, let me know when ahead of time. i\'ll make a reservation. we\'ll do it big naaa kid.
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Hats off to Sally\'s Apizza, which today celebrates its 70th year of producing and serving the best pizza that ever graced one\'s palate.
Yay New Haven Pizza!
I still haven\'t tried Sally\'s. I\'m probably gonna be out there in the next month or two and will have to see what I have missed on all my previous trips to New Haven.
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Speaking of pizza, go to Jimmy\'s in Milford on New Haven Ave. The Speciality Pizza "Danielle" will blow you away. Order it as toxic, if you are brave. And maybe if you are lucky, Danielle will actually be your waitress.
is that the place where holly/gavin got that gross looking grease pie from on sunday??
confirm?
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Speaking of pizza, go to Jimmy\'s in Milford on New Haven Ave. The Speciality Pizza "Danielle" will blow you away. Order it as toxic, if you are brave. And maybe if you are lucky, Danielle will actually be your waitress.
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btw, if i go to sally\'s if those sons of **** try to charge me extra because i\'m not a greasy italian they will never hear the end of it.
rotfl
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:shrug: yea, yea, yea carinis sucks, blablabla.
Carinis is hit or miss the last few years. I still get it periodically and sometimes it\'s just like i remember it as a kid, fantastic. Other times however, :pukedon:
I\'d much rather just drive to new haven and get something decent though than hit anything up here these days though.
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Oddly Paul, today Carini\'s Pizza also celebrates its anniversary. Of making people spit up blood!
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wow, how did they survive 71 years ago and earlier without killing themselves?
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Hats off to Sally\'s Apizza, which today celebrates its 70th year of producing and serving the best pizza that ever graced one\'s palate.
Ironically, 70 years is also the amount of time it usually takes to get served (well, 80 years if you\'re Wolfman), but I\'ve heard about a recent occasion in which reservations were made, the pizza was served prompty, and some New Yorkers from our lovely website (aka: PennyRedstar and fizzlefest) were reportedly blown away, particularly by the plain with garlic.
Yay New Haven pizza!
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BUMP for no particular reason. Hey Pitchie, was BAR in the tourney?
i know why you bumped this!! ;)
btw, if i go to sally\'s if those sons of **** try to charge me extra because i\'m not a greasy italian they will never hear the end of it.
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This is from this thread in June 2003 (first-round action):
#1 Modern def. #16 BAR 5-4
#9 Sally\'s def. #8 Brazzi\'s 9-0
there you have it. sally\'s was a landslide, while the other matchup was extremely close. in fact, BAR actually took 2 out of the 3 subcategories (dough, sauce, cheese), but Modern squeezed out the overall victory.
Modern went on to lose to Sally\'s, which eventually lost a 6-5 decision to Pepe\'s in the final. Both the Modern-BAR and the Sally\'s-Pepe\'s matches were controversial due to oven/heating/burning/cooling issues. It was problems like these that led to the demise of the tournament and the subsequent restoring of lives for all participants.
Now THAT\'S the in-depth analysis I\'m talking about! What a tough draw for BAR. We really should do this again with an updated field, as well as a pie with one veggie topping and a pie with one meat topping from each competitor.
wow thats a huge bump.
Yeah, consider this the third installment of my semi-regular THREAD FROM THE DEAD series!
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Also, for the record, my top 10 Apizza list goes:
1. Sally\'s
:rimshot: ditto. Also, great avitar pitchy.
Go back to england, you king and you knnnnnn-ig-t-s!
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Also, for the record, my top 10 Apizza list goes:
1. Sally\'s
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The seeds and the bracket were randomly chosen by lottery at setbreak of the 2003 family jam.
I could not attend due to covering the North Haven baseball team\'s state championship game that was rained out from two nights before.
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somehow i think BAR got blackballed, getting a 16 seed and all. . .
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This is from this thread in June 2003 (first-round action):
#1 Modern def. #16 BAR 5-4
#9 Sally\'s def. #8 Brazzi\'s 9-0
there you have it. sally\'s was a landslide, while the other matchup was extremely close. in fact, BAR actually took 2 out of the 3 subcategories (dough, sauce, cheese), but Modern squeezed out the overall victory.
Modern went on to lose to Sally\'s, which eventually lost a 6-5 decision to Pepe\'s in the final. Both the Modern-BAR and the Sally\'s-Pepe\'s matches were controversial due to oven/heating/burning/cooling issues. It was problems like these that led to the demise of the tournament and the subsequent restoring of lives for all participants.
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wow thats a huge bump.
so whos gonna show me around New Haven\'s pizza circuit when i get my jewelry taken off in january??
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BUMP for no particular reason. Hey Pitchie, was BAR in the tourney?
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Ah of course, the topping tournament. Good idea. The on-premise tourney would not have to involve eating at both places in one night. The 1-10 scoring allows you to record scores over time.
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Frank Pepe Pizzeria Napoletana did in fact beat Sally\'s Pizza 6-5 Sunday night to win the 2003-04 SuperHaven Apizza Tournament. That means over a four-match span Pepe\'s earned the majority of votes against its opponents, one of which is the best pizza places in Staven, and another that is considered by many to be the best in the world. Not an easy feat. So congratulations to Pepe\'s!
Those who voted for Pepe\'s: Tim, Lisa, Justin, Jay, Mike, Adrian D
Those who voted for Sally\'s: Me, Ron, Seth, Adrian T, Dave
The sauce: Sally\'s 8-3
The cheese: Pepe\'s 6-5
The dough: Pepe\'s 6-5
For the record, there were no remaining slices of the six bad pizzas. However, they weren\'t perfect and there were some problems. At the places, there\'s perfection and no problems. Like waiting in line at both Sally\'s and Pepe\'s on a Sunday, huh, Wonder Bread Wolf?
The Tournament could always be elaborated. Of course, there\'s always toppings to consider. Then again, I\'m all for never doing another Tournament. Instead, we could eat pizza and use words to convey our thoughts.
Pitch
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There needs to be another apizza contest, we cannot just stop here forever. I have 2 ideas:
1. Do the entire Superhaven contest again, with new seeds, and this time do it on-premise. Rank dough, cheese, sauce, service, and overall 1-10 since you don\'t have both pies at the same time. You\'ll still know which was better even if you eat the pies an hour apart.
2. The AAA tourney: Little Italy (Deli), Dominos, Pizza Hut, Papa John\'s, DePalma\'s and any other apizza places that weren\'t in the first tournament. If there aren\'t 16 spots filled, throw in store pizza like DiGiorno\'s and Uno\'s.
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A great time, but a big letdown from the supposed heavyweights. Definitely the worst pie I have ever had from both Sally\'s AND Pepe\'s, I\'m sure most would agree. Who would\'ve guessed that? The Sally\'s tasted like cardboard box to a lot of people and seemed thicker and gummier than usual. The 3 Sally\'s pies were very inconsistent. The Pepe\'s was cold and the cheese was crispy. That is just wrong. The last Pepe\'s was dry as a desert, with no sauce and charred cheese. It was actually bad. People wouldn\'t even eat it. Sally\'s and Pepe\'s on an off night is still better than most other apizza though. (Although that last Pepe\'s was actually bad.) I voted Sally\'s on all categories but didn\'t mind seeing them lose. I thought it was funny how everyone was saying "Well, if we went to the places we would get perfect pies and there would be no problems..." I\'ve been saying to do the contests on-premise since the beginning! Poker and hi-def Sox-Yankees was great too. Thanks everyone!
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PEPE\'S defeats SALLY\'S 6-5...
in the final of the SuperHaven Apizza Tournament, thus claiming the championship.
Details to follow...
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I\'m taking a train 100 miles for this! May the best pie win! Much as I love walking out of Sally\'s loaded with pies and making all the customers drool, I think it is best if I do not pick up the pies, unless everyone wants to pay double. You know, now that I think about it, I was the one who picked up the $19 large mooz from Tony and Lucille\'s in the first round. Perhaps they were on to me as well?
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Fred was actually named to the SuperHaven Apizza Tournament All-Star Team as the starting server
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Originally posted by ChrisPitch
Cigarette smokers are inelgible.
Freddie, you serving again? :lol:
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Don\'t forget that this Sunday at approximately 7:30 PM we will have the final of the SuperHaven Apizza Tournament featuring Wooster St. heavyweights Sally\'s and Pepe\'s in a one-time taste-test cage match to see who has the best pizza in the New Haven area.
Sally\'s has earned a 9-0 win over Brazzi\'s, a 5-2 victory against Modern, and a 5-2 triumph versus Grand to reach the championship.
Pepe\'s knocked off Tony and Lucielle\'s 8-1, then downed Staven Apizza Champion Giuseppe\'s 4-3, followed by a 6-2 trouncing of Olde World to make it here.
Should be classic. If you\'ve particpated in any of these rounds, going back to when we had 16 places in contention last year, you are required to attend. If you\'re a tournament rookie and want to participate, please verify such with Dave and then go. Cigarette smokers are inelgible.
See yous there
Pitch
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all i know is, i had pepes last pm and it was incredible(as usual)
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No Paul, it\'s not my typical sarcasm. We did have the final last night, it ended in a deadlock, and it\'s on Seth, one of the tournament\'s most steadfast supporters, to determine who has the best apizza in the SuperHaven area, and arguably the world.
And next week, we\'re starting the SuperDakota Tournament, matching the 64 elite apizza establishments of North and South Dakota against each other in a taste-bud extravaganza. There\'s this place, I think it\'s called Mama Tony\'s Italian Pizza, near Mount Rushmore that makes a ridiculous peppers and onions. So I hear.
In other words, be there the 25th!
Pitch
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Originally posted by boombox
Italian pizza is usually pretty bad too!
well, i just came back from italy and i have to respectfully disagree with you. i didn\'t have a single bad bite of apizza the entire 2 weeks i was there (and i had apizza at least once a day!)
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chris, is that typical sarcasm, or is there still going to be one more showdown on the 25th?
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I would love to, but I can\'t afford the $40 large mooz with the Sally\'s Jew Tax.
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Actually, the final was instead moved up to tonight and ended in an 11-11 tie. Consequently, your vote will determine the champion. Please go to Dave\'s house on July 25 with a large mooz of each and crown the victor. We\'re counting on you Wolf!
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There still has to be the obligatory cancellation.
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It\'s official:
SALLY\'S APIZZA VS. FRANK PEPE PIZZERIA NAPOLETANA in the final of the SuperHaven Apizza Tournament at the abode of Dave Pec.
Sunday, July 25, 7ish.
Pitch
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Originally posted by Wolfman
Bigtime oxymoron right there...Alabama pizza. While I\'m at it, I\'ll try some Staven grits!
Grits are great... the perfect catalyst for butter & salt.... yum.
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Originally posted by DocEllis70
staven grits...great name for a band.
Or a Breakfast album!
Originally posted by boombox
Italian pizza is usually pretty bad too!
OUCH! If this is true, then is Superhaven apizza the best apizza IN THE WORLD???
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Originally posted by Marcial
You think you have it bad? Try Alabama pizza!
Think I can beat that. I have NEVER had even a half decent pizza in the UK unless I\'ve made it myself.
Funnily enough, the best European pizza I\'ve ever had was in the South of France - Italian pizza is usually pretty bad too!
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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staven grits...great name for a band.
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Originally posted by Marcial
Try Alabama pizza!
Bigtime oxymoron right there...Alabama pizza. While I\'m at it, I\'ll try some Staven grits!
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You think you have it bad? Try Alabama pizza!
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I have to second that, even though I haven\'t even experienced all of the Staven pizza places (only 2)... However, Seth, you think you have it bad, try living in NEW HAMPSHIRE. ugh,
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You know what the only problem with Superhaven apizza is? Once you\'ve had it a few times, all other apizza starts to suck. A lot. It\'s not a problem if you live in the Superhaven area, you can just keep on chowin\'. But for people like me who visit a lot but live elsewhere, apizza is ruined. New York City is supposed to have good apizza. In the last 4 months I have had all 3 NYC chains twice (at 2 different locations), as well as a host of independent apizzerias and delis. Some are better than others, but I really don\'t get off on any of them. I don\'t rate any one of them higher than a 5. Even the nice sit-down apizza restaurants have to have a stellar night to get a 7. Had I never discovered the wonders of Superhaven apizza, I would have found all of this apizza to be just fine. But now I don\'t like it. I suppose this is good for health reasons. However, I have to say that the joys of Superhaven apizza are balanced out by the depreciation in apizza enjoyment outside of Superhaven.
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Ooh, I just drove down 91 today but didn\'t see your post. Woulda snagged a quick pie on my way through town! Well, I\'d love to get there soon. Plan on hitting Modern and/or Pepe\'s before the Cafe 9 shows, but that\'s not for 2.5 months.
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Originally posted by Wolfman
Sounds good! Where the $%& is Wallingford?
right off exit 13. 15 mins from new haven
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Sounds good! Where the $%& is Wallingford?
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Originally posted by Wolfman
I\'m just more interested in best experience in a restaurant than just best tasting apizza. I\'d rather know where to take a New Haven newbie for dinner than know that a bunch of people who worship Sally\'s picked Sally\'s as the best apizza.
You should try Trackside Pizza in Wallingford if you want great pizza and a great experience. Quick service, friendly owners and waiters, and excellent selection of beverages because their family owns foxon park. And on top of everything else you get to eat inside of antique train car. The pizza is great too. When you factor everything in its my favorite pizza place just barely beating sallys. Plus you can go to trackside and know that by the time you get out of there the night is not almost over.
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Originally posted by davepeck
the tournament is to determine who has the best-tasting pizza. period.
You can\'t sit down in Domino\'s, so it is out. And the 30 minute guarantee lasted for about 10 minutes. I\'m just more interested in best experience in a restaurant than just best tasting apizza. I\'d rather know where to take a New Haven newbie for dinner than know that a bunch of people who worship Sally\'s picked Sally\'s as the best apizza. There\'s nothing wrong with loving Sally\'s pie, I think it\'s great that so many people think it is so good. I\'ll be the first to say it\'s the best apizza I\'ve ever had. It just takes something away from the tourney when all the judges come in with such a predetermined favorite, so I\'m suggesting some possible ways to level the playing field a little bit. This tourney is like taking a bunch of Breakfast fans from this site, and doing a tourney with The Breakfast, moe., SCI, My Morning Jacket, Raq, OM Trio, Motet, and Uncle Sammy, and having everyone listen to a show from each band in a matchup and decide which they liked the best. I wonder who would win that. Sure, each band would get some votes, but The Breakfast would obviously win.
Maybe it\'s the Red Sox fan in me, but I find it kinda boring when overwhelming favorites win all the time. Who knows, it\'s not over, maybe Sally\'s will lose, but the Wolf line has Sally\'s at -210 right now.
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mmmm....cheesy bread
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domino\'s does make some good wings though....
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Originally posted by Wolfman
Gee, Sally\'s vs. Pepe\'s...there\'s a shocker. Everyone\'s gonna know which is which, blindfolded or not, it\'s just gonna be a matter of people\'s predetermined preference. Before the apizza is served, ask everyone in the room which they prefer. The blindfolded results will be identical.
not true. if this were the case, i wouldn\'t have voted against my favorite place (john & maria\'s) in the tourney.. same reason sally\'s and pepe\'s both had votes against them the other night.. tim even voted for grand over sally\'s right down the line.. i voted against sally\'s in the cheese department.. blah..
I might not know the difference, having only had Pepe\'s once (in the quarterfinals), but is there anyone who lives in the Superhaven area who thinks they won\'t know the difference?
sunday night was only the second time i\'ve ever had pepe\'s..
Since the blindfold factor is out, I say that the finals should be sit-down in each restaurant, with service as a counted category. Figure out which is truly the better restaurant. This I want to know. We learn nothing from hearing that a blind taste test among a bunch of Superhaven Italianos indicated Sally\'s as the best apizza. What do the people think?
blah... that\'s not why we\'re having the tournament. the tournament is to determine who has the best-tasting pizza. period. we all know sally\'s service sucks.. that\'s not the point.. if you service is all you care about, call domino\'s and they\'ll have it to you in 30 minutes or less, or it\'s free.. just don\'t forget to order some tangy buffalo wings and cinnamon sticks to compliment their great apizza..
...and that\'s why we\'re pizza snobs. ;)
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Gee, Sally\'s vs. Pepe\'s...there\'s a shocker. Everyone\'s gonna know which is which, blindfolded or not, it\'s just gonna be a matter of people\'s predetermined preference. Before the apizza is served, ask everyone in the room which they prefer. The blindfolded results will be identical. I might not know the difference, having only had Pepe\'s once (in the quarterfinals), but is there anyone who lives in the Superhaven area who thinks they won\'t know the difference?
Since the blindfold factor is out, I say that the finals should be sit-down in each restaurant, with service as a counted category. Figure out which is truly the better restaurant. This I want to know. We learn nothing from hearing that a blind taste test among a bunch of Superhaven Italianos indicated Sally\'s as the best apizza. What do the people think?
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no date scheduled as of yet, but we\'re looking at Sally\'s vs. Pepe\'s in the finals..
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So when are the finals and who\'s in it? I\'ve had enough of all these sudden date changes every time...I make big plans for these and then everyone goes and cancels and the date changes. I\'m making big plans for the finals, will go on pizza strike from now until then so I don\'t weaken my pizza palatte. Any dates scheduled?
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i agree that the wait has nothing to do w/ the pizza. i\'m talking strictly pizza here. it\'s just really not all that it\'s **** up to be. the cheese wasn\'t fresh and the pie was extremely greasy. the crust was good, but nothing spectacular.
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the wait has nothing to do with the quality of the pizza..you go on a bad night at a bad hour youre not gonna be too happy. thats just inexperience.
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all i know is... SALLY\'S SUCKS! sorry to all you die-hards out there, but sally\'s really is not worth the wait at all.
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All i know is ..LAKERS LOST!!
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Aww yeah, bringin back the apizza thread. Heard that the semis were last night and want an update. I want all stats for dough, cheese, sauce, and box Pitchie! Seriously, who\'s in the finals and will this be over before the 1 year mark? (Thread was started on 6/18/3 after the seeding.)
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Good site, but nowhere to review pizza. A lot of people on there with their tongues way up Sally\'s :ass: I wish there was an open review section so the rest of the unbrainwashed world could hear the horrible truth!
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http://www.pizzatherapy.com
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There should be a website dedicated to reviewing and discussing pizza. beeradvocate.com is a great model. If I had the time and resources I would love to start pizaadvocate.com Anyone know of a good site?
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What about the box category?
BTW a proposition for the Final Four: The Final Four should be conducted ON-PREMISE and service should be an included and counted category. Even if you eat the pizzas 1 hour apart, it\'s easy to know which is better.
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What a night.
Wooster Street powerhouse Pepe\'s dodges a scare from Staven Champion Guiseppe\'s and wins 4 to 3. Guiseppe\'s wins the seperate dough category 4-3 while Pepe\'s takes both sauce and cheese 5-2. For Guiseppe\'s, a great pie and a worthy effort. For Pepe\'s, actually an off night, which says a lot considering they still won. They received all four of my votes.
Then, in a nightcap battle of New Haven middleweights, Grand beats Wooster Street\'s Abate\'s 5-2, sweeping all three side categories 5-2. I thought both were average I voted for Abate down the line. I\'ve now gone against Grand both times they\'ve won, the first being an upset over Staven runner-up John & Maria\'s in the first round.
THE FINAL FOUR
Sally\'s vs. Grand
Pepe\'s vs. Olde World
Three New Haven\'s, including two Wooster\'s, plus one Cinderella North Haven pizzeria. Possible Sally\'s vs. Pepe\'s final? Should be interesting.
Thanks to Lisa, Lisa, Dave, Tim, Mike and Jay for judging with myself, thanks to Ron and Adrian for serving, and special thanks to Ron and Lisa for hosting, marking the first time the venue was switched from Dave and Lisa\'s Staven abode on the south side a Foxon. Clearly, with the matchup being held in New Haven, Pepe\'s had home-table advantage over Guiseppe\'s. It\'s all politics.
Pitch
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pepe\'s has always been my choice...went there on saturday
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it\'s on tonight, folks - FINALLY. after a no-excuse 3-month hiatus, we\'re ready to rock tonight. for those of you involved, we\'re looking to kick things off around 6:30, with a possible simultaneous poker game... could get interesting..
unfortunately after tonight, we\'re looking at another 6 weeks before the final four kicks off, since the band will be away. during that time, i\'ll be taking a pizza hiatus of my own, as i\'m in need of a break (especially from sally\'s, who, as wolfman stated above, has been less than stellar as of late).
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My vote for a while has gone with Pepe\'s
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Personally, I always like Modern the best... Sally\'s was always good, but not good enough to make up for the hassles....
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All I have to say is **** SALLY\'S. These **** pizans charged me $36 for a large mooz and onion and a medium plain last night. A medium plain is $7...so the large is $26? I\'m equally mad at myself for not realizing it until later, but they did it and they did it on purpose because they know that I am not a freakin guinny. Meanwhile, Frankenstein the waiter just HAD to shoulder check me and Mike 3 times apiece. I\'m still sore from picking up the Super Bowl pies...6 checks that day, I got hit more than Tom Brady. Oh yeah, and they randomly took the phone off the hook, so we had to go down there just to make a take-out order which took them 2 hours and 15 minutes to make. There is no other pizza place on earth that a) takes 2.25 hours to do a take-out order b) takes the phone off the hook for no reason c) has a waiter who forcibly commits perverted and rough homosexual contact upon all customers and d) charges you double for being a Jew. The quality of the pizza does not atone for all of these sins, especially with so many other fantastic apizza establishments on the same street. Go to hell Sally\'s!
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Actually the tournament has been reskeded for Thursday, March 11 at Dave Pec\'s. I\'d say the time would be around 6:30 or 7, but Dave will confirm that.
Again:
2003-04 SUPERHAVEN APIZZA TOURNAMENT
QUARTERFINALS
GRAND vs. ABATE\'S
PEPE\'S vs. GUISEPPE\'S
SEMIFINALS
Sally\'s vs. Grand/Abate winner
Olde World vs. Pepe/Guiseppe winner
Should be great.
Pitch
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WTF! 3 hours\' notice?? This sucks! I want to go!
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Well, believe it or not, the 2003-04 SuperHaven Apizza Tournament continues Sunday, March 7 at Dave Pec\'s house at 5 p.m. We will be doing two quarterfinal matches, after which we will hold the Final Four at a later date.
On Sunday, Grand will face Abate in a matchup of New Haven establishments. The winner faces Sally\'s in the semis.
Also, Wooster Street\'s own, Pepe\'s, will take on 2002-03 Staven Apizza champion Guiseppe\'s. The winner of that match faces North Haven power Olde World Brick Oven in the semifinals. It should be noted that Guiseppe\'s actually lost to fellow Staven heavyweight Paul\'s in the first round, but that match was wiped from the books when Paul\'s went out of business between rounds. So Guiseppe\'s got another crack at the first round and beat Main Street Apizza, another Staven place, to advance.
So that\'s it: Grand vs. Abate\'s and Pepe\'s vs. Guiseppe\'s with the winners to the Final Four. Sunday. At Dave\'s. Around 5. Hope to see as many people there as possible. Our goal is to finish pre-Sopranos at 9. I expect that we will. Results to follow.
Chris Pitch
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Olde World \'eh? where\'s that it?
Should be no shocker Sally\'s over Modern, although the Advocate would like to think so. . .
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Last night\'s results:
Olde World def. The Spot
Sally\'s def. Modern
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hey pitch, bring the pj tonight if you get this beofore you leave!
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it\'s a go! we\'ve met the minimum requirements and then some!
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if this is def a go, i\'m in. peck get in touch someway to confirm before I drive all the way down there.
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count me in for sure.im on slave duty.cant wait for modern vs sallys.should be a nailbiter.
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so it looks like we\'re trying to pull something together for tomorrow (tuesday) night, 7pm... who\'s in??
we\'re down to the elite eight... tomorrow night we\'ll see 2 of the 4 following matchups:
(1) Modern v. (9) Sally\'s
(5) Abate\'s v. (13) Grand
(6) Pepe\'s v. (3) Guiseppe\'s
(10) Olde World v. (2) The Spot
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Skye, the pizza is not served as a late night snack, go with the Italian Combo sub, only cos the people workin that late can\'t make a chicken cutlet or a chicken parm, takes them like 20 minutes. . . (way too many late night Deli run\'s for me)
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Originally posted by antbach
I think I have had Little Italy (Deli) once even though I can basically spit on it from my house. Wasn\'t all that bad, and for the money ya can\'t go wrong. But when I walk in there I\'ll just stick with the chicken cutlet from The Deli, so delicious. . . [/B]
Ant, I agree on that..... I love the deli for the fact its the only place in town to get a sandwich at 1 am besides my grandmother\'s kitchen. But I still question the pizza there, maybe i should try it the next time I am stopping in to get a midnight drink.....
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Aww man, a strike against me in my lifelong quest to achieve honorary Italian status and Staven citizenship. I thought I remebered the soda factory being up the street from The Deli, but I guess it\'s the momauguinitis doing the thinking. Well whatever, I say Little Italy should get a spot in the tourney if there\'s still a controversy there.
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Paul\'s is closed??? Ouch! When? As you can see I haven\'t spent a whole lot of time in town since September.
As for Tolli\'s, I agree Skye, I have been eating Tolli\'s since I was a baby too but I just can not do it anymore. The quality of everything there has just gone rock bottom, including their subs and service.
I think I have had Little Italy (Deli) once even though I can basically spit on it from my house. Wasn\'t all that bad, and for the money ya can\'t go wrong. But when I walk in there I\'ll just stick with the chicken cutlet from The Deli, so delicious. . .
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maybe so, but Tolli\'s looks all fancy-schmancy now and the pizza isn\'t as good as it used to be, what\'s that tell ya?
Last time i had Tolli\'s i burnt my mouth and tongue real bad trying to satisfy herbal induced hunger (wink, wink) by eating a oil-soggy pepperoni pizza with my friend Glenn. The waitress said that she honestly never saw two people eat a large that fast ...haven\'t been back since.
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I don\'t think I could ever eat pizza from the deli, just for the fact it looks like a crack shack.
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dollar for dollar, The Deli aka Little Italy\'s pizza is good.
$10 for a large with any amount of toppings!!! I\'ve never seen that before this place, and it\'s pretty good. I\'d suggest the chicken & broccoli red or white, or pepperoni & meatball if you don\'t mind a little grease. Experiment! I got John & Maria\'s literally around the corner from me so I don\'t make too many stops unless I\'m in momouguin.
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Originally posted by Wolfman
Also not to be forgotten is The Deli in Foxon. They slide under the radar because it\'s not a strictly pizza joint, but they make some fine pie, and in a pinch you can get it by-the-slice.
ah wolfie, showin\' the lack of Staven geography knowledge. ;)
i live in Foxon. The Deli (aka Little Italy) is in the Momauguin section of Staven, down by Adrian.. (though technically Momauguin is furthur down)..
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Originally posted by SkyePrizm
Dave, do you know they raised the prices so they can pay for the remodeling?? The subs have gone up two dollars and so have the bottles of the foxon park soda.......
that\'s crap too, but still doesn\'t top Tony & Lucielle\'s charging $19 for a large mozz, no topping, shitpie. i can honestly say that i will never eat there again because of our experience with them this past sunday.. they suck suck suck.
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John and Maria\'s is damn good. I love their Italian Flag pie, although when I had it 18 months ago it was the last time I ate red meat, thanks to the damn Pecoraro family :) Also not to be forgotten is The Deli in Foxon. They slide under the radar because it\'s not a strictly pizza joint, but they make some fine pie, and in a pinch you can get it by-the-slice. Say, I can\'t believe I didn\'t think of it before, but The Deli should take one of those open spots in the Superhaven Pizza Tourney, if there are any left.
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Originally posted by davepeck
couldn\'t have said it better. in last year\'s Staven tournament, Tolli\'s delivered a nice shitpie and was eliminated by Paul\'s in the first round. maybe they\'re more concerned about their remodeling that they have been working on for about 3 years now than they are with making pizza.
Dave, do you know they raised the prices so they can pay for the remodeling?? The subs have gone up two dollars and so have the bottles of the foxon park soda....... I\'ve heard from an inside source that they are doing this cause funds are running low and they want to pave that freaking parking lot..... I once again, being a woman of tradition, think this remodeling thing was a bad idea. I\'ll always remember tolli\'s as the way it was......with the leather booths that stuck to your ass in the summer, with the convenience store next door........ they will never be a fancy resturant....
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Ant, I do have to agree they have declined, but I am a woman of tradition......and my grand papy would roll over in his grave if I didnt proclaim tolli\'s the best. I\'ve been eatting that pizza since I had my baby teeth......if I had to venture away from staven pizza, I must say I love the pizza at bar....also the salad they have there is excellent.
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Originally posted by antbach
Skye, Tolli\'s has gone from being one of the best pies in CT to probably one of the weakest pies on Main Street.
couldn\'t have said it better. in last year\'s Staven tournament, Tolli\'s delivered a nice shitpie and was eliminated by Paul\'s in the first round. maybe they\'re more concerned about their remodeling that they have been working on for about 3 years now than they are with making pizza.
ant, you know paul\'s closed, right? it\'s a shame too, as i\'d just discovered them last year during the staven tourney, and they made their way into #3 in Staven for me (behind #1 J&M\'s and #2 Guiseppe\'s)..
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Skye, Tolli\'s has gone from being one of the best pies in CT to probably one of the weakest pies on Main Street. Actually East Haven pizza has gone downhill in a whole too. Paul\'s and DePalma\'s are the only two that have stayed consistent over the years on the south side of town. I can\'t really speak for the Foxon folk because I have only had John and Maria\'s and I do say they make a pretty good one.
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my personal new addiction is John & Maria\'s white spinach and garlic. Generally, I think they make better of the \'white\' variety than the \'red\' (w/ sauce) and sometimes they\'ve been known to burn a pie whcih proabably happens kinda easlity it being a thin crust...I as well as Pitchy can see the place from our houses so it\'s aways been a staple for me (try the steak and cheese subs too).
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Oh god, it\'s that damn pizza thing.....I didn\'t know this could travel beyond pitchdom. Chris, there is hope for you yet.......I am glad you have found something to feel passionate about....
I\'d like to begin by saying, there shouldn\'t even be a tournament, cause we all should know by now that Tolli\'s is the best....and I don\'t care what you all say.....
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oh my gosh -- you guys RULE! i wish i would have read this post sooner! being italian, i naturally share in your passion for the pie. hopefully i\'ll be able to attend one of these tournaments in the future. i\'m not a cig smoker, but are there any other requirements i should know about?
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T+C, did I really write that? Only a true NES player would abbreviate Tony and Lucille\'s with T+C.
That\'s as good as what happened earlier in the day. Pec had this drink called Advant-Edge, but the way they spread out the letters on the logo I thought it was Edge-Avant. So I said "Dave, what\'s this Edge-Avant stuff, is it any good?" Wow.
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Originally posted by Wolfman
The T+C crust...
T+C = Town & Country?? Surf Designs?? (i know you know what i\'m talking about, wolf!)
Turds & Crap??
**** & ... oh nevermind...
:)
anyways, i think T+L\'s definitely tasted most like dog food, and at $19 for a large mozz, they got a LOT of nerve!
yesterday was certainly "No Tolerance Pizza Day", and i had voted on several occasions throughout the day to remove T&L\'s completely from the tournament due to their \'holier than thou\' behavior... no one wanted to listen though, and we ended up with a $19 shitpie.
was a successful day overall, though i wish we could have done 4 matchups instead of only 3 (which technically we could have, but people were hungry and wanted to double up for 2 extra pies during Round 2)..
good turnout, but if these pies had toppings, they would have been sausage (our first all-male pizza turnout - what\'s up with that??)... props to Freddie for taking the Designated Server position like a man, having fun, and doing a hell of a job at it.
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Well, all I have to say is my nizzle is throughly shizzled after 8 large pizzas between 11 people, all blindfolded! Six different places! Pitchie, get in here with the statistical analysis please. I can\'t believe how much fun that was. Not to mention all of the football and PB videos. I think my mind may have been slightly skewed when I was the only one to vote for Tony and Lucille\'s over Pepe\'s, but honestly I thought they both kinda sucked. The T+C crust was like a piece of matzah (gross), but Pepe\'s crust was as chewey as most gum and squirted grease as you chewed it (gross). Sauce I gave to Pepe\'s, cheese went to T+C, so it was pretty much a toss-up. I was disappointed with Pepe\'s, but I would still like to go there. You will NEVER catch me at T+C\'s paying $19 a pie for that crapola. See the burp thread for comments on that. Can\'t wait for the next round.
Wolf
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bumpworth...
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do it wolf! you won\'t regret!
off to sally\'s & dbb...
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WOW! 4 big rounds! I will do everything I can to be there.
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after a three month hiatus, the tournament resumes this sunday at 2:30pm!!
looking for as many people as we can get, as we\'ll try to get through 4 matchups in the afternoon/evening.. should be a fun time.. those who are/want in, please let me know.. later.
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Hey, how about a round the night before the CBC show, or maybe even the night of the CBC show? It\'ll round out a great party night, and lots of people shjould be able to make it.
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i wont be there.i smoke cigarettes...figure that one out!!
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ATTENTION ALL:
thursday night... 7pm... 2 more matchups... let me know if you\'ll be there..
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Yeah, and the stag had a moment or two
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Thanks Dave, but please note that I wasn\'t really "up" at 9 in the morning. I was awake from the previous day. I guess I was worked up into such a frenzy as a result of placing slices of pizza in styrfoam plates and distrubting them to blindfolded people. Either that, or I was writing 3500 words worth of high school journalism brilliance. Or perhaps Paul\'s puts **** in the crust.
Pitch
By the way, I feel "**** in the Crust" is a great name for an album of a **** band.
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he\'s a changed man, i tell ya...
it all started with that look on his face on saturday night. :holyshit:
he had no idea what he was in for...
and now he\'s awake at 9am writing novels about pizza. what is this world coming to??
i could imagine what he\'d be like if they actually made use of that snapple bottle... :hscratch:
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I thoroughly proofread the entire post and **** up the spelling of APPIZA in the subject. Well, it\'s like not the word apizza played an important role in regards to the post.
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More first-round action of the 2003 SuperHaven Apizza Tournament took place at Dave Pec\'s on Sunday. We had ten people in attendance. Nine judges. One server. That would be me, sitting out my two-match suspension for (correctly) guessing the pizza places I voted for in the two previous first-round matches and displaying the guesses on my vote sheet.
My feelings on this matter have already been documented.
So this gave me a chance to serve the pizza, which provided me with a golden opportunity to tamper. Oddly, I opted not to tamper. I stuck to the plan, dished out the slabs, and away we go.
PAUL\'S DEFEATS GIUSEPPE\'S 7 to 2
Giuseppe\'s, which shocked many a Foxoner with its Cinderella run to victory in the 2002 Staven Tournament, was promptly bounced from the major leagues by Paul\'s, a fellow Stavener, and better yet, a Momauguin Stavener. Paul\'s also posted a strong showing in the Staven Tournament, blowing out supposed Main Street heavyweight Tolli\'s, then losing to eventual runner-up John and Maria\'s, which has yet to have its first-round match in this tournament. Anyway, seven of the nine judges felt that, overall, Paul\'s produced a better pie. I agreed. It was my favorite of the night. I am a Foxoner, but show no geographical bias when it comes to apizza. These are two of my favorites.
In the side statistics, Giuseppe\'s won the dough category and Paul\'s won the sauce and cheese categories.
Giuseppe\'s now has an overall record of 3-1 with a vote total of 20-10.
Paul\'s has an overall record of 2-1 with a vote total of 17-8.
ABATE\'S DEFEATS PERROTTI\'S 7 to 2
A matchup between two Wooster Street dark horses turned into a laugher. This was the first tournament appearance for either of these places. I had never eaten either of them and liked Abate\'s much better. So did everyone else as they won big overall and swept the dough, sauce and cheese categories. For the record, I had Perrotti\'s as a 5-1 favorite to win the tournament and Abate\'s as a 40-1 favorite. So much for word of mouth. Still, Perrotti\'s, while hardly a bad pizza, was my least favorite of the night. And that\'s the point of the tournament: places that are average by comparison are good nonetheless.
Although, to be honest, Perrotti\'s has to come up with something a little better if it expects to make it on that street.
But hey, I\'m no restauranter.
Chris Pitch
For the record...
FIRST-ROUND RESULTS
Modern 5, BAR 4
Sally\'s 9, Brazzi\'s 0
Paul\'s 7, Giuseppe\'s 2
Abate\'s 7, Perrotti\'s 2
FIRST-ROUND MATCHES
John and Maria\'s vs. Grand
Pepe\'s vs. Amity
Zuppardi\'s vs. Olde World
Spot vs. Tony and Lucielle\'s
QUARTERFINAL MATCHES
Sally\'s vs. Modern
Abate\'s vs. John and Maria\'s/Grand winner
Paul\'s vs. Pepe\'s/Amity winner
Zuppardi\'s/Olde World winner vs. Spot/Tony and Lucielle\'s winner
As always, it was a great time. Thanks to Dave, Tim, Justin, Aruny, Paul, Christine, Mike, Jackie and Jay.
Hope to see everyone again and more
Pitchie
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reminder: this sunday marks the next pizza day - 4 matchups, 8 pies in total!! should be a great day! email me and let me know if you\'re in, and i\'ll get you more details!
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I believe sarcasm is the effect that Mr. Wah is going for
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Originally posted by freddiewaht
actually,i dont wanna have our own tournament.i was wondering if you guys needed a pizza pickerupper,or perhaps a server.id really like to serve you guys pizza!
I mean its not up to me but I think we should vote on that...Dave, Pitch?
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actually,i dont wanna have our own tournament.i was wondering if you guys needed a pizza pickerupper,or perhaps a server.id really like to serve you guys pizza!
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Yes, Antonio\'s does make a tobacco pizza. If you ask for it "with extra veggies", they give you the secret shaker that looks like it has Italian spices, but it\'s actually cannibis flakes. (It\'ll cost you an extra five bucks.) The kids love it.
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Hey Fred
I think it\'s a great idea. You should do the exact same tournament match-ups as us and see if it comes out the same, to see if great apizza is great apizza across the board, to see if the palate is actually "negatively affected" as so they claim. Pizza tournaments are obviously infectious to everyone so I fully understand your desire to get involved. I\'m with it.
Say, what say you guys have a side tournament in which you compare the pizzas with cigarettes cooked in. C\'mon, wouldn\'t a nice slice of Sally\'s plain go great with a **** Salem 100? Or Pepe\'s with a Doral? Or Domino\'s with a clove? I think Antonio\'s in Mass makes the tabacco-stuffed crust, but only if you get it with fried bumblebees and an Atari 7800 controller.
But Fred, if you guys need a server, I\'m obviously available.
Pitch
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Can I smoke cigs while eating pizza Fred?? Me likey!!!
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thats correct pitchy.were havin our own pizza tournament for the cigarette/pot smokers!!
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Hello everybody
The judging works like this:
We all eat a slice of each and vote for which tasted better overall. Whoever gets the most of these votes wins and moves on. But we also, for no reason other than statistics, judge which of the two places has the best sauce, the best dough and the best cheese. This way, at the end of the tournament, you could say something like Sally\'s (just for an example) won the tournament. But they also had a sauce record of 44-5, a cheese record of 38-11, etc. This way we know why certain places win or lose. But you\'re right. The sum is more important that the parts. Even though BAR won 2 of 3, Modern\'s apizza won because it had the ingredients come together better and that was what stimulated enough taste buds and gave Modern my vote and the victory. But BAR needn\'t be ashamed. They made a great pie. It was as tight a decision as I\'ve had to make (involving pizza anyway) and was a great contest between two of the area\'s heavyweights. Now Modern vs. Sally\'s in the quarterfinals. Whew.
Anyway, thanks for taking an interest.
Chris Pitch
By the way, regarding my suspension....
BULLSHIT
MOOSEDUNG
KANGAROOMANURE
RHINOFECES
PANDADOODY
RATCRAP
GUPPIEPOO
In other words, an utter outrage. Ah, it\'s all politics. Thank Maturo for that one. By the way Dave, who voted in favor of me, knowing that my suspension would not be warranted since I was simply showing off my ginzo expertise, and not displaying bias since I obviously have just one ass.
Pitch
PS-I cannot verify this, but there are rumors circulating that the Nicotine Smokers Union of Staven will be sponsering their own tournament to "rival" ours. Can anyone confirm or deny these reports that I plucked off the grapevine?
It is common knowledge that nicotine smokers are not allowed to judge in the tournament due to the fact that it "negatively affects their palate," according to Dave Pec, Hostmaster of the SuperHaven Apizza Tournament. Fortunately the Pot Smokers Union of Staven is allowed to judge, which is good considering that I don\'t think Dave and Lisa would have much fun judging by themselves. Plus, you need an odd number people, which we have in more ways than one.
See yous
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bar won 2 of the 3 subcategories... modern won cheese.
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Originally posted by melanie
Just wondering, how did Modern beat BAR though BAR won for sauce, dough, cheese? Must be something along the lines of the whole being more than the sum of the parts. Curious.
that sounds kind of like the last presidential election
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Apizza innocence is abliss! My vote counts double!
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Just wondering, how did Modern beat BAR though BAR won for sauce, dough, cheese? Must be something along the lines of the whole being more than the sum of the parts. Curious.
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Wolf your vote may be more pure than most votes out there, due to your non predetermined favorism of a particular pie.
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whoops.. fixed..
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the correct date is JULY 20 :P
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sunday july 20th wolf... day after my stag... you comin\' to my stag??
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Hey, I know that I USED to extol the virtues of Anshitio\'s pizza, but I have come to my senses and everyone knows it, and I want to be there for the next round. So let me know when it is! Cmon, how many Jews do you know that spell apizza with an "A" at the beginning? please...please...:kissass:
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FUCKIN PIZZAGEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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in other news, chrispitch was issued a one-round suspension for alleged foul play. :rolleyes: the board voted 7-2 in favor of a one-round suspension for mr. pitch. :
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Hey Dave..my fault. I was in the city this weekend and sunday afternoon I was like..\'oh ****, how are they gonna have this first round without my Virginia Beach pie expertise"..so i called Tim and told him to tell you guys it\'s perfectly alright to continue without me, and im glad you did. Hope everything went smoothly, and may God watch over future rounds to guide us all in making good decisions and keeping the honesty and integrity in this tournament. Amen. Aruny
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last night was the official kickoff of the tourney, blindfolds and all! pictures to come, but here are the results:
#1 Modern def. #16 BAR 5-4
#9 Sally\'s def. #8 Brazzi\'s 9-0
there you have it. sally\'s was a landslide, while the other matchup was extremely close. in fact, BAR actually took 2 out of the 3 subcategories (dough, sauce, cheese), but Modern squeezed out the overall victory.
with the band leaving for tour, we\'re looking to do the next round the day after my stag (7/20). looking to get an all-day thing going and knock out 4 rounds! stay tuned...
...and where were you last night, aruny??
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Sunday..i believe, is the kick off before they go on tour so thats the first matchup..Im pullin for either Modern or Pauls.Sallys is like the Lenox Lewis of pizza and may just knock all these places out, but you cant say that until its over.
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Right and here\'s the rest since I accidentally sent:
Giuseppe\'s 10-1
BAR 10-1
Olde World 25-1
Grand 30-1
Abate 40-1
Tony & Lucielle\'s 60-1
Amity 100-1
Brazzi\'s 200-1
A completely unbiased analysis based on previous eating experiences, word of mouth, and most important, difficulty of the random draw:
BRACKET A
1. Modern vs. 16. BAR
8. Brazzi\'s vs. 9. Sally\'s
5. Abate\'s vs. 12. Perrotti\'s
4. John & Maria\'s vs. 13. Grand
BRACKET B
6. Pepe\'s vs. 11. Amity
3. Giuseppe\'s vs. 14. Paul\'s
7. Zuppardi\'s vs. 10. Olde World
2. Spot vs. 15. Tony & Lucielle\'s
The winners face each other in the championship. I\'m looking forward to it. Thanks again everybody.
Chris Pitch
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I\'d like to send a shot out to everyone who helped with the drawing of the 2003 SuperHaven Apizza Tournament. I wish I didn\'t have to work, but I\'m glad the brackets are set, and I\'m pleased with the matchps. Thanks to Tim for being the MC, Dave for filling in the brackets, Aruny for the easel, Josh and Jess for hosting and letting us take the stage, and Adam Greenberg for taping the event, so that verifcation can be available if anyone somehow learning about this many years down the road finds it hard to believe that people actually did this.
So thanks and let\'s eat!
Just for fun, here\'s the odds on who will win the tournament and be declared, Best Pizza in the Immediate New Haven Area, which is loosely translated as Best **** Apizza in the World.
Here goes:
Sally\'s Even
Pepe\'s 2-1
Spot 3-1
Perrotti\'s 5-1
John & Maria\'s 6-1
Zuppardi\'s 6-1
Paul\'s 7-1
Modern 8-1
Giuseppe\'s