thebreakfast.info
Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: simpletwistupdon on October 09, 2009, 07:42:58 am
-
thanks!!
-
Do any of the original Diesels from Callahans exist?
-
oooooo thank you
-
http://www.blueberrydreams.com/Audio/dieselexperiments2003-01-22.flac16.zip
junk-n-jams
-
holy packard goose two guitar peak!!!!!
-
anyone have the "GRUNGE" one???
I had a copy of the second one (somewhere in Massachusetts) at one point. It was the one where Callie from Electric Blue sat in on vocals for Stardog Champion and one other song (Outshined?). Chris Fitz and I were the only two people there, so I assume that Chris is the one that recorded it.
-
anyone have the "GRUNGE" one???
-
the zappa deisle expt also has orange county lumber truck on it, for the record. such a sick show
-
stretched out over 185 consecutive weekends, ftw!!! :lol:
-
If only there was time for a Zappa A-Z diesel experiment!
-
Zappa
Turns out i already had it on the server. GO figure :)
So this is the transfer originally listed..
http://www.blueberrydreams.com/Audio/dieselexperiment2003-01-29.flac16.zip
-
wow, thanks for all the work!!
-
For the Zappa it seems that I only made a DVD-A. I must have thought I burned it.
But No worries. I have the original DAT. I fired up my transfer rig and did a brand new transfer of the Zappa.
I\'ll post an updated source etc
it will be
Sony A7 > Coax > Tascam HDP2 T-Mod (16/48) > Sandisk CF > Wavelab > CD WAV Editor
-
I have the full tracked out diesels on my HDD but in 16/48
Ill grab the archived dvds out and get the 16/44.1 for you guys so it wont cause issues on playback. if anyone want the 16/48 stuff I can post that as well
awesome!
-
Dither away, kind one!
-
I have the full tracked out diesels on my HDD but in 16/48
Ill grab the archived dvds out and get the 16/44.1 for you guys so it wont cause issues on playback. if anyone want the 16/48 stuff I can post that as well
Diesel Experiment
Lennon v. McCartney
2003-01-15
Tobacco Road
New York, NY
Source: AKG 461 (X/Y) >Grahman Patten DMIC20 >COAX >Sony D8 (16/48)
Transfer: Sony A7 >COAX >Waveterminal 192x >Wavelab 5.0a >FLAC 1.7.1
Disc 1
01] Band On The RUn
02] Working Class Hero
03] Every Night
04] Instant Karma
05] Man We Was Lonely
06] Isolation
07] Mrs Vandebilt
08] God
09] That Would Be Something
10] Mother
11] Long Haired Lady
12] Nobody Told Me
13] Maybe I\'m Amazed
14] Cold Turkey
15] Hold On
16] Give Me Some Truth
17] How DO You Sleep
18] The Back Seat Of My CAr
19] Band On The Run
Diesel Experiment was:
Tim Palmieri - Guitar
Ron Spears - Bass
Adrian Tramontano - Drums
Jordan Giangreco - Keys
Pete Pidgeon - Guitar
Diesel Experiments - Zappa
2003-01-29
Tobacco Road
New York, NY
Source: AKG 461 (X/Y) >Grahman Patten DMIC 20 >Sony D8 (16/48)
Transfer: Sony A7 >Dogstar silver-clad COAX >ESI Waveterminal 192X >Wavelab 5.0 (UV22 HR) >CD WAV Editor >Flac
Disc 1
01] Your Probably Wondering Why I\'m Here
02] Heavy Duty Judy
03] Catholic Girls
04] Pygmy Twylyte
05] Blessed Relief
06] Cletus Awreetus Awrightus
07] Eat That Question
08] Mother People
09] Lets Make The Water Black
10] Harry You\'re A Beast
11] Oh No
12] Packard Goose
13] Enchidna\'s Arf (Of You)
The Diesel Experiment is:
Jordan Shapiro - Keyboards
Robbie Seahag Mangano - Guitar
Ron Spears - Bass
Adrian Tramantano - Drums
Tim Palmieri - Guitar
Diesel Experiments
Junk -N- Jams
2003-01-22
Tobacco Road
New York, NY
Source: AKG 461 (X/Y) > Grahman Patten DMIC20 >Sony D8 (16/48)
Transfer: Sony A7 >Waveterminal192X >Wavelab 5.0a >CD WAV Editor >Flac
Disc 1
01] Intro
02] Straight Life (Freddie Hubbard)
03] Led Boots (Jeff Beck)
04] King Kong (Frank Zappa)
05] Red Barron > Wabash (Billy Cobham > J.Scofield)
06] Shake For Me (Stevie Ray Vaughn)
07] Hidden Shadows (Herbie Hancock)
08] Come And Get It (Miles Davis)
09] Tell Me Something Good (Chaka Khan) *
Notes: * w/ Dawn ???
Diesel Experiment:
Tim Palmieri - Guitar
Jeff Giland - Guitar
Adrian Tromantano - Drums
Dan Edenberg - Bass
Denis Lickman - Mandolin
-
Next Diesel Experiment: October 31, 2009: P-Funk
Good to know that there is now permission to distribute the Diesel Experiments shows. Any chance we can put these shows on archive.org? I love that ****.
Also, I have a good chunk of footage of the Frank Zappa Diesel Experiment. If someone in the A/V crew could synchronize the video with the audio files that exist and possibly post it on youtube/sendspace that would be great. Would make a nice Christmas present for the B\'fam.
will the older DE shows be archived under Tim palmieri?
what is the video format?
PM sent
-
sweet, thanks tim!! can\'t wait to hear \'em!
-
I was going upload a few DE shows. when i installed the drive, it started clicking and could not access the drives data. the error message was "master sector error" on boot up. the drive has not been spun up in a few years. it also sucks because it has all of 1999,2000, and 2001 psychedelic breakfast is on it. pb is on archive, cd audio disks and peck has it on drive, so its not lost. I worry that archive may not be available someday or they loose data(shows) which they have done already. Some of the CD disks are 10 years old, who knows how long they can be read. I have about 5 other drives that are 5 years old or older.
09/11/02 Fatty\'s On The Green - Wallingford, CT
Taper: Chris FitzPatrick (cfitzpatrick@snet.net);Source: Sony ECM-MS907 Microphone > Sony Portable MiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37; Location: 3 feet from stage; 6 foot stand; Conversion: Sony Portable MiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37 > Cool Edit 2 > CD Wave > WAV; APE: Master WAVs > Monkey\'s Audio
not a deisel experiment, but this is the earliest live recording of tim solo acoustic that i know of.
nice!
Next Diesel Experiment: October 31, 2009: P-Funk
Good to know that there is now permission to distribute the Diesel Experiments shows. Any chance we can put these shows on archive.org? I love that ****.
Also, I have a good chunk of footage of the Frank Zappa Diesel Experiment. If someone in the A/V crew could synchronize the video with the audio files that exist and possibly post it on youtube/sendspace that would be great. Would make a nice Christmas present for the B\'fam.
will the older DE shows be archived under Tim palmieri?
what is the video format?
-
Somehow I ended up with a recording of the RHCP diesel experiment back in the day. The second set was Blood Sugar Sex Magic all the way through. I listened to it constantly for about 2 months and then accidentally sat on it and **** it in half. Broke my heart.
Maybe some of the sources might start surfacing now that Tim gave the approval to let them out.
-
Somehow I ended up with a recording of the RHCP diesel experiment back in the day. The second set was Blood Sugar Sex Magic all the way through. I listened to it constantly for about 2 months and then accidentally sat on it and **** it in half. Broke my heart.
-
09/11/02 Fatty\'s On The Green - Wallingford, CT
Taper: Chris FitzPatrick (cfitzpatrick@snet.net);Source: Sony ECM-MS907 Microphone > Sony Portable MiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37; Location: 3 feet from stage; 6 foot stand; Conversion: Sony Portable MiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37 > Cool Edit 2 > CD Wave > WAV; APE: Master WAVs > Monkey\'s Audio
not a deisel experiment, but this is the earliest live recording of tim solo acoustic that i know of.
-
i will revive the DE in 2010.
MOAR ZAPPA!
-
Next Diesel Experiment: October 31, 2009: P-Funk
Good to know that there is now permission to distribute the Diesel Experiments shows. Any chance we can put these shows on archive.org? I love that ****.
Also, I have a good chunk of footage of the Frank Zappa Diesel Experiment. If someone in the A/V crew could synchronize the video with the audio files that exist and possibly post it on youtube/sendspace that would be great. Would make a nice Christmas present for the B\'fam.
-
I know there was one with an RHCP set... any others that can be remembered?
I think I remember the RHCP Diesel being at a place in Holyoke, MA. Either Springdale Hall or that 1 other place they played (can\'t remember the name).
-
05/23/01 deisel experiments- Callahan\'s; Cheshire, CT 2 shn/2wav SOURCE:Matrix:1: Soundboard > Behringer MX802A > Tascam DA-P1 2: AKG 480/ck63* > Behringer MX802A > Tascam DA-P1 *on stage split 5 feet ;Original Recording by Dave Pecoraro & Matt Vallo (mvallo@snet.net).DAT>CD Conversion by Dave Pecoraro (davepeck79@home.com):Tascam DA-P1 > Turtle Beach Montego II > Sound Forge 4.5 > CDWave > SHN
06/13/01 DEX - dave has shn
12/12/01 The Diesel Experiments: Red Hot Chili Peppers - Callahan\'s Cafe; Cheshire, CT 2 shn/2wav soundboard matrix via digi001/protools ;2 overhead drum mics (Akg483>dmic20>spdif>digi001);4 vocols mics (board inserts);1 gutar (s57\'s);1 bass (direct);1 kick bass (s57\'s);recording/mixing/tracking/shn by matt vallo (mvallo@snet.net)
12/26/01 "The Diesel Experiments: High Life - Callahan\'s Cafe; Cheshire, CT
" 2 shn/2wav some missing; soundboard matrix via digi001/protools ;1 overhead drum mics (Akg483>dmic20>spdif>digi001);4 vocal mics (board inserts);1 gutar (mic) digi pre ;1 bass (direct);1 kick bass (mic) digi pre;1 lesley (hi) (Akg483>dmic20>spdif>digi001);1 keyboard (direct);recording/mixing/tracking/shn by matt vallo (mvallo@snet.net)
04/03/02 DEX -tim and jordan - dave has shn
04/10/02 DEX Callahan\'s; Cheshire, CT 2 shn/3wav Digi001/Protools 24bit/48k >16/44.1(rough mix)
04/16/02 Callahan\'s; Cheshire, CT - jam 2 shn/2wave digi001/protools; recorded by: matt vallo
09/11/02 Fatty\'s On The Green - Wallingford, CT
Taper: Chris FitzPatrick (cfitzpatrick@snet.net);Source: Sony ECM-MS907 Microphone > Sony Portable MiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37; Location: 3 feet from stage; 6 foot stand; Conversion: Sony Portable MiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37 > Cool Edit 2 > CD Wave > WAV; APE: Master WAVs > Monkey\'s Audio
09/22/02 DEX - new haven- grunge Sennheiser k6/ME62 : 15 ft split 5 Feet infront of PA > DMIC20 > DA-P1
10/02/02 The Diesel Experiments: Junk\'n Jams-The Living Room - Providence, RI shn Taper: Chris FitzPatrick (cfitzpatrick@snet.net) Source: Sony ECM-MS907 Microphone > Sony PortableMiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37Location: 0 feet from stage; 7 foot standConversion: Sony Portable MiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37 > CoolEdit 2 > CD Wave > WAVAPE: Master WAVs > Monkey\'s Audio
10/23/02 DEX - open square- holyoke- funkadelic VS RHCP dvd3
mulittrack
01/15/03 DEX (Performed by the members of Psychedelic Breakfast);Tobacco Road - New York City, New York; Featuring: John Lennon VS. Paul McCartney 2 shn "Recording by Mike Deary
Source: AKG 460\'s ((CK-1 Caps) X/Y)-> Grahman Patten DMIC 20->Oade active COAX->Sony D8 (48)-> Ecocharge Batteries"
01/22/02 DEX ; Tobacco Road - New York City, New York; Featuring: "Junk in Jams"; ;Tim Palmieri (guitar);Jeff Guilman (guitar);Dan Edinburg(bass);Denis Lickman (clarinet and mandolin);Adrian Tramontano (drums) 2 Recording by Mike Deary; Source: AKG 460\'s ((CK-1 Caps) X/Y)-> Grahman Patten DMIC 20->Oade active COAX->Sony D8 (48)-> Ecocharge Batteries; Transfer by Matt Vallo; Tascam DA302 > Digi001/Protools(S/PDIF)* > CDwave > SHN;*normalized and 48k > 44.1 conversions
01/29/03 The Diesel Experiments ; 2003-01-29 Tobacco Road - New York City, New York; Featuring the music of "Frank Zappa"; Tim Palmieri (guitar),rob (bass),Jordan shaparo (keys),Adrian Tramontano (drums) Recording by Mike Deary; Source: AKG 460\'s ((CK-1 Caps) X/Y)-> Grahman Patten DMIC 20->Oade active COAX->Sony D8 (48)-> Ecocharge Batteries; Transfer by Matt Vallo;Tascam DA302 > Digi001/Protools(S/PDIF)* > CDwave > SHN;*normalized and 48k > 44.1 conversions
Holy good stuff here! I found this on my taper list from 2004. A lot of this was first time played, raw, unpolished and experimental, which made it so good! thank you Tim and all musicians that made it happen!
-
Close the yearbooks, kiddies. Its time to move forward. Tomorrow is a better day.
Your pessimism is venomous and clueless see Tim\'s post below. DE LIVES!!!!!
I\'d still like to hear "In the Court of the Crimson King," though.
Ditto! Used to love the way they used to bust out stuff like that and Legend of a Mind.
Have got a couple of the DEs in audio if anyone needs them.
Up them. See Tim\'s post below.
I recorded all of the Diesel Experiments at Tobacco Rd in NYC
They were
Lennon v. McCartney
feat. Sequoia on Keys, Save on Bass, Adrian on Drums, Tim on Guitar and Pete Pigeon on Guitar
Zappa
feat. Members of Project Object, Save, Adrian and Tim
Junk N Jams
Adrian, Save, Tim, Some girl sings a tune. I do not recall who was playing keys at the moment
Up them. See Tim\'s post below.
here they are in order.
acoustica
acoustica 2
junk\'n jams
Zappa vs. Dead
americana
high times
lennon vs. mccartney
zappa
junk\'n jams 2 & 3 &.......
i can\'t remember whether junk\'n jams preceded zappavsdead or vice versa. i had a blast doing these shows but it was tough with the energy i put into them, the crowd we drew, and the money we made. trust me i have list of experiments i want to do and will do in the future. the breakfast covering cartoon themes was one of them. beatles a-z was one as well. so i still vent my creative ideas just hasn\'t been through the diesel label. i will revive the DE in 2010.
thanks to all who supported DE, came to the shows, and now send me warm thoughts in remembrance. they were fun.
if you guys want the tapes go for it. i was self conscious that the music wasn\'t the tightest due to the lack of practice before the shows but............. wtf. enjoy.
peace
Cartoonage was a Diesel idea?
Awesome. May have to make a disc of just the toons.
Awesome DE in 2010. Hmmmm
Keep it flowin\' Tim.
-
Nice Tim! Thats great to hear... thanks for your insight and words of wisdom regarding the past DE shows. As always, anything that you\'ve been a part of ends up a quality product and damn good time IMO. I\'m definitely lookin forward to anything that comes in the future!
-
here they are in order.
acoustica
acoustica 2
junk\'n jams
Zappa vs. Dead
americana
high times
lennon vs. mccartney
zappa
junk\'n jams 2 & 3 &.......
i can\'t remember whether junk\'n jams preceded zappavsdead or vice versa. i had a blast doing these shows but it was tough with the energy i put into them, the crowd we drew, and the money we made. trust me i have list of experiments i want to do and will do in the future. the breakfast covering cartoon themes was one of them. beatles a-z was one as well. so i still vent my creative ideas just hasn\'t been through the diesel label. i will revive the DE in 2010.
thanks to all who supported DE, came to the shows, and now send me warm thoughts in remembrance. they were fun.
if you guys want the tapes go for it. i was self conscious that the music wasn\'t the tightest due to the lack of practice before the shows but............. wtf. enjoy.
peace
-
Zappa
Lennon vs. McCartney
Fusion
Americana
Junk & Jams
I know there was one with an RHCP set... any others that can be remembered?
-
I\'m just interested in the Americana DE for obvious reasons...
-
why didn\'t tim want them released? not arguing, just curious....
-
i\'d love to grab whatever of these are around. ss/mediafire/etc would be great!
Ditto to that, so long as its ok w/ Tim!
-
most of the deisels were never released at tims request. Dave did tape a few/all of the calahan ones, but I don\'t think they ever made release.
there\'s some pictures from them in the gallery.
-
i\'d love to grab whatever of these are around. ss/mediafire/etc would be great!
-
I recorded all of the Diesel Experiments at Tobacco Rd in NYC
They were
Lennon v. McCartney
feat. Sequoia on Keys, Save on Bass, Adrian on Drums, Tim on Guitar and Pete Pigeon on Guitar
Zappa
feat. Members of Project Object, Save, Adrian and Tim
Junk N Jams
Adrian, Save, Tim, Some girl sings a tune. I do not recall who was playing keys at the moment
are these recordings floating around anywhere? I would love to hear \'em
-
Are there any Callahan DE out there?
-
I recorded all of the Diesel Experiments at Tobacco Rd in NYC
They were
Lennon v. McCartney
feat. Sequoia on Keys, Save on Bass, Adrian on Drums, Tim on Guitar and Pete Pigeon on Guitar
Zappa
feat. Members of Project Object, Save, Adrian and Tim
Junk N Jams
Adrian, Save, Tim, Some girl sings a tune. I do not recall who was playing keys at the moment
-
I\'d still like to hear "In the Court of the Crimson King," though.
Ditto! Used to love the way they used to bust out stuff like that and Legend of a Mind.
Have got a couple of the DEs in audio if anyone needs them.
-
I\'d still like to hear "In the Court of the Crimson King," though.
-
Callahan\'s is now Yellowfins - an upper scale seafood place. good happy hour specials. soccer mom central.
I vaguely remember being at one of the last shows there because I think they had made an announcement that it was closing the following week after whatever show it was...
-
Callahan\'s is now Yellowfins - an upper scale seafood place. good happy hour specials. soccer mom central.
-
Callahans was sooooo much cooler then Corner Pocket could ever be.
Corner pocket is a borderline crack den.
I have no argument with you there... Callahan\'s is history though isn\'t it?
-
Callahans was sooooo much cooler then Corner Pocket could ever be.
Corner pocket is a borderline crack den.
-
Diesel Experiments were a lot of fun, but I would imagine that they didn\'t really pay the bills or win over that many new Breakfast fans. On average, Tim can probably make a little more scratch playing Sir Duke and Wonderwall at BAR every Wednesday in front of a decent-sized crowd than by playing "In the Court of the Crimson King" in front of 14 dotINFOers at the Puppethouse.
I agree that it probably didn\'t pay the bills... I kind of compare the DE\'s to the GTB in that they did it for fun and made a few extra bucks. Corner Pocket is totally a venue that seems that it could support something similar. They continually brought in the GTB and had Chris & Tim in for the Jethro Tull Project. I\'m not sayin the DE\'s need to be resurected, although it would be nice for a project similar to emerge every once in awhile. I was unable to make the Tull show and was very disappointed in myself for it, but I definitely love the randomness of gigs like that which, to me is what the DE\'s represented.
-
Diesel Experiments were a lot of fun, but I would imagine that they didn\'t really pay the bills or win over that many new Breakfast fans. On average, Tim can probably make a little more scratch playing Sir Duke and Wonderwall at BAR every Wednesday in front of a decent-sized crowd than by playing "In the Court of the Crimson King" in front of 14 dotINFOers at the Puppethouse.
I know that I had an OK quality recording of one of the grunge experiments, but at this point it probably only exists on a hard drive that Chris Fitz hasn\'t used in years.
-
Close the yearbooks, kiddies. Its time to move forward. Tomorrow is a better day.
I know, I know... I was just being nostalgic. Of course I appreciate all of the present projects that are around and look forward to anything that any of these guys produce. Its easy for your mind to wander on a 45 minute drive on the way to work. Honestly, all I\'m looking forward is to the hour long drive home to get to the playwright tonight!
-
Does anyone have any recollection of the order of all the DE shows or even better are there any recording floating around out there?
Recordings that exist which I know of the top of my head are:
Diesel Experiments: Frank Zappa
Diesel Experiments: Lennon vs McCartney - (the solo years)
Diesel Experiments: Fusion
-
Close the yearbooks, kiddies. Its time to move forward. Tomorrow is a better day.
-
on a tangential note, i got a good laugh this morning when i was behind the personalized license plate~
VIN GASL
-
Over the last decade there has been several high water marks, Puppet House shows, Richter Wednesday nights, Porters, and Callahan\'s Diesel Experiments to name a few.
I don\'t think you can recreate that magic.
IMHO, our best course of action as fans is to support these band members in their creative persuits so that we\'ll be there when the lightening strikes again.
-
I was on my way to work this morning and as usual my mind floats off into a million things as I try to make the 45 minute drive pass by with some purpose. I started to remember back to the days of the Diesel Experiments... man, I miss those. I spent many good nights at Callahans enjoying those shows. It seems as though what started off as an experimental concept has shifted into a couple of solid side projects over the years though which is great... the Good Time Boys, Beatles A-Z. Does anyone have any recollection of the order of all the DE shows or even better are there any recording floating around out there? ****... how great would it be if that project ever resurfaced? One can dream...