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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: Vassillios on October 02, 2009, 09:39:42 pm
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All my friends used to like Umphrey\'s, then like 2-3 years ago decided Umphrey\'s suddenly sucked and Biscuits were better.
I still like Umphrey\'s better. Curious to see what my friends will move on to once they get burnt out on Biscuits ;)
Yeah, it\'s interesting that when recordings go up on bt.etree, the number of leechers on UM shows seems to be diminishing. However, IMHO they are playing much better shows than the biscuits at the moment - better songs and far better structured setlists and jams, which actually go somewhere, rather than staying in one place for too long.
This seems to be reflected in the albums too. Last couple of UM albums were very good, but then Mantis is a monster and one of my candidates for album of the year, whereas I can\'t remember the last biscuits album I got excited about.
i gotta say se?or boombox (no pun intended boombox) was a good biscuits album. haven\'t heard it in a while bc somebody stole it from me but i\'d like to give it another listen someday
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All my friends used to like Umphrey\'s, then like 2-3 years ago decided Umphrey\'s suddenly sucked and Biscuits were better.
I still like Umphrey\'s better. Curious to see what my friends will move on to once they get burnt out on Biscuits ;)
Yeah, it\'s interesting that when recordings go up on bt.etree, the number of leechers on UM shows seems to be diminishing. However, IMHO they are playing much better shows than the biscuits at the moment - better songs and far better structured setlists and jams, which actually go somewhere, rather than staying in one place for too long.
This seems to be reflected in the albums too. Last couple of UM albums were very good, but then Mantis is a monster and one of my candidates for album of the year, whereas I can\'t remember the last biscuits album I got excited about.
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All my friends used to like Umphrey\'s, then like 2-3 years ago decided Umphrey\'s suddenly sucked and Biscuits were better.
I still like Umphrey\'s better. Curious to see what my friends will move on to once they get burnt out on Biscuits ;)
Is it really that shocking? Flame bait regarding Disco Biscuits guarantees an active thread.
No matter how completely and utterly unrelated it may be :lol:
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I\'m just psyched i started a thread that\'s 4 pages long.
i can retire now.
I am as shocked as you are.
There aren\'t even threads this long about the Breakfast epics.
You, sir, have done a fantastic job creating something out of nothing.
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I\'m just psyched i started a thread that\'s 4 pages long.
i can retire now.
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DIRTY PARIS or TIMBRE COUP, two hot progressive sensations from my neck of the woods.
Can\'t check them out in work as anything with mp3s gets blocked by the system(and they have closed the workaround!) Loved the Timbre Coup bio on jambase:
"Timbre Coup is your favorite band. They rock harder than sedimentary, and roll harder than a Biscuits kid."
Song titles sound pretty cool too: "Arnold Schwarzenegger" and "Don\'t Fly a Key on a Kite String When It\'s Lightninging"
Will let you know what I think.
Thread mini-hijack over!
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who cares about biscuits **** in a bugs thread ? brown brown central
i dont give a **** either way jsut stirrin ****
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oh yea where is the who **** cares about bugs voting option?
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what does any of this bullshit have to do with bugs ? MODS UNITE !!! ;)
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getting...angrier...by the...second....
luckily, i was able to catch a bunch of \'03-\'04 phish shows, so i stopped worrying about "correct" notes a long time ago. and i\'m not sure if it\'s the support he has or if it\'s him , but the biscuits/barber jam better on a more consistent basis than any other band i\'ve ever seen. no disrespect to the breakfast or phish, but the creativity of the biscuits is on a different level right now. and for the record i\'m only comparing present-day playing, not \'99 biscuits, or mid-90\'s phish, or the peak of the breakfast (whenever that was). tuna, i hope you\'re around this weekend to witness some of this. and if not, oh well...i\'m not in the business of trying to convince people of the biscuits\' greatness (i leave that to nicknels).
holy ****!
rotfl omg rotfl Thank you so much. I haven\'t had a laugh that good since I can\'t even remember.
Wow. That\'s some good **** right there.
**** up part is that zuke is 100% right.
All time I love bfast #1, phish #2, Biscuits #3
But so far in 2009 biscuits are jamming MUCH harder/tighter/better than either of the other two. Listen to the tapes. Proof is in the pudding. Be here now breh. Biscuits have been on a roll and getting better for a few years now. Phish peaked 15 years ago and is way over the hill nostalgia act. Bfast started the year very strong but lost a lot of momentum with the lack of practicing and extended touring.
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getting...angrier...by the...second....
Chill brah so what if I don\'t like a band you like? You\'re still comin thru to party and possibly sleep right.
your sarcasm meter needs recalibration
and i\'m looking forward to hanging out this weekend, at a biscuits show or not
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I think I have seen the Biscuits, but it might have just been a dream. Nothing too outstanding; seemed to be very appealing for those on hard (er?) drugs. Who knows--- I have not heard enough to even talk smack, but from what I\'ve heard, I could never in a million centuries call them better at jamming than The Breakfast, or DIRTY PARIS or TIMBRE COUP, two hot progressive sensations from my neck of the woods.
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Listening.... okay with 4 minutes left I\'m still wondering exactly where Barbar does anything besides play like half a scale back and forth... about 2 minutes left... okay picked up the pace a little bit but it sounds like a lot of hella easy repeating riffs to me.
I guess the jam just peaked cuz Barbar hit a high note and people in the crowd seem excited about it. Okay now he\'s playing a couple notes pretty fast.
Dunno sounds like every other Biscuits jam to me. Barbar was basically MIA until the last few minutes and then he riffed on easy major scale stuff with no progression or deviation from the box.
Show me something in a minor key or a little darker and more progressive feel to it?
Dunno man I think it\'s gonna be hard to convince me. It\'s not like I haven\'t heard a **** ton of Biscuits considering how many of my friends pop tents for \'em... not really a matter of "oh you need to hear this or that song". I wouldn\'t sweat it though we all like what we like. I\'m on a Rage Against the Machine / Soundgarden kick at the moment so you\'re swimmin\' upstream when it comes to that one ;) You and Zuke and everyone else going enjoy the shows I\'ll be around for the weekend chillin, probably going on a date with Ash during the friday show and who knows Saturday.
Should be a good time. Little less concerned about the scope of things at the moment... I think my room mate realizes having the ultimate rager of all time right across the street from the Calvin is a dumb idea and trying to tone down the plans just a tad :P
getting...angrier...by the...second....
Chill brah so what if I don\'t like a band you like? You\'re still comin thru to party and possibly sleep right. Really no point in giving a **** about my opinion about various other bands or electronic untzy music in general. This is a Breakfast board and that\'s why I\'m here anyway. And you guys are Bfam and we\'ve partied it up before which is why you got a place to be and probably enjoy a good party and super convenient location on the hizzzy kiid!
Deep breaths > acceptance of various tastes in music > party on broseph
tuna, i hope you\'re around this weekend to witness some of this. and if not, oh well...i\'m not in the business of trying to convince people of the biscuits\' greatness (i leave that to nicknels).
Yeah I\'ll be around most of the time except I got other plans during show time. As far as I can tell the Biscuits have more than enough fans so I wouldn\'t sweat it. Personally looking forward to Dark Star Orchestra, The Breakfast, The Wailers, Yonder Mountain String Band, The Alchemystics, Jim Weider\'s Project Percolator, Pink Floyd Experience, Max Creek coming to town soon, as well as lots of Breakfast shows in the region hopefully before new years, not to mention hopefully a handful of Phish shows after "8".
So yea don\'t worry I\'m not exactly deprived of live music ;)
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getting...angrier...by the...second....
luckily, i was able to catch a bunch of \'03-\'04 phish shows, so i stopped worrying about "correct" notes a long time ago. and i\'m not sure if it\'s the support he has or if it\'s him , but the biscuits/barber jam better on a more consistent basis than any other band i\'ve ever seen. no disrespect to the breakfast or phish, but the creativity of the biscuits is on a different level right now. and for the record i\'m only comparing present-day playing, not \'99 biscuits, or mid-90\'s phish, or the peak of the breakfast (whenever that was). tuna, i hope you\'re around this weekend to witness some of this. and if not, oh well...i\'m not in the business of trying to convince people of the biscuits\' greatness (i leave that to nicknels).
holy ****!
rotfl omg rotfl Thank you so much. I haven\'t had a laugh that good since I can\'t even remember.
Wow. That\'s some good **** right there.
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Barbar totally sucks at guitar... it amazes me how many wrong notes a guy can hit when he almost never deviates from a boxed-in major pentatonic scale... it all sounds so the same and lazy. I mean even Timmy and Trey hit accidental notes (Trey moreso hehe) but they\'ve developed the skill to adapt on the fly and turn an accident into something unique and cool. Barbar lets those sour notes hang and IMO its way amateur.
Maybe some blues / jazz lessons? LOL people like it, they make bank, so whatever. The fact is Tim or Trey put more effort into a single song than Barbar puts into a whole show though.
Just my take as a guitar player. Love to see some guitar duals or other guitarist sit ins at a Biscuits show..... let\'s get Scofield up there for a minute to turn some worlds upside down :P
Just my commentary from having watched the video Zuke posted in the other thread ;)
getting...angrier...by the...second....
luckily, i was able to catch a bunch of \'03-\'04 phish shows, so i stopped worrying about "correct" notes a long time ago. and i\'m not sure if it\'s the support he has or if it\'s him , but the biscuits/barber jam better on a more consistent basis than any other band i\'ve ever seen. no disrespect to the breakfast or phish, but the creativity of the biscuits is on a different level right now. and for the record i\'m only comparing present-day playing, not \'99 biscuits, or mid-90\'s phish, or the peak of the breakfast (whenever that was). tuna, i hope you\'re around this weekend to witness some of this. and if not, oh well...i\'m not in the business of trying to convince people of the biscuits\' greatness (i leave that to nicknels).
back to the subject at hand: i hope bugs never comes back. i agree that it does sound different...but in an amateur hour way. you know what else sounds different? reel time...and cosmic spaceway rhyme (i know it\'s probably not coming back, but i love the song)...and a lot of the elements of \'vessel.\' hopefully those are more present in future shows than bugs.
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Barbar totally sucks at guitar... it amazes me how many wrong notes a guy can hit when he almost never deviates from a boxed-in major pentatonic scale... it all sounds so the same and lazy. I mean even Timmy and Trey hit accidental notes (Trey moreso hehe) but they\'ve developed the skill to adapt on the fly and turn an accident into something unique and cool. Barbar lets those sour notes hang and IMO its way amateur.
Maybe some blues / jazz lessons? LOL people like it, they make bank, so whatever. The fact is Tim or Trey put more effort into a single song than Barbar puts into a whole show though.
Just my take as a guitar player. Love to see some guitar duals or other guitarist sit ins at a Biscuits show..... let\'s get Scofield up there for a minute to turn some worlds upside down :P
Just my commentary from having watched the video Zuke posted in the other thread ;)
Please listen to the last 10 minutes or so of "Shelby Rose" from this show (http://www.archive.org/details/db2006-11-03.mbho.flac16) and tell me "Barber totally sucks at guitar"
He really does adapt his playing to fit the particular jam or song the band is playing. His sound is very unique and fitting to the Biscuits overall sound. The type of guitar work Trey and Timmy do would not mesh well with the Biscuits\' sound at all. Apples and Oranges, it\'s really hard to compare
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Barbar totally sucks at guitar... it amazes me how many wrong notes a guy can hit when he almost never deviates from a boxed-in major pentatonic scale... it all sounds so the same and lazy. I mean even Timmy and Trey hit accidental notes (Trey moreso hehe) but they\'ve developed the skill to adapt on the fly and turn an accident into something unique and cool. Barbar lets those sour notes hang and IMO its way amateur.
Maybe some blues / jazz lessons? LOL people like it, they make bank, so whatever. The fact is Tim or Trey put more effort into a single song than Barbar puts into a whole show though.
Just my take as a guitar player. Love to see some guitar duals or other guitarist sit ins at a Biscuits show..... let\'s get Scofield up there for a minute to turn some worlds upside down :P
Just my commentary from having watched the video Zuke posted in the other thread ;)
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Fine... I was wrong about the logistics. I do remember seeing them at Toads back in 2000 or 2001... Must have been there for the opening act... Regardless, I live in North Jersey, if I wanted to hear music with a club style beat, I can drive 10 minutes to Hoboken and there\'ll be 20+ places places music with the same sound, except it won\'t be a live band trying to sound like a dj playing music, it\'ll actually be the dj... On a side note, I give them props for Echoes...
Agreed! And having been into them for as long as I\'ve been into the Breakfast, felt that when I did finally get the chance to see them last year, they were blown away by Umph! All the UNTZ stuff gets sooooo boring. If they went back to the sort of stuff they were playing when they were on top of their game on the 2k tour, THEN they would be a top band again. Forget "moving on" - if it ain\'t broke, don\'t try to fix it. Barber needs to wail on a more regular basis, which the current stuff does not allow him to do.
Incidentally, they did two decent additional covers when I saw them - Interstellar Overdrive and Have A Cigar (with Jake from UM).
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bring it back
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bring back echoes!!
that shiz was sick at hammerstein\'d ballroom!!
-peaches incognito
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Fine... I was wrong about the logistics. I do remember seeing them at Toads back in 2000 or 2001... Must have been there for the opening act... Regardless, I live in North Jersey, if I wanted to hear music with a club style beat, I can drive 10 minutes to Hoboken and there\'ll be 20+ places places music with the same sound, except it won\'t be a live band trying to sound like a dj playing music, it\'ll actually be the dj... On a side note, I give them props for Echoes...
Yoda...stop, please, you are embarrassing yourself
Only Flounder can turn a thread about the Breakfast\'s song Bugs into a Disco Biscuits thread.....
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in
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Only Flounder can turn a thread about the Breakfast\'s song Bugs into a Disco Biscuits thread.....
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Fine... I was wrong about the logistics. I do remember seeing them at Toads back in 2000 or 2001... Must have been there for the opening act... Regardless, I live in North Jersey, if I wanted to hear music with a club style beat, I can drive 10 minutes to Hoboken and there\'ll be 20+ places places music with the same sound, except it won\'t be a live band trying to sound like a dj playing music, it\'ll actually be the dj... On a side note, I give them props for Echoes...
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gencs = the man
(and not in a good way)
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You are all wasting your employers time with this bullshit. Get back to work!
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i was gonna say, if the biscuits ever opened for PB, i would think the breakfast would be doing a lot better right now
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Sorry, but the several times I saw them open up for PB at Toad\'s back in the day, all they played was UNTZ style bullshit...
self\'d
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Why not put all songs back in the rotation and add a space/trance/untz jam to it so that all of the tunnel-vision fans will be happy...
Why can\'t the breakfast play ballads that don\'t have jams associated with them (Vera Street / QMATM)? Phish does it and GD did it... Would you guys considerate epic or cheesy if they covered November Rain - it\'s a ballad... I don\'t get why people are forcing them to keep to essentially one sound, which is what bands like the disco biscuits do...
Disco Biscuits have covered:
Safety Dance
Novemember Rain
I\'ve Got a Feeling
Echoes
You Can\'t Always Get What you Want
Kashmir
Low (Florida)
Pygmy Twylyte
That\'s a pretty well rounded range of covers...and that is just off the top of my head. STFU Yoda and do some research before you make ignorant comments about a band you know NOTHING about.
BTW...I am a Bugs fan and I am all for bringing it back!
Sorry, but the several times I saw them open up for PB at Toad\'s back in the day, all they played was UNTZ style bullshit...
The Biscuits have played Toad\'s place exactly 2 times...neither were opening for the Breakfast. So what you are saying is that you have never seen this band live, yes? And I doubt you have ever given them a serious listen on tape...so before you articulate their sound and what they play, why don\'t you do some research first. Okay Buddy? Thanks.
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Why not put all songs back in the rotation and add a space/trance/untz jam to it so that all of the tunnel-vision fans will be happy...
Why can\'t the breakfast play ballads that don\'t have jams associated with them (Vera Street / QMATM)? Phish does it and GD did it... Would you guys considerate epic or cheesy if they covered November Rain - it\'s a ballad... I don\'t get why people are forcing them to keep to essentially one sound, which is what bands like the disco biscuits do...
Disco Biscuits have covered:
Safety Dance
Novemember Rain
I\'ve Got a Feeling
Echoes
You Can\'t Always Get What you Want
Kashmir
Low (Florida)
Pygmy Twylyte
That\'s a pretty well rounded range of covers...and that is just off the top of my head. STFU Yoda and do some research before you make ignorant comments about a band you know NOTHING about.
BTW...I am a Bugs fan and I am all for bringing it back!
Sorry, but the several times I saw them open up for PB at Toad\'s back in the day, all they played was UNTZ style bullshit...
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Why not put all songs back in the rotation and add a space/trance/untz jam to it so that all of the tunnel-vision fans will be happy...
Why can\'t the breakfast play ballads that don\'t have jams associated with them (Vera Street / QMATM)? Phish does it and GD did it... Would you guys considerate epic or cheesy if they covered November Rain - it\'s a ballad... I don\'t get why people are forcing them to keep to essentially one sound, which is what bands like the disco biscuits do...
Disco Biscuits have covered:
Safety Dance
Novemember Rain
I\'ve Got a Feeling
Echoes
You Can\'t Always Get What you Want
Kashmir
Low (Florida)
Pygmy Twylyte
That\'s a pretty well rounded range of covers...and that is just off the top of my head. STFU Yoda and do some research before you make ignorant comments about a band you know NOTHING about.
BTW...I am a Bugs fan and I am all for bringing it back!
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Why not put all songs back in the rotation and add a space/trance/untz jam to it so that all of the tunnel-vision fans will be happy...
Why can\'t the breakfast play ballads that don\'t have jams associated with them (Vera Street / QMATM)? Phish does it and GD did it... Would you guys considerate epic or cheesy if they covered November Rain - it\'s a ballad... I don\'t get why people are forcing them to keep to essentially one sound, which is what bands like the disco biscuits do...
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God no. 2005 was like the year of "let\'s totally kill the energy of an otherwise epic set by sticking [-]Bugs[/-] vera st in it".
fixed.
Now I\'d love if Vera came back:duck:
Why duck when you have a great idea?
The leap that the band has taken vocally makes this idea better than you probably realized when posting it.
Its a great change of pace tune and the band would definitely kill on this one. Why not?
Probably my favourite ballad of the last ten years, so it gets my vote. As for Bugs, never a huge fan at the time, but why not? Hope it\'s not just me, but I miss not having the variety of the old pb sets.
And definitely yes, to more Jordan growlin\'!!
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Eppy 1 / Question Mark & The Mind fit the bill :)
Well I wouldn\'t want to miss Question Mark, but then again I have an old flame for that one.
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We can get in our bathroom breaks.
That is about it.
Bugs is a catchy little stupid song but it did serve a purpose back in the day. Bathroom and Smoke break.
Now, I feel anytime I go to the bathroom, I am going to miss something.
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Eppy 1 / Question Mark & The Mind fit the bill :)
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I know that as pretty fervent fans, we tend not to enjoy or appreciate the slower acoustically-based tunes. But I bet that if they threw in one or two tunes like these, newbs would be more able to "digest" the Breakfast. I usually would say screw \'em, if they don\'t appreciate straight up jamming out for an hour on a song...But if the change up interested more fans, that\'s only a good thing. We can get in our bathroom breaks.
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God no. 2005 was like the year of "let\'s totally kill the energy of an otherwise epic set by sticking [-]Bugs[/-] vera st in it".
fixed.
either/or ;)
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God no. 2005 was like the year of "let\'s totally kill the energy of an otherwise epic set by sticking [-]Bugs[/-] vera st in it".
fixed.
Now I\'d love if Vera came back:duck:
Why duck when you have a great idea?
The leap that the band has taken vocally makes this idea better than you probably realized when posting it.
Its a great change of pace tune and the band would definitely kill on this one. Why not?
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God no. 2005 was like the year of "let\'s totally kill the energy of an otherwise epic set by sticking [-]Bugs[/-] vera st in it".
fixed.
Now I\'d love if Vera came back:duck:
Why duck when you have a great idea?
The leap that the band has taken vocally makes this idea better than you probably realized when posting it.
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God no. 2005 was like the year of "let\'s totally kill the energy of an otherwise epic set by sticking [-]Bugs[/-] vera st in it".
fixed.
Now I\'d love if Vera came back:duck:
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It is a summer song in my opinion, so right now I have to vote for NO. Ask me again when summer comes along. The Sequoia on vocals and keys is pretty sweet. Right now I\'d preffer a Living Daylights bustout . kicked them out,kicked them out, KICKED THEM OUT.
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hugs for Bugs
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4 words - AB SO **** LUTELY
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Bugs owns.
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God no. 2005 was like the year of "let\'s totally kill the energy of an otherwise epic set by sticking [-]Bugs[/-] vera st in it".
fixed.
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i love bugs with jordo growlin. groovy and fun tune and its like 3 minutes long chill haters
THIS.
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bugs and dig can eat a d
the cluelessness=PEEPED
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bugs and dig can eat a d
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i love bugs with jordo growlin. groovy and fun tune and its like 3 minutes long chill haters
gabo=the voice of reason.
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i love bugs with jordo growlin. groovy and fun tune and its like 3 minutes long chill haters
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u guys know dick about the sequoia brah.
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God no. 2005 was like the year of "let\'s totally kill the energy of an otherwise epic set by sticking Bugs in it".
Most anticlimactic encore ever was some 2005 show I believe @ Iron Horse with a Bugs encore.
How about bring back Dig instead if you like the short+sweet sorta funky stuff. Way better song imo.
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they need to fix the ending and bring it back.
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Yes!!!!.....whineberg.
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I\'d love to hear lots of tunes that were shelved before I came around, but honestly, having GBFBITS back in the rotation has certainly satisfied me for now. Bugs is cool by me!
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used to love the big old f.u. to the crowd of the gsot drums intro>bugs
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What\'s up with Bugs today? Strange.
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It seems some people love it... and some people straight up hate it.
At this point the song is a major bust-out factor... but is it worth it?
Cast your vote here!