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Breakfast Babble => Score! => Topic started by: mvallo on September 22, 2009, 10:12:59 am
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Wow! Great performance and recording. Thanks to all of you.
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this really is a great sounding recording. knew the barn could provide some good acoustics. thanks crew!
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thank you dangle doo. see you soon brah !!
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listening to this now. Just wanted to thank matt, fitz and everyone else who helps document this stuff. makes me really happy. love u all
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listening now. sounds good.
heh phaddy rant is funny
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full of vitamins T, H, & C
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Marijuana is a fruit. Tell everyone.
how many servings of fruit are recommended in a day? two to four? eat up!
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this show sounds great, thanks all!
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thanks guys.. what a great time. the late night antics was great..missed teddy jumpin in the lake, but thats what makes him teddy. sluggin Chartreuse with the trio after their set was pretty intense. the trio was something else on saturday night.. andrew barr from slip on drums was incredible.. and Dave from Ween is not only a great dude, but played an awesome set eventhough he had food poisoning earlier. weird beards...sorry i had to work the entrance for some of your set but i got a ride up to pop in for some of it and was glad you guys got to come join the fun. side note: Benevento went and got someone to come in to the house to tune the piano that was used by John Lennon during his \'lost weekend\' at the farm, and then brought the keys up to the barn to play (and it was tuned a half step down) for their set. threw in a few beatles teases throughout. thanks everyone for commin, and will get better and better each year..especially if we avoid the weekend of cold nights and other fests in area.
doc, thanks for the hookup this weekend, it was such an awesome event, especially considering it was the first year and the first big event put on by these guys! the beards rocked hard and met tons of good folk. the robot enjoyed himself as well. the spot for this fest is so beautiful and perfect for these types of fests (although i imagine if it got real big the outdoor stage would have to become the main stage), and we can\'t wait to come back!
i had no idea of the robot\'s gender until now.
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Marijuana is a fruit. Tell everyone.
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Sweet show. Great sound on the recording. Thanks to those who supplied! I love the playful banter throughout the whole show. Sounds like it was a damn good time out there.
Marijuana is a fruit. Tell everyone.
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thanks guys.. what a great time. the late night antics was great..missed teddy jumpin in the lake, but thats what makes him teddy. sluggin Chartreuse with the trio after their set was pretty intense. the trio was something else on saturday night.. andrew barr from slip on drums was incredible.. and Dave from Ween is not only a great dude, but played an awesome set eventhough he had food poisoning earlier. weird beards...sorry i had to work the entrance for some of your set but i got a ride up to pop in for some of it and was glad you guys got to come join the fun. side note: Benevento went and got someone to come in to the house to tune the piano that was used by John Lennon during his \'lost weekend\' at the farm, and then brought the keys up to the barn to play (and it was tuned a half step down) for their set. threw in a few beatles teases throughout. thanks everyone for commin, and will get better and better each year..especially if we avoid the weekend of cold nights and other fests in area.
doc, thanks for the hookup this weekend, it was such an awesome event, especially considering it was the first year and the first big event put on by these guys! the beards rocked hard and met tons of good folk. the robot enjoyed himself as well. the spot for this fest is so beautiful and perfect for these types of fests (although i imagine if it got real big the outdoor stage would have to become the main stage), and we can\'t wait to come back!
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Matt, why do you prefer .RAR I don\'t mind it. I gots the botz to convert. just curious cause I don\'t use it myself.
I\'m indifferent about .rar or .zip. they basically do the same thing. some people have winzip and some people don\'t. some people have winrar and some people don\'t. :D
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thank you!!! can\'t wait to rage this at the deli tomorrow!
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Matt, why do you prefer .RAR I don\'t mind it. I gots the botz to convert. just curious cause I don\'t use it myself.
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Can we all do .RAR? No more white flags!
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.RAR ?!! what kind of bullshit is this now???
Just kidding. Thanks everyone :)
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ah much better thanks matt and dave
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Still the wizard.
:that: thanks, dpeck!
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Still the wizard.
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still can\'t download this mofo and am waving the white flag.
Are you hitting Stella Blues on Thursday... I could just bring you a copy on disc if you still can\'t get it. I got it using the sendspace mp3 download link and winzip then threw them in I-tunes and burned some discs.
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So you guys were able to open the .zipx file?
I tried to download "Zipx" http://www.winx-soft.com/index.html
But it gave me some sort of corruption error...
Winzip should uncompress the file. I just upgraded to version 12. and it converted it to a .zipx file. but looks like older versions can\'t uncompress it. sorry guys. probably needed to go in to classic mode or something like that.
Archive is having problems. The contrabution Center has this message for this show:
"Waiting for admin 1
Checked out 0
server readonly -- tasks waiting for harddrive fix"
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still can\'t download this mofo and am waving the white flag.
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Jahruny you\'re the man. I think this is gonna be a tradition for me.. and hopefully more of my friends if it\'s not head to head with Wormtown :P
BTW Vista (work) isn\'t down with .zipx files. Ubuntu is usually able to extract weird kinds of compressed archives out of the box so maybe I\'ll have better luck at home.
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thanks guys.. what a great time. the late night antics was great..missed teddy jumpin in the lake, but thats what makes him teddy. sluggin Chartreuse with the trio after their set was pretty intense. the trio was something else on saturday night.. andrew barr from slip on drums was incredible.. and Dave from Ween is not only a great dude, but played an awesome set eventhough he had food poisoning earlier. weird beards...sorry i had to work the entrance for some of your set but i got a ride up to pop in for some of it and was glad you guys got to come join the fun. side note: Benevento went and got someone to come in to the house to tune the piano that was used by John Lennon during his \'lost weekend\' at the farm, and then brought the keys up to the barn to play (and it was tuned a half step down) for their set. threw in a few beatles teases throughout. thanks everyone for commin, and will get better and better each year..especially if we avoid the weekend of cold nights and other fests in area.
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So you guys were able to open the .zipx file?
I tried to download "Zipx" http://www.winx-soft.com/index.html
But it gave me some sort of corruption error...
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ya i cant get the files with the "x" thing
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What the hell is a ".zipx" file?
If it means .zip Extreme I want in. If it means Apple are just being proprietary bastards ... lol
Next time I upload some **** its gonna be a tar.gz archive with RPM and DEB packages also available. No Linux? Sucks for you :P
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Super!
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I have this up on bt.etree.org, too. http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=528360
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Yeah, thanks Matt, now i can finally hear what I missed! Sounds great!
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oh thank god. i couldn\'t get the archive thing to work. thx matt!!!
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sweet. dessert after escuela.
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SENDSPACE MP3 DOWNLOAD LINK:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/edac0b
Not sure why the audio player is not loading on archive.
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enjoy!!! :)
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Yes, you can get it. The most important thing is being able to hear this music. I\'ll check back later to see if you have any questions.
goin golfin!
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thanks, guys... hopefully i\'ll figure this out. it was so easy before.. and i liked the streaming option... ah well. whatever.
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Sounds Fantastic! Thanx for taping.
The jam in GBFBITS is incredible around the 10:20 mark and on is just so beautiful.
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Yes! Thanks Matt. This brightens my day considerably!
galenas, I think I could explain it to you. Do you happen to use firefox? I installed an app called downthemall! that makes it easy to d/l from the archive. You used to be able to click one button to download a zip file that had the mp3 and lossless files in it, as well as some other stuff. Seems like all the shows that are posted now don\'t have that option(don\'t necessarily mean tB shows). You have to do the files one at a time. Think it has something to do with the servers or something.
thanks again Matt!
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Diana, there are links to each individual FLAC files, or a [large] ZIP archive of all of them (top left). The Live Music Archive will eventually generate MP3s of the files, but they\'re not there yet.
Or you could do a for loop on the files like I did:
$ for f in `cat 0918.txt`; do wget http://ia311027.us.archive.org/2/items/breakfast2009-09-18.matrixAKG483/$f; done
You just have to create a text file with the names of the files in it:
breakfast2009-09-18d1t01.flac
breakfast2009-09-18d1t02.flac
breakfast2009-09-18d1t03.flac
breakfast2009-09-18d1t04.flac
breakfast2009-09-18d1t05.flac
breakfast2009-09-18d1t06.flac
breakfast2009-09-18d2t01.flac
breakfast2009-09-18d2t02.flac
breakfast2009-09-18d2t03.flac
breakfast2009-09-18d2t04.flac
breakfast2009-09-18d2t05.flac
breakfast2009-09-18.txt
Breakfast2009-09-18.flac16.md5
Geeky, but it works.
The other question I was gonna ask is this:
Is anyone going to seed this at bt.etree.org? If not, I will go ahead and do it. OK...?
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sorry, but how do i dl this...?
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The Zoom Hn4 has a ton of features for the price, but is still limited for matrix recording situations. I did figure things out and have a few workarounds.
Here are some of my general observations:
The on board mics are a bit bassy for my taste. I Little post EQ fixes that. the sound quality of the onboad mics are adequate. I would only use them if I did not have time to set up my akg\'s.
I found it awkward to put the recorder on a mic stand, you can\'t monitor and change the recording level or check battery levels from 8 ft high and if you had to make changes, the handling of the unit is going to pick up by the mics. External mics are a must. The wired remote is not much help.
I ran the akg into the XLR input jack. I recommend this b/c, it has phantom power, and it\'s a balanced(noise canceling) line allowing long cable runs if you are running through a stage snake. I would only use the 1/8 mic input if the mics are close and you don;t need phantom power.
The TSR (1/8 input jacks) are not balanced and are instrument level. a +4db board signal will clip. an attenuator is needed if your going this route.
An interesting feature on the zoom is the onboard mic bypass input on the back of the zoom. it\'s a 1/8 stereo jack. It accepts mic level inputs only. I used this input to record the soundboard and had to use a mixer to control the +4db line level to attenuate it an acceptable mic input level. this is not the best solution b/c some sound quantity is lossed. I need to get variable line attenuator.($180) this is the best solution for onstage matrix recordings with the zoom.
Battery / power
the zoom takes 2 AA batteries. I purchased Sony rechargeable batteries. I was able to record 3.5 hours in 4 track mode and phantom power. This is cutting it close, b/c when the batteries get older or are not fully charged it will be cutting it close.
so,
I built a custom power pack using a 12v battery jumper box. I used cigarette DCto DC converter( 12v to 5v adapter) and solder a tip that fit the AC/DC power plug input on the zoom. I was able to record 8 hours and probably more.
The 16 gig SD card can record 8.5 hours of 4 channels @ 44.1khz 24bit. good enough for me!
mp3??
yes , tonight
I think you run into sync issues if you try to combine different sources, but you never know...
Fitzy and I were talking about matrixing with the H4N, the challenge is to get the (onboard) mics up close to the stage while still pulling the feed off the board. Need to "ride the snake" for that one, or get some long cables. Ideally, you should be able to bypass the onboard mics for a second pair of XLR connections, but that would be an expensive experiment.
Sending a balanced board feed through the stage snake could work. The problem is the XLR input on the zoom only accept mic level. the board feed will clip the zoom. It will need attenuators. and might need XLR turnarounds or 1/8 couplers or an used return in the snake. most sound guys won\'t deal with this.
some boards only have an unbalanced RCA outputs. Running a small mixer at the board and running the mixers balanced outputs into the snake to the stage is a solution. but a pain in the ass.
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mp3??
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I think you run into sync issues if you try to combine different sources, but you never know...
Fitzy and I were talking about matrixing with the H4N, the challenge is to get the (onboard) mics up close to the stage while still pulling the feed off the board. Need to "ride the snake" for that one, or get some long cables. Ideally, you should be able to bypass the onboard mics for a second pair of XLR connections, but that would be an expensive experiment.
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EPIIC!!!! thanks!
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It was matrix\'d into the soundboard. And I think he used whatever mics he had instead of the onboard mics.
H4N is the ****. I got mine refurb\'d for like $300. I\'m an **** for missing Sully\'s when it was sorta my duty to tape the show... maybe the 3 shows in 1.5 days was a pipe dream, that and I over-raged like it was 2003 and green tea energy drinks are going out of style.
But I will absolutely be bringing this on tour for many upcoming shows. If 2 or even 3 of us are rocking these things at a show I can only imagine how the recordings would sound! I\'m talkin Live Bootleg merch table albums left and right yo.. or $5-$10 downloads for the highest quality mix... guess what all the under 21 kids would eat this **** up... they are definitely there in spirit! Could use one for soundboard at 48khz and another with 4 mics at 44khz. **** would kill. With 3 of em we could do soundboard + 4 mics are you kiddin me??
I\'ve mostly used this to record living room jams but yeah, holy ****.
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Can\'t wait to listen!!! Thank you Matt!!!!
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Looking forward to this. Hoping to pick up an H4N soon. Price has come down from $350 recently.
Matty, how did you set this up? Did you just use the two built-in mics?
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Nice the first H4N recording.... let\'s see how good this sounds!
edit: Well looks like I probably gotta wait a few hours for archive to generate the mp3.zip. Thanks Matt :)
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yesssssssssss! thank you!
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Awesome. Thanks.
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[LMA] http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2009-09-18.matrixAKG483
SENDSPACE MP3 DOWNLOAD LINK: http://www.sendspace.com/file/68wra1
bt.etree.org: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=528360
The Breakfast
Let it Roll Festival
Ghent, NY
2009-09-18
Disk 1 set 1
01. JAM >
02. Buquebus
03. Great Big Fiery Ball in the Sky
04. Phaddy Boom Baddy
05. Garcian Fishbowl >
06. Metropolis
Disk 2 set 1 cont.
01. Garcian Fishbowl >
02. Sundance
03. Late and The Great >
04. Over exposure
05. Taboo Or Not Taboot
Recording by Matt Vallo
Source: Soundboard Matrix
Source A: FOH Soundboard mix (stereo)
Source B: AKG 483 (DIN) (FOB) 20 ft from stage, center
Recored via Zoom H4N (4 track mode) 44.1khz 24 bit
Zooom H4n USB Digitial Transfer to Hard dirve
Edited and Mastered with Protools 6.4 (44.1kz 16bit) > CD wave > Flac 16
not sure when the streaming window will generate, only flacs for now