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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: oldnewbie on July 06, 2009, 11:32:07 am
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diana\'s a moderator now? what is this world coming to? ;)
watch it now, newbers. i\'ve got mad powers here. :)
Diana I was over at ars after reading your post about helping Tim out and thought you might find this interesting.
Or any musicians for that matter
http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/07/universaltunecore-deal-opens-major-doors-for-indie-artists.ars
Pretty interesting
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diana\'s a moderator now? what is this world coming to? ;)
watch it now, newbers. i\'ve got mad powers here. :)
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diana\'s a moderator now? what is this world coming to? ;)
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.... your statement that Bfam is defunct is just not true man. Maybe a few less of your original friends from 2000-era still raging shows... but Breakfast Family is very much alive and (mostly) well! Just because you don\'t know \'em all by name anymore and their are some new faces starting to become regulars doesn\'t mean they aren\'t as much family as anyone! Just because somebody happens to discover the band later than some of us did.. or they are younger and just starting to embark on this musical journey doesn\'t make them any less Bfam to me. (like I probably never heard of the band until at least 4 years after you I\'d guess... but I rep Bfam with a passion!)
To me being "bfam" means raging as many shows as you can whenever reasonably possible, and generally just being damn passionate about the music. Doesn\'t hurt to know a few of the old schoolers and be able to occasionally part like a rock star as well I suppose... but not a requirement.
agreed. it\'s absolutely imperative that the band gain these new fans. keep spreading the positive energy, tuna!
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whats a gtb show?
A now defunct rock outfit known for playing the music of the red hot chili peppers (as well as some 90\'s rock) and insane stage antics led by Mr. Tim "IM SORRRY!!!" Palmieri...
Did I missed something here?
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What does "handling Tim\'s stuff" mean?
i\'m going to be helping tim pull various things together, such as internet presence, promotions, and various other special projects still to come. pretty psyched about it. should be fun.
good luck with that diana.....Tim could definitely use some assistance in this area.....my only recomendation would be to please get posative stuff regarding tim out of this horribly negative thread...........Jaded Breakfast fans are absolutely no help to the cause......
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What does "handling Tim\'s stuff" mean?
i\'m going to be helping tim pull various things together, such as internet presence, promotions, and various other special projects still to come. pretty psyched about it. should be fun.
That\'s great. I wish you both much success. We all know Tim is one talented dude..
thanks so much. really appreciate it. just started this endeavor but i\'m really excited about the big picture.
Hey congrats! Just got some FB invites, now that\'s social networking.
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Right on, first moderator-ship, and now this... couldn\'t pick a better gal in both cases. Too bad you\'re not handling The Breakfast internets + promotion, no offense to whoever is currently doing this stuff, but I think you\'re desitined for success in whatever endeavors you take on.
perhaps less late-night krunk posts on my part? or maybe more... let\'s put it to a vote!
Freddie I love you in a family/brah kinda way, and I often have trouble disagreeing with your motto "**** people!" (really, at least half the people on this planet really suck!)..... but your statement that Bfam is defunct is just not true man. Maybe a few less of your original friends from 2000-era still raging shows... but Breakfast Family is very much alive and (mostly) well! Just because you don\'t know \'em all by name anymore and their are some new faces starting to become regulars doesn\'t mean they aren\'t as much family as anyone! Just because somebody happens to discover the band later than some of us did.. or they are younger and just starting to embark on this musical journey doesn\'t make them any less Bfam to me. (like I probably never heard of the band until at least 4 years after you I\'d guess... but I rep Bfam with a passion!)
To me being "bfam" means raging as many shows as you can whenever reasonably possible, and generally just being damn passionate about the music. Doesn\'t hurt to know a few of the old schoolers and be able to occasionally part like a rock star as well I suppose... but not a requirement.
Unless they\'re like an undercover narc or something..... not very "family" like in my humble opinion... probably didn\'t need to be said but **** it it\'s late and I\'m hammered and the 1st amendment kicks ass.
Ehhh this thread isn\'t so much of a downer. Besides the original post and the few ppl who agree that Bfam no longer really exists... I think the bigger picture is pretty much obvious to anyone without a negatively predisposed mindset. Whatever may or may not happen to The Breakfast as a band.. there will always be a bond between many of us that is often referred to as "bfam".
For lyfe indeed!
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What does "handling Tim\'s stuff" mean?
i\'m going to be helping tim pull various things together, such as internet presence, promotions, and various other special projects still to come. pretty psyched about it. should be fun.
That\'s great. I wish you both much success. We all know Tim is one talented dude..
thanks so much. really appreciate it. just started this endeavor but i\'m really excited about the big picture.
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What does "handling Tim\'s stuff" mean?
i\'m going to be helping tim pull various things together, such as internet presence, promotions, and various other special projects still to come. pretty psyched about it. should be fun.
That\'s great. I wish you both much success. We all know Tim is one talented dude..
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this thread is a real downer.
you know what\'s more fun? my electronic breakfast thread
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freddie=mybro 4 life.
mine, too!
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zoinks!
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bfam=defunct
What the **** do you know anyway?
Do yourself and everyone else here a favor and just keep to posting illegal downloads.
TIA
TBC AND A BEAUT!
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bfam=defunct
What the **** do you know anyway?
Do yourself and everyone else here a favor and just keep to posting illegal downloads.
TIA
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freddie=mybro 4 life.
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bfam=defunct
only for those who choose to make it so.
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bfam=defunct
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What does "handling Tim\'s stuff" mean?
i\'m going to be helping tim pull various things together, such as internet presence, promotions, and various other special projects still to come. pretty psyched about it. should be fun.
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whats a gtb show?
A now defunct rock outfit known for playing the music of the red hot chili peppers (as well as some 90\'s rock) and insane stage antics led by Mr. Tim "IM SORRRY!!!" Palmieri...
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What does "handling Tim\'s stuff" mean? Sounds kinda erotic.
getting moistened by the PME
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What does "handling Tim\'s stuff" mean? Sounds kinda erotic.
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good time boys.
its a red hot chili peppers tribute that consits of tim, ron, adrian and davepeck.
have yet to be able to see one of these shows (gtb tour!!), but apparently the stage antics are out of control and the music\'s damn fine, too!!
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whats a gtb show?
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PS this thread sucks old man balls.......
leave todd out of this.
:lol: (sorry, todd)
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pretty sure EE3 has been played semi recently. i may just be imagining that, but i thought i saw 1->4 at some point not too long ago.
EE 1-4 was played on 2/16/07, 6/14/08 and 7/27/08
EE 1, 2, 3 & 4 were all played on 8/30/08 with songs in between
EE 1&2 and EE 3&4 were played on 10/15/08 as two sets of two songs with other songs in between
These are the only TB shows to date where all 4 parts were played in the same show...
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pretty sure EE3 has been played semi recently. i may just be imagining that, but i thought i saw 1->4 at some point not too long ago.
you\'re nuts. ee3 has not been but needs to be played soon
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pretty sure EE3 has been played semi recently. i may just be imagining that, but i thought i saw 1->4 at some point not too long ago.
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PS this thread sucks old man balls.......
leave todd out of this.
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Originals not played in \'09. The red songs are those that haven\'t been played in over a year:
A New Beginning, Attraction To Shade Ditty (Shelved), Beer Jubilee, Bugs, Cosmic Spaceway Rhyme (Shelved ?), Dig, Dimension 5 (Shelved ?), Escher\'s Etching Part 3, Fairy, Food For Thought, Fresh Cut, Funk-A, Future Peek, Garcian Fishbowl, Good Things, GBFBITS, Gypsy Girl, HDX, Heather, Infrequently Asked Questions (Shelved), Kote, Language of the Gods, LDZ (Shelved), Living Daylights, Love Lake, The Message (Shelved), No Glove No Love, No Regret, Phaddy Boom Baddy, Prom \'97, Question Mark and the Mind, Reel Time, Surreal Radio, Tricky Ways, Uncle Freddy, Vera Street, The World Needs Us (Shelved), Za
Wow I didn\'t know Attraction to Shade was shelved. Ron tune I guess?
Ones that IMO need to make a swift (or eventual, I\'m patient ;) ) return, in alphabetical order:
Dimension 5, EE Part 3, Good Things, Language of the Gods, Living Daylights, LOVE LAKE!!!, No Glove No Love, No Regret!!!, Phaddy Boom Baddy (was played on NYE and **** raged as well so I wouldn\'t say it\'s totally out of the rotation...), Question Mark and the Mind!!!, Surreal Radio.
PS this thread sucks old man balls.......
shitty topic, but the love among us is starting to shine through :)
you wont see d5 or no regret unless you\'re at a gtb show sorry tuna
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Originals not played in \'09. The red songs are those that haven\'t been played in over a year:
A New Beginning, Attraction To Shade Ditty (Shelved), Beer Jubilee, Bugs, Cosmic Spaceway Rhyme (Shelved ?), Dig, Dimension 5 (Shelved ?), Escher\'s Etching Part 3, Fairy, Food For Thought, Fresh Cut, Funk-A, Future Peek, Garcian Fishbowl, Good Things, GBFBITS, Gypsy Girl, HDX, Heather, Infrequently Asked Questions (Shelved), Kote, Language of the Gods, LDZ (Shelved), Living Daylights, Love Lake, The Message (Shelved), No Glove No Love, No Regret, Phaddy Boom Baddy, Prom \'97, Question Mark and the Mind, Reel Time, Surreal Radio, Tricky Ways, Uncle Freddy, Vera Street, The World Needs Us (Shelved), Za
Wow I didn\'t know Attraction to Shade was shelved. Ron tune I guess?
Ones that IMO need to make a swift (or eventual, I\'m patient ;) ) return, in alphabetical order:
Dimension 5, EE Part 3, Good Things, Language of the Gods, Living Daylights, LOVE LAKE!!!, No Glove No Love, No Regret!!!, Phaddy Boom Baddy (was played on NYE and **** raged as well so I wouldn\'t say it\'s totally out of the rotation...), Question Mark and the Mind!!!, Surreal Radio.
PS this thread sucks old man balls.......
shitty topic, but the love among us is starting to shine through :)
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not sure what else to say in this thread besides, I LOVE THE BREAKFAST ! bing bang boom. i\'ll be there when i can love you band and the BFam you\'ve made my life wicked awesome :)
BRAVO and DITTO!
PS this thread sucks old man balls.......
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I personally would love to hear some new songs. I can\'t muster up the excitement over and over if there isn\'t anything new. :shrug:
i know what you mean. they should at least be playing more from their catalog.
Originals not played in \'09. The red songs are those that haven\'t been played in over a year:
A New Beginning, Attraction To Shade Ditty (Shelved), Beer Jubilee, Bugs, Cosmic Spaceway Rhyme (Shelved ?), Dig, Dimension 5 (Shelved ?), Escher\'s Etching Part 3, Fairy, Food For Thought, Fresh Cut, Funk-A, Future Peek, Garcian Fishbowl, Good Things, GBFBITS, Gypsy Girl, HDX, Heather, Infrequently Asked Questions (Shelved), Kote, Language of the Gods, LDZ (Shelved), Living Daylights, Love Lake, The Message (Shelved), No Glove No Love, No Regret, Phaddy Boom Baddy, Prom \'97, Question Mark and the Mind, Reel Time, Surreal Radio, Tricky Ways, Uncle Freddy, Vera Street, The World Needs Us (Shelved), Za
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when did Galenas become a moderator?
look out! hahaha. i just noticed that myself this morning. since i\'ll be handling tim\'s stuff, we assumed this would be easiest.
oh my **** !! i\'m super screwed now
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when did Galenas become a moderator?
look out! hahaha. i just noticed that myself this morning. since i\'ll be handling tim\'s stuff, we assumed this would be easiest.
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when did Galenas become a moderator?
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clink clank clunk, kid
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not sure what else to say in this thread besides, I LOVE THE BREAKFAST ! bing bang boom. i\'ll be there when i can love you band and the BFam you\'ve made my life wicked awesome :)
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Yes, it is good to be part of a select community who supports their band through thick and thin, so let\'s keep doing it. I see no reason to give up on the boys
:that:
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I personally would love to hear some new songs. I can\'t muster up the excitement over and over if there isn\'t anything new. :shrug:
i know what you mean. they should at least be playing more from their catalog.
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lots of great points made all around. at the end of the day, i think we all should remember that whether the band "makes it" or not -- which of course i hope they do -- we are lucky to have ever had something known as the "bfam." it\'s a phenomenon that not many people in this world get to experience, and i feel lucky to have been a part of it for so long now. there have been good times and bad times. times when i was hitting the pavement flyering my ass off and times when i had completely written the band off and said **** it; times when my face was completely owned and times when i left saying eh; times when i was grooving shoulder to shoulder with you all and times when i was literally one of only a handful of people on the dance floor. i\'m not willing to give up on this band yet, but i\'m also being realistic. i think any band needs to essentially live a life on the road for a while to ever really expand its fan base to a sustainable level, and it doesn\'t seem those are the lives the breakfast are looking to lead at this stage of the game. i don\'t blame them, either. that\'s rough, and they\'re not kids anymore. yet so long as they are making music that i enjoy, i will be supporting the band to my fullest -- and of course be loving every second i get to spend with the wild pack of bfam!
Well put.
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i def agree with that statement^
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And you know what, I cannot recall for the life of me regardless of the circumstances a Breakfast show where I have not thoroughly enjoyed myself. Not one.
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And you know what, I cannot recall for the life of me regardless of the circumstances a Breakfast show where I have not thoroughly enjoyed myself. Not one.
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Breakfast could never perform a new original again for the next 10 years and I don\'t think it would really bother me much. These guys already have tons of epic material and each time they play a song it\'s like a new song anyway :P
- I disagree with your first statement
- I agree with your second statement
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Breakfast could never perform a new original again for the next 10 years and I don\'t think it would really bother me much. These guys already have tons of epic material and each time they play a song it\'s like a new song anyway :P
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Galenas, very well said. I too am very grateful for the bfam, through the ebbs and flows in the band\'s career. It\'s hard to ignore that this current time is a more low-key one, probably due to a combination of many factors already brought up by davepeck and others. I personally would love to hear some new songs. I can\'t muster up the excitement over and over if there isn\'t anything new. :shrug: But I don\'t take them for granted, and I know I\'ve been very lucky to have enjoyed many phenomenal shows.
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Yes, it is good to be part of a select community who supports their band through thick and thin, so let\'s keep doing it. I see no reason to give up on the boys
:that:
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lots of great points made all around. at the end of the day, i think we all should remember that whether the band "makes it" or not -- which of course i hope they do -- we are lucky to have ever had something known as the "bfam." it\'s a phenomenon that not many people in this world get to experience, and i feel lucky to have been a part of it for so long now. there have been good times and bad times. times when i was hitting the pavement flyering my ass off and times when i had completely written the band off and said **** it; times when my face was completely owned and times when i left saying eh; times when i was grooving shoulder to shoulder with you all and times when i was literally one of only a handful of people on the dance floor. i\'m not willing to give up on this band yet, but i\'m also being realistic. i think any band needs to essentially live a life on the road for a while to ever really expand its fan base to a sustainable level, and it doesn\'t seem those are the lives the breakfast are looking to lead at this stage of the game. i don\'t blame them, either. that\'s rough, and they\'re not kids anymore. yet so long as they are making music that i enjoy, i will be supporting the band to my fullest -- and of course be loving every second i get to spend with the wild pack of bfam!
As eloquent as ever!! :)
I may not have ever met any bfam face to face, but I feel like I know many here. Yes, it is good to be part of a select community who supports their band through thick and thin, so let\'s keep doing it. I see no reason to give up on the boys as some seem to have. Watched the Crash Mansion DVD on the weekend and it still gave me the same feeling as when back in early 2000, I first heard Eppy 1. I love this band and will continue to do all I can to support them.
Sure, there are songs I\'d love to hear live again - the setlist rotation is becoming a little limited, but that\'s only what we think as the **** followers of the band; the average punter will not recognise that he\'s just heard the 8th Tunage this month - he will just leave knowing he\'s just experienced something special and hopefully bring back friends the next time.
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they are back at the westcott first or second weekend of classes thats good.
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Well I was speechless but... they should gear up now to hit the colleges when school\'s in, I don\'t know why they stopped doing that. Great potential for new fans... always has been, always will be. Long-time fans seem to be opting to stay home and chill as they are getting older so ya gotta bring in the new blood... let their parents pay the bills! Aren\'t there plenty of colleges here in the Northeast to plunder for fans. They should definitely try to play The Waterhole #3 in Saranac Lake during Winter Carnival (3rd weekend in february... actually the whole week before but the 3rd is the parade, party weekend) streets are packed with people all drinkin\' and havin\' fun! No chance it wouldn\'t be packed! Besides it\'s the oldest winter carnival in the eastern United States! Just a thought. Nothing more. I know, God forbid I suggest anything the band should do...
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bfam 4 lyfe.
what else can I say.
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aw shucks! (and thanks, man!)
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Diana proves her awesomeness once again.
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..."..., ... ... ...! ... ... ... & ... ...; ... ...? ... ... : ... ... ... ... ... ..., ... (... ... ...) ... ... ...."... That\'s all I have to say about that!
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lots of great points made all around. at the end of the day, i think we all should remember that whether the band "makes it" or not -- which of course i hope they do -- we are lucky to have ever had something known as the "bfam." it\'s a phenomenon that not many people in this world get to experience, and i feel lucky to have been a part of it for so long now. there have been good times and bad times. times when i was hitting the pavement flyering my ass off and times when i had completely written the band off and said **** it; times when my face was completely owned and times when i left saying eh; times when i was grooving shoulder to shoulder with you all and times when i was literally one of only a handful of people on the dance floor. i\'m not willing to give up on this band yet, but i\'m also being realistic. i think any band needs to essentially live a life on the road for a while to ever really expand its fan base to a sustainable level, and it doesn\'t seem those are the lives the breakfast are looking to lead at this stage of the game. i don\'t blame them, either. that\'s rough, and they\'re not kids anymore. yet so long as they are making music that i enjoy, i will be supporting the band to my fullest -- and of course be loving every second i get to spend with the wild pack of bfam!
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I totally get this.
Thanks.
I knew you weren\'t the sheep type.
i\'m the shepherd.
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i dunno, i just see a lot more of a what have you done for me lately kinda attitude from most the old regulars. there was a time when we didn\'t give a **** that the band didn\'t have the best business model off the stage. now its just easy to use that as a copout excuse. the band could easily be no more, half the time i think most people on here wouldn\'t care either way.
i could\'ve gone to toad\'s. but its the fourth of july, and i\'m not about to drive to hours to a show after an afternoon of drinking. plus there was absolutely 0 enthusiasm on this board for the show. why the **** am i gonna drive 2+ hours when everyone w/in 15 minutes doesn\'t give a ****.
its easy to talk **** on a message board, especially when you run that message board, but i doubt 99% of people on here would have the sack to try to hold onto their dream of being in a rock band after 10 tumultuous years of touring and general obscurity.
Yeah it is ez to talk **** on a message board.
You know this very well. As a matter of fact I bold typed a sentence which typifies the attitude you mention in your 1st sentence.
Why does it **** matter in the least to you planning on going to a show if anyone within 15 minutes of the venue doesn\'t give a **** about said show?
That\'s a **** copout if I have ever heard one.
I get you were drunk and did not want to drive that\'s understandable and commendable but not going because no one cares is a **** poor excuse.
i guess you\'re right. i shouldn\'t let anyone else sway what i want to do or where i want to go. just the facts, i saw them last week on the boston boat cruise, and until then i had no thoughts of going to toad\'s. after that show i was all about it. then i came to dot info, and saw a thread buried on the board with a roll call of a half a dozen people at the most at that point. this is only 1 week before the gig. now i could\'ve gone. sacrificed my 4th of july day to spend it sober/in the car by myself for 2 hours just to go to a show that was an absolute crapshoot if anyone would show up or not. or just suck it up, kick the local scene and save money on the 4th of july instead of spending 50 dollars in gas and about the same in drinks. do i wish i would\'ve gone, yes. do i regret not going given what i knew in advance? no.
I totally get this.
Thanks.
I knew you weren\'t the sheep type.
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we\'re still around we just pick and choose our battles.
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Oh and let me know when to change my user title because it tells me the B\'fam is still around.
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i dunno, i just see a lot more of a what have you done for me lately kinda attitude from most the old regulars. there was a time when we didn\'t give a **** that the band didn\'t have the best business model off the stage. now its just easy to use that as a copout excuse. the band could easily be no more, half the time i think most people on here wouldn\'t care either way.
i could\'ve gone to toad\'s. but its the fourth of july, and i\'m not about to drive to hours to a show after an afternoon of drinking. plus there was absolutely 0 enthusiasm on this board for the show. why the **** am i gonna drive 2+ hours when everyone w/in 15 minutes doesn\'t give a ****.
its easy to talk **** on a message board, especially when you run that message board, but i doubt 99% of people on here would have the sack to try to hold onto their dream of being in a rock band after 10 tumultuous years of touring and general obscurity.
Yeah it is ez to talk **** on a message board.
You know this very well. As a matter of fact I bold typed a sentence which typifies the attitude you mention in your 1st sentence.
Why does it **** matter in the least to you planning on going to a show if anyone within 15 minutes of the venue doesn\'t give a **** about said show?
That\'s a **** copout if I have ever heard one.
I get you were drunk and did not want to drive that\'s understandable and commendable but not going because no one cares is a **** poor excuse.
i guess you\'re right. i shouldn\'t let anyone else sway what i want to do or where i want to go. just the facts, i saw them last week on the boston boat cruise, and until then i had no thoughts of going to toad\'s. after that show i was all about it. then i came to dot info, and saw a thread buried on the board with a roll call of a half a dozen people at the most at that point. this is only 1 week before the gig. now i could\'ve gone. sacrificed my 4th of july day to spend it sober/in the car by myself for 2 hours just to go to a show that was an absolute crapshoot if anyone would show up or not. or just suck it up, kick the local scene and save money on the 4th of july instead of spending 50 dollars in gas and about the same in drinks. do i wish i would\'ve gone, yes. do i regret not going given what i knew in advance? no.
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i dunno, i just see a lot more of a what have you done for me lately kinda attitude from most the old regulars. there was a time when we didn\'t give a **** that the band didn\'t have the best business model off the stage. now its just easy to use that as a copout excuse. the band could easily be no more, half the time i think most people on here wouldn\'t care either way.
i could\'ve gone to toad\'s. but its the fourth of july, and i\'m not about to drive to hours to a show after an afternoon of drinking. plus there was absolutely 0 enthusiasm on this board for the show. why the **** am i gonna drive 2+ hours when everyone w/in 15 minutes doesn\'t give a ****.
its easy to talk **** on a message board, especially when you run that message board, but i doubt 99% of people on here would have the sack to try to hold onto their dream of being in a rock band after 10 tumultuous years of touring and general obscurity.
Yeah it is ez to talk **** on a message board.
You know this very well. As a matter of fact I bold typed a sentence which typifies the attitude you mention in your 1st sentence.
Why does it **** matter in the least to you planning on going to a show if anyone within 15 minutes of the venue doesn\'t give a **** about said show?
That\'s a **** copout if I have ever heard one.
I get you were drunk and did not want to drive that\'s understandable and commendable but not going because no one cares is a **** poor excuse.
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Actually, there\'s a handfull of songs not play in \'09 that I\'d love to hear: A New Beginning, Fairy, Garcian Fishbowl, Heather, Love Lake, Question Mark and the Mind...
True.
Isn\'t this about the supposed demise of "Bfam" though?
Pretty sure the party bus to Fenway > Harper\'s proves we are ALIVE and well.
I\'ve introduced dozens of younger kids to the band from around here over the last year. I\'d say at least 50% of these kids are *really really* into The Breakfast now. You won\'t see them at all these 21+ shows, but the point is that gears are being set in motion for a new generation of fans.
Keep on playin\' music guys. We really do adore it.
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as much as i hate to say it,i threw in the towel on this whole thing after save spears jumped ship.
because i consider the guys close friends,u dont see me on here bashing them or generally making the situation worse that they already know it is..that wouldnt be cool at all.
however,i think most of us turned a page in our lives where we grew up a little and honestly,times are tough right now.as much as id love to see the band make it,what really does that even mean???
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Interesting points have been made.
From what I\'ve been told, this thing called \'Facebook\' has really taken off as a place for people to communicate online. Not really sure who administers the bands\' Face page, but as of today, this is the current line-up:
Members:
Tim Palmieri - Guitar - Lead Vocals
Ron Spears - Bass - Vocals
Matt Oestreicher - Keyboards - Vocals
Adrian Tramontano - Drums - Vocals
A little housekeeping is certainly in order!
From what I can see, getting \'events\' (or shows) posted thru Facebook seems fairly easy to do, quite inexpensive (free, except for someone\'s time) and rather effective (especially once your \'Friends\' list gets built up).
I certainly know that this isn\'t the be-all/end-all solution to the aforementioned issues, but, for what it\'s worth, all Facebook events get e-mailed out to everyone. We get the info whether we\'re looking for it or not. And as I\'m sure we all know, Facebook is HUGE with the college kids - a target market that IMO is absolutely essential!!!
.info is awesome, but it doesn\'t come to us - we have to go to it (which many of the existing fans do - the issue here is pulling in new fans)
Facebook, Twitter, etc - EMBRACE THE TECHNOLOGY - it can\'t hurt!
you\'re probably using the facebook link that was created by management that isn\'t updated. you can find a link to the real breakfast facebook at the top left corner here where it says "menu". i administer that, and dates are added and invites sent out when they get sent to me.
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Interesting points have been made.
From what I\'ve been told, this thing called \'Facebook\' has really taken off as a place for people to communicate online. Not really sure who administers the bands\' Face page, but as of today, this is the current line-up:
Members:
Tim Palmieri - Guitar - Lead Vocals
Ron Spears - Bass - Vocals
Matt Oestreicher - Keyboards - Vocals
Adrian Tramontano - Drums - Vocals
A little housekeeping is certainly in order!
From what I can see, getting \'events\' (or shows) posted thru Facebook seems fairly easy to do, quite inexpensive (free, except for someone\'s time) and rather effective (especially once your \'Friends\' list gets built up).
I certainly know that this isn\'t the be-all/end-all solution to the aforementioned issues, but, for what it\'s worth, all Facebook events get e-mailed out to everyone. We get the info whether we\'re looking for it or not. And as I\'m sure we all know, Facebook is HUGE with the college kids - a target market that IMO is absolutely essential!!!
.info is awesome, but it doesn\'t come to us - we have to go to it (which many of the existing fans do - the issue here is pulling in new fans)
Facebook, Twitter, etc - EMBRACE THE TECHNOLOGY - it can\'t hurt!
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you\'re only as far from 20 as you choose to be....i\'m just sayin\'
Damn Skippy
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you\'re only as far from 20 as you choose to be....i\'m just sayin\'
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This sounds like a bfam Thanksgiving Dinner where Uncle Leo got too drunk and started yelling at Grandma. Seriously, all I care about is that these guys continue to play. Yes I\'d like to see new songs. Yes, I\'d love to see more people show up. Hell, I\'d be happy if they decided to be a 3 chord pop band.
I just want to see these guys be able to make a living through music because believe it or not, I care about them. I think it would be tragic if a group of such talented guys can\'t be appreciated for the skilled individuals that they are regardless of any other bullshit.
I just want to be able to go to some rock and roll shows, see some great friends (whoever can manage to come out), and have as good of a time as I am willing to make for myself and anyone else who is so inclined. And you know what, I cannot recall for the life of me regardless of the circumstances a Breakfast show where I have not thoroughly enjoyed myself. Not one.
People have priorities in their life, we aren\'t all 20 years old anymore. Everyone has the bullshit in their life that they have to get through and it\'s their choice to do whatever they want. Nobody has to justify to anybody why they\'ve made any choices that they have in terms of going to show, not going to show, or whatever. If you go, I hope to see you there if the stars align correctly, if not maybe we\'ll see each other next time. I just hope that there are plenty next times.
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^ i was calling for a fairy in nyc but no dice.
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fairy has always been one of my fave\'s... i\'m glad that i can announce this to people who won\'t automatically assume i\'m switching teams....
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i listened to a great fairy today and was thinking about how great doughboy was on saturday night with jordan singing it again.....i would like to see that one come back for certain.
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Actually, there\'s a handfull of songs not play in \'09 that I\'d love to hear: A New Beginning, Fairy, Garcian Fishbowl, Heather, Love Lake, Question Mark and the Mind...
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Who cares if half their songs aren\'t getting much if any play right now.
At least we\'re hearing the songs we mostly all want to hear anyway. Just don\'t put Puppetry on the shelf :D
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i dunno, i just see a lot more of a what have you done for me lately kinda attitude from most the old regulars. there was a time when we didn\'t give a **** that the band didn\'t have the best business model off the stage. now its just easy to use that as a copout excuse. the band could easily be no more, half the time i think most people on here wouldn\'t care either way.
and to this, i personally don\'t need to use the business model as an excuse for anything. to me, it\'s more about the facts that a) the band no longer plays more than half of their catalog of originals, b) they haven\'t played a two-set show in nearly two months, and c) "the breakfast", as we know them today, have never written a song together.
if that\'s not losing interest, i don\'t know what is.
Some 2009 stats...
- TB Played 21 shows in 2009 (12: 1 set shows - 57% / 9: 2 set shows - 43%)
- Out of 84 original songs, 56% have been played in 2009; 37 of those originals have not
- There have been a total of 158 original songs played in 2009 (1 song played 9 times: Tunage / 5 songs played 7 times / 1 song played 6 times / 5 songs played 5 times / 8 songs played 4 times / 9 songs played 3 times / 6 songs played 2 times / 12 songs played once)
- Only 24 covers songs have been played all year, but there have been more SCA, Jam, Guitar Solos, Bass Solos, Drum Solos, Keyboard Solos, Bass and Drum Solos
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for the first time since being on thebreakfast.info, i have nothing to say here.
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i dunno, i just see a lot more of a what have you done for me lately kinda attitude from most the old regulars. there was a time when we didn\'t give a **** that the band didn\'t have the best business model off the stage. now its just easy to use that as a copout excuse. the band could easily be no more, half the time i think most people on here wouldn\'t care either way.
and to this, i personally don\'t need to use the business model as an excuse for anything. to me, it\'s more about the facts that a) the band no longer plays more than half of their catalog of originals, b) they haven\'t played a two-set show in nearly two months, and c) "the breakfast", as we know them today, have never written a song together.
if that\'s not losing interest, i don\'t know what is.
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i\'ve been thinking hard about hosting a bfam party....but i\'m concerned that it would be a dooze. very sad.
Do it!!!
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i receive emails "regularly" from booking (highland media) and band members with dates to post here on .info and on facebook.
last time i received an email with breakfast dates: April 21st
last time i received an email with side project dates: May 18th
that\'s effort?
wow....are you telling me I have more dates than you out of all people? All I\'m on is the mailing list....and I don\'t see those dates listed on .info.
They need a working website that is consistantly updated, and advertising....pay for a banner on jambands.com/jambase/etc....those must help bands let people know they are actually playing.
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I\'m with Igzy on this one all the way. Much respect where it\'s due.
Music is a higher vibration than cash in hand. I\'ll be ragin\' front row in my wheelchair even if T Palms is playin guitar hooked up to an iron lung on a stretcher.
Watch me.
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TB Shows Listed on MySpace and not.info
Jul 8 2009 9:00P Deja Vu Appleton, Wisconsin
Jul 25 2009 9:00P Cabinfest Mainstage Andes, New York
Aug 1 2009 10:00P Sully’s Pub Hartford, Connecticut
Aug 7 2009 8:30P Mill Street Brews Southbridge, Massachusetts
Aug 14 2009 8:00P Camp Barefoot 3 @ Cove Campground Gore, Virginia
Aug 15 2009 12:30A Camp Barefoot 3 @ Cove Campground Gore, Virginia
Sep 11 2009 1:00A Backwoods Pondfest @ Twin Ponds Campground Peru, New York
Sep 12 2009 8:00P The Westcott Syracuse, New York
Sep 18 2009 8:00P Sunnyview Farm Ghent, New York
Sep 25 2009 10:30P Daniel Street Milford, Connecticut
Oct 29 2009 10:00P Iron Horse Music Hall Northampton, Massachusetts
Oct 31 2009 8:30P Crash Mansion - Fonghoulish Freakout Tour!! New York City, New York
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they choose to be artists, not computer programmers. clearly if they wanted more money/stability they\'d have given up on music(a la ron). they could\'ve cut and run for a bigger payoff(a la matt oestericher), but they decided to remain true to their music and their fans. there\'s a lot to be said for that. do i think tim palmeiri could\'ve got paid off if he dumped the breakfast and freewheeled it to a band looking for a topnotch guitarist? i\'m sure of it. do i commend him for not doing it? hell yeah. there\'s having a job you hate, there\'s having a career you\'re trained for, and there\'s doing what you love. i\'d take doing what i love if it kept me warm at night instead of keeping my pockets lined.
The way Matt went about making his decision may have been wrong, but he\'s part of a band that\'s opening up for actual legitimate band. This idea that to make a change because it means more money makes you a sellout, well that\'s just plain horse ****. All bands want to make music that makes them happy, but in the end, they have to do what they need to do to get paid...
All of the guys that have played in this band are super talented: Ron chose to become a teach (ultimately, there\'s nothing more noble to me than teaching today\'s youth). Both Chris and Jordan would be great studio musicians. I think that Adrian and Tim are equally talent (w/ a slight edge to Adj IMHO), but I personally feel that this type of music is Tim\'s vehicle. Without Adrian playing equally crazy, I don\'t know if Tim\'s 1,000,000+ notes per show would go over as well as it does...
But what it all boils down to is that these guys are all "great" musicians, but there is a business aspect to what they are doing. If you\'re out to have a good time, then you don\'t need the business side of it. If this is your career and you and family depend on it to pay the bills, then you need to make sure that the business side of it is running as efficiently as the music side of it...
i wouldn\'t call matt a sell out either. thats such an overused term these days anyways. he wasn\'t a perfect fit for the breakfast anyways, sure he filled the void, and did well in his time here, but it was never his bag. he was a session musician who was here for a session and now he\'s gone.
i receive emails "regularly" from booking (highland media) and band members with dates to post here on .info and on facebook.
last time i received an email with breakfast dates: April 21st
last time i received an email with side project dates: May 18th
that\'s effort?
is that why the appleton date never got added here? i mean, its not like the breakfast have many future shows scheduled anyways, i don\'t know what percentage of what they have now have been out since 4/21. but thats highland media\'s issue and the band should take note of that for future reference. as far as side project dates, its nice to have you post them a month in advance, but i don\'t know how that whole area gets booked and when. i did notice a lot of other posters and tim adding dates that have been missing, so at least its not a complete loss. they really aren\'t the kinda shows you need to plan in advance for. b ut i see your issue.
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i receive emails "regularly" from booking (highland media) and band members with dates to post here on .info and on facebook.
last time i received an email with breakfast dates: April 21st
last time i received an email with side project dates: May 18th
that\'s effort?
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they choose to be artists, not computer programmers. clearly if they wanted more money/stability they\'d have given up on music(a la ron). they could\'ve cut and run for a bigger payoff(a la matt oestericher), but they decided to remain true to their music and their fans. there\'s a lot to be said for that. do i think tim palmeiri could\'ve got paid off if he dumped the breakfast and freewheeled it to a band looking for a topnotch guitarist? i\'m sure of it. do i commend him for not doing it? hell yeah. there\'s having a job you hate, there\'s having a career you\'re trained for, and there\'s doing what you love. i\'d take doing what i love if it kept me warm at night instead of keeping my pockets lined.
The way Matt went about making his decision may have been wrong, but he\'s part of a band that\'s opening up for actual legitimate band. This idea that to make a change because it means more money makes you a sellout, well that\'s just plain horse ****. All bands want to make music that makes them happy, but in the end, they have to do what they need to do to get paid...
All of the guys that have played in this band are super talented: Ron chose to become a teach (ultimately, there\'s nothing more noble to me than teaching today\'s youth). Both Chris and Jordan would be great studio musicians. I think that Adrian and Tim are equally talent (w/ a slight edge to Adj IMHO), but I personally feel that this type of music is Tim\'s vehicle. Without Adrian playing equally crazy, I don\'t know if Tim\'s 1,000,000+ notes per show would go over as well as it does...
But what it all boils down to is that these guys are all "great" musicians, but there is a business aspect to what they are doing. If you\'re out to have a good time, then you don\'t need the business side of it. If this is your career and you and family depend on it to pay the bills, then you need to make sure that the business side of it is running as efficiently as the music side of it...
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doing what you love doesn\'t have to mean being poor. i personally love what i do, and it was my choice. go figure.
its cool, i\'m poor and i hate what i do. also my choice. ;)
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its easy to talk **** on a message board, especially when you run that message board, but i doubt 99% of people on here would have the sack to try to hold onto their dream of being in a rock band after 10 tumultuous years of touring and general obscurity.
not talking **** at all, just speaking the truth, which most people here like to ignore and run away from.
you can use cute words like "dream" all you want. i prefer the word "career", which is much more applicable here. these guys chose to be musicians. it\'s their job. i know that in my career, i sure as hell wouldn\'t stay at a company 10 years if i hadn\'t moved up since i started. but would i switch careers? hell no. i\'d probably just go work at a place where the money was better, and i had more opportunity to advance my career.
they choose to be artists, not computer programmers. clearly if they wanted more money/stability they\'d have given up on music(a la ron). they could\'ve cut and run for a bigger payoff(a la matt oestericher), but they decided to remain true to their music and their fans. there\'s a lot to be said for that. do i think tim palmeiri could\'ve got paid off if he dumped the breakfast and freewheeled it to a band looking for a topnotch guitarist? i\'m sure of it. do i commend him for not doing it? hell yeah. there\'s having a job you hate, there\'s having a career you\'re trained for, and there\'s doing what you love. i\'d take doing what i love if it kept me warm at night instead of keeping my pockets lined.
doing what you love doesn\'t have to mean being poor. i personally love what i do, and it was my choice. go figure.
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not talking **** at all, just speaking the truth, which most people here like to ignore and run away from.
you can use cute words like "dream" all you want. i prefer the word "career", which is much more applicable here. these guys chose to be musicians. it\'s their job. i know that in my career, i sure as hell wouldn\'t stay at a company 10 years if i hadn\'t moved up since i started. but would i switch careers? hell no. i\'d probably just go work at a place where the money was better, and i had more opportunity to advance my career.[/QUOTE]
well put dave.. you can only get so far in good ol gun wavin\'...
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It sounds to me like people have given up on the bfam, and the music. Sad, really.
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its easy to talk **** on a message board, especially when you run that message board, but i doubt 99% of people on here would have the sack to try to hold onto their dream of being in a rock band after 10 tumultuous years of touring and general obscurity.
not talking **** at all, just speaking the truth, which most people here like to ignore and run away from.
you can use cute words like "dream" all you want. i prefer the word "career", which is much more applicable here. these guys chose to be musicians. it\'s their job. i know that in my career, i sure as hell wouldn\'t stay at a company 10 years if i hadn\'t moved up since i started. but would i switch careers? hell no. i\'d probably just go work at a place where the money was better, and i had more opportunity to advance my career.
they choose to be artists, not computer programmers. clearly if they wanted more money/stability they\'d have given up on music(a la ron). they could\'ve cut and run for a bigger payoff(a la matt oestericher), but they decided to remain true to their music and their fans. there\'s a lot to be said for that. do i think tim palmeiri could\'ve got paid off if he dumped the breakfast and freewheeled it to a band looking for a topnotch guitarist? i\'m sure of it. do i commend him for not doing it? hell yeah. there\'s having a job you hate, there\'s having a career you\'re trained for, and there\'s doing what you love. i\'d take doing what i love if it kept me warm at night instead of keeping my pockets lined.
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its easy to talk **** on a message board, especially when you run that message board, but i doubt 99% of people on here would have the sack to try to hold onto their dream of being in a rock band after 10 tumultuous years of touring and general obscurity.
not talking **** at all, just speaking the truth, which most people here like to ignore and run away from.
you can use cute words like "dream" all you want. i prefer the word "career", which is much more applicable here. these guys chose to be musicians. it\'s their job. i know that in my career, i sure as hell wouldn\'t stay at a company 10 years if i hadn\'t moved up since i started. but would i switch careers? hell no. i\'d probably just go work at a place where the money was better, and i had more opportunity to advance my career.
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It\'s easy sometimes when you just coast along
But like it or not something always seems to go wrong
Sometimes people build you up just so they can knock you down
Sometimes they will have you there \'cause they need someone around
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its easy to talk **** on a message board, especially when you run that message board, but i doubt 99% of people on here would have the sack to try to hold onto their dream of being in a rock band after 10 tumultuous years of touring and general obscurity.
fuckin\' a
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By the way, "Bfam" doesn\'t only apply to A) People from around New Haven, B) People like Yoda who still post here but never go to shows, and C) Breakfast.info regulars.
Maybe has more to do with rampant negativity / bitching / moaning / "I\'m too old for this" attitude of a good segment of O.G. Breakfast fam.
Make way for the young blood and keep ragin up here. That\'s all.
Personal attacks aside (I see the band when I can and that equates to when they play North Jersey)...
- The fans from around the New Haven area are mostly the people that grew up with the original line up and are in their late 20\'s/early 30\'s and other obligations are taking priority.
- In the beginning, the fanbase was primarily college students. College students graduate and most of the time go back to where they came from.
- Fans have other tastes in music and sometime choose to see other bands.
I think that most of the O.G. as you call it, would love to see a resurgance of young blood, but that\'s not happening either. I also think that you\'re misunderstanding what Dave is saying; the lazy description has nothing to do with what the band does on the stage, they work as hard as any live act. I think the reference is to the lack of dedicated management and really good PR person. You also have to realize that the band might be burned out a little; they\'ve been doing this constantly for 10+ years. It will take it\'s toll on you.
These 4 guys are very very talented, but I personally don\'t know what the answer is....
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i dunno, i just see a lot more of a what have you done for me lately kinda attitude from most the old regulars. there was a time when we didn\'t give a **** that the band didn\'t have the best business model off the stage. now its just easy to use that as a copout excuse. the band could easily be no more, half the time i think most people on here wouldn\'t care either way.
i could\'ve gone to toad\'s. but its the fourth of july, and i\'m not about to drive to hours to a show after an afternoon of drinking. plus there was absolutely 0 enthusiasm on this board for the show. why the **** am i gonna drive 2+ hours when everyone w/in 15 minutes doesn\'t give a ****.
its easy to talk **** on a message board, especially when you run that message board, but i doubt 99% of people on here would have the sack to try to hold onto their dream of being in a rock band after 10 tumultuous years of touring and general obscurity.
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wait, the breakfast should move? what? ;)
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I dunno brahs I just don\'t think "lack of effort" applies to The Breakfast.
really? because you, yourself mentioned that if they relocated, their fanbase would grow.
do you think this is the first time in 10.5 years that someone came up with the idea that moving out of the musical black hole that is connecticut would be a good thing for the band\'s career??
it\'s not a secret. but relocation is something that takes a lot of balls and effort. but the breakfast decided to not leave their comfort zone and base themselves out of CT.
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gonna play devils advocate for a moment
a. you make your own good luck with ser effort
b. there was once a manager who, despite a lot of undeserved criticism, put out a supreme effort for very little return.
c. when everything you read says contact a band member for whatever......lack of promotion is clearly a lack of effort.
very simply....you cain\'t wait for/expect somebody else to do your work. this isn\'t how i make MY living.
i\'ve been thinking hard about hosting a bfam party....but i\'m concerned that it would be a dooze. very sad.
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I dunno brahs I just don\'t think "lack of effort" applies to The Breakfast.
Lack of luck, lack of management, lack of promotion maybe. But seriously these guys deserve more respect than simplified statements like that imply.
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this thread got ugly pretty quick.
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i think the effort of the fanbase correlates directly to that of the band.
well....that answers another question that i\'ve been wondering about.
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i think the effort of the fanbase correlates directly to that of the band.
Right. I\'ve never seen a band play their instruments so lazily on stage as The Breakfast...
yep, because there\'s nothing more to being in a band than playing instruments. that\'s all you have to do to make it.
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It\'s well known by now that CT fails to represent their home turf on a regular basis.
I would have been there but Astral Projections had a pretty fun festie/party gig that day and later on that night.
By the way, "Bfam" doesn\'t only apply to A) People from around New Haven, B) People like Yoda who still post here but never go to shows, and C) Breakfast.info regulars.
Pretty sure up in recent Northampton shows and up at Strange Creek there were some raging times. Half of these kids are barely 18, totally obsessed with The Breakfast, but use the internet sparingly and probably aren\'t even aware of this little hangout.
I missed Toads due to my own thing but I assume turnout was kinda shitty per usual. Breakfast should seriously consider relocating an hour and a half north... plenty of fresh blood up here and *yes* they are BFam ... whether you know them by some internet alias or not.
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i think the effort of the fanbase correlates directly to that of the band.
Right. I\'ve never seen a band play their instruments so lazily on stage as The Breakfast...
Maybe has more to do with rampant negativity / bitching / moaning / "I\'m too old for this" attitude of a good segment of O.G. Breakfast fam.
Make way for the young blood and keep ragin up here. That\'s all.
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i think the effort of the fanbase correlates directly to that of the band.
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I have a long-distance relationship w/ TB... Not loving the NJ hiatus...
VT hiatus for me
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the amount of interest showed in this subject just about says it all. i\'m not sure why any festival or venue would even bother anymore.
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I have a long-distance relationship w/ TB... Not loving the NJ hiatus...
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bfam love forever from me, confirmed.
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does it even exist anymore? that was my prevailing thought at toads.