Post by: GLuft3 on May 24, 2009, 09:51:34 pm
Post by: tonyajo on May 18, 2009, 01:42:44 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb;230767
glad i found out about this before now....
:(
NO ****! Would have been nice to know. I\'ve only been asking about this for months!! NO, I\'m NOT bitter!!
Thanks for doing this though Matt.
Post by: mvallo on May 17, 2009, 11:08:02 pm
We couldn\'t announce it earlier because:
1. Didn\'t know if it was going to work. I knew toads had wifi, but didn\'t know the bandwidth or the stability of the network. I did a speed test when I got to toads and throttled back 1/2 of the total upload speed. Some isp have "speed boost" and have short bursts of upload/download capability and then get slower. I wanted to make sure the connection was not going to drop out. It sounds like it went pretty smooth.
2. If local people knew this was going happen in advance, they may decide not to go. I\'m sure the band will want a certain number of presale tickets sold before they allow another webcast at toads. The numbers at toads could have been better.
I have to thank hare from Brooklyn for doing the macpods webcast at Eric\'s piano store and Eric for inviting him. I couldn\'t believe how easy it was when I saw him do it. I had to try it! I wish I had known about this site years earlier, I could have fed kens camera into broad cast. Better late than never.
also, The high quality encoder is really cool and worked out nice. I was able to adjust the the audio and video bit rates and choose stereo 44.1khz audio. This is a new feature and big step up from the standard encoder.
Quote from: ChrisF;230823
Quote from: SkyePrizm;230813i would help with a taping of a show (video wise), but no one has ever asked me. and i dont want to step on the toes of people who do it currently. studio just got in tons of new equipment this week thanks to state grants (thanks taxpayers), including 6 brand new mini HD cameras. If we ever wanted to do an elaborate multi shot of a show, we can. just someone needs to approach me.
that would be cool. we should do it when we have 5 or 6 people plus ken willing to run cameras all night.
6 HD cameras, that would be a nice project to work on. we\'ll talk.
Post by: leith on May 17, 2009, 09:29:18 pm
Quote from: FrankZappa;230808
matt was shown how to do this at the macpods show last week and decided to try it out.QuoteNo one could have figured something out in collaboration with you guys to get this done before?you\'ve obviously never seen us try to get people to run camera and help out taping a show. :lol:
I just think of the day I met you and what I ended up doing for the rest of that set.
Seems if I can watch a camera when I was on vacation and in no way ready to be that responsible on the spur of the moment, someone out there could plan to help out which seems to be happening in this thread.
Sorry for nagging on this but it just sucks that little things like this that can do so much good for the band\'s visibility have been ignored until now and people wonder why the band is in such dire straits and in need of a severe organizational overhaul.
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 17, 2009, 09:19:46 pm
Quote from: ChrisF;230823
Quote from: SkyePrizm;230813i would help with a taping of a show (video wise), but no one has ever asked me. and i dont want to step on the toes of people who do it currently. studio just got in tons of new equipment this week thanks to state grants (thanks taxpayers), including 6 brand new mini hd cameras. If we ever wanted to do an elaborate multi shot of a show, we can. just someone needs to approach me.
that would be cool. we should do it when we have 5 or 6 people plus ken willing to run cameras all night.
i say we should try for the next show after harper\'s ferry.
i just checked the calendar at that would be the boat cruise. I wonder if the boat allows cameras on board? and i wonder if the whole show would be filmed on a slant? ;)
Post by: FrankZappa on May 17, 2009, 08:18:43 pm
Post by: ChrisF on May 17, 2009, 07:48:51 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;230813
i would help with a taping of a show (video wise), but no one has ever asked me. and i dont want to step on the toes of people who do it currently. studio just got in tons of new equipment this week thanks to state grants (thanks taxpayers), including 6 brand new mini hd cameras. If we ever wanted to do an elaborate multi shot of a show, we can. just someone needs to approach me.
that would be cool. we should do it when we have 5 or 6 people plus ken willing to run cameras all night.
Post by: Gfunk on May 17, 2009, 07:36:36 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;230813
Quote from: FrankZappa;230808matt was shown how to do this at the macpods show last week and decided to try it out.QuoteNo one could have figured something out in collaboration with you guys to get this done before?you\'ve obviously never seen us try to get people to run camera and help out taping a show. :lol:
i would help with a taping of a show (video wise), but no one has ever asked me. and i dont want to step on the toes of people who do it currently. studio just got in tons of new equipment this week thanks to state grants (thanks taxpayers), including 6 brand new mini hd cameras. If we ever wanted to do an elaborate multi shot of a show, we can. just someone needs to approach me.
**** yeah, do it up. harpers ferry! ( i might be to **** up to help at that one though :wah:)
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 17, 2009, 06:39:43 pm
Quote from: FrankZappa;230808
matt was shown how to do this at the macpods show last week and decided to try it out.QuoteNo one could have figured something out in collaboration with you guys to get this done before?you\'ve obviously never seen us try to get people to run camera and help out taping a show. :lol:
i would help with a taping of a show (video wise), but no one has ever asked me. and i dont want to step on the toes of people who do it currently. studio just got in tons of new equipment this week thanks to state grants (thanks taxpayers), including 6 brand new mini hd cameras. If we ever wanted to do an elaborate multi shot of a show, we can. just someone needs to approach me.
Post by: Gfunk on May 17, 2009, 05:59:09 pm
Quote from: FrankZappa;230808
matt was shown how to do this at the macpods show last week and decided to try it out.QuoteNo one could have figured something out in collaboration with you guys to get this done before?you\'ve obviously never seen us try to get people to run camera and help out taping a show. :lol:
I help any time Fitzy asks me.
Post by: ChrisF on May 17, 2009, 05:12:48 pm
Quote from: FrankZappa;230808
matt was shown how to do this at the macpods show last week and decided to try it out.QuoteNo one could have figured something out in collaboration with you guys to get this done before?you\'ve obviously never seen us try to get people to run camera and help out taping a show. :lol:
^^^ exactly.
the only reason it happened last night was because of the macpodz gig last week. i dont think anyone besides the current tapers are motivated to do anything. months ago when people were complaining about upstate shows not being taped i posted a link to the alesis protrack -a $200 add on for ipod that transforms it into a suitable deck for recording live music in 16bit WAV.
it has built in microphones for steath recording and XLR inputs for external mics (extra with $100 for the mics/t-bar included). So for $300 and the ipod u already have u would have everything u need for audience recording with mics on a stand when taping is allowed, or use it as a steath recorder for northampton venues.
there were several people who said they wanted to get into taping before i posted it, but no one was motivated to actually do anything and breakfast shows are still going untaped. no one wants to spend any money at all, no one wants to do any work, especially when it requires getting there early and maybe drinking less.
Post by: FrankZappa on May 17, 2009, 04:48:46 pm
Quote
No one could have figured something out in collaboration with you guys to get this done before?you\'ve obviously never seen us try to get people to run camera and help out taping a show. :lol:
Post by: DocEllis70 on May 17, 2009, 04:15:48 pm
Post by: leith on May 17, 2009, 03:39:59 pm
Quote from: FrankZappa;230802
ah, I was just busting your balls.
anyway I don\'t know when matt got his, but you need a decent laptop to do this which is something neither i or fitzy has. better late than never man. :thumbsup:
Oh no I totally agree with that.
However there\'s just one person in all the fans of this band that has a laptop?
No one could have figured something out in collaboration with you guys to get this done before?
No one thought of doing these before last night?
Oh all the times we have had live updates via the web no one could have tried to hook up Ken\'s camera or something?
Only one motivated person out of the bunch and out of the blue huh?
Amazing.
Post by: FrankZappa on May 17, 2009, 03:13:25 pm
anyway I don\'t know when matt got his, but you need a decent laptop to do this which is something neither i or fitzy has. better late than never man. :thumbsup:
Post by: leith on May 17, 2009, 02:57:35 pm
Quote from: FrankZappa;230797
Quote from: leith;230766http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2402&highlight=webcast
http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=9967&highlight=webcast
Thanks again Matt.
I still stand by it would be expensive if we did it all ourselves! The reason this didn\'t cost much was all matt had to do was create an account (free) and then PAY for the higher level option user so that he could have more bandwidth and longer broadcast time. this still cost something, and matt paid for it.
A site like this didn\'t exist back then, and if we were to design all of the broadcasting coding and equipment/buy it ourselves it would have cost a lot more than this did. It\'s no different than hd; ken is now taping hd and peck ahs a photography camera that records hd. years ago we could have pooled our money and bought 1 hd camera, or bought several sd ones individually and done multicamera shoots.the older the technology gets, the cheaper it becomes and eventually we can afford it.
sorry if we don\'t make enough money to suffice your needs though, I\'ll talk to my boss and see what i can do about that. ;) :lol:
No Paul if you bothered to actually check those threads I put in I actually gave info on sites JUST like the one that Matt used last night.
Yes the thread from \'04 these sites were not around the 2nd thread from \'07 I gave a specific site Ustream.tv which is the same as blogtv and which Leafers have been using to watch TLG webcasts the same fairly cheap way for the past year or so.
My point is this could have been done earlier from someone that was as motivated as Matt.
I am very appreciative that Matt took the time/effort and spent the $ to do this and to show how easy it actually is to do.
I can only hope that others follow suit.
Post by: FrankZappa on May 17, 2009, 02:35:24 pm
Quote from: leith;230766
http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2402&highlight=webcast
http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=9967&highlight=webcast
Thanks again Matt.
I still stand by it would be expensive if we did it all ourselves! The reason this didn\'t cost much was all matt had to do was create an account (free) and then PAY for the higher level option user so that he could have more bandwidth and longer broadcast time. this still cost something, and matt paid for it.
A site like this didn\'t exist back then, and if we were to design all of the broadcasting coding and equipment/buy it ourselves it would have cost a lot more than this did. It\'s no different than hd; ken is now taping hd and peck ahs a photography camera that records hd. years ago we could have pooled our money and bought 1 hd camera, or bought several sd ones individually and done multicamera shoots.the older the technology gets, the cheaper it becomes and eventually we can afford it.
sorry if we don\'t make enough money to suffice your needs though, I\'ll talk to my boss and see what i can do about that. ;) :lol:
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 17, 2009, 11:41:28 am
Post by: Yoda on May 17, 2009, 11:20:14 am
Post by: skalnbyc on May 17, 2009, 10:44:59 am
Quote from: leith;230766
Quote from: ChrisF;230765Quote from: alexanderzurflu;230758Got the text from ChrisF - too bad I was at a party and missed it.
i never texted you :confused:
It may have been Paul Al. He\'s the one that sent me a text.
Ahh ok - I saw the 203 area code and assumed Fitz as he\'s usually the one keeping me in the loop.
Thanks Zappa!
Post by: Jim Cobb on May 17, 2009, 05:44:25 am
:(
Post by: leith on May 17, 2009, 05:04:45 am
Quote from: ChrisF;230765
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;230758Got the text from ChrisF - too bad I was at a party and missed it.
i never texted you :confused:
It may have been Paul Al. He\'s the one that sent me a text.
I am glad someone finally decided to do this.
Seems it was alot easier and not as expensive as people were making it out to be when I was asking about this yep AWHILE AGO.
http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2402&highlight=webcast
http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=9967&highlight=webcast
Thanks again Matt.
Post by: ChrisF on May 17, 2009, 04:29:59 am
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;230758
Got the text from ChrisF - too bad I was at a party and missed it.
i never texted you :confused:
Post by: skalnbyc on May 17, 2009, 02:11:58 am
Post by: bdfreetuna on May 17, 2009, 02:09:50 am
Quote from: SkyePrizm;230755
the most viewers is right now at 55 during band introductions...
Mostly robots swarmed in. But yeah maybe 20 or so real people were watching it at times, some from PT who had never seen Breakfast and some fans left out of the loop due to distance.. or at least that many screens.
I\'d definitely put a $10 in my computer for the occasional luxury of seeing a difficult-to-make show. Or $20 honestly the money would be I presume mostly to the band and cost of crew and production. With a little more warning we could have shown a lot of people the band for their first time.
Actually, when it\'s not so late-night post Breakfast show.... I can develop a secure payment gateway for "e tickets". It would, of course, be interesting to run analytics on the statistics to see where certain pockets of the country grow in terms of people logging in to watch live Breakfast.
I found this evening\'s not-be-able-to-go due to no sleep last night after Red Square... well this was totally clutch.
Shootin the **** in the peanut gallery chat room was a blast. Like .info on crack.
But yeah, we all know shows are outta reach for many people. Matt Vallo, you rule man. This is some great technology.
How\'s this for a proposal::::
For future webcasts and BFam / .info poster or otherwise established Breakfast fan pays $20 for the luxury of watching Breakfast from the couch burnin\' chronic strains. New fans.... which would be people can get to come from MySpace, Facebook, PT board kids, other various message boards... well you\'re first shot of psychedelic Breakfast should be free.
And then we\'ve got archived DVDs... so $10 sounds about right. All the ones I ever have KEN gave to me (thanks a lot man) but if push woulda come to shove, I actually would have paid for them, you know?
And, certainly, it brings the community closer together again. It was a beautiful thing, unexpectedly seeing The Breakfast tonight up in the virtual peanut gallery.
You guys just let me know if you need help setting up an online and absurdly secure instant ticket ordering proccess. That\'s kind of my speciality actually. Guess I\'ll swap PMs with mvallo and thatguy tomorrow to see what their plans were. I consider this a very successful first experiment and really makes it great for fans who live too far away.
Post by: skalnbyc on May 17, 2009, 02:07:08 am
Post by: bezerker on May 17, 2009, 01:35:53 am
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 17, 2009, 01:29:28 am
the most viewers is right now at 55 during band introductions...
Post by: bezerker on May 17, 2009, 12:02:47 am
Post by: stublatt on May 17, 2009, 12:02:01 am
Post by: Klout on May 16, 2009, 11:57:31 pm
this honey b is getin grimey!!!
what the list so far?
HB*>Rush?
*unfin
**** i guess i missed a lot what else did they play
Post by: delfunk1 on May 16, 2009, 11:12:11 pm
Post by: bezerker on May 16, 2009, 11:04:11 pm
Post by: melanie on May 16, 2009, 10:09:57 pm
Post by: bezerker on May 16, 2009, 10:08:29 pm
Post by: melanie on May 16, 2009, 10:08:09 pm
kudos, matt v :)
Post by: bdfreetuna on May 16, 2009, 10:06:49 pm
Quote from: bezerker;230739
thank god im not actually there
said so eloquently
The webcast is up and working good now all you wooks should get on there.
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 16, 2009, 09:30:43 pm
Post by: bezerker on May 16, 2009, 09:24:54 pm
Post by: GLuft3 on May 16, 2009, 08:33:19 pm
Post by: bdfreetuna on May 16, 2009, 08:26:17 pm
somehow I\'m still awake but I\'m definitely staying awake now
who\'se got PT covered. I almost never post on that board so I got worse noob status there than here!
sweet a live Breakfast show in my living room... pshaww
.... just told a bunch of heads to tune in + posted a bulletin from my bands myspace....
Post by: mvallo on May 16, 2009, 08:15:44 pm
Quote from: casinokid;230730
eggcelent idea matt
hopefully this can be posted in a phantasy thread?!
that way people can "eat their breakfast cross the nation"
.
do you want to be the guy that posts on phantasy? . I can\'t post when I am streaming.- Just until wait till we\'re are running.
I will do a opening band check in a bit.
Post by: Gfunk on May 16, 2009, 08:06:31 pm
Post by: casinokid on May 16, 2009, 08:03:29 pm
hopefully this can be posted in a phantasy thread?!
that way people can "eat their breakfast cross the nation"
I think I am corny-maybe it\'s the pre-show margarita.
Post by: mvallo on May 16, 2009, 07:52:53 pm
Quote from: bezerker;230725
WHAT ? !!! soooo sick thanks dude
invite/call people that are not going to the show. spread the word.
Post by: leith on May 16, 2009, 07:51:20 pm
I\'ll be checking it out and will post it elsewhere.
Post by: bezerker on May 16, 2009, 07:33:58 pm
Post by: mvallo on May 16, 2009, 07:30:25 pm
Here is the Link:
Log in to join us in the chat:
http://www.blogtv.com/People/mvallo
I am looking forward to this show,
Matt
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