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Title: i hope no one goes to Wesleyan University!
Post by: wildcoyote on May 08, 2009, 09:53:59 am
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Anne Frank kept a journal.

Never read it.  I respect Anne Frank\'s privacy.
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Post by: Spacey on May 08, 2009, 08:58:47 am
Anne Frank kept a journal.
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Post by: kindm's on May 08, 2009, 08:56:46 am
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Why is the media listing a possible anti-semitic motive?  Because there is an actual basis or more simply the school has a decent Jewish population and there is nothing else to do but speculate and make people scared so they will watch more news?

I heard, and again this is the rumor in the news, that he had written things about killing people at the school in his personal journals. Included in those journals were some derogoratory comments/threats regarding Jewish people as well.



Why is it that sociopaths keep journals?

Perhaps as a subconscious cry for help ?

Maybe they really want someone to discover that they are spiraling out of control but they lack the mental capacity to ask for help etc.

But then again the line between genius and mental illness is a thin one.
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Post by: phirehead on May 07, 2009, 03:36:08 pm
No problem. I don\'t see why they even released that about the journals. We don\'t need MORE proof that he\'s crazy-that\'s pretty much a given at this point.
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Post by: skalnbyc on May 07, 2009, 03:15:03 pm
Thanks.  The AP story I read did not provide enough detail.
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Post by: Dweasel Weasel on May 07, 2009, 03:14:21 pm
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Why is the media listing a possible anti-semitic motive?  Because there is an actual basis or more simply the school has a decent Jewish population and there is nothing else to do but speculate and make people scared so they will watch more news?

I heard, and again this is the rumor in the news, that he had written things about killing people at the school in his personal journals. Included in those journals were some derogoratory comments/threats regarding Jewish people as well.



Why is it that sociopaths keep journals?
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Post by: phirehead on May 07, 2009, 02:53:19 pm
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Why is the media listing a possible anti-semitic motive?  Because there is an actual basis or more simply the school has a decent Jewish population and there is nothing else to do but speculate and make people scared so they will watch more news?

I heard, and again this is the rumor in the news, that he had written things about killing people at the school in his personal journals. Included in those journals were some derogoratory comments/threats regarding Jewish people as well.
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Post by: kindm's on May 07, 2009, 02:26:49 pm
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Why is the media listing a possible anti-semitic motive?  Because there is an actual basis or more simply the school has a decent Jewish population and there is nothing else to do but speculate and make people scared so they will watch more news?

From what I just read she originally attended NYU and I guess that is where these 2 people originally met. I guess the girl complained about this guy a year or so ago.

I would think the anti-semetic stuff probably comes from stuff they may have found at his place etc.

My guess is this guy probably has a mental issue. And it has probably gotten progressively worse over the years. He was probably obsessing over this girl and perhaps in his delusions "the jews" slipped in to his paranoia

There are 2 pictures on CNN of him. 1) he looks kind of clean cut. 2) the surveillance video shows a Una-Bomber looking like guy.
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Post by: skalnbyc on May 07, 2009, 02:14:09 pm
Why is the media listing a possible anti-semitic motive?  Because there is an actual basis or more simply the school has a decent Jewish population and there is nothing else to do but speculate and make people scared so they will watch more news?
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Post by: phirehead on May 07, 2009, 02:03:41 pm
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this thread has gotten weird. are people seriously worried over these stories? one **** murder and trespassing? jesus christ, y\'all sound like you\'re in pleasantville. hope you let your kids get at least a little dirty on the playground.

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Uggh.  HORRIBLE.  I went to Wesleyan.. Biz Markie actually played at our Spring Fling.  Middletown wasn\'t the greatest, but I didn\'t realize crime had gotten this bad. :(

THIS bad? :wtf2:

more use to one housewife poisoning another housewife because she is in love with the other housewife\'s husband.

Shootings never happen here.

Fine. I\'ll stop trying to poison that housewife. But I saw you first.
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Post by: Spacey on May 07, 2009, 01:37:02 pm
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this thread has gotten weird. are people seriously worried over these stories? one **** murder and trespassing? jesus christ, y\'all sound like you\'re in pleasantville. hope you let your kids get at least a little dirty on the playground.

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Uggh.  HORRIBLE.  I went to Wesleyan.. Biz Markie actually played at our Spring Fling.  Middletown wasn\'t the greatest, but I didn\'t realize crime had gotten this bad. :(

THIS bad? :wtf2:

more use to one housewife poisoning another housewife because she is in love with the other housewife\'s husband.

Shootings never happen here.
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Post by: davepeck on May 07, 2009, 01:30:42 pm
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It was a wierd surreal scene at Wesleyan.....I had just hit the record button on the first band, they announced who they were, and then never started as security was suddenly all over the place, and that was it..not a musical note, the show was stopped..Michael Ross, the President of Wesleyan, came out on stage after a little confusion and said that there had been a shooting involving a student and asked the partying crowd of a few hundred to please leave the hill and go back to their dorms immediatly so the police could sweep the hill/concert area because the suspect was still at large and possibly on the school property, the shooting happening in the Wesleyan Bookstore .... the crowd did as he said and were gone in a few minutes and the cops and security swept the area...they left me and another taper named Dave alone as we packed up as they swept by ....I knew the sound company guys, ACE music, so we hung with them under the canopy at the sbd, had a beer and waited to see what was going to happen, if the show was going to go on.....so we waited, at about 3:00PM the sounds guys were told to pack it up, show cancelled...they bands got paid, but not a note was played...it was the strangest thing that has ever happened to me at a show...I felt really band for the students whose senior big blow out weekend was nixed, but I didn\'t realize until I got home that the girl actually died..all wery sad indeed....
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Post by: ulee on May 07, 2009, 12:56:21 pm
yeah i guess not.
my brain has been immersed in microbiology for too long.  but a shooting in a bookstore in the middle of the day is pretty brutal/scary.
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Post by: bdfreetuna on May 07, 2009, 12:01:43 pm
Quality reality check. A crime committed does not a bad area make.
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Post by: Gordo on May 07, 2009, 12:01:17 pm
this thread has gotten weird. are people seriously worried over these stories? one **** murder and trespassing? jesus christ, y\'all sound like you\'re in pleasantville. hope you let your kids get at least a little dirty on the playground.

Quote from: ulee;229583
Uggh.  HORRIBLE.  I went to Wesleyan.. Biz Markie actually played at our Spring Fling.  Middletown wasn\'t the greatest, but I didn\'t realize crime had gotten this bad. :(

THIS bad? :wtf2:
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Post by: bdfreetuna on May 07, 2009, 11:53:36 am
I was watching some cops show and they sure were invading a lot of homes!

:duck:
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 07, 2009, 11:49:15 am
its awful about the student.

but i\'m more freaked out about the home invasion in Woodbridge.
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Post by: princesscaspian on May 07, 2009, 11:38:04 am
we should start a poll to see how scared everyone is over this shooting
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Post by: Dweasel Weasel on May 07, 2009, 09:20:29 am
Agreed.  And the guy looked totally creepy.  

(I realize that it is totally irrelevant, but did you see her picture?  She was quite beautiful.)
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Post by: phirehead on May 07, 2009, 09:02:50 am
You just never know who you are dealing with. This could be any number of things. Maybe they were friends and she didn\'t reciprocate his feelings for something more? Maybe they DID date but he creeped her out, because to be honest, he looks a little creepy. Who knows.

People are psycho unfortunately. But I wonder if it\'s always been like this and now we just hear about it more. It\'s scary any way you look at it.
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Post by: Dweasel Weasel on May 07, 2009, 08:38:45 am
Guess you should probably consider yourself lucky, eh?
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Post by: Spacey on May 07, 2009, 08:17:44 am
OMG!

People can be shot anywhere, anytime!

OH NO!
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Post by: Dweasel Weasel on May 07, 2009, 08:04:54 am
You\'re right - it\'s not really that bad a place.  But this thing seems to have had nothing to do with the neighborhood.  The girl was a target for this guy and if she worked in West Hartford it might have happened there.

Jilted men should just boil bunnies and stay away from guns.

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Post by: kindm's on May 06, 2009, 05:59:04 pm
Middletown has a bad area ?

I used to drive through it all the time, still go that way when going to my moms. Never once felt any kind of uneasiness about the place

It definitely wasn\'t anything like the North end of Hartford.

And if someone went in and simply shot a woman and didn\'t rob the place or anything then I think the relationship gone wrong is probably the correct assumption.
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Post by: ulee on May 06, 2009, 05:17:22 pm
Uggh.  HORRIBLE.  I went to Wesleyan.. Biz Markie actually played at our Spring Fling.  Middletown wasn\'t the greatest, but I didn\'t realize crime had gotten this bad. :(
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Post by: Vassillios on May 06, 2009, 04:46:04 pm
On a positive note, Wesleyan won the lacrosse NESCAC title last Sunday. yaaayyyy.....
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Post by: davepeck on May 06, 2009, 04:35:06 pm
i know a few tapers that were headed there for that spring fling today too..
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Post by: Yoda on May 06, 2009, 04:32:02 pm
I\'m guessing that Dweasal is correct that it was a relationship gone bad... Their violent crime numbers are pretty low:

2001-2006
Murders - 5 (0.83 avg.)
Forcible **** - 14 (2.3 avg.)
Robbery - 139 (23.2 avg.)
Aggravated Assault - 168 (28 avg.)

That may seem like a lot, but the town in I live in who population is 32,000 more, the violent crimes are nearly 4 times as much...

That being said, it shouldn\'t happen anywhere..
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Post by: NickNels on May 06, 2009, 04:11:43 pm
THe area surrounding Wesleyan is pretty shitty.  No surprise here.
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 06, 2009, 04:04:15 pm
My brother worked at that bookstore for three years... scary.
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Post by: Dweasel Weasel on May 06, 2009, 03:52:49 pm
Yeah - but it doesn\'t sound like a robbery.  My guess is that there\'s a relationship gone bad somewhere in the story; that\'s always good for a little stalking and murder.  
Oy - imagine being a parent paying $40k plus a year for tuition, and then hearing about that....
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Post by: bdfreetuna on May 06, 2009, 03:44:38 pm
Violent crime and economic conditions = direct correlation.

Blame Bush :lol:  (but, really)
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Post by: Dweasel Weasel on May 06, 2009, 03:41:29 pm
Holy crap.  My lady lives in Middletown...
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Post by: jking on May 06, 2009, 03:38:06 pm
http://www.courant.com/community/news/mr/hcu-middletown-shooting-0506,0,6172233.story

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Student Shot Dead Near Wesleyan; Gunman At Large

The Hartford Courant

2:44 PM EDT, May 6, 2009

MIDDLETOWN

A Wesleyan student was shot and killed in a midday shooting at a popular bookstore near the Wesleyan University campus, police sources said.

A witness said someone entered Broad Street Books, at the intersection of Broad and William Street, approached a woman behind the counter and fired multiple shots around 1 p.m.

Police are still searching for the gunman, whom they describe as a white male with a thin build. They recovered a gun at the scene, said Middletown Police Lt. Margaret Liseo. Police have cordoned off the area, she said.

All schools in Middletown were locked down as a precaution, Liseo said. A statement from Wesleyan University recommended that students and staff should remain indoors and remain there until further notice.

Police and medical personnel have temporarily closed nearby streets. Officers appeared briefly on the roof of Broad Street Books. Armed officers in fatigues are in the area, and two officers followed a police dog as it ran up William Street, apparently in pursuit of the suspect. Police said the gunman was a white male with a thin build.

The university also canceled the annual "Spring Fling" outdoor party on campus. Hundreds of students had gathered on campus for the event that started at noon today but were ordered to go indoors after the shooting.

Copyright ? 2009, The Hartford Courant


i miss the days when, if you had a problem with someone, you just beat the **** out of them.... :(