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General Discussions => Tribal Funk Affliction => Topic started by: Wolfman on April 19, 2009, 06:59:51 pm
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And Yankee Stadium...my god...it\'s the stadium\'s first year. The first year of a new stadium is always a sellout in any city because it\'s equal parts ballgame and tourist attraction. Cleveland of all places pulled off a 5.5 year sellout streak when they opened Jacobs Field. So how does New York play to a half-empty ballpark every night? It just looks awful.
$2,000+ Legend\'s Field Tickets
$900 behind home plate
$350 between the bases (These tixs were $18 when I was a kid)
I\'m a Yankee fan and outside of getting tickets from a vendor or relative, I can only afford bleacher seats...
Can u imagine paying that kind of $$$ for a reg season game. HOLY CRAP!!!
I mean there are 96 home games. The people sitting htere should have their heads examined. I don\'t care how much $$$ you have NO reg. season baseball game is worth a semester of community college.
Uh last time I counted the season was 162 games with half (81) being at home.
Still your point is pretty solid.
I thought it was 182 oh well as you can see i am only a passing baseball fan. I like going to the games it is a nice day out hopefully in the sun. But it moves to slow for me. that and I sucked at it as a kid.
i also see you\'re a passing fan of 2nd grade math
Wow you got me.
I must have been stunned by the ticket price.
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And Yankee Stadium...my god...it\'s the stadium\'s first year. The first year of a new stadium is always a sellout in any city because it\'s equal parts ballgame and tourist attraction. Cleveland of all places pulled off a 5.5 year sellout streak when they opened Jacobs Field. So how does New York play to a half-empty ballpark every night? It just looks awful.
$2,000+ Legend\'s Field Tickets
$900 behind home plate
$350 between the bases (These tixs were $18 when I was a kid)
I\'m a Yankee fan and outside of getting tickets from a vendor or relative, I can only afford bleacher seats...
Can u imagine paying that kind of $$$ for a reg season game. HOLY CRAP!!!
I mean there are 96 home games. The people sitting htere should have their heads examined. I don\'t care how much $$$ you have NO reg. season baseball game is worth a semester of community college.
Uh last time I counted the season was 162 games with half (81) being at home.
Still your point is pretty solid.
I thought it was 182 oh well as you can see i am only a passing baseball fan. I like going to the games it is a nice day out hopefully in the sun. But it moves to slow for me. that and I sucked at it as a kid.
i also see you\'re a passing fan of 2nd grade math
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And Yankee Stadium...my god...it\'s the stadium\'s first year. The first year of a new stadium is always a sellout in any city because it\'s equal parts ballgame and tourist attraction. Cleveland of all places pulled off a 5.5 year sellout streak when they opened Jacobs Field. So how does New York play to a half-empty ballpark every night? It just looks awful.
$2,000+ Legend\'s Field Tickets
$900 behind home plate
$350 between the bases (These tixs were $18 when I was a kid)
I\'m a Yankee fan and outside of getting tickets from a vendor or relative, I can only afford bleacher seats...
Can u imagine paying that kind of $$$ for a reg season game. HOLY CRAP!!!
I mean there are 96 home games. The people sitting htere should have their heads examined. I don\'t care how much $$$ you have NO reg. season baseball game is worth a semester of community college.
Uh last time I counted the season was 162 games with half (81) being at home.
Still your point is pretty solid.
I thought it was 182 oh well as you can see i am only a passing baseball fan. I like going to the games it is a nice day out hopefully in the sun. But it moves to slow for me. that and I sucked at it as a kid.
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And Yankee Stadium...my god...it\'s the stadium\'s first year. The first year of a new stadium is always a sellout in any city because it\'s equal parts ballgame and tourist attraction. Cleveland of all places pulled off a 5.5 year sellout streak when they opened Jacobs Field. So how does New York play to a half-empty ballpark every night? It just looks awful.
$2,000+ Legend\'s Field Tickets
$900 behind home plate
$350 between the bases (These tixs were $18 when I was a kid)
I\'m a Yankee fan and outside of getting tickets from a vendor or relative, I can only afford bleacher seats...
Can u imagine paying that kind of $$$ for a reg season game. HOLY CRAP!!!
I mean there are 96 home games. The people sitting htere should have their heads examined. I don\'t care how much $$$ you have NO reg. season baseball game is worth a semester of community college.
Uh last time I counted the season was 162 games with half (81) being at home.
Still your point is pretty solid.
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And Yankee Stadium...my god...it\'s the stadium\'s first year. The first year of a new stadium is always a sellout in any city because it\'s equal parts ballgame and tourist attraction. Cleveland of all places pulled off a 5.5 year sellout streak when they opened Jacobs Field. So how does New York play to a half-empty ballpark every night? It just looks awful.
$2,000+ Legend\'s Field Tickets
$900 behind home plate
$350 between the bases (These tixs were $18 when I was a kid)
I\'m a Yankee fan and outside of getting tickets from a vendor or relative, I can only afford bleacher seats...
Can u imagine paying that kind of $$$ for a reg season game. HOLY CRAP!!!
I mean there are 96 home games. The people sitting htere should have their heads examined. I don\'t care how much $$$ you have NO reg. season baseball game is worth a semester of community college.
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And Yankee Stadium...my god...it\'s the stadium\'s first year. The first year of a new stadium is always a sellout in any city because it\'s equal parts ballgame and tourist attraction. Cleveland of all places pulled off a 5.5 year sellout streak when they opened Jacobs Field. So how does New York play to a half-empty ballpark every night? It just looks awful.
$2,000+ Legend\'s Field Tickets
$900 behind home plate
$350 between the bases (These tixs were $18 when I was a kid)
I\'m a Yankee fan and outside of getting tickets from a vendor or relative, I can only afford bleacher seats...
Glad to see those empty seats- what a frickin\' ripoff.
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And Yankee Stadium...my god...it\'s the stadium\'s first year. The first year of a new stadium is always a sellout in any city because it\'s equal parts ballgame and tourist attraction. Cleveland of all places pulled off a 5.5 year sellout streak when they opened Jacobs Field. So how does New York play to a half-empty ballpark every night? It just looks awful.
$2,000+ Legend\'s Field Tickets
$900 behind home plate
$350 between the bases (These tixs were $18 when I was a kid)
I\'m a Yankee fan and outside of getting tickets from a vendor or relative, I can only afford bleacher seats...
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No thread jack at all my man, sports ticket prices are certainly part of the conversation. I\'ve been over this before, but I don\'t think Red Sox games are a good value either. Anything in front of the overhang is out of my price range outright. The upper grandstands sections 10-30 are good seats too, but at $50 I don\'t think they\'re worth it for an average game. (Not to mention that they\'re all but impossible to get at face value anyhow.) That\'s just me though, most people think they\'re fine. In fact, a lot of people I know are happy to pay over face to go to the game they want. Me, instead of 2 or 3 regular season games, I\'ll save the $200 I would have spent on those and use it for a game 7. But that\'s just me.
And Yankee Stadium...my god...it\'s the stadium\'s first year. The first year of a new stadium is always a sellout in any city because it\'s equal parts ballgame and tourist attraction. Cleveland of all places pulled off a 5.5 year sellout streak when they opened Jacobs Field. So how does New York play to a half-empty ballpark every night? It just looks awful.
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they stick the diehard fans in the **** nosebleed section so they can put the corporate elite in the front rows. and now, at an ever increasing rate, the diehard fan is turning into a casual fan...they should be able to score great tickets and not have to pay out the nose for them...in any other industry, you\'d be out on your ass for treating your clientbase so disrespectfully. you\'d never make it.
It WILL change because people will stop paying.
sounds like every major sport franchise from the last 10 years. they seem to be doing pretty well (considering the economy). i\'m not too optimistic.
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It\'s amazing to me watching games @ the new Yankee stadium, all the field level seats are empty. There are some people in the bleachers but man jacking those ticket prices does not appear to be working for them. $1.5 BILLION stadium.
apologies for the minor thread jack......
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I\'ll be seeing Springsteen next month for $98 and a ticket in section 101...
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i\'ll see the breakfast (ever heard of them?) tonight for $10 in nyc and may or may not have the chance to have a drink with them afterwards. and phish for $50 anywhere is a great deal in my opinion
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Well, if Phish or the Dead ever do make it to these shores, I hope they are not charging those prices. GREEDY is not the word I\'d use.
I saw Stackridge (anyone heard of them?) this week for $15 and got the chance to chat to them afterwards over a drink. And they are an eight piece band. Next month I will see the Strawbs in the same venue for the same price. In August, I intend to go to a festival here:
http://www.new-dawn-events.co.uk/woodstock/ (http://www.new-dawn-events.co.uk/woodstock/)
for $175 for the weekend including camping. You guys paying the silly figures I am reading here for Phish and the Dead must be earning $$$$s!!
$175 for Jethro Tull, Nazareth, half a dozen tribute bands and 2 dozen bands doesn\'t seem worth the money to me...
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they stick the diehard fans in the **** nosebleed section so they can put the corporate elite in the front rows. and now, at an ever increasing rate, the diehard fan is turning into a casual fan...they should be able to score great tickets and not have to pay out the nose for them...in any other industry, you\'d be out on your ass for treating your clientbase so disrespectfully. you\'d never make it.
It WILL change because people will stop paying.
sounds like every major sport franchise from the last 10 years. they seem to be doing pretty well (considering the economy). i\'m not too optimistic.
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Well, if Phish or the Dead ever do make it to these shores, I hope they are not charging those prices. GREEDY is not the word I\'d use.
I saw Stackridge (anyone heard of them?) this week for $15 and got the chance to chat to them afterwards over a drink. And they are an eight piece band. Next month I will see the Strawbs in the same venue for the same price. In August, I intend to go to a festival here:
http://www.new-dawn-events.co.uk/woodstock/ (http://www.new-dawn-events.co.uk/woodstock/)
for $175 for the weekend including camping. You guys paying the silly figures I am reading here for Phish and the Dead must be earning $$$$s!!
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Talked to my buddy last night and Woosta was meh. He said there were a couple high points, but overall he wasn\'t impressed. He told me at several points during the show all he could think of was "well, at least I have a couple Phish shows coming up".
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I can say for certain though, that, believe it or not, the one league with nothing but real fans in the seats is the NFL. Especially in cold weather cities where you have to be diehard to even show up, and even moreso in New England and New York where the stadium is nowhere near the city.
the only insight i get into the mind of a patriot fan is bill simmons. and while the nature of the sport does benefit the diehards, simmons has written a couple times about how the new stadium keeps the "real" fans far enough away so that their yelling won\'t be heard on the field. so no, it\'s not wine and cheese like the mlb and nba, but it has priced out the average joe. will the business be sustainable? almost certainly. but it\'s not the best way to build fan loyalty like there used to be
"Phish is such a better investment...2 Phish shows for the same price as one Dead show and Phish is immeasurably better right now."
Well you\'re right Seth. It is immeasurable because it\'s purely opinion.
totally agree. i love phish and i enjoy recordings of the grateful dead. after hearing those phish hampton shows, to say that "Phish is immeasurably better" than anything right now is a real stretch.
As for me my free Shoreline Dead ticket fell through so I called a few friends and voila\' I have a lawn ticket for $45. Can I buy tickets to 2 Phish shows for $45?
on the west coast? probably
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"Phish is such a better investment...2 Phish shows for the same price as one Dead show and Phish is immeasurably better right now."
Well you\'re right Seth. It is immeasurable because it\'s purely opinion.
If you were crazy enough to pay the full price for The Dead yeah I can see maybe where you were trying to come from.
As for me my free Shoreline Dead ticket fell through so I called a few friends and voila\' I have a lawn ticket for $45. Can I buy tickets to 2 Phish shows for $45?
From the shows I have heard The Dead are kicking ass and get me more excited than what I heard from Phish(which was at times glorious and others average.)
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i think the price for stanley clarke and victor wooten is dead on correct. $35 for two of the best players in the world is a cheap price, considering stanley clarke just charged $35 in march for a solo show at the birchmere. the rest, however, are travesties.
J, you and obsession make a great point. You can definitely make the case that Wooten/Clarke is worth it. I will rethink going to that show. Meanwhile, it is almost impossible to make the case that the other two shows are worth it.
KindM\'s sorry about that show man. We all know the saying "some of the best deals are the ones you don\'t make" but it\'s painful to apply it to shows and say "some of the best show choices you make is not going to a show" Coyote is right, Phish is such a better investment...2 Phish shows for the same price as one Dead show and Phish is immeasurably better right now.
And Jim, yes, this is all about money in shows and especially pro sports. I\'ve been writing about how Fenway is 75% corporate or wine and cheese for 5 years now, and the NBA is worse. I can say for certain though, that, believe it or not, the one league with nothing but real fans in the seats is the NFL. Especially in cold weather cities where you have to be diehard to even show up, and even moreso in New England and New York where the stadium is nowhere near the city. Obviously the boxes are a different story, but throughout the stadium it\'s nothing but season ticket holders and the friends they bring, and other assorted diehards.
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the music industry sucks
lately!
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the music industry sucks
lately!
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A friend of mine went to Albany Dead for free, good thing I guess.
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I honestly was all pumped when they announced the tour. I wasn\'t expecting that much musically but thought it would be a good reason to get out on the road again kind so to speak.
I called a bumch of folks etc when dtaes got announced. I even posted on .info about wanting to do a bunch of shows. THEN I saw the tix price. Even tho I make a pretty good living I was like HELL no am I paying $100 per seat for "The Dead". So I didn\'t end up buying ANY tickets to any shows.
A buddy of mine mail ordered and seeing as Albany was a Friday show and as good a reason as any to hang out with friends I said screw it and went. WHAT A MISTAKE..
I guess I couldn\'t get over the $100 price. Add to that it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get a beer there, NO ONE was partying inside, the show was MELLOW as hell even tho the crowd was obviously ready to boogie, there were many musical flubs. I found Drums to be the most enjoyable aspect of the show (and for me that is saying something). It truly kind of ruined my memories of what was once a spectacle. A circus so to speak and it really made me sad. I couldn\'t help but to look at my phone and wonder how long until the show was gonna be over.
Holy **** dude. Your 1st two paragraphs echoed my thought process exactly.
"Not expecting much musically but it will fun to do again -> $100?! get the **** out of here."
That review confirmed my worst fears, and went a long way to reassure me I did the right thing.
I told lilblondie back in February, that at those prices I think our best bet to put our time and resources toward Phish. Now, I\'m more of GD fan, in that I\'d take a \'72 Dead over a \'94 Phish if given a magic time machine. But in 2009? At least Phish has a chance of reaching peak levels again, like a \'90-91 GD. In which case I\'ll be thrilled.
Ditto all of the above.
I was offered tix to Worcester Sat. night and didn\'t do it because I didn\'t think it would have been worth the drive. And I haven\'t received any calls from my good friend telling me I missed a great show. I absolutely know he would have called to bust my balls if it were the case.
Fuckin\' Cha!
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they stick the diehard fans in the **** nosebleed section so they can put the corporate elite in the front rows. and now, at an ever increasing rate, the diehard fan is turning into a casual fan...they should be able to score great tickets and not have to pay out the nose for them...in any other industry, you\'d be out on your ass for treating your clientbase so disrespectfully. you\'d never make it.
It WILL change because people will stop paying.
sounds like every major sport franchise from the last 10 years. they seem to be doing pretty well (considering the economy). i\'m not too optimistic.
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I honestly was all pumped when they announced the tour. I wasn\'t expecting that much musically but thought it would be a good reason to get out on the road again kind so to speak.
I called a bumch of folks etc when dtaes got announced. I even posted on .info about wanting to do a bunch of shows. THEN I saw the tix price. Even tho I make a pretty good living I was like HELL no am I paying $100 per seat for "The Dead". So I didn\'t end up buying ANY tickets to any shows.
A buddy of mine mail ordered and seeing as Albany was a Friday show and as good a reason as any to hang out with friends I said screw it and went. WHAT A MISTAKE..
I guess I couldn\'t get over the $100 price. Add to that it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get a beer there, NO ONE was partying inside, the show was MELLOW as hell even tho the crowd was obviously ready to boogie, there were many musical flubs. I found Drums to be the most enjoyable aspect of the show (and for me that is saying something). It truly kind of ruined my memories of what was once a spectacle. A circus so to speak and it really made me sad. I couldn\'t help but to look at my phone and wonder how long until the show was gonna be over.
Holy **** dude. Your 1st two paragraphs echoed my thought process exactly.
"Not expecting much musically but it will fun to do again -> $100?! get the **** out of here."
That review confirmed my worst fears, and went a long way to reassure me I did the right thing.
I told lilblondie back in February, that at those prices I think our best bet to put our time and resources toward Phish. Now, I\'m more of GD fan, in that I\'d take a \'72 Dead over a \'94 Phish if given a magic time machine. But in 2009? At least Phish has a chance of reaching peak levels again, like a \'90-91 GD. In which case I\'ll be thrilled.
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well they\'re shooting themselves in the foot ****. records don\'t sell anymore. the live show is THE source of income besides licensing.
great, the record labels will stop alienating their clientbase by suing them for stealing music, right? now they can put their focus on the live show and win back their listeners, right?
WRONG!!
they stick the diehard fans in the **** nosebleed section so they can put the corporate elite in the front rows. and now, at an ever increasing rate, the diehard fan is turning into a casual fan, and eventually into someone who\'s just gonna skip the show altogether. the bands need to really get vigilant about this **** if they want to keep any sort of hope for a lasting career. the fan that has supported the band and is the reason the band is playing these huge venues should be rewarded for their support. they should be able to score great tickets and not have to pay out the nose for them. instead they get **** on, being herded into the lawn section. in any other industry, you\'d be out on your ass for treating your clientbase so disrespectfully. you\'d never make it. any the music industry is about to find out that they ain\'t any different. i mean seriously! dead fans are some of the most **** and devoted fans in music, and even THEY are skipping out on shows. I think that says a lot...
It WILL change because people will stop paying.
I honestly was all pumped when they announced the tour. I wasn\'t expecting that much musically but thought it would be a good reason to get out on the road again kind so to speak.
I called a bumch of folks etc when dtaes got announced. I even posted on .info about wanting to do a bunch of shows. THEN I saw the tix price. Even tho I make a pretty good living I was like HELL no am I paying $100 per seat for "The Dead". So I didn\'t end up buying ANY tickets to any shows.
A buddy of mine mail ordered and seeing as Albany was a Friday show and as good a reason as any to hang out with friends I said screw it and went. WHAT A MISTAKE..
I guess I couldn\'t get over the $100 price. Add to that it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get a beer there, NO ONE was partying inside, the show was MELLOW as hell even tho the crowd was obviously ready to boogie, there were many musical flubs. I found Drums to be the most enjoyable aspect of the show (and for me that is saying something). It truly kind of ruined my memories of what was once a spectacle. A circus so to speak and it really made me sad. I couldn\'t help but to look at my phone and wonder how long until the show was gonna be over.
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well they\'re shooting themselves in the foot ****. records don\'t sell anymore. the live show is THE source of income besides licensing.
great, the record labels will stop alienating their clientbase by suing them for stealing music, right? now they can put their focus on the live show and win back their listeners, right?
WRONG!!
they stick the diehard fans in the **** nosebleed section so they can put the corporate elite in the front rows. and now, at an ever increasing rate, the diehard fan is turning into a casual fan, and eventually into someone who\'s just gonna skip the show altogether. the bands need to really get vigilant about this **** if they want to keep any sort of hope for a lasting career. the fan that has supported the band and is the reason the band is playing these huge venues should be rewarded for their support. they should be able to score great tickets and not have to pay out the nose for them. instead they get **** on, being herded into the lawn section. in any other industry, you\'d be out on your ass for treating your clientbase so disrespectfully. you\'d never make it. any the music industry is about to find out that they ain\'t any different. i mean seriously! dead fans are some of the most **** and devoted fans in music, and even THEY are skipping out on shows. I think that says a lot...
It WILL change because people will stop paying.
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the music industry sucks
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i think the price for stanley clarke and victor wooten is dead on correct. $35 for two of the best players in the world is a cheap price, considering stanley clarke just charged $35 in march for a solo show at the birchmere. the rest, however, are travesties.
as for why, i\'d say there\'s also the factor of venues charging more per ticket. remember, the artists will say we want X dollars per ticket, then the venue adds on their charges (parking, various fees, whatever). i\'d imagine phish has some sort of clause that requires venues to only take a certain extra amount, which is how they\'re able to keep prices so (relatively) low. otherwise they really are taking a reaming in profits. but most artists are willing to let the venues charge whatever they want.
then there\'s also the secondary market. don\'t forget, there are plenty of artists who will buy back large blocks of tickets and then sell them on stubhub themselves. so, if the venues are selling blocks (presumably at bulk rates), they\'ve gotta increase the individual ticket prices to help recoup some of that. add in the pre-segregated blocks for brokers, corporate venue sponsors, and there\'s a bunch of tickets that aren\'t bringing in the utmost profits. so, noce again, the screwings get passed on the the consumer....
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G - R - E - E - D & the internet are ruining a great thing as i sit back and watch it all spiral down the toilet.
I remember back when the internet was basically free and a pathway for cheaper products. It seems that even though that is still the mindset "oh, the internet is cheaper" it actually isn\'t.
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I opted not to see the Dead at MSG or Nassau because of the ticket prices.
You had better believe that I will be seeing Clarke, Miller and Wooten at Nokia in June. For a bass player that is a show and a couple of clinics all in one.
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I wouldn\'t normally pay $98 to see Bruce, but seeing as I won the tickets in the Tickmaster/Live Nation scandal lottery, I almost felt obligated to take them...
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i wanted to go and see the dead next week...even though i know its expensive...however....someone i would like to go with is holding a protest of principles...so iam hoping for next time....
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That\'s hilarious... The Dead - $108.50... Jerry must be looking down with a frown on his face seeing what\'s become of the live music scene. Look at The Wall of Sound... the Dead were losing money hauling the setup & crew around the country all because they wanted their fans to have the best possible sound available even if they had to build a 26,400 watt, 75 ton monstrosity(https://thebreakfast.info/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsrforums.prosoundweb.com%2Findex.php%2Ffa%2F19470%2F0%2F&hash=682fedb4a91c6d6a7e311ae185b38f00040c5cc7)(https://thebreakfast.info/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zelkas.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F05%2Fgratefulsound.jpg&hash=1e4db05d5d027c8658206e22e24f885200a86556)... everyone is getting greedy to the point of making me sick. G - R - E - E - D & the internet are ruining a great thing as i sit back and watch it all spiral down the toilet.
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35 is standard for the bank of america pavilion. i saw moe. and les claypool there for the same price, but i don\'t recall there being 17.50 in charges for one ticket. thats half the friggen ticket price. insane.
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speaking of Umphreys, never thought i would hear the WFAN sports radio regularly air a commercial for Mountain Jam, let alone mention Umphreys in the ad. I just looked at some old stubs the other night too and was a little surrprised when i saw phish at MSG in 02 for the same price theyre charging now. 49.50
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Dead @ DCU Center 4/18-4/19 $95.50 / $108.50
-They were washed up when I saw them 15 years ago. Sad, but true. People will still go.
Stanley Clark and Victor Wooten @ House of Blues 6/11 $45.50
-Wooten did 350/400 @ Toad\'s @ $25 a pop. I think the fanbases overlap more than they compliment each other. HOB Boston has got to be about 2,500 capacity. 800 in there and you here crickets and angry club managers. This has the potential to be a disaster of bridge buring porpotions.
Matisyahu and Umphrey\'s Mcgee @ BOA Paviliion 7/7 $53.50
UM did a solid 575 @ the Toad on a Sunday night. I think tix were $22. Matisyahu\'s draw has to be fading fast. He was interesting for about 5 minutes (and that was 4 years ago) How big is this place?
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the most shocking price is the UM/Matis, 53?
UM/Matis @ BOA
Price Level 1
Section 2, Row G, Seat # 25 Adult $35.00 Ticket Fee $12.35 Facility Fee $5.00 TICKET TOTAL $52.35 (http://http://tickets.livenation.com/cgi-bin/tickets.html?fun=clear_promotion&promo_id=0&id=EC2_NO_SESSION&doc=detailb&key=971$3605&affiliate=EC2)
&camefrom=CFC_BUYAT_jambase]Wooten/Carke @ HOB
Type1 Full Price Ticket Ticket PriceUS $35.00 Convenience ChargeUS $8.25 TICKET TOTAL $43.25 (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0100427FB6F3815A?brand=[=BRAND=)
Aeorsmith @ Comcast:
Price Level 1
Section 8, Row F, Seat # 10 Adult $200.00 Ticket Fee $26.00 Facility Fee $7.00 TICKET TOTAL $233.00 (http://tickets.livenation.com/cgi-bin/tickets.html?fun=clear_promotion&promo_id=0&id=EC2_NO_SESSION&doc=detailb&key=878$3574&affiliate=EC2)
Stanley Clark and Victor Wooten @ House of Blues 6/11 $45.50
hmmm that is a bit pricey... i bet it will be a good show though.:chin:
Oh, I\'m sure it will, just like a Lexus is a good car and dinner at L\'Espalier is a good meal. The quality of the product is not in question for any of these shows. The value of the product, and the economic standing of the average consumer attending the shows... these are what are at issue here.
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Stanley Clark and Victor Wooten @ House of Blues 6/11 $45.50
hmmm that is a bit pricey... i bet it will be a good show though.:chin:
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the most shocking price is the UM/Matis, 53?
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You coming to my party Tuesday wolfman? its FREE!
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Aerosmith ends up at $233 a seat face falue for the entire pavilion,
Who is paying that kind of money? Likely people up to their ears in debt who would benefit from cheaper entertainment. The only times I haven\'t minded plunking down $ for entertainment has been Bfast touring - which often doubles as an excuse to take a vacation.
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Three shows I\'ll be skipping only because of the price:
Dead @ DCU Center 4/18-4/19 $95.50 / $108.50
Stanley Clark and Victor Wooten @ House of Blues 6/11 $43.25
Matisyahu and Umphrey\'s Mcgee @ BOA Paviliion 7/7 $52.35
hmmmmmmmmmmm
Turning down shows just because of the price is a new thing for me. I never used to miss any shows because of the price, and ironically that was back when I made relatively little money. As I look over all my old stubs, I was always paying $12-$25 for shows very similar to these. That Clarke/Wooten show would have been $15 10 years ago. And yes, Phish @ DCU Center (Worcester Centrum) was $25 straight up no fees from mailorder in 1998...now The Dead get $108.50.
(On a side note, you have to give props to Phish for the $63 tickets to every seat, every show. Out of curiosity I checked Aerosmith @ Mansfield. Aerosmith ends up at $233 a seat face falue for the entire pavilion, the same seats Phish ends up at $63 each for, and Phish is in higher demand. Phish is leaving so much money on the table it\'s not even funny.)
I understand inflation, but inflation has not gone up 300-400% in the last ten years. Inflation is only up about 10% as expected. So how did attending concerts become just the greatest flipping thing ever? Do people really like concerts and sporting events that much more than they did ten years ago? What changed?
Methinks the internet his highly responsible. There\'s no denying the fact that the rise of the internet has coincided precisely with the rise in ticket prices. The internet-driven explosion of the secondary ticket market has led to a world of ticket prices driven by false demand from both professional and amateur resellers. There are many, many people making a lot of money by getting to tickets before fans do, and not all of them are agencies either.
As I\'ve written before, I understand that most event tickets are now the playthings of the privileged. They\'re like a fancy car or dinner at a top restaurant. I understand and accept this as fundamental socio-economics and I accept that it most often won\'t work out in my favor. I\'m grateful that I\'ve been fortunate enough to be able to dabble in a couple of high-end tickets on occasion. However, I find it interesting and obviously a bit disheartening that from age 17-26, when I had far less money, I never even had to consider the price of shows... if I wanted to go, I went. Now even acts like Victor Wooten and Umphrey\'s McGee, who aren\'t exactly mainstream, pull more than a weekly grocery bill. It\'s quite a change, and the internet did it.