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Breakfast Babble => Food For Thought => 2008 => Topic started by: davepeck on August 30, 2008, 09:01:54 pm


Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Lexington on September 05, 2008, 02:41:41 pm
i dig the biscuits, but i think they\'d be way better with adrian on drums.


and tpalms on guitar.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: ds673488 on September 05, 2008, 11:10:55 am
Quote from: NickNels;201602
I agree with Dave.  Jamband scene is very opinionated...especially when you take it to the message boards.  Dave, I assume you jumped on PT?  The majority of those people are way too critical.  The Buffalo show you talked about I actually heard was great.  Glad you got a chance to see them.

yeah i went on PT...the buffalo show was awesome, one of the best shows ive seen all year.  jam packed, everyone into the music.  And over half the crowd had probably never seen the band before.  All those thursday at the square shows are great, they always get really good bands to come, and there is always a HUGE crowd if the weather is nice (>5000 people).

They were the only band (no opener, which is uncommon), and they played a an over 3 hour show, which would have gone longer if the biggest thunderstorm of the summer didnt unleash its wrath right when the encore started.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Gordo on September 05, 2008, 10:31:01 am
Two issues with the sociology experiment:

1) Race relations are non-existent
2) Because race relations are non-existent, so are class disparities

Booooorrrriiiing.

I\'m not totally serious here, but we are a bunch of priveleged white kids in this scene (obviously there are always exceptions so save your breath) which is exactly why there is so much bitching about petty ****. I\'m totally guilty of this crime at times too.

However, I\'ve thought about how you could conduct a sociological experiment in this scene often, so I like where Dave\'s head is at. Gender ALWAYS works. I\'d say on this board alone you see genderized norms of how people act and react (jocelyn strikes me as the only exception off the top of my head) and in unique ways specific to this scene. I\'m going to stop here immediately.

btw, Whoopsie-daisy on the old Buquebus-inverticus Q to basically open this thread and spark a total **** show.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: ulee on September 05, 2008, 09:55:34 am
this is one of those "hidden gem" threads :)
The "sociology experiment" of the big jam band crowds always got to me.. raves too.. where there is such a unified feeling, an ecstatic celebration of wonder and energy.. but it also can be a very disconnected/everyone-out-for-themselves vibe.. I feel an overwhelming love for everybody sometimes at these, not because of drugs, but just from getting to those places where music can take us, together, seeing how we\'re all made of the same stuff.. and then I\'m like, wouldn\'t it be great if we could use this loving energy to create positive change in the world instead of just each individual getting their latest hedonistic high? and then I don\'t know where to go from there.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: NickNels on September 05, 2008, 09:20:29 am
I agree with Dave.  Jamband scene is very opinionated...especially when you take it to the message boards.  Dave, I assume you jumped on PT?  The majority of those people are way too critical.  The Buffalo show you talked about I actually heard was great.  Glad you got a chance to see them.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Ren on September 05, 2008, 12:26:32 am
that is true.  you either stick around forever and burn out.  or you slowly start to pick apart those who come after you.  i don\'t know why.  i always hated it and believe that i\'ve even commented on the subject and how much i hate it when i see it done.  i don\'t know why it happens, sometimes you can\'t help it.  you see the same people doing the same ****, and still getting off on it over and over, it begins to drive you out of your mind.  sorry if i upset you guys but i wasn\'t directing it at any of you.  but it does get old.  i guess it\'ll have to be a case of "to each their own."
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: ds673488 on September 04, 2008, 10:17:53 pm
i just took 20 minutes reading all these posts.  I have one thought to add...

Ive seen the disco biscuits ONE time...i drove 4 hours each way, and most of the ride home was pouring rain.  It was a free show in buffalo outside this summer.  I was DEAD SOBER (i think i had 2 beers over 5 hours).  I had a blast, and i was analyzing the music the entire time.  The drummer is very tight and drives the rest of the band, and the bass player does the same and does some really cool things during jam transitions.  The guitar player and keys player both arent awesome, but they get the job done.  And for a band who plays their type of music, the most important thing is a solid driving rythym section.

I knew it was a really good show, so i jumped on as a guest into TDB message board to see what the fans thought.  All everybody was talking about was arguing over the fact that people were crowd surfing throughout the show and how much that ruined everything and "no one who crowd surfs should ever be at a bisco show."  I couldnt believe this was actually bothering people.  I thought it was great and i was totally sober.

I think in general the "jam band" scene has a lot of very opinionated people, and a lot of people who feel like they know more than the guy next to him/her because they are a part of a devoted band following.  So anyone who acts differently than what they think is the right way to be is subject to scrutiny.  It would be the same as if somone with tattoos and piercings all over himself walked into a catholic church.

I could write a book on the jam band social network, but ill stop myself from going to far.  I\'ll just say the whole thing is like one big sociology experiment.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Ren on September 04, 2008, 06:36:42 pm
...yep i sound like an idiot.  
...i don\'t pay attention to the music.  
...i\'m old and jaded.  
...the queens bridge remix of j. geils was the ****

sounds like it struck a chord with a few of you.  notice i never bad mouthed the band, only certain fans.  unless you guys are that kind of person, what do you care?  i know the same amount of b\'fast people, and then and now, the majority of them aren\'t like the people i described.  i guess that i jumped the gun by saying the "typical biscuits fan."  i was refering to the played out wookie/homeboy hybrid that A LOT of people associate with them.  sorry, but that\'s the way it is.  that\'s all i take back.

i don\'t hang out in fairfield, i just live here.  i got past the whole, "hey remember that song?!!" with 80\'s music.  i unfortunatley have seen people dance to it.

i did not realize that girl i chose to bring along was like that until then, i mean obviously i knew she did drugs, but i didn\'t realize that\'s what it was all about for her.

if having nowhere else to go and getting slammed into constantly by some **** up **** who can\'t control themself directly affects my ability to enjoy or give my full attention to the music that i love means my priorities are **** up, then i guess they are.

and obviously lsd at a b\'fast show is intense.  however, using a little restraint while on it is equally intense and hard to do at times, but just plain fun to try and pull it off.  

if i had more time i would more closely dissect the parts that "offended" me, and quote them all.  however, i really don\'t give a ****.  it shouldn\'t be taken personal.  i guess it was.  it\'s just all a matter of priorities.

see you guys at sully\'s.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: NickNels on September 04, 2008, 11:18:40 am
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"gimme all the drugs i can get, doesn\'t matter what it is, i\'ll take it,"


Is that a direct quote?

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i was glad to see that for the most part, well almost the majority of b\'fast fans when i first started coming around back in the good ol\' days, were nothing like that.

You mean the 20 people that used to see the band back in 2000 vs. the 50 people that see the band today.  At a typical Breakfast show i know probably 80-90% of the people in the crowd.  The Biscuits fanbase is, conservatively, 200x the size.  The larger the fanbase, the more diverse the crowd and their interests.  Sure you will get some rotten eggs in there, but that is just a direct reflection of society as a whole.

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that type of person is a cancer to ANY music scene. also the kind of person that made phish supposedly lose their desire to play for people. that fan does NOT have genuine passion for music. they have a passion for drugs. the music is just an after thought or something to move to, i mean, at the lot in plains, pa they were dancing to j. geils for christ\'s sake, fuckin\' sit these people in a big, open room with flashing lights and a big screen tv with any random movie on and they\'ll have the same reaction.

A cancer to the scene?  I\'m sure the Biscuits don\'t see it that way.  Yeah some kids come and get **** up...so what?  You don\'t think that happens at Breakfast shows?  Bottom line, whether they are faced or sober, they are still putting down $30-$50 per show to see this band.  The Breakfast would kill to have that kind dedication...and if you believe otherwise you are CRAZY!

Yes...and Phish "lost the desire to play for people" because they felt people weren\'t interested in the music anymore, just get **** up.  Are you ser?  

And who are you to decide what\'s good music and what isn\'t?  If people want to get down to J. Geils, then fuckin\' get down.  You live in Fairfield and you\'ve never seen people getting down to \'80\'s music?

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every one of their fans i have ever met since like \'98 or \'99 has mentioned how **** up they were and how many different drugs they\'d taken when they went. according to older fans of the band, it wasn\'t always like that. surprise, surprise, yet another thing ruined by filthy, dirty, scuzzy, nasty-ass immature druggies.

Yes...that\'s what happens in the \'jam\' scene when a band gets big.  You pick up more fans!  Some have different priorities at a show, but (for the most part) they all have enough passion to drop money down to check them out.  Jaded veterans of the scene will always talk about how much better it was back in the day.  So what?  What else is new?

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i went to see phish in 2000 at the meadows, we took a "bisco girl," like half way through the show while wandering around i ran into her, she immediately comes up to me, eyes darting around and huge, and goes, "heeeeeey, what\'s up, are you having a good time?!?! what are you on?!?" i was like, "uh, nothing," she was like, "seriously? that\'s uh, cool," and got a sarcastic thumbs up...

So you are complaining about these people at shows, yet you choose to bring her with you?

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if you need to take drugs to enjoy a band, do you really like that band to begin with?

I love the Biscuits and the Breakfast whether i\'m **** up or completely sober.  Some of my most enjoyable shows i have tripping or rolling, but I can say the same thing about sober shows.  Depends on what i\'m in the mood for.  It\'s called life...live it.

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no fuckin\' thanks. imagine a bar full of those ****? or a place like maybe, the field or jake\'s, or some kind of nice place they\'ve never played before, for example, does anyone think they\'d be invited back?!?!

i think not...

So if they Breakfast started selling out small venues with lines out the doors, you don\'t think they would be invited back?  Money is money.  The venues are glad to see.  More ticket, food, and drink sales I would say increase the odds of being invited back.  No?  

Sorry this turned into a rant, but Ren\'s post was just too ridiculous.  To bring it home...yes there are a lot of kids getting **** up in the Biscuits scene, but over half their fanbase is made up of 16-21yr old kids.  What were you doing during those ages?  Partying, having fun, drinking, smoking, getting **** up...basically looking for a good time.  If they want to have a good time at a show, with a band they enjoy, all the more power to them.  Who are you to say otherwise?  Regardless, if your enjoyment is influenced more by what people are doing around you rather than what\'s on stage, maybe your priorities are mixed up?

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i know that everytime i\'ve tried to go to a bisco show, some spun out imbecile would keep crashing into me or would be talking about whatever over the music, never allowing me the chance to get into the music.

Just gotta find a good spot.  Generally right in front of the SBD yields great sound and less talking (because of the tapers).  When an indoor building is sold out or at least packed, you will deal with these complications, Biscuits or not
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: jking on September 04, 2008, 10:18:33 am
when the fans interfere with the music being played because of the drugs they\'re on, it becomes very difficult to pay any attention to the music.

i know that everytime i\'ve tried to go to a bisco show, some spun out imbecile would keep crashing into me or would be talking about whatever over the music, never allowing me the chance to get into the music.

do what you want, but if you know to shut up and not annoy your neighbors at a movie, why can\'t you do the same at a concert???
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: zuke583 on September 04, 2008, 08:27:18 am
ren you sound like a **** idiot

try paying a little more attention to the music and a little less attention to the fans
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Gfunk on September 04, 2008, 01:17:52 am
Quote from: Ren;201466
that fan does NOT have genuine passion for music.  they have a passion for drugs.  the music is just an after thought or something to move to, i mean, at the lot in plains, pa they were dancing to j. geils for christ\'s sake, fuckin\' sit these people in a big, open room with flashing lights and a big screen tv with any random movie on and they\'ll have the same reaction.

Hey whats wrong with J Geils Band??!





















.....Alright I guess J Giels went downhill pretty fast after "Give It To Me"

but anywho, I can totally see where your coming from Ren, And I have seen a buncha Breakfast shows completely sober, but Gabo makes a good point. Being faced at a Breakfast show can be a GREAT **** thing. And I\'m not talking about taking a bunch random pharmies/deemsters/whatnot, I\'m talkin bout good old fashion LSD.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: bezerker on September 04, 2008, 12:50:08 am
^^  i agree for the most part, but there is nothing like being faced at a bfast show.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Ren on September 04, 2008, 12:38:08 am
...the b\'fast does not need the typical disco biscuits fan.  

the same kinds of "gimme all the drugs i can get, doesn\'t matter what it is, i\'ll take it," people are what turned me off from the jam scene.  i was glad to see that for the most part, well almost the majority of b\'fast fans when i first started coming around back in the good ol\' days, were nothing like that.  that type of person is a cancer to ANY music scene.  also the kind of person that made phish supposedly lose their desire to play for people.  that fan does NOT have genuine passion for music.  they have a passion for drugs.  the music is just an after thought or something to move to, i mean, at the lot in plains, pa they were dancing to j. geils for christ\'s sake, fuckin\' sit these people in a big, open room with flashing lights and a big screen tv with any random movie on and they\'ll have the same reaction.

every one of their fans i have ever met since like \'98 or \'99 has mentioned how **** up they were and how many different drugs they\'d taken when they went.  according to older fans of the band, it wasn\'t always like that.  surprise, surprise, yet another thing ruined by filthy, dirty, scuzzy, nasty-ass immature druggies.  i went to see phish in 2000 at the meadows, we took a "bisco girl," like half way through the show while wandering around i ran into her, she immediately comes up to me, eyes darting around and huge, and goes, "heeeeeey, what\'s up, are you having a good time?!?!  what are you on?!?"  i was like, "uh, nothing,"  she was like, "seriously? that\'s uh, cool," and got a sarcastic thumbs up...

if you need to take drugs to enjoy a band, do you really like that band to begin with?

no fuckin\' thanks.  imagine a bar full of those ****?  or a place like maybe, the field or jake\'s, or some kind of nice place they\'ve never played before, for example, does anyone think they\'d be invited back?!?!  

i think not...
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: peaches626 on September 03, 2008, 11:49:01 pm
i think i remember the best a trio performance of great big at the century lounge in providence- a really cool jam from three piece era
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: bezerker on September 03, 2008, 11:43:59 pm
Quote from: peaches626;201457
and beginning of eschers II jam makes me think of Great Big Fiery Ball in the Sky, which reminds me that I want the Breakfast to play that song.

i agree, taintlicker.  reminds me of the puppet house great big ( my favorite one ever.)
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: peaches626 on September 03, 2008, 11:33:51 pm
what the funk = ehnice!

and beginning of eschers II jam makes me think of Great Big Fiery Ball in the Sky, which reminds me that I want the Breakfast to play that song.


And in absencio, Leith endorses GBFBIT
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: skalnbyc on September 03, 2008, 07:29:40 pm
Quote from: davepeck;201396
just caught a [-]garcian[/-] Gay Seein\' tease in EE2.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Mark on September 03, 2008, 04:42:52 pm
Pre-show teases included Miles Beyond and It\'s Ice, 2 songs I would love to hear sometime.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: davepeck on September 03, 2008, 01:36:11 pm
just caught a garcian tease in EE2.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: FieryBill on September 02, 2008, 07:01:02 pm
Definitely a Fresh Cut tease at the beginning of Reel Time. BTW.... WOW what a show!! Enjoying the DVD at the moment, thank you again Ken.... LBoogie I can see you up front rocking like crazy!

AWWWWW YEAH BREAKFAST RULES!!!!!!!
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: bdfreetuna on September 02, 2008, 05:32:18 pm
^^
A good combination of you like serotonin syndrome, heart palpitations, and possible seizure.

stick to the catamine for combos ;)
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Jim Cobb on September 02, 2008, 04:25:18 pm
Quote from: zuke583;201198
Quote from: Jim Cobb;201195
if i start seeing shady dudes in bfast lots saying in a monotone voice "dxm.....      2C-B.....      dxm......          2C-B.....", i\'m turning around and going home. ;)

are you crazy!?!

i\'d love it if walsh came back!

rotfl

no, no i think you misundestood me, i didn\'t say a shady dude with a monotone voice who\'s ON dxm and 2c-b.... ;)
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on September 02, 2008, 02:47:21 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb;201110
yes DEFINITELY bittersweet symphony teases in there and there was also a fresh cut tease at the beginning of reel time that was enough of a fake out that it definitely also deserves setlist notation.
I thought I heard a Fresh Cut tease at the time, but I reconsidered that maybe I was just fishing for a bustout (even one that I wouldn\'t be overly excited for like Fresh Cut). After another listen, though, it\'s definitely an intentional tease.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Whineberg on September 02, 2008, 02:18:48 pm
I\'m getting out, while the getting is good.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: peaches626 on September 02, 2008, 12:11:04 pm
nice one zuke!!



da dunk tssshhhhhh:rimshot:
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: galenas on September 02, 2008, 10:49:58 am
Quote from: zuke583;201198
Quote from: Jim Cobb;201195
if i start seeing shady dudes in bfast lots saying in a monotone voice "dxm.....      2C-B.....      dxm......          2C-B.....", i\'m turning around and going home. ;)

are you crazy!?!

i\'d love it if walsh came back!

:lol:
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: zuke583 on September 02, 2008, 10:39:41 am
Quote from: Jim Cobb;201195
if i start seeing shady dudes in bfast lots saying in a monotone voice "dxm.....      2C-B.....      dxm......          2C-B.....", i\'m turning around and going home. ;)

are you crazy!?!

i\'d love it if walsh came back!
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Jim Cobb on September 02, 2008, 10:26:58 am
if i start seeing shady dudes in bfast lots saying in a monotone voice "dxm.....      2C-B.....      dxm......          2C-B.....", i\'m turning around and going home. ;)
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: obsession600 on September 02, 2008, 10:24:15 am
Quote from: davepeck;201048
that story ends there. let\'s talk about the show and how **** great it was.

this bears repeating
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: bdfreetuna on September 02, 2008, 07:52:03 am
Quote from: Jim Cobb;201110
overwhelmingly obnoxious, intrusively over the top, attention seeking masses of idiot children (i\'m talking maturity, not physical age), too **** up on some combination of any number of halucinagens, disociatives, research chemicals, uppers, etc....  the "Everyone in my immediate viscinity needs to be aware of what\'s going on my reality right now whether they like it or not" mindset really doesn\'t sit well with me when i\'m  vacillating between "dancing" (*see foot note), having to sit/lie down because it\'s all too much to handle, and physically accosting those around him order to go into a time consuming, obnoxiously loud, generally nonsensical diatribe making sure that this person is having fun and loves the disco biscuits, then something\'s just not quite right.  this is not the type of fan the breakfast needs.  in fact, i\'d say this type of fan would be detrimental to the success and progress of the band.  the breakfast aren\'t a cheesy electrojam band, they are a progressive improvisational rock band and i think the jam band scene in general is the wrong pond for them to fish in.

1st half of post = halarious, we def need more dissociatives and research chem combos in B Lot. :thumbsup:

2nd half of post , I disagree. These are exactly the fans Breakfast needs more of because they are passionate about the band and will do anything to make sure they make it to a show no matter how **** they are. And while I don\'t find The Breakfast cheesy they can certainly bust out some sick delay-dance grooves.

I don\'t even like the Disco Biscuits but no need to be a hater :disco:  Plenty of Breakfast fans enjoy DB as well so lets try to remember we\'re all family here.

Also, The Breakfast is a jam band. Like it or not, its pretty obvious that\'s what they are no matter what anybody or even the band call themselves. No need to make up funk/rock/progressive/jam/fusion/etc genres just to make them sound better than a "jam band". They just happen to be the most funky rockin progressive fusiony etcetera jam band there is.

peace!
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: peaches626 on September 02, 2008, 12:19:16 am
again, biscuits heads appear to think they created the end all book of setlist notations.....

here at the breakfast dot info, if a song is played so that the end is before the beginning, it\'s "inverted" whether other songs are played in between the two parts or not....



personally... i don\'t really care whether it\'s called inverted, dyslexic, chopped up, mangled, or puree\'d, so long as i can understand what happened at the show
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: NickNels on September 01, 2008, 04:31:22 pm
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"Dyslexic" vs. "inverted" is a matter of colloquial terms, not textbook definitions. This ain\'t Camp Bisco, and we use "inverted" here. It\'s really not a big deal.

"An inverted version of a song will almost always happen when they jam out of a different song (Song B), and segue the jam into the ending section of Song A. At the exact point of the ending of Song A, they immediately play the beginning of Song A, then the jam section, which usually segues into a different song (Song C), or the song that proceeded the inverted song (Song B).

Example:

Non-Inverted Version of a song:
Song A (Beg.) -> Jam ->Song A (End)"

Inverted Version:
Song B -> Jam -> Song A (End) -> Song A (Beg.) -> Jam -> Song C

Basically, a song is considered dyslexic if it is broken up, similar to an inverted version, but the song structure is played out of order or not immediately following each other. The band might play the end of a song in the first set, then start off the second set with the beginning. This would be considered a dyslexic version of the song.

Example:

Dyslexic Version:
Song A -> Jam -> Song B (End), Song C, Song B (Beg.) -> Song D


Source: http://www.discobiscuits.net

I just find it strange that if would use a term like "inverted" that was popularized by the Disco Biscuits fanbase and not use the term "dyslexic" as well.  I am in no way saying the Disco Biscuits were the first to perform a song in this manner, but the actual inverted/dyslexic nomenclature have been associated with the band\'s setlists.  Why use one and not the other?  

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yeah seriously, at the risk of offending folks, i gotta say, if i had my way, the breakfast scene would repel disco biscuit fans... i know i\'m generalizing. there are plenty of disco biscuit fans who are very cool folks, and most of you all who listen to them would fall into that category. however, every time i\'ve ever seen the disco biscuits, if there had been any chance of me enjoying their music (there wasn\'t, they\'re horrible IMO), it would have been ruined by the overwhelmingly obnoxious, intrusively over the top, attention seeking masses of idiot children (i\'m talking maturity, not physical age), too **** up on some combination of any number of halucinagens, disociatives, research chemicals, uppers, etc.... the "Everyone in my immediate viscinity needs to be aware of what\'s going on my reality right now whether they like it or not" mindset really doesn\'t sit well with me when i\'m trying so hard to find some sort of redeeming quality about the band i\'m watching (you know, to justify the fact that i\'m spending time there to begin with). at langerado, i basically had to keep my normally peaceful, spiritually fit, yogi fiance from decking a guy in the face, lol. it feels like the opening day of american idol auditions except instead of wanting to be the best performer, these people seem to be competing to see who\'s perception of reality has been wrenched out into an alternate dimension the hardest by the most esoteric combination of mind and mood altering substances. when the most popular and respected fan in your general vicinity is the guy who\'s dressed (if you can even call it that) like he just got off of a 1950s sci fi b-movie set, in which he played the alien flying saucer pilot, and vacillating between "dancing" (*see foot note), having to sit/lie down because it\'s all too much to handle, and physically accosting those around him order to go into a time consuming, obnoxiously loud, generally nonsensical diatribe making sure that this person is having fun and loves the disco biscuits, then something\'s just not quite right. this is not the type of fan the breakfast needs. in fact, i\'d say this type of fan would be detrimental to the success and progress of the band. the breakfast aren\'t a cheesy electrojam band, they are a progressive improvisational rock band and i think the jam band scene in general is the wrong pond for them to fish in. i mean, i know we\'re all used to the breakfast in a certain context, but if you think about it, there are a LOT of bands from all over the "rock" spectrum they could do well touring with....

HAHAHAHA.  Wow!  That is quite the rant.  It\'s cool...the Biscuits seem to be a love \'em / hate \'em thing with most people.  Reading through your post though, I notice that most of you attention was directed toward the fanbase in regard to your hatred.  I have been seeing the Biscuits since \'02 and have seen about 70 shows...I can understand your argument.  THere are definetly some **** in the bunch.  They can be loud, unruly, and obnoxious and if you let them bother you, they can quickly ruin your time.  The truth is though, that these are the (unfortunately) loud and vocal minority.  There are really a lot of good heads in the scene, especially if they have been seeing the band for a while.

When was the first show you went to?  THe music/fanbase has evolved/devolved over the past few years.  THey have become much bigger then when I first saw them.  Just like any large band associated with the "jam" scene, the more popular the band, the bigger the scene, the bigger the party, the more TRASH they attract.

There genuinely is a lot of great stuff coming out of this band recently.  Just like with the Breakfast, they have been developing a different sound with the new lineup.  This past year they have reached a level that I haven\'t seen since I first started seeing them.  Even though their sound now is different then what drew me in, it is still great.  I highly suggest checking out their Saturday Camp Bisco performance (set I, II, or III) as an example.

THe Disco Biscuits are my favorite (currently touring) band.  Jim we\'ve met a couple times...I think you can see that I am far from the \'scenester\' trash that you describe in your post.  There is hope.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Jim Cobb on September 01, 2008, 01:12:32 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;201087
Upon second listen, I\'m pretty sure that there are "Bittersweet Symphony" and "1999" teases in And She Was. The "1999" tease may be too generic sounding to clear the bar as an official tease, but "Bittersweet Symphony" is definitely there.

yes DEFINITELY bittersweet symphony teases in there and there was also a fresh cut tease at the beginning of reel time that was enough of a fake out that it definitely also deserves setlist notation.

Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;201092
This ain\'t Camp Bisco

:lol: :drew: :point: :yay: :thumbsup: rotfl

yeah seriously, at the risk of offending folks, i gotta say, if i had my way, the breakfast scene would repel disco biscuit fans...  i know i\'m generalizing.  there are plenty of disco biscuit fans who are very cool folks, and most of you all who listen to them would fall into that category.  however, every time i\'ve ever seen the disco biscuits, if there had been any chance of me enjoying their music (there wasn\'t, they\'re horrible IMO), it would have been ruined by the overwhelmingly obnoxious, intrusively over the top, attention seeking masses of idiot children (i\'m talking maturity, not physical age), too **** up on some combination of any number of halucinagens, disociatives, research chemicals, uppers, etc....  the "Everyone in my immediate viscinity needs to be aware of what\'s going on my reality right now whether they like it or not" mindset really doesn\'t sit well with me when i\'m trying so hard to find some sort of redeeming quality about the band i\'m watching (you know, to justify the fact that i\'m spending time there to begin with).  at langerado, i basically had to keep my normally peaceful, spiritually fit, yogi fiance from decking a guy in the face, lol.  it feels like the opening day of american idol auditions except instead of wanting to be the best performer, these people seem to be competing to see who\'s perception of reality has been wrenched out into an alternate dimension the hardest by the most esoteric combination of mind and mood altering substances.  when the most popular and respected fan in your general vicinity is the guy who\'s dressed (if you can even call it that) like he just got off of a 1950s sci fi b-movie set, in which he played the alien flying saucer pilot, and vacillating between "dancing" (*see foot note), having to sit/lie down because it\'s all too much to handle, and physically accosting those around him order to go into a time consuming, obnoxiously loud, generally nonsensical diatribe making sure that this person is having fun and loves the disco biscuits, then something\'s just not quite right.  this is not the type of fan the breakfast needs.  in fact, i\'d say this type of fan would be detrimental to the success and progress of the band.  the breakfast aren\'t a cheesy electrojam band, they are a progressive improvisational rock band and i think the jam band scene in general is the wrong pond for them to fish in.  i mean, i know we\'re all used to the breakfast in a certain context, but if you think about it, there are a LOT of bands from all over the "rock" spectrum they could do well touring with....  

holy god.  this is long and meandering...  i\'ve kinda been doing other things and typing a couple sentences here and there...  i\'m gonna cut myself off right now.  sorry this always happens when i eat mescaline too close to my last meth hit.  gotta get that balance figured out.....


*some might argue these movements are actually involuntary muscular reactions based on several variables including, but bot limited to type/quantity of drugs ingested within the past 72 hours, variations in sound pressure level and frequency, the relative amount of similar behavior of those around him, etc.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: bezerker on September 01, 2008, 11:25:25 am
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As a Breakfast archivist, why would you knowingly post an inaccurate setlist (notation)?

seriously this argument is retar dit.  song was fuckin invtd.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on September 01, 2008, 11:01:58 am
Quote from: NickNels;201090
As a Breakfast archivist, why would you knowingly post an inaccurate setlist (notation)?
"Dyslexic" vs. "inverted" is a matter of colloquial terms, not textbook definitions. This ain\'t Camp Bisco, and we use "inverted" here. It\'s really not a big deal.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: NickNels on September 01, 2008, 10:39:38 am
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you will never see me write the word "dyslexic" on a setlist, unless it happens to appear in the title of a new breakfast song, or if the word somehow comes up in a FFT.

As a Breakfast archivist, why would you knowingly post an inaccurate setlist (notation)?
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on September 01, 2008, 08:40:48 am
Upon second listen, I\'m pretty sure that there are "Bittersweet Symphony" and "1999" teases in And She Was. The "1999" tease may be too generic sounding to clear the bar as an official tease, but "Bittersweet Symphony" is definitely there.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Wolfman on August 31, 2008, 04:32:54 pm
Show was awesome.  Buquebus came in at the first jam and went all the way through Eat Your Breakfast Cross The Nation chorus into the second jam.  When they played the rest later it was just the beginning of the song up to the first jam.  Escher\'s III was insane, like, really insane.  Adrian had the best show out of anyone.  He really let go of the beat a bunch of times in jams, challenging the rest of the band to remember where the downbeat was when the jam peaked.  That maneuver is always good for a bunch of cheers and people jamming out.  Place was packed and VERY hot, I was sweating just from light dancing, almost to the point where it was embarassing.  Then I looked at Stevie and I didn\'t feel so bad.  (Just kidding Steve.)  Very good time, weird venue but at least the show was good.  See you at the Beatles tonight!
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: bdfreetuna on August 31, 2008, 03:57:36 pm
what was I thinking, thinking, thinking, I could just wait till Sully\'s and get it done...

gee whiz
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on August 31, 2008, 03:11:53 pm
From what I heard, the late start was not the band\'s fault (at least not entirely) this time. The show was supposed to open with Gravity, which would have been nice, but I think starting straight in with Escher\'s 1 set a great tone for the rest of the show. The band really wasn\'t **** around last night, opting to jump right into the composed sections of the tunes and let the jams come to them instead of using the jam > structure that has been prevalent as of late.

While I really like both songs at heart, I was never totally on board with Reel Time and And She Was based upon live recordings. But after seeing them both live and electric for the first time last night, and thus being able to take crowd energy into account, I am absolutely sold.

I\'m glad I twisted my own arm into going out last night, even though it meant sacrificing a trip to Branstock. See you all at Beatles A-Z in a few hours.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: peaches626 on August 31, 2008, 02:30:01 pm
ouch.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Ren on August 31, 2008, 01:36:00 pm
The show seemed to take forever to get started.  I was just impatient.  It absolutely was as good as it looks on paper.  Probably could\'ve been 2 sets if they didn\'t drag ass, though.

I honestly have no idea what to say about the show.  It had to be good to take our minds off of the fact that it was about 110 degrees in the place.  Holy ****.  Gencs actually put wet towels on their mic stands.  but anyway...

As quickly as Escher\'s 1 started it went right into a very hard hitting What the Funk that got everyone dancing for the rest of the night.  When it seemed time for WTF to come back around it went back into Escher\'s 2 which was just spectacular.  I haven\'t heard Reel Time in a while so that was a nice treat.  Escher\'s 3 was fuckin\' beautiful as always, I have to say that I never thought I\'d see an INVERTED Buquebus to tell you the truth, I mean it just started right as the change for Escher\'s 4 supposed to happen, it left me and I\'m sure a few others scratching our heads about whether or not it actually was Buquebus.  It picked up at the jam right after the first verse, it only took a few minutes to figure it out, I think it was just the fact that it was so unexpected.  It had a different feel to it than the legendary, though probably never to be heard one from 8/16 at River Street, still top fuckin\' notch.  Definitely the highlight of my night when it went back into Escher\'s 4, my favorite B\'fast song right now, just a perfectly timed segue.  

Metropolis is always fun.  This one was as about as good as it gets, though every version seems to surpass the one that came before it, this was also the case, just some really tremendous playing.

I figured there\'d be a few more and maybe the begining of Buquebus to close things out, but I was wrong as usual.  I don\'t care what the haters say, I love And She Was.  I also think that for the type of crowd there, it was a perfect fit.  

When it was over, I said quietly, "The Chase...?"  It was a perfect fit and a perfect ending.  Though an encore would\'ve been nice, I\'m still happy...
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: wACEted on August 31, 2008, 12:48:48 pm
The tail end of the night (\'dyslexic\' Buquebus jam onward) was worth the drive and the exhaustion after the metal show.

Breakfast straight up kills it. Bottom line.

Some pics from the past couple nights, if yer interested....

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=29577&l=1f7b3&id=509724110

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=29415&l=4ec5f&id=509724110

Most of \'em are of my ugly mug, but a couple great band shots (\'specially Timmy\'s tantrum on Friday night).

ROCK.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Vassillios on August 31, 2008, 11:31:34 am
That looks better than any fantasy setlist we\'ve been writing.... time to get way more creative
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Tweety_Gal on August 31, 2008, 10:53:34 am
Hardass...Whineberg.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: davepeck on August 31, 2008, 10:50:19 am
you will never see me write the word "dyslexic" on a setlist, unless it happens to appear in the title of a new breakfast song, or if the word somehow comes up in a FFT.

that story ends there. let\'s talk about the show and how **** great it was.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: NickNels on August 31, 2008, 10:47:25 am
Queeb was absolutely dyslexic
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Tweety_Gal on August 31, 2008, 10:41:21 am
You beat me to it, here we go again.....Buquebus was dyslexic......but the show was greatexic......Whineberg.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: zuke583 on August 31, 2008, 09:48:42 am
Quote from: BennyBoomers;201041
definately dyslexic Queeb.  

but lets not start this conversation again, some peeps just dont understand this concept.

we biscuits kids are just too smart for .info

how was the turnout...as good as last time at the field?
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: BennyBoomers on August 31, 2008, 09:11:22 am
definately dyslexic Queeb.  

but lets not start this conversation again, some peeps just dont understand this concept.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: bezerker on August 31, 2008, 08:51:26 am
im guessing it dropped into the first jam.  that is one fat fuckin set
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Jim Cobb on August 31, 2008, 08:26:19 am
this show was really **** good.

thats about all i got at the moment.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Gordo on August 31, 2008, 05:31:51 am
Escher\'s 3 > Buquebus inverticus had to be sick.. Actually, what section of Queeb did it drop into? I\'m imagining 2nd jam but realize it could\'ve fallen into many sections.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: Gfunk on August 31, 2008, 01:46:47 am
looks phenominal.
Title: Setlist: 2008-08-30 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
Post by: davepeck on August 30, 2008, 09:01:54 pm
I: Escher\'s Etchings (Part 1) > What The Funk* > Escher\'s Etchings (Part 2) > Reel Time, Escher\'s Etchings (Part 3)** > Buquebus^, keyboard solo > Escher\'s Etchings (Part 4)^^ > Metropolis, Buquebus^ > And She Was% > The Chase%%

* unfinished.
** with \'Regulate\' (Warren G) tease.
^ inverted.
^^ with \'Wrapped Around Your Finger\' (The Police) jam.
% with Shortnin\' Bread teases.
%% with \'Miss You\' (Rolling Stones) tease.