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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: Gordo on March 05, 2008, 12:06:04 am


Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Lexington on March 05, 2008, 08:18:47 pm
Set 1.
Sundance> Rush, The Sound>  instrumental World Needs Us jam> The Sound, Word Needs Us, The Message

Set 2.
Tunage, Living Daylights> New Beginning, Reel Time, Synergy*> Sundance

E. The Late and the Great> Over Exposure

E2. LDZ (yea, i said it)
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Overexjoesure on March 05, 2008, 08:18:43 pm
Songs that should be shelved:
Attraction to a Shade Ditty
Bugs
Fresh Cut
Food For Thought
Fresh Cut
Funky Bill\'s Circus Cliche
LDZ
Lit
No Regret
No Glove No Love
Phaddy Boom Baddy
TrickY ways
The Vt Song
Wild Pack of Asscracks
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: ds673488 on March 05, 2008, 07:27:43 pm
Quote from: bdfreetuna;182547

I love the new material, mostly, don\'t get me wrong. But I think it\'s good for the band and the fans if they keep most of their songs pretty much always in solid rotation. At least the ones we all know are their best.


THERE WE GO
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: bdfreetuna on March 05, 2008, 07:13:24 pm
Psychedelic Breakfast / The Breakfast has too many kickass songs to neglect them for long. And I doubt they will.

This is like any other new song break-in phase. Except its a little heavier this time around because 2 new members have fresh contributions to the band.

Give the new songs some time to break in and we\'ll be seeing the old tunes back in full rotation. I\'m surprised Tribal and Queeb have been getting much love lately, you know, I\'m sure Chris can play any Psychedelic Breakfast song, but there\'s probably a few he\'s getting into right off the bat.

Prob the other oldies they are saving until they have been fully remastered in practice sessions.

I love the new material, mostly, don\'t get me wrong. But I think it\'s good for the band and the fans if they keep most of their songs pretty much always in solid rotation. At least the ones we all know are their best.
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Vassillios on March 05, 2008, 03:52:22 pm
they still need new tunes that are monster jammers like the old ones though. keep the funk and rock alive, i like the jazz, but i got turned onto TB because of the funk and rock.

Synergy>HLH>Synergy>HLH
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Yoda on March 05, 2008, 03:42:11 pm
No one is saying that we don\'t want to hear the songs again.  What I\'m saying is that since this is basically a new band that kept the old name, they should move on as a new band and start fresh with their own tunes and play a couple old tunes when they feel like it.
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: ds673488 on March 05, 2008, 02:51:09 pm
i dont know why they cant play old songs...no other band will be playing them!  whats the big deal?  the more songs in a band\'s bank, the better.  PB had a LOT of quality older songs.  id much rather hear them in rotation then NEVER HEAR THEM AGAIN!
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Yoda on March 05, 2008, 02:32:36 pm
As much as I enjoyed seeing the Other Ones, it was a project by original dead members trying to keep the flame going.
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: derickw on March 05, 2008, 02:18:19 pm
alright i got it... the other ones......
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Yoda on March 05, 2008, 02:11:43 pm
Which were for the most part side projects relying heavily on dead material.  Look, I don\'t mean to sound like I don\'t want to hear any of the older tunes, but I think that look towards the future rather than relying on the past.
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: derickw on March 05, 2008, 01:56:29 pm
so it\'s like Ratdog and Phil and Friends
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Yoda on March 05, 2008, 01:47:10 pm
I don\'t think that the dead are a good comparison.  Up until Jerry died, the band still had all but one of it\'s original members.  TB has 50% new members, it\'s a new band.
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: tyzack on March 05, 2008, 01:37:26 pm
Quote from: Gordo;182474
I think you may have misinterpreted my point. The growing catalogue of new tunes is what\'s exciting everything about their shows for me. Like seeing Phish in \'98, I\'d be stoked to hear all of Ghost-- throw in Fluffhead somewhere and I\'d dump in my pants. Maybe it isn\'t the best comparison because the original lineup was intact :chin: . But I\'m ALL for them having enough new material to span an entire show, but would be devastated if they abandoned their songs that I fell in love with in the first place, especially with the new blood finding the groove so quickly and so well.

Quote
SET1
dead air
Feel Like a Stranger
Dire Wolf
Minglewood Blues
Brown Eyed Women
Wang Dang Doodle
Big Railroad Blues
Let it Grow
Day Job
 SET2
China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Playin\' in the Band
China Doll
Drums
Space
7
Throwin\' Stones
One More Saturday Night
ENCORE
Brokedown Palace

That\'s probably not the best example (but I was only looking at the shows on stash.nugs.net) but the grateful dead were able to do an okay job and rotating old (brokendown palace, china/rider) and new songs (stranger, throwin\') with some frequency and balance.

[The obivous counter point is that songs like "Allegator" disapeared with Pigpen and "Sunrise" with Donna]
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: booztravlr on March 05, 2008, 01:36:01 pm
Quote from: tyzack;182483
Quote from: booztravlr;182441
Living Daylights > Sweet Leaf > Living Daylights

Whoops, that\'s obviously not an original...

Frankly Po Zest > The World Needs Us > Frankly Po Zest

When was the last time they played Sweet Leaf?

2007-04-20 Syracuse, NY
2007-02-23 Southbridge, MA
2006-04-20 Burlington, VT
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Gordo on March 05, 2008, 01:31:30 pm
Quote from: Yoda;182481
I understood you comment, but I have a feeling that a lot of people are waiting for them to bust out all of their old tunes.  I personally think that they should willingly turn the corner on a new phase of the band and use the older tunes sparingly, not the majority of a set.

Absolutely. I\'m with you.
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: tyzack on March 05, 2008, 01:27:49 pm
Quote from: booztravlr;182441
Living Daylights > Sweet Leaf > Living Daylights

Whoops, that\'s obviously not an original...

Frankly Po Zest > The World Needs Us > Frankly Po Zest

When was the last time they played Sweet Leaf?
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Yoda on March 05, 2008, 01:23:02 pm
I understood you comment, but I have a feeling that a lot of people are waiting for them to bust out all of their old tunes.  I personally think that they should willingly turn the corner on a new phase of the band and use the older tunes sparingly, not the majority of a set.
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Gordo on March 05, 2008, 01:09:37 pm
Quote from: Yoda;182447
My thought is that half the band is new; the focus should definitely be on new tunes.  The old tunes are great, but they should build up a catalogue to the point that they can do a show entirely on material that "this band" wrote with a couple older tunes to supplement.  I\'m sure that my comments will **** off fans of the classic tunes, but lets be fair to Matt and Chris and let this be their band too, rather than being replacements for Ron and Jordan.

I think you may have misinterpreted my point. The growing catalogue of new tunes is what\'s exciting everything about their shows for me. Like seeing Phish in \'98, I\'d be stoked to hear all of Ghost-- throw in Fluffhead somewhere and I\'d dump in my pants. Maybe it isn\'t the best comparison because the original lineup was intact :chin: . But I\'m ALL for them having enough new material to span an entire show, but would be devastated if they abandoned their songs that I fell in love with in the first place, especially with the new blood finding the groove so quickly and so well.

Quote from: peaches626;182461
gladys. can\'t wait, shouldn\'t be long now

and i\'m probably one of the only people totally jones\'in for escher\'s 3 +4.  i\'m tellin ya, when that song finds it\'s groove it\'s gonna be amazing.  ya heard it here first, it\'s gonna take the TOT \'09

I\'m a huge fan of 3+4. I hope you\'re right peaches, and I\'ll be the first to give you full credit for standing as the strong, lonely minority. Consider me your E.E.T.F. secretary. Is that weird?
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: peaches626 on March 05, 2008, 11:52:42 am
gladys. can\'t wait, shouldn\'t be long now

and i\'m probably one of the only people totally jones\'in for escher\'s 3 +4.  i\'m tellin ya, when that song finds it\'s groove it\'s gonna be amazing.  ya heard it here first, it\'s gonna take the TOT \'09
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Vassillios on March 05, 2008, 10:50:42 am
I like all the new tunes to some degree, but we still need a new one that is straight-up epic.
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on March 05, 2008, 10:34:50 am
14 shows without a Gladys Pimp...
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Yoda on March 05, 2008, 10:09:37 am
My thought is that half the band is new; the focus should definitely be on new tunes.  The old tunes are great, but they should build up a catalogue to the point that they can do a show entirely on material that "this band" wrote with a couple older tunes to supplement.  I\'m sure that my comments will **** off fans of the classic tunes, but lets be fair to Matt and Chris and let this be their band too, rather than being replacements for Ron and Jordan.
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: booztravlr on March 05, 2008, 09:11:57 am
Living Daylights > Sweet Leaf > Living Daylights

Whoops, that\'s obviously not an original...

Frankly Po Zest > The World Needs Us > Frankly Po Zest
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Overexjoesure on March 05, 2008, 01:37:27 am
Mooboo\'s>Rush(inverted)>Mooboo\'s>Rush

P3wed. All of you. Thread over..
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Gordo on March 05, 2008, 12:16:11 am
Damn, that right there is a tasty club sandwich. Nice mod.
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: ChrisF on March 05, 2008, 12:13:03 am
Rush > Puppetry > World Needs Us > Puppetry > Rush
:lollol:
Title: Old Tunes
Post by: Gordo on March 05, 2008, 12:06:04 am
With the bustout of all the noobs, the classics have gained new life. I love the fact that the older heavy hitters are gradually becoming (more and more) rare and special at any given show. The "Awww **** what are they gonna\' bust out??!!" factor is swelling.

And I can\'t believe how fast Chris has picked this **** up, regardless of how long he had been practicing with the band before his announcement. It\'s really incredible.

I was wondering-- if The Breakfast had a one set show and played 8 tunes, 7 of which were the noobs, what would be your pick for the old original fill.. Be creative with a segue or sandwich too.

*Rush > Puppetry > World Needs Us*

or maybe a simpler

*Rush > Puppetry > Rush*