General Discussions => Inner Glimpse => Topic started by: leith on December 19, 2003, 12:31:57 pm
Title: Return of the King
Post by: oldnewbie on October 16, 2004, 07:25:01 pm
atta boy
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 16, 2004, 07:00:43 pm
I just finished a successful three week holdout on Columbus Day weekend. Next laundry stop, Fonghoulish Freakout VI.
Title: Return of the King
Post by: leith on October 16, 2004, 06:01:51 pm
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Originally posted by oldnewbie drew, i\'m curious....now that you\'ve been back to school a while....hows the laundry holding out?
:yay: :lol:
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Post by: oldnewbie on October 16, 2004, 05:46:45 pm
drew, i\'m curious....now that you\'ve been back to school a while....hows the laundry holding out?
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Post by: oldnewbie on October 16, 2004, 05:39:44 pm
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Originally posted by Drew_Kingsley I thought that this thread popped up out of nowhere with 25 responses overnight. I guess :drew: isn\'t that beloved after all.
i thought so to.....i guess your right
Title: Return of the King
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 16, 2004, 11:10:33 am
I thought that this thread popped up out of nowhere with 25 responses overnight. I guess :drew: isn\'t that beloved after all.
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Post by: Wolfman on October 16, 2004, 02:14:26 am
Upon second viewing, ROTK is sick. The battle of Minas Tirith stacks right up with Helms Deep. The acting is sensational and the adaption from book to movie is almost ingenious. My personal favorite movie is still Two Towers, but it\'s impossible to argue true quality of any one over the others. Heck, they were all shot at the same time by the same people. I still wish some more serious characters got whacked though, but that\'s not the way the story goes. Sam being forced to push Frodo into the fires of Mount Doom with the ring would\'ve been completely gut-wrenching. Call me Shakespearean, but it seems like Frodo was supposed to die on this quest.
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Post by: Yoda on December 30, 2003, 04:44:30 pm
If anyone finds a copy of ROTK on the net, I will trade for DVD of Phish - 10/31/94. PM me if you are interested.
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Post by: leith on December 29, 2003, 10:45:04 pm
AMEN
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Post by: mattgilhuly on December 29, 2003, 10:37:57 pm
I never read the books as a kid and I\'m glad. I picked them up when the first movie was coming out and read them during that winter. I couldn\'t put them down. That having been said I was never into sci fi or fantasy as a child - just wasn\'t my bag, baby.
The third movie kicks some serious ass. The parts that Jackson does treat are definitely parts that belong in the movie and I feel this book always was the one that begged for modern big screen. I really would have liked to see Frodo and the boys come back to the shire and **** slap Saruman and his thugs around some as experienced war vets, though. I would have sat through another 1 1/2 hours for it easily.
Overall, with the conflicts of business and art, Jackson pulled one off helping to establish the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings as a new popular mythology supporting a healthier multicultural world view. We can all live together and support the forces of light.
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Post by: Wolfman on December 28, 2003, 09:59:52 am
OK, I\'m new to the concept of "spoiler tags", as I\'m sure some other people probably are. An accompanying explanation would\'ve saved all of this trouble, but I understand that it was the site and not the user that prevented this. A much more important issue is indeed wtf happened to the site?
Title: Return of the King
Post by: leith on December 22, 2003, 06:36:21 pm
Actually I had you pegged as a Zoom guy. You damn lurker ;)
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Post by: freddiewaht on December 22, 2003, 04:35:32 pm
leith,thats what i like to see some good old fashoned **** talking around here.i honestly didnt know you had it in you!well either way,david spade,i prefer dora to seseme street.
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Post by: davepeck on December 22, 2003, 01:42:01 pm
oh, and i also made a post when i originally did it the other night.. unfortunately the site is too f\'ed up right now do do anything right.. ugh..
anyways, spoiler tags are completely normal.. they\'re not a censor by any means.. i plan on adding them to the forum so that you can do it yourself by adding to a post... it\'s just so if someone wants to read the spoilers, they have to make an effort. this prevents anyone accidentally reading spoilers...
the bigger issue here is, wtf happened to the site?? :(
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Post by: davepeck on December 22, 2003, 01:37:18 pm
uh.. guys.. i added spoiler tags.. nothing was censored... like leith said, if you wanna read it, you just have to highlight it...
Title: Return of the King
Post by: leith on December 22, 2003, 01:29:53 pm
Hey Wolf, It sux that u got blacked out but if anyone wanted to read your post they just had to click on the sentences to read. That\'s what I did. I think it may have been major spoiler in big letters that someone freaked on. Anyways keep up the fight!! No censors BOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Here\'s my post
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2003, 12:58:29 pm
In the interests of basic freedoms, I am reposting until whatever coward who blacked out my comments admits to doing it and offers an explanation as to why the comments should be blacked out that is sound enough to justify this action.
CAVEAT: MAJOR SPOILER. DO NOT RECOMMEND READING IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE.
ROTK? Eh. Two Towers was much better.
-Battle scenes in ROTK had some cool effects, but overall did not stack up with the battle of Helms Deep from Two Towers. Not even close. In ROTK, it\'s like, everything\'s chill, then next thing you know they\'re battling. The battle of Helms Deep had almost two hours leading up to it, and carried far more meaning.
-"I am no man" oh god, a blind man could see this coming all the way from Eisengard. Give me a break. I almost yakked.
-What is up with cheese factor 5 at the end of the movie? It should have ended five times. But it was just cheese cheese and more cheese. Sam\'s wedding scene? C\'mon... definitely did not need that.
-Distinct lacking of Liv Tyler and the Ents.
-The story itself is a letdown when nobody, not one single good guy, gets whacked. It\'s too good. Sam should have been forced to push Frodo into the pit with the ring. Now THAT\'S a story. I even would have settled for the lava washing them up when they\'re on the rock. Aragon should have gotten slain after they dispose of the ring, and never gotten to see his unborn child. The dark rider dude should have taken out Gandalf before getting plugged by the woman. OK, the King gets iced, big deal. The story lost power with being too tra-la-la.
Look, it\'s a really good movie, don\'t get me wrong, it just doesn\'t stack up with it\'s predecessors. Tough standards to live up to.
Title: Return of the King
Post by: Wolfman on December 22, 2003, 12:55:34 pm
Um... 2 questions...
1. Why did I get blacked out? Are we not entitled to our opinions? Saying PB is a horrible band in this forum would be one thing, but giving your honest opinion on a movie is not a big deal. Since when is this forum run like Iraq or something? Agree or be silenced...wow. Blacking out comments that are in no way insulting, hateful, or threatening PB is a serious threat to the integrity of this group.
2. Who blacked out my comments, and why are they too cowardly to admit to doing it and explaining why they did it?
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Post by: bluefunknebula on December 21, 2003, 03:17:21 am
just a semi-related point of possible interest:
go to aquariusrecords.org (http://www.aquariusrecords.org) search keyword bo hansson and scroll down to his record, lord of the rings. you can check out some samples of some old, mellow psychedelia "inspired" by the books.
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Post by: leith on December 21, 2003, 01:03:53 am
Tolkein\'s writing is very archaic and unless one is in the right frame of mind it is hard to latch onto. The LOTR trilogy is written in a manner drastically different than The Hobbit though so I suggest giving it a try.
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Post by: antbach on December 21, 2003, 12:20:22 am
blah, didn\'t even read any of the thread, but I just know that I\'ll personally hate the movie and probably will not see it for a long long time. I gave The Hobbit a valiant effort and also managed to get threw half at most, but I enjoy reading and have read the Potter series at least 4 times each, except Order. Guess LOTR is just personal preference
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Post by: leith on December 20, 2003, 08:27:10 pm
Yeah but you\'re screwy anyway. U haven\'t seen any of them anyway have u? What ? Answer that call damnit!
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Post by: Jtmirie on December 20, 2003, 05:10:50 pm
See Leith,not everyone read the books. Haha Im not the only one.
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Post by: leith on December 20, 2003, 02:29:06 pm
Wolf if you had read the books I may be more inclined to agree w/ you. Seeing your comments that got blacked out it is obvious u have not read them. ROTK has too much to wrap up for a 3hr. and 10min movie. The SFX in this movie far outdo either of the prior 2 movies. The battle scenes were spectacular in size. I admit some cheese in the lines and if Peter Jackson had stuck w/ the end of the book it would have been waaaaaay better . Believe It!!!!!!!!! Hey Freddie maybe if you learned how to read a little better your spelling would improve. Turn on Sesame St. once in awhile it seems to be your speed.
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Post by: freddiewaht on December 20, 2003, 11:11:10 am
people who read are lame!!!
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Post by: Wolfman on December 20, 2003, 03:19:09 am
CAVEAT: MAJOR SPOILER. DO NOT RECOMMEND READING IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE.
ROTK? Eh. Two Towers was much better.
-Battle scenes in ROTK had some cool effects, but overall did not stack up with the battle of Helms Deep from Two Towers. Not even close. In ROTK, it\'s like, everything\'s chill, then next thing you know they\'re battling. The battle of Helms Deep had almost two hours leading up to it, and carried far more meaning.
-"I am no man" oh god, a blind man could see this coming all the way from Eisengard. Give me a break. I almost yakked.
-What is up with cheese factor 5 at the end of the movie? It should have ended five times. But it was just cheese cheese and more cheese. Sam\'s wedding scene? C\'mon... definitely did not need that.
-Distinct lacking of Liv Tyler and the Ents.
-The story itself is a letdown when nobody, not one single good guy, gets whacked. It\'s too good. Sam should have been forced to push Frodo into the pit with the ring. Now THAT\'S a story. I even would have settled for the lava washing them up when they\'re on the rock. Aragon should have gotten slain after they dispose of the ring, and never gotten to see his unborn child. The dark rider dude should have taken out Gandalf before getting plugged by the woman. OK, the King gets iced, big deal. The story lost power with being too tra-la-la.
Look, it\'s a really good movie, don\'t get me wrong, it just doesn\'t stack up with it\'s predecessors. Tough standards to live up to.
Title: Return of the King
Post by: leith on December 19, 2003, 04:17:58 pm
Hey Yoda, my main point was that this book was the one really gutted. I have no real problem w/ the other 2 movies especially the xtended versions but leaving out whole chapters is different than leaving out scenes within chapters. I agree on the whole i am grateful to Peter Jackson for bringing these books to life. You can tell he is a fan because Everyone I talk to that has read the books has said the same thing " When I watch these movies, it\'s like Peter Jackson read my mind because everything is exactly as I pictured it ". I was just saying that beware, we all know that you can not cram all of the books in and you have to make it for the masses who do not read or just haven\'t read these books but this film left out more than the other 2 did. That\'s all. By all means everyone go see it having read the books or not . Great movie.
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Post by: bluefunknebula on December 19, 2003, 12:57:08 pm
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Originally posted by davepeck i have all the books, and tried to force myself to read them (i really hate reading!), and i only got halfway through the hobbit...
haha!! i\'m so glad the movies came out for the same reason...i like to read, but i got the hobbit and trilogy when i was a kid...and all i did was study the cool maps that were included in the books...never made it through a complete book. i feel like a moron, but i just could never get into reading them. i think i have a phobia of 600 page books that don\'t have lots of illustration. i even told myself i was gonna dig em out when the movies were being made...they\'re still packed away somewhere :(
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Post by: Yoda on December 19, 2003, 12:54:51 pm
I agree with you about some important scenes from the book being left out of the movie, but that has been a problem for Tolkien purists throughout the course of the three movies. There is just too much going on in the books to portray everything in the movies. If it was done that way, each movie would be at least 5 hours. I\'d be pretty happy with what we got. For a budget of $330 million, Jackson created three great movies, where Titanic cost nearly $200 million, I think and it was probably one of the worst movies I have seen since Bones! I for for one have read the books and several other Tolkien books. I am happy with the representation.
For anyone who has read the books, go see the movie with an open mind and don\'t look for a carbon copy, word for word, because you won\'t get it, which is the case for 99.9% of all books that are turned into movies.
For those of you haven\'t read the books, enjoy the movie for what it is and pick up the book if you get a chance.
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Post by: leith on December 19, 2003, 12:46:47 pm
You should be psyched. It does rock and not knowing what is going to happen has only got to make it that much more exciting. As for reading, unless u are an avid reader Tolkein is hard to grasp and gets very boring. Have fun Dave and pls leave the costumed fanboys alone they only want to see the movie too :)
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Post by: davepeck on December 19, 2003, 12:35:23 pm
good thing i hate to read! :D
i have all the books, and tried to force myself to read them (i really hate reading!), and i only got halfway through the hobbit...
that said, rotk tonight at 9pm for me, and i\'m psyched...
Title: Return of the King
Post by: leith on December 19, 2003, 12:31:57 pm
So out of all three, the book that has the most to offer gets GUTTED. Great movie if u have not read the books but if u have read them, u may be upset at the amt taken out. I understand that all 3 movies get the added footage upon DVD release but not this one. Peter Jackson did not even shoot many important sections of the book. If he was to add even a modicum of the missing sections the DVD would be @ least an 1 hr and 15min longer. Overall xcellent film. Could have used a bit more Mithrandir magic but can\'t have it all. Only 3hr and 10min long not so bad.