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Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: derickw on February 05, 2008, 11:24:55 am
alright how about this.

get 2-3 prints made up. one for the lighting fund the other for the merch table fund.

let the raffle begin.

It would probably make the most sense to do them during the 4-20 shows seeing as how they will be the best attended shows. Maybe i\'ll make one for the Daniel Street shows and have the last show as the give away day.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: tyzack on February 05, 2008, 09:37:51 am
Are we going to start a collection?

The merc table has been lacking, but I\'d toss 5 bucks into a bucket for a light upgrade...
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: derickw on February 05, 2008, 08:28:36 am
Quote from: obsession600;178682
Adding some fabric backdrops is a cheap, quick, portable, flexible way to help round out Ellis\' part of the show. I would think he would be all over this idea. Stuff like this can be done for very cheap if you get creative. If you use multiple small/medium size pieces then it is easy to pare down for small venues and scale up for larger places.

exactly
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: obsession600 on February 04, 2008, 09:27:57 am
Adding some fabric backdrops is a cheap, quick, portable, flexible way to help round out Ellis\' part of the show. I would think he would be all over this idea. Stuff like this can be done for very cheap if you get creative. If you use multiple small/medium size pieces then it is easy to pare down for small venues and scale up for larger places.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: freddiewaht on February 03, 2008, 04:07:39 pm
supposedly,iheard that huffin balloons may result to crashing into closets and **** up your ribs..
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: Klout on February 03, 2008, 03:49:13 pm
"Nitrogen dioxide is toxic by inhalation. Symptoms of poisoning (lung edema) tend to appear several hours after one has inhaled a low but potentially fatal dose. Also, low concentrations (4 ppm) will anesthetize the nose, thus creating a potential for overexposure."


hehehhee

so ellis may die but there is a potential for an OE
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: freddiewaht on February 03, 2008, 03:43:43 pm
Quote from: Klout;178613
nitrogen dioxide?

dingdingding
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: Klout on February 03, 2008, 03:41:43 pm
nitrogen dioxide?
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: freddiewaht on February 03, 2008, 03:31:49 pm
Quote from: Klout;178610
disapointing retort, brosephina.

getting back on topic though...

I would like to see more intellilights added to upstates arsenal and stationed in a more spread out set up, along with more smoke making capabilities and more high powered strobe lights :D


<<< told ellisd last night that i thought it would be kinda cool to see him huffin no2 while doin the lights..
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: Klout on February 03, 2008, 02:24:21 pm
disapointing retort, brosephina.

getting back on topic though...

I would like to see more intellilights added to upstates arsenal and stationed in a more spread out set up, along with more smoke making capabilities and more high powered strobe lights :D
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: ChrisF on February 03, 2008, 01:57:44 pm
save side fo\' life, broseph.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: Klout on February 03, 2008, 01:38:54 pm
Quote from: ChrisF;178595
i guess that makes sense. if you are someone who doesnt care how they make those sounds with their instruments.

WELL to be fair I guess your point of view also makes sense if your someone who considers 70 straight minutes of unbroken, unblinking eye contact with timmy\'s crotch  an absolute essential for enjoying a set.  To each his own, Freak.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: freddiewaht on February 03, 2008, 12:16:31 pm
lotta potential in this thread
chris fitz=blowin FLAMES
klout=PWNED OFF LOT AS PER
zoinks!!
:wah:
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: ChrisF on February 03, 2008, 11:27:01 am
i guess that makes sense. if you are someone who doesnt care how they make those sounds with their instruments.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: Klout on February 03, 2008, 11:04:15 am
*lights in my eyes*

"Hmmm....I wonder what the band is doing right now?"

Wow they are still playing their instruments....amazing..I would have never guessed.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: ChrisF on February 03, 2008, 05:57:10 am
or eat as much lsd as klout until you think flashing lights in the dark is even more heady than seeing what the band is doing.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: Klout on February 02, 2008, 11:53:56 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb;178408

 i just don\'t like lights in my eyes/not being able to see the band.


BOO HOO

SUCK IT UP

GET YOURSELF A PAIR OF BLUE-BLOCKERS IF YOU CANT HANG
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: freddiewaht on February 01, 2008, 07:22:32 am
Quote from: BennyBoomers;178340
Ellis rules.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: ChrisF on February 01, 2008, 07:04:51 am
summer 2005
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: tyzack on February 01, 2008, 06:31:29 am
Quote from: leith;178328
Ellis is obsessed with becoming the next Kuroda. He just does not have the toys so he overcompensates. When he has a rig that is decent, he is not nearly so annoying. Toad\'s shows are a great example as he knows the rig and has what he needs to create a great show w/o being so flashy flashy.

I enjoyed the wheelhouse lighting, and stone chruch.

Quote from: Jim Cobb;178408
Quote from: BennyBoomers;178340
Ellis rules.

totally.  after rereading my other posts, i think i came across too critical.  i\'m not trying to bash ellis\' skills as a lighting designer.  let me just say, i think he does a fabulous job. the kid\'s definitely got chops, i just don\'t like lights in my eyes/not being able to see the band.  just one man\'s opinion.  but seriously, i would love to see what he\'d do with a nicer rig.

BIG UPS TO GREG ELLIS.

breakfast shows pre ellis < breakfast shows post ellis

When did he start?
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: Jim Cobb on January 31, 2008, 11:43:51 pm
Quote from: BennyBoomers;178340
Ellis rules.

totally.  after rereading my other posts, i think i came across too critical.  i\'m not trying to bash ellis\' skills as a lighting designer.  let me just say, i think he does a fabulous job. the kid\'s definitely got chops, i just don\'t like lights in my eyes/not being able to see the band.  just one man\'s opinion.  but seriously, i would love to see what he\'d do with a nicer rig.

BIG UPS TO GREG ELLIS.

breakfast shows pre ellis < breakfast shows post ellis
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: derickw on January 31, 2008, 02:37:54 pm
it would be a nice separator from the back of the stage and whatever gear/random **** is back there. just like 3 or 4 hanging backdrops would look pretty sick
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: jocelyn on January 31, 2008, 02:20:22 pm
I think Leith is right. I see absolutely no reason to not improve the show-goer\'s experience if it can be done for a reasonable amount of money and effort. A better, more complete experience will help keep new fans coming back.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: leith on January 31, 2008, 02:17:09 pm
Quote from: Yoda;178337
I\'m not underestimating a light show.  I personally think that you need to get people in before you spend money and set up time on a light show.  Let\'s not put the cart before the horse.

At this level a lighting show is a BIG draw.  It also gives a bit more credence to a band than one w/o a "full show".
Besides they already have a lighting show and their fulltime LD already puts time into setting up his show and this would not add that much more time.
Having seen the direct effect of adding lighting to bands and seeing the increase of interest in those bands I think it would be a great idea and think that it would be just another way to get more heads to shows.

Better idea than you have come up with in this thread.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: BennyBoomers on January 31, 2008, 02:12:58 pm
Ellis rules.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: Yoda on January 31, 2008, 02:02:33 pm
I\'m not underestimating a light show.  I personally think that you need to get people in before you spend money and set up time on a light show.  Let\'s not put the cart before the horse.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: leith on January 31, 2008, 01:54:53 pm
Quote from: SlimPickens;178289
Quote from: leith;178279
He could have some cool tension fabric or muslin material in his arch or as a backdrop behind the arch.
It would give him more depth to work with and maybe decrease the audience eye damage from his flashy flashy style. ;)

not sure I understand, do you have a photo example?

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Those hanging pieces of fabric are Transformit brand tension fabric. Basically spandex. More expensive so probably more down the line. Muslin is a tougher fabric not stretchable as the tension fabric but with the right size piece he can still make a backdrop to work off of.
I just may know someone that already has one but it may be going to another band.

Quote from: Yoda;178307
I think they need to start getting more heads to shows before they worry about creating the utlimate light show, unless someone is going to donate the equipment to the band.

You underestimate the value and pull of a full fledged lighting show.
 Besides these things I mentioned are far from the "ultimate light show" but rather an inexpensive way(Muslin) to fill out the set design now and give the crowd more for their money. While thinking about the future and the possibilities.

Quote from: tyzack;178324
Quote from: FreeSpirit;178320
Quote from: Jim Cobb;178299
man, ANYTHING to reduce the rate at which my retinas roast would be really rad.

:lol: I personally like my eyes flashing from the lights after the show... it hits me as hard as the music did!  ;)

I agree, it\'s like those old reviews of the grateful dead "an assult on all your senses"

The flashing of the lights to my eyes goes well with the bombardment of my eyes by the notes.

Candace\'s lighting was never as annoying and aggressive as Ellis\' lighting style.

No Way No How.
If anything that woman created huge palettes of color to accentuate the music being played and eased one\'s eye and helped create mood just as much as the band. She is still doing that with WSP now.
What those reviews were talking about were the untrained anybodies that would
just flash lights while tripping balls at Acid trips and the such. Ellis is not just an anybody and has come a long way but......

Ellis is obsessed with becoming the next Kuroda. He just does not have the toys so he overcompensates. When he has a rig that is decent, he is not nearly so annoying. Toad\'s shows are a great example as he knows the rig and has what he needs to create a great show w/o being so flashy flashy.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: tyzack on January 31, 2008, 01:43:12 pm
Quote from: FreeSpirit;178320
Quote from: Jim Cobb;178299
man, ANYTHING to reduce the rate at which my retinas roast would be really rad.

:lol: I personally like my eyes flashing from the lights after the show... it hits me as hard as the music did!  ;)

I agree, it\'s like those old reviews of the grateful dead "an assult on all your senses"

The flashing of the lights to my eyes goes well with the bombardment of my eyes by the notes.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: FreeSpirit on January 31, 2008, 01:04:47 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb;178299
man, ANYTHING to reduce the rate at which my retinas roast would be really rad.

:lol: I personally like my eyes flashing from the lights after the show... it hits me as hard as the music did!  ;)
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: Yoda on January 31, 2008, 11:27:14 am
I think they need to start getting more heads to shows before they worry about creating the utlimate light show, unless someone is going to donate the equipment to the band.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: BennyBoomers on January 31, 2008, 10:40:55 am
They need a light board like the Biscuits...
 
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Unfortunately, I think its out of their price range
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: Jim Cobb on January 31, 2008, 10:17:54 am
man, ANYTHING to reduce the rate at which my retinas roast would be really rad.
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: derickw on January 31, 2008, 09:31:49 am
Quote from: SlimPickens;178289
Quote from: leith;178279
He could have some cool tension fabric or muslin material in his arch or as a backdrop behind the arch.
It would give him more depth to work with and maybe decrease the audience eye damage from his flashy flashy style. ;)

not sure I understand, do you have a photo example?

http://www.pictureline.com/category.php?cid=134

or were you talking about
Quote
his flashy flashy style. ;)
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: SlimPickens on January 31, 2008, 08:34:06 am
Quote from: leith;178279
He could have some cool tension fabric or muslin material in his arch or as a backdrop behind the arch.
It would give him more depth to work with and maybe decrease the audience eye damage from his flashy flashy style. ;)

not sure I understand, do you have a photo example?
Title: Ellis should add to his set design.
Post by: leith on January 31, 2008, 02:56:37 am
He could have some cool tension fabric or muslin material in his arch or as a backdrop behind the arch.
It would give him more depth to work with and maybe decrease the audience eye damage from his flashy flashy style. ;)