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General Discussions => Tribal Funk Affliction => Topic started by: Vassillios on November 30, 2007, 01:01:01 am
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yeah most would put that show in the epic category...that would be the 2nd set with that combo your talking about
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ok i\'ll give some credit to the august \'93 crowd now...
jonathan schwartz just played 8/14/93 on gone phishin\' tonight and i gotta say it was off the hook. somethin like 2001>antelope>sparks>walk away>antelope>have mercy>antelope... fuckin crazzzeeeeee
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any one i was at, couldn\'t have been that great if the greatness wasn\'t there to take it in. 6/30/00 the Meadows, since thats where I started my tour de force.
that show was sick, so was second night. my friend went 7/1 for his first show. liquid + boomers = lost his ****, thought he could fly, and ran naked into the crowd above the seats at the beginning of set 2. the glowstick war during first tube was something he wasn\'t ready to handle with a head full of drugs. emts found him and brought him to hartford hospital where he flipped out for the rest of the night. i had the same headful, and that swept away>steep was brutally glorious. anywho, i called him up the week after and asked him if he wanted to do fall tour. he said yes without hesitating.
man, i don\'t like getting nostalgic about this band; so much more than just the music, it\'s hard to look back at it all. alright, sorry for blubbering. just wondering if anyone got run over by a naked samoan at that show, and if so, sorry we didn\'t have a tighter reign on him.
vegas fall \'00? night 1 [and obviously night 2]? just puttin\' it out there. all was good until kid "****" rock showed up. love "spock\'s brain"
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As for best 2 set shows...I am a huge fan of 1998-12-29. Night 2 of a 4 night new years run.
Anyone else hit up this run? I was only 17 and took a Greyhound bus down to the city with a couple of my friends. Good times.
Wow booz we\'ve been living the same life. I was 18 and took the Greyhound bus from Boston for that run too. 12/29/98 is indeed a great, great show. Right out of the gate Page SHREDS the vox on Rock N Roll and you can taste the greatness in the air...
Haha, that\'s awesome! I had to bail on the 3 night Worcester shows a month earlier so I could afford the new years run. While 1998-11-27 is an amazing show, I don\'t regret my decision.
Big Cypress was probably the pinnacle of band/fan experiences. We squeezed 6 people in a rented 80\'s Caravan and drove non-stop from north NJ to Miami. I was stuck in the middle row with my friend and neither of us had a headrest. It didn\'t matter though. This trip is when my ears were opened up to good music. I recall James Brown - Star Time (4 CD box set) was played in its entirety from late in the night until sunrise. It totally wiped out any knowledge I had for what \'good\' music was and gave me a new insight on musical appreciation. Then Big Cypress went down and I couldn\'t believe what I had witnessed. Fortunately I was prepared for the midnight to sunrise set with 8g of Oregon Blue Caps.
Chasing that same high I went to Deer Creek and Columbus (5 shows) in Summer of 2000. We settled in a night early for Phil and Friends w/ Bob Dylan as an opener (I think). The setup was like a mini-festival which created a huge buzz around the camp grounds. The Moby Dick show was a blast! The only thing I have against it was how much of a pain in the ass it was to keep a setlist that night...especially on shrooms.
In 2003 I did something that not many other people can claim. I saw Phish play in all 4 corners of the U.S. that year. Summer tour I caught the first 6 shows in Phoenix, San Diego, Mtn. View, the Gorge and then IT to close out the tour. Then the 4 night run in Miami for new years. While none of it contained any epic shows, I had a great time meeting new people and seeing the country.
SPAC 2004 was probably the peak of post-hiatus. I highly recommend night two set two to anyone who has not heard it.
Anyone go to the Clifford Ball or Great Went?
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Maybe it\'s because I\'m a WHO fan, I feel that 10/31/95 was one of their best shows and definitely the best Halloween cover show. If there is a low point of that show for me, it would have to be the My Generation hoe-down, but who am I to complain.
I also really enjoyed 10/9/99, but again there is a WHO tie-in to that show as well.
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hey now I was not putting anyone down or telling anyone they suck!
poorly communicated interweb sarcasm, forgot to add my smilies and winkies
Do I need to hold your hand and break it down for you like a small child? (haha)
Seriously tho I am just astonished that besides leith, no one even MENTIONED NYE or the month that lead up to it. Everyone I know holds both in the highest regards.
12/31/95 was arguably the pinnacle of their entire careers.
Every show in that month was just the perfect balance of uber-tightness, balls to the walls rock and roll, and epicness. They really let loose like never before but kept it tight. You can literally put in ANY show from that month and it will be at least 9/10 performance.
"12/31/95 was one of several crucial peaks that Phish hit over their years, and many (probably myself included) consider this particular peak a notch above the rest. Don’t get me wrong…their other peaks were certainly worthy of nothing but gushing praise (plenty of August 93, Nov 94 Fall 97 & the Island Tour for example) but 12/31/95 rode the perfect plane between flawlessly executed composed sections nailed with dead-on precision, and reckless experimental abandon that explored moments of trancendence that were questioning and profound at the same time. “Tentative” was an adjective absent from Phish’s vernacular in December 1995. Their playing revealed a sense of urgency (not to be confused with hurried which has a different qualitative energy) and deftness of touch that changed into something slightly looser after this show. So more than just being a totally over-the-top performance, I believe this show has historical significance and it marks both a completion and a beginning for the band." -Syd Schwartz
I have aud mp3 of the whole month maybe I can do a torrent somewhere if anyone is really never given it a listen.
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any one i was at, couldn\'t have been that great if the greatness wasn\'t there to take it in. 6/30/00 the Meadows, since thats where I started my tour de force.
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the total lack of respect for december 95 and 12/31/95 here is despicable people.
The only despicable thing are people who can\'t talk about Phish without putting down others.
There is awesome Phish chatter going on here Klout. Why don\'t you contribute to that? I know you\'re capable of excellent elaboration on shows, so give us some. Everyone posting clearly knows what they are talking about and has great insights into their favorite shows and eras. Don\'t be that guy who just drops some date, says nothing about it, tells everyone else they suck, and disappears...you\'re better than that.
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yeah gordo, we can work something out..ill let you know
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or one of them was over at the toy store too at some point and saw the same toy and had teh same idea. definitely possible.
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11.27.98 is fantastic, i agree. it\'s got a different mood altogether, or at least it always has for me.
gordo, yeah i can get you that show...will you be at toads? im getting wolfman a copy on discs for toads and if youll be there i can get that to you too. just give me like a dollar to cover the cost of the discs.
i live in chicago my man. so, uhh, no i won\'t be there unfortunately. if you\'re down for an old fashioned bubble-mailer trades-a-doodle that\'d be cool. i could burn you a breakfast show that you don\'t have, orrr whatever else man.. let me know.
I\'ve always had 2 best shows: 2/20/93 and 11/27/98. They\'re both on all the heavyweight lists in any reputable Phish source. I think 2/20/93 II is the craziest set ever, it\'s beautiful, flawless, weird, frightening, dark, and inexplicable all at once. There\'s no other set like it. But nothing happened first set at that show. 11/27/98 is money start to finish. There are much better recordings available of 11/27/98 (including LivePhish) and I was there, so that gives it an unfair advantage, but it\'s a true 2-set show.
i really was not going to add anything to this thread, but then this show had to be brought up. i was there too, but the funny part was, some friends and i were in the mall across the street before the show in the kaybee toy store or whatever they had over there. anyway, the trend at the time were those giggly ball things with the rubbery nubbins that when you switched \'em on, they\'d jitter around, and the one on display was playing wipeout. we started joking around, wondering if phish had ever thought to cover that song, and what a good song it would be to whip outta nowhere to stir up the crowd. we talked about it for a while and the song was in our heads before we went into the show...
then that night happened and i lost my flippin\' marbles. i have never felt the same about that band since. super-fuckin magical or someone was followin\' us and listening in, i\'ll never know but yeah, wolf, i agree there is no best, but this show was my favorite.
That\'s ridiculous man! Seriously, maybe Fishman was playing with Cabbage Patch Dolls in the next aisle and you never saw him. Really, that\'s insane.
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I\'ve always had 2 best shows: 2/20/93 and 11/27/98. They\'re both on all the heavyweight lists in any reputable Phish source. I think 2/20/93 II is the craziest set ever, it\'s beautiful, flawless, weird, frightening, dark, and inexplicable all at once. There\'s no other set like it. But nothing happened first set at that show. 11/27/98 is money start to finish. There are much better recordings available of 11/27/98 (including LivePhish) and I was there, so that gives it an unfair advantage, but it\'s a true 2-set show.
i really was not going to add anything to this thread, but then this show had to be brought up. i was there too, but the funny part was, some friends and i were in the mall across the street before the show in the kaybee toy store or whatever they had over there. anyway, the trend at the time were those giggly ball things with the rubbery nubbins that when you switched \'em on, they\'d jitter around, and the one on display was playing wipeout. we started joking around, wondering if phish had ever thought to cover that song, and what a good song it would be to whip outta nowhere to stir up the crowd. we talked about it for a while and the song was in our heads before we went into the show...
then that night happened and i lost my flippin\' marbles. i have never felt the same about that band since. super-fuckin magical or someone was followin\' us and listening in, i\'ll never know but yeah, wolf, i agree there is no best, but this show was my favorite.
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the total lack of respect for december 95 and 12/31/95 here is despicable people.
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the bass riff gordo plays right after trey cuts out of his blazing guitar solo in YEM red rocks 94 is the greatest thing he ever played. its the closest thing to rap phish ever busted out, its so head-banging-dank!
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yep! and its real hard to find a better SOAM than this one... with the BC one being a close second...
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ohh, yeah i remember that now...its not really the song itself though..just the guitar riff...and red rocks, both 93 and 94 are unbelievable shows...my top 3 fave YEM in the 94 one...great rift version, great antelope, awesome DWD, scent is spot on. the 93 show is awesome too, rediclous YEM, halarious harpua...
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actrually, they definitely jam on midnight rider during 6/22.94 and then sing catapult over it, too... it shows up two or three times during all that craziness...
Wednesday, June 22, 1994
Veterans Music Hall, Columbus, OH
Set I: Llama, Guelah Papyrus, Rift, Gumbo > Maze, If I Could, Scent of a Mule, Stash, Golgi Apparatus
Set II: Also Sprach Zarathustra > Mike\'s Song -> Simple -> Midnight Rider Jam -> Catapult -> Simple -> Icculus, Simple -> Mike\'s Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove -> The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday > Avenu Malkenu > The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday Reprise > Digital Delay Loop Jam > Fluffhead, My Sweet One, Big Ball Jam > Jesus Just Left Chicago, Sample in a Jar
Encore: Carolina, Cavern
Show Notes: My Sweet One was performed acoustic and, along with Carolina, without microphones. Catapult was sung over the Midnight Rider jam. Icculus was played for the first time since March 25, 1993 (126 shows).
i\'ve decided that 6/11/94 is my single favorite show, though... pure heatfrom beginning to end!!
Saturday, June 11, 1994
Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison, CO
Set I: Wilson > Chalk Dust Torture, You Enjoy Myself -> Rift, Down with Disease, It\'s Ice > Tela, Stash
Set II: Also Sprach Zarathustra > Run Like an Antelope, Fluffhead, Scent of a Mule, Split Open and Melt, The Squirming Coil, Maze, Contact > Frankenstein
Encore: Suzy Greenberg
Show Notes: This show marked the breakout of Frankenstein, which hadn\'t been played since July 26, 1991 (326 shows). This version of SOAM is a fan favorite. Fluffhead was played after a group of screaming fans had been requesting it for the entire beginning of the show. Antelope included a tease of the Odd Couple theme.
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some comments about things people just wrote...
vassillios...that set you are thinking of might be the 6-22-94 2nd set..they dont play midnight rider, but they play in and out of simple several times and eventually get to fluffhead (icculus is in there too)
gordo, yeah i can get you that show...will you be at toads? im getting wolfman a copy on discs for toads and if youll be there i can get that to you too. just give me like a dollar to cover the cost of the discs.
wolfman, the 2-20-93 is one of my top 10 shows...great great show with a massive setlist.
other gems of shows for me indlude...rochester 1997-12-11 (my favorite maze and tied fave DWD with 1994-11-12 kent, OH), 1993-5-5 (INSANE, at palace theater in my own albany, ny...aquarium rescue unit sits in a few songs, a MUST HEAR), and 1991-4-27, ANY of the 1990/1991 colorado run shows.
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As for best 2 set shows...I am a huge fan of 1998-12-29. Night 2 of a 4 night new years run.
Anyone else hit up this run? I was only 17 and took a Greyhound bus down to the city with a couple of my friends. Good times.
Wow booz we\'ve been living the same life. I was 18 and took the Greyhound bus from Boston for that run too. 12/29/98 is indeed a great, great show. Right out of the gate Page SHREDS the vox on Rock N Roll and you can taste the greatness in the air...
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There\'s no "hands down" or "end of discussion" anything when it comes to Best-Of-Phish; it\'s eternaly debatable and that\'s the beauty of it. Make a case for anything you want, but could everyone stop acting like it\'s so...simple ;) \'Cause it\'s not.
I\'ve always had 2 best shows: 2/20/93 and 11/27/98. They\'re both on all the heavyweight lists in any reputable Phish source. I think 2/20/93 II is the craziest set ever, it\'s beautiful, flawless, weird, frightening, dark, and inexplicable all at once. There\'s no other set like it. But nothing happened first set at that show. 11/27/98 is money start to finish. There are much better recordings available of 11/27/98 (including LivePhish) and I was there, so that gives it an unfair advantage, but it\'s a true 2-set show.
5/7/94 is not my personal best-ever but it is certainly an A++++ show and has to be mentioned in any discussion of best show.
My favorite years have always been 93 and 98. They\'re completely different eras and sounds. 93 was such a breakout year when they really started to get ballsy with seguing ANYTHING, going off into uncharted jam waters, doing crazy stuff, and just packing heat every night. A great sleeper show that doesn\'t make most lists is 12/30/93 from Portland, ME. 93 was still the Trey-led-jam era before they really got good at teamwork, and it is the best of that sound IMO. Plus, as ds mentioned, they NEVER made mistakes. They nail every note of every tune every night with inhuman efficiency. Trey must\'ve been a damn drill seargent at practice.
\'98 was the last year they really just had it all together. They had such a huge catalog of tunes and could pull any out. They had the "funk" jams along with the other jams, the chemistry, the huge tunes, the ballads, everything was working. It was when they really had it all. You can make a good case that any year 93-97 had a better overall package of shows than 98, but 98 brought together everything they ever were and they totally peaked, before things started to get different in 99.
Phish shows really were the best.
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actually, as far as muscianship went, 94 is pretty pinnacle.
Thank you.
I don\'t know MUCH about \'93 and I\'m sure there were some great ones (\'94 and earlier are the best Phish years) but I have heard a lot of \'94 and the spontaneity was just so incredible. Is this when they started going into shows without setlists?
don\'t remember the date or the setlist exactly, but its one of the live phish releases,
something like mikes->simple->midnight rider->simple->hydrogen->weekapaug-> fluffhead
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give me august 1993 over almost anything in 1994.
Dave have you heard this one? This is my 2nd show I believe. I had just come off 5 nights of Grateful Dead and this one show blew all 5 outta the water!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It\'s the Summer Tour ender and it **** rips! I became a Phan at this show big time!
08-28-93 Greek Theater, University of California, Berkeley, CA
Soundcheck: Ginseng Sullivan, Funky ****, Nellie Cane
1: Llama, Bouncing Around the Room, Foam, Ginseng Sullivan, Maze-> Fluffhead-> Stash, The Squirming Coil, Crimes of the Mind*
2: Also Sprach Zarathustra-> Rift, Run Like an Antelope**, The Horse-> Silent in the Morning, Sparkle, It\'s Ice-> Big Ball Jam, Purple Rain^-> HYHU, You Enjoy Myself#, Contact, Chalk Dust Torture
E: Daniel, Amazing Grace
With J.J. Cale opening. *With the Dude of Life. **With "Brady Bunch" theme beginning. ^With vacuum. #With "Oye Como Va" (Santana) jam.
:drool: :drool: :drool:
dave (that is ds-dave), id love a copy of the NYE \'93 show.
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now that i am back and able to comment on this, i would like to. 1993 is phish\'s best year for a lot of reasons. this was the year that the band began to break out into larger theater venues, but still had not done extensive national touring like they began to do in spring of 1994. in my opinion, 1994 was where the compositional tightness of the band began to faulter, probably because of the band having less time to practice with all of the far travel for touring. 1992 was the pinnacle of tighness for the band...they literally never mess anything up this year or do anything sloppy. 1993 was basically the same, but this year they added much more sophisticated sounds/energy to their jams, while still maintaining 100% the integrity of the compositions. although 1994 has more energy/experimenting in jams, this came with a price in that you begin to see slippage of some of the difficult parts.
with that said, MUSICALLY my pick for the greatest phish show is 12/31/93 at the worcester centrum. every, every, every song on the setlist is nailed to perfection. The setlist is a monster, and peaches en regalia teases are evident in several of the songs. The harry hood in this show to close the 3rd set before tweeprise is the greatest hood phish ever played. It is a masterwork that gives me goosebumps every time. the buildup is perfectly linear in the jam and it rises to unprecedented heights, trey is absolutely on fire. other highlights (basically the whole show is one big highlight) include YEM (one of my top 5 fave versions), a FACE MELTING possum (one of my top 3 favs), reba is immaculate (one of my top 5 versions), and very solid versions abound (antelope, suzy greenberg, its ice, fee, soam)...one of the best parts in the show is right after auld lang syne the band busts out into a DWD jam that melts serious face. the whole show is a work of art. if anyone doesnt have it that wants it, i have a great soundboard of it.
one last thing. i said this was MUSICALLY the best show of all time. however, if you want to add in that "X factor" that makes a show magical for so many other reasons, then big cypress has to be listed as the greatest phish show of all time. i need not go into this, but those of you who were there, you know why im saying this.
some of the chinese years of phish songs (just for laughs):
1990 - the year of the my sweet one
1991 - the year of the destiny unbound
1992 - the year of the mound
1994 - the year of the rift (i LOVE 1994 rift versions)
1997 - the year of the down with disease
1999 - the year of the meatstick
2003 - the year of the seven below
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give me august 1993 over almost anything in 1994.
Dave have you heard this one? This is my 2nd show I believe. I had just come off 5 nights of Grateful Dead and this one show blew all 5 outta the water!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It\'s the Summer Tour ender and it **** rips! I became a Phan at this show big time!
08-28-93 Greek Theater, University of California, Berkeley, CA
Soundcheck: Ginseng Sullivan, Funky ****, Nellie Cane
1: Llama, Bouncing Around the Room, Foam, Ginseng Sullivan, Maze-> Fluffhead-> Stash, The Squirming Coil, Crimes of the Mind*
2: Also Sprach Zarathustra-> Rift, Run Like an Antelope**, The Horse-> Silent in the Morning, Sparkle, It\'s Ice-> Big Ball Jam, Purple Rain^-> HYHU, You Enjoy Myself#, Contact, Chalk Dust Torture
E: Daniel, Amazing Grace
With J.J. Cale opening. *With the Dude of Life. **With "Brady Bunch" theme beginning. ^With vacuum. #With "Oye Como Va" (Santana) jam.
pretty sure. it\'s been a while since i\'ve looked at my phish hard drives, but i\'m pretty positive i have all of summer 1993 on there. may have to do some revisiting soon.
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actually, as far as muscianship went, 94 is pretty pinnacle. 97 introduced the lazy white boy watered down \'funk\' that eventually caused everything that had once been great to deteriorate. in 93 they were still wildly experimenting with what they could pull off and august is a brilliant example of that. 95 they spent learning how to play arenas and by december, they had learned. but in 94 they were playing at the peak of their abilities in rooms that were comfortable, familiar sizes. 6/11 and 6/22/94 both screaming as ragers! if you listen to mike and fish, their playing is FAR funkier than anything to happen in later years. fishman especially! post hiatus had some great songs/jams per show, but VERY few great shows.
i can\'t give you a single greatest show, but most of 94 beats the hell out of most of every other year. though every other year does have its highlight months or runs.
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give me august 1993 over almost anything in 1994.
Dave have you heard this one? This is my 2nd show I believe. I had just come off 5 nights of Grateful Dead and this one show blew all 5 outta the water!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It\'s the Summer Tour ender and it **** rips! I became a Phan at this show big time!
08-28-93 Greek Theater, University of California, Berkeley, CA
Soundcheck: Ginseng Sullivan, Funky ****, Nellie Cane
1: Llama, Bouncing Around the Room, Foam, Ginseng Sullivan, Maze-> Fluffhead-> Stash, The Squirming Coil, Crimes of the Mind*
2: Also Sprach Zarathustra-> Rift, Run Like an Antelope**, The Horse-> Silent in the Morning, Sparkle, It\'s Ice-> Big Ball Jam, Purple Rain^-> HYHU, You Enjoy Myself#, Contact, Chalk Dust Torture
E: Daniel, Amazing Grace
With J.J. Cale opening. *With the Dude of Life. **With "Brady Bunch" theme beginning. ^With vacuum. #With "Oye Como Va" (Santana) jam.
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while most phans will disagree about what the best show ever actually is...most will agree it was definitively NOT played at the bomb factory.
Most of 94 was a pretty great though.
As mentioned august 93 was also stellar stretch.
The end of fall tour 97 of course gets a nod also.
But the best month is phish history hands down is December 95.
Every show that month is sick and culminates in 12/31/95 which is at least top three all time.
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I was lucky enough to get tickets to all 4 shows through mail order and I thought that 12/29 we the best out of the run. The show is available at the link below.
http://www.momadance.com/music/1998%20-%209%20Shows/12-29-98%20MSG/
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give me august 1993 over almost anything in 1994.
August \'93 is easily my favorite 1 month stretch they played.
As for best 2 set shows...I am a huge fan of 1998-12-29. Night 2 of a 4 night new years run.
12-29-98 Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
1: Rock and Roll > Funky ****, Punch You in the Eye > Horn, Ginseng Sullivan, Split Open and Melt, Brian and Robert, Guyute*, My Soul, Freebird** (1:08)
2: Free, Limb by Limb+ -> Also Sprach Zarathustra++, Boogie On Reggae Woman, You Enjoy Myself (1:15)
E: The Divided Sky (0:17)
Basically a 3 song opener. Solid Split mid set. Rockin Free, one of the best 2001 they did. It clocks in at ~17 minutes and drops nicely into Boogie. Very solid YEM. Divided Sky encore and the place was going nuts.
Anyone else hit up this run? I was only 17 and took a Greyhound bus down to the city with a couple of my friends. Good times.
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i agree, 1993...i cant talk now but i have many many reasons for this...ill explain later
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fall 97.
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6-22-94
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i agree dave, my two favorites are 5-6-93(just great!) and halloween 96\'(**** sick!).
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give me august 1993 over almost anything in 1994.
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well if you could, please, elaborate. i think it\'s impossible to say which was their best year, \'94 was definitely wonderful. but ****, \'89 through \'00 = :thumbsup: and i definitely saw some great shows post-hiatus, regardless of everyone\'s bitching.
Elaborate? Sure.
5/7/94 has an incredible 2nd set with the Tweezer and all the teases but the rest of the show is not as hot.
Saying \'94 was their best year is ridiculous esp. with Phish as they more than most bands experimented with their sound from year to year. They had not even explored how funky they could get in \'94.
Their Peak in \'94? Laughable. They had not even hit Europe with a proper tour, hit the maturity in songwriting they achieved with Billy Breathes and Clifford Ball was probably just a vague idea in \'94.
The best Phish show is highly subjective for sure but you really have to come up with a show that is stellar throughout and not just for one set.
Yeah it\'s easy for me to say Big Cypress NYE was their best show but then I think of 12/6/96 and 12/31/95 and 4/16/92 and... you get the picture.
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well if you could, please, elaborate. i think it\'s impossible to say which was their best year, \'94 was definitely wonderful. but ****, \'89 through \'00 = :thumbsup: and i definitely saw some great shows post-hiatus, regardless of everyone\'s bitching.
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\'94 was neither their best year or their peak and 5/7/94 is notable for pretty much the second set only. One set does not make a best show ever.
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I saw the thread title and immediately thought 5/7/94. I also love 7/8/94, not only for Gamehendge but the second set is disgusting. other favs: 7-16-94, 10-31-96, 7-8-00, 7-12-91. I was always a firm believer that July meant huge shows.
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\'94 was their best year, hands down.
best show: 5/7/94
Incredible improvs, segues from cover to cover, \'94 was their peak and they weren\'t even huge yet.