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General Discussions => Spunk => Topic started by: Klout on November 25, 2007, 09:43:45 pm
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I\'m on a Matt Damon/Ben/Casey Affleck kick since that movie came out.
\'Affleck, You were the BOMB in Phantoms, yo!\'
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I had to listen to some jack ass buying coffee talk about how our emergency oil reserve, once needed, will provide this country with another 300 years worth of crude oil. Lucky for him and the agreeing cashier I was there to remove their petroleum veils. "Actually we have 727 million barrels of emergency oil and right now we use about 20 million barrels a day, chief." He started using his fingers to count.... "That\'s about 36 days, brah." He left scratching his scalp.
was this in starbucks?
no.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxm7-yM7l1s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxm7-yM7l1s)
jesus. someone\'s on a good will kick lately..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxm7-yM7l1s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxm7-yM7l1s)
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I had to listen to some jack ass buying coffee talk about how our emergency oil reserve, once needed, will provide this country with another 300 years worth of crude oil. Lucky for him and the agreeing cashier I was there to remove their petroleum veils. "Actually we have 727 million barrels of emergency oil and right now we use about 20 million barrels a day, chief." He started using his fingers to count.... "That\'s about 36 days, brah." He left scratching his scalp.
was this in starbucks?
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I had to listen to some jack ass buying coffee talk about how our emergency oil reserve, once needed, will provide this country with another 300 years worth of crude oil. Lucky for him and the agreeing cashier I was there to remove their petroleum veils. "Actually we have 727 million barrels of emergency oil and right now we use about 20 million barrels a day, chief." He started using his fingers to count.... "That\'s about 36 days, brah." He left scratching his scalp.
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I would make the assumption that oil companies are the ones who have these technologies and have used their money to investigate and study other forms of energy. They are the ones who have the money to do the research etc... I think they will just **** us until the day the come out with "THE ANSWER TO OIL" then sell that to us. But they will take advantage of oil and its uses until then.
Nuclear Energy, Hydrogen fuel cells w/ home regeneration, Gas stations will become hydrogen fuel cell refills, Gas powered vehicals will become a thing of the past, the oil that is remaining post Peak oil will still be needed for everyday **** like TV, glasses, infrastructure, guitars, paint, cooking oil, you name it... plastic ****
pretty much DONT BUY A CAR in the next 5 years because it will be come obselete
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com
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**** happens.
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We\'re fine. All the alternative energy solutions we need are already good to go, its just a matter of getting oil and oil companies out of the way. Like Klout said, it\'s the lobbying/dividing/misinforming by the oil giants that keep these energy sources from being prevalently used. But if/when oil does go dry, it\'s not like everything is going to just grind to a halt. There are too many other powerful people who would be f&^ed for that to ever happen. When we truly need alternative energy, we\'ll get it.
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I also saw something on these HS students who turned a diesel engine into a vegetable oil engine with an extremely easy procedure.
Yeah quite a few people have done this.
A fringe of people all over the U.S. have outfitted their diesel vehicles for compatibility with greasy cooking oils. I remember a group of students in Amherst went on a national tour with their "grease bus", fueling up exclusively on leftover restaurant oils.
Just this week SF started a huge program in which the city will pick up used cooking oil and grease from local restaurants, hotels etc. for free. Those substances then will be turned into biodiesel, which burns cleaner than petroleum-based fuels.
i believe that the hot buttered rum string band tours in a van powered similarly.
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Any diesel engine can burn bio-diesel. It can run on old cooking oil or bio-diesel. It takes very little prep work to make it happen.
The problem with left over cooking oil is that as soon as people think they can make money on it it will no longer be free. So the whole idea of free fuel is gone.
Ethenol is a huge scam and is basically a way that the current administration has been able to send huge sums of money to their friends in the argo business. It takes way more energy to make it then you get out of it and the residual effects are higher costs for corn based products.
The biggest changes will come in the form of high mileage automobiles but where they ave been available in Eurpoe for a long time they are just starting to get here. The smart cars and others like them that get really good gas mileage.
Conservation and mileage mandates would go a really long way to making the oil we do have last longer. The problem is that the US is hooked on big cars with low gas mileage. Some of that is changing but the high gas mileage cars tend to be very compact and getting hit by a HUGE SUV in 1 of those would be an issue
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Hippies!!!!!!
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it\'s the right direction I suppose. One of the Mr Fusion fusion reactors from back to the future II would be better tho.
soon enough.
most of todays technology is because some "nerd" was watching Star Trek or some other movie/tv show and tried to replicate the technology into reality. I was at awe when I saw this seemingly meaningless show on the History Channel months ago titled "How William Shatner Changed the World" and was shown the meaning behind this mad technology and science. Just goes to show you that the world needs nerds, too.
This 2-hour special takes a look at the influence of the original Star Trek television series on the worlds of medicine, science and technology. William Shatner hosts this program and shows the effect that Star Trek had on many fans who went on to create groundbreaking products in the fields of telecommunications, medicine and computer science.
TV.COM LINK (http://www.tv.com/how-william-shatner-changed-the-world/show/54143/summary.html)
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it\'s the right direction I suppose. One of the Mr Fusion fusion reactors from back to the future II would be better tho.
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You are taking what leftover oil and putting it to good use instead of disposing of it and letting nature take over or what ever they do with that cooking oil and ****.
I think it is better than taking a fossil fuel out of the ground and having only one use.
mmmm, 10W-30 and Freedom Fries, mmmm
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Well the cooking oil is going to be created/used regardless, and will eventually just be thrown out. It clearly isn\'t a total solution, but it certainly can\'t hurt.
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But how many grams of fossil fuel does it take to create one gram of used cooking oil. Things like that just seem pointless to me.
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I also saw something on these HS students who turned a diesel engine into a vegetable oil engine with an extremely easy procedure.
Yeah quite a few people have done this.
A fringe of people all over the U.S. have outfitted their diesel vehicles for compatibility with greasy cooking oils. I remember a group of students in Amherst went on a national tour with their "grease bus", fueling up exclusively on leftover restaurant oils.
Just this week SF started a huge program in which the city will pick up used cooking oil and grease from local restaurants, hotels etc. for free. Those substances then will be turned into biodiesel, which burns cleaner than petroleum-based fuels.
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I also saw something on these HS students who turned a diesel engine into a vegetable oil engine with an extremely easy procedure.
Yeah quite a few people have done this.
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The most exciting idea being studied right now is the potential to harness tidal power in San Francisco. They hope to build massive turbines underneath the Golden Gate Bridge that capture the power of the tides entering and leaving San Francisco Bay. Hopefully enough to power much of the city\'s electrical needs.
I also hear they are studying Niagara Falls to do the same.
Interesting enough.
I also saw something on these HS students who turned a diesel engine into a vegetable oil engine with an extremely easy procedure.
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We have hundreds of years of coal reserves right here in the U.S. One day we\'ll likely liquefy it, make it cleaner and power our cars.
We can always expand nuclear power, drill off the outer continental shelf, tap into the geothermal energy of Yellowstone etc.
As for ethanol, 70 percent more energy is required to produce ethanol than the energy that actually is in it. If all the automobiles in the United States were fueled with 100 percent ethanol, most U.S. land area would be needed to grow the corn feedstock.
The most exciting idea being studied right now is the potential to harness tidal power in San Francisco. They hope to build massive turbines underneath the Golden Gate Bridge that capture the power of the tides entering and leaving San Francisco Bay. Hopefully enough to power much of the city\'s electrical needs.
Hopefully battery power will advance to the point where cars can travel hundreds of miles without a charge.
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I believe that alternative fuels are a realistic hope. Many great inventions come out of necessity. I also think that it has been worked on for a long time now and we are just getting to the stage of putting some of these fuels to practical tests, so there is still time to come. But, a Country that is so reliant on oil, why not make an alternative fuel, change everything over that uses fuel to the alternative fuel and say **** you to the oil countries and let them die in their palaces.
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I like the optimism about alternative fuels...but is it realistic hope or just rationalization.
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I read somewhere they expect a delay in peak production as late as 2020-2030 but that is optimistic. We might be in the peak now.
As long as Oil Companies can make money selling oil, they will. When one is ready to market alternative energy, they will make money. I am surprised that some of the Oil giants are not interested more in research for an alternative fuel so they can monopolize.
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we got it all covered. theres plenty of options out there and the technology is available. the oil crisis is a capitalist thing...once we run out, alternate power companies are going to be the money makers, and its just a question of who can produce the most efficently, at the lowest cost. then youll have your next exxon-mobil.
a lot of this research/development is going on at my school, so im relatively knowledgable about it (seminars almost weekly on this ****), although my research isnt related.
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the whole thing is under wraps. The oil families and the government is doing their best to keep people distracted, scared, divided and uninformed. Bottom line is they know we are headed for disaster but they place no value on our lives so they are just looking after their own asses.
My problem is I can\'t decide if I want to just say **** it and enjoy the good life while I still can or actually try to make a plan to get out beforethe **** hits the fan. I can;t decide because I don\'t know if the post crash world will even be worth living in. I can deal with no TV and all that stuff, but what about stuff like modern medicine. I don\'t really want to be pulling my own teeth or dying from malaria
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the oil companies will not allow us to seek alternate fuel until we are in dire straits. Check out a movie called The deat of the elctric car (I think thats what it\'s called)
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I never realized how desperate the situation was and how fast things will spiral back into the dark ages if an amazing solution is not found.
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you just figured this out?
oil is needed for everything in daily life, its not just a gas for cars thing
however honda has a fuel cell car
thats the future of that
for society to exist as it does, we need lots of oil, and the alternative energy needs to be used so the crude oil can be used for **** like.... plastic.... hell just look around your house and see that everything has plastic and that is oil
http://world.honda.com/FuelCell/
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question is how much time is left to get the alternatives before the chain reaction goes off?
Once that happens there is little chance of escape unless you are really well set up.
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We are doomed if we do not seek alternative fuel options.
I overheard some Yale students speaking about Brazil (I believe) who are developing an alternative to oil and will be self-sufficient in the next few years and will have no use for oil as fuel. They spoke of some interesting things.
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Discuss.