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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: ds673488 on November 07, 2007, 08:25:51 pm
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The Middle East was a good crowd.
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the middle east show last week had a raucous crowd, great vibes, total insanity.
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tickle the balls...
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I just like to see everyone around me at shows have a good time
high-5!
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I just like to see everyone around me at shows have a good time
high-5!
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:lol: yeah even when you try to get down in a crowd you can just see it in your face how strenuous it is on ya.
You had me in stitches at the Freakout.
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the answer is and will always be NO!
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best crowd = any one where I\'m in attendance.
gay.
I was going to say the same thing, honestly, then I thought, do I even like being a part of the crowd?
and the answer was no of course.
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best crowd = any one where I\'m in attendance.
gay.
I was going to say the same thing, honestly, then I thought, do I even like being a part of the crowd?
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best crowd = any one where I\'m in attendance.
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No such thing as a best crowd.
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Puppethouse
Ironhorse (except for the fact that they don\'t let you in until like 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds before the band starts.
Stone chruch.
CROSSROADS...just because it was my first
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on a side note, does anyone have pictures from any of the \'99 UMASS shows
I think Paul Ryan (FrankZappa) has some. Be sure to check out these pics from the last Butterfield show 3/30/01 here (http://www.thebreakfast.info/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=524). There was a Wrestlemania at setbreak, complete with DeBlock (Yoda) dressed as Hulk Hogan. I have captioned many of the photos, be sure to read.
haha yeah i already saw them, they look pretty classic, and the captions are halarious. so did anyone from .info live in butterfield? who lived in baker?
I don\'t read this forum all too often but I lived in Butterfield from 1999-2000.. Thoose were the days..
got any funny pictures from breakfast shows?
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on a side note, does anyone have pictures from any of the \'99 UMASS shows
I think Paul Ryan (FrankZappa) has some. Be sure to check out these pics from the last Butterfield show 3/30/01 here (http://www.thebreakfast.info/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=524). There was a Wrestlemania at setbreak, complete with DeBlock (Yoda) dressed as Hulk Hogan. I have captioned many of the photos, be sure to read.
haha yeah i already saw them, they look pretty classic, and the captions are halarious. so did anyone from .info live in butterfield? who lived in baker?
I don\'t read this forum all too often but I lived in Butterfield from 1999-2000.. Thoose were the days..
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Teddy is on board here. Just joined not that long ago.
TeddyT
Join Date: 07-04-2007
Total Posts: 7
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even though ive only been to 5 shows, and only since 2005, i still would like to comment on how much fun i had at that red square show a few months ago. that was the reason i joined this message board and became much more active in seeing the band. everyone was dancin like crazy that night, myself included...i was also so hammered, but still i had a friggin blast at that show.
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so did anyone from .info live in butterfield? who lived in baker?
Wolfman and I lived in Baker. My sister lived in Butterfield from 1997 - 2001. Wolfman was on the Butterfield meal program and ate there with the "family". Not sure if anyone else associated with UMass is registered here.
Yeah, I was as close as you could get without living there. I worked in the kitchen and ate all my meals there with those kids, and I helped book the shows there. Just didn\'t sleep there. There are no Butterfielders on .info. The only one who surfaces anymore is Teddy Torres, he still makes it to key shows but doesn\'t do .info. (He was Hugh Heffner at FF9.)
Anyhow, who else has some crazy or huge crowds to talk about? I want to hear more stories!
uh yes there is read the post you just quoted by Al again.
Please be nice leith, I am pouring my heart and soul into this thread. I\'m not sure what you mean, as Al\'s sister is not on .info. How about some more show stories?
Uh yeah she is. Duh.
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so did anyone from .info live in butterfield? who lived in baker?
Wolfman and I lived in Baker. My sister lived in Butterfield from 1997 - 2001. Wolfman was on the Butterfield meal program and ate there with the "family". Not sure if anyone else associated with UMass is registered here.
Yeah, I was as close as you could get without living there. I worked in the kitchen and ate all my meals there with those kids, and I helped book the shows there. Just didn\'t sleep there. There are no Butterfielders on .info. The only one who surfaces anymore is Teddy Torres, he still makes it to key shows but doesn\'t do .info. (He was Hugh Heffner at FF9.)
Anyhow, who else has some crazy or huge crowds to talk about? I want to hear more stories!
uh yes there is read the post you just quoted by Al again.
Please be nice leith, I am pouring my heart and soul into this thread. I\'m not sure what you mean, as Al\'s sister is not on .info. How about some more show stories?
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so did anyone from .info live in butterfield? who lived in baker?
Wolfman and I lived in Baker. My sister lived in Butterfield from 1997 - 2001. Wolfman was on the Butterfield meal program and ate there with the "family". Not sure if anyone else associated with UMass is registered here.
Yeah, I was as close as you could get without living there. I worked in the kitchen and ate all my meals there with those kids, and I helped book the shows there. Just didn\'t sleep there. There are no Butterfielders on .info. The only one who surfaces anymore is Teddy Torres, he still makes it to key shows but doesn\'t do .info. (He was Hugh Heffner at FF9.)
Anyhow, who else has some crazy or huge crowds to talk about? I want to hear more stories!
uh yes there is read the post you just quoted by Al again.
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so did anyone from .info live in butterfield? who lived in baker?
Wolfman and I lived in Baker. My sister lived in Butterfield from 1997 - 2001. Wolfman was on the Butterfield meal program and ate there with the "family". Not sure if anyone else associated with UMass is registered here.
Yeah, I was as close as you could get without living there. I worked in the kitchen and ate all my meals there with those kids, and I helped book the shows there. Just didn\'t sleep there. There are no Butterfielders on .info. The only one who surfaces anymore is Teddy Torres, he still makes it to key shows but doesn\'t do .info. (He was Hugh Heffner at FF9.)
Anyhow, who else has some crazy or huge crowds to talk about? I want to hear more stories!
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so did anyone from .info live in butterfield? who lived in baker?
Wolfman and I lived in Baker. My sister lived in Butterfield from 1997 - 2001. Wolfman was on the Butterfield meal program and ate there with the "family". Not sure if anyone else associated with UMass is registered here.
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on a side note, does anyone have pictures from any of the \'99 UMASS shows
I think Paul Ryan (FrankZappa) has some. Be sure to check out these pics from the last Butterfield show 3/30/01 here (http://www.thebreakfast.info/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=524). There was a Wrestlemania at setbreak, complete with DeBlock (Yoda) dressed as Hulk Hogan. I have captioned many of the photos, be sure to read.
haha yeah i already saw them, they look pretty classic, and the captions are halarious. so did anyone from .info live in butterfield? who lived in baker?
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on a side note, does anyone have pictures from any of the \'99 UMASS shows
I think Paul Ryan (FrankZappa) has some. Be sure to check out these pics from the last Butterfield show 3/30/01 here (http://www.thebreakfast.info/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=524). There was a Wrestlemania at setbreak, complete with DeBlock (Yoda) dressed as Hulk Hogan. I have captioned many of the photos, be sure to read.
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this is all incredibly interesting...i love breakfistory...
also, this is the funniest thing ive ever seen...please read and comment (espicially those who can relate). did anyonne live/know anyone who lived here during the early-mid 90\'s?
http://www.umasswiki.com/wiki/Butterfield
Wow, GREAT link there! Everything is true. Holy crap, that\'s a very good history. My only criticism is that it was clearly written by someone from the early 90\'s and he glossed over the Fall 99-Spring 01 period. I could give a 12-page version of that era. Stop me. The Baker Quad show (5/5/01) was but a few days after Tom Degnan fell off the roof, and The Breakfast dedicated Gladys Pimp to him at the show. The history of Butterfield is much, much bigger than the history of The Breakfast so it makes sense that PB is not mentioned in the article, but it\'s things like that dedication and even the song Honey Butter that let you know that The Breakfast were firmly intertwined with late Butterfield history and Butterfield is a major part of Breakfast history.
They should make a movie about this dorm, it would be the best movie of all time. better than animal house cause it would be a true story.
on a side note, does anyone have pictures from any of the \'99 UMASS shows
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this is all incredibly interesting...i love breakfistory...
also, this is the funniest thing ive ever seen...please read and comment (espicially those who can relate). did anyonne live/know anyone who lived here during the early-mid 90\'s?
http://www.umasswiki.com/wiki/Butterfield
Wow, GREAT link there! Everything is true. Holy crap, that\'s a very good history. My only criticism is that it was clearly written by someone from the early 90\'s and he glossed over the final days of the Fall 99-Spring 01 period. I could give a 12-page version of that era. Stop me. The Baker Quad show (5/5/01) was but a few days after Tom Degnan fell off the roof, and The Breakfast dedicated Gladys Pimp to him at the show. The history of Butterfield is much, much bigger than the history of The Breakfast so it makes sense that PB is not mentioned in the article, but it\'s things like that dedication and even the song Honey Butter that let you know that The Breakfast were firmly intertwined with late Butterfield history and Butterfield is a major part of Breakfast history.
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:doh: :shrug:
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Best crowds I\'ve ever seen:
6. Camp Creek 7/27/01
Biggest crowds I\'ve ever seen (not counting festivals, per the rules):
1. Deuce CD release at Toad\'s, 6/1/01. To the best of my knowledge it is the only Toad\'s sellout. You couldn\'t move. We also did over $1,500 in merch that night, that has to be a record.
The thing everyone forgets about the cd release party for deuce was that most of the people there WERE NOT THERE FOR PSYCHEDELIC BREAKFAST. Oysterhead had played their one show in new orleans and were now announcing that they were going on tour. The tour was going to have two pre-tour shows, the first of which was going to be at toads place in the begining of september. 6/1/01, in a brilliant marketing move was not only the night of the breakfasts cd release party, but it was also the night the tickets went on sale for this, the first show of oysterhead after the new orleans show. As you stood in the croud, there was a line that snaked from the front door back to the bar and then back to the front door again along the back wall which was all the people waiting for tickets. They got to watch the show while waiting in line, but most of them probably would not have otherwise been there, and a good majority of them left as soon as they got their oysterhead tickets.
Oysterhead never played toads place. 9/11 happened and the show was scheduled for only a few days after that, to be followed the next night in nyc. Both pre-tour shows were scrapped.
Don\'t get me wrong, there were a lot of people getting down in line and they probably made some fans, but there were just as many that were completely ignoring the band on stage.
again, wrong show.
oysterhead tickets went on sale at the 2001-08-23 pb toad\'s place show, not at the 2001-06-01 deuce cd release party.
http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=539
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this is all incredibly interesting...i love breakfistory...
also, this is the funniest thing ive ever seen...please read and comment (espicially those who can relate). did anyonne live/know anyone who lived here during the early-mid 90\'s?
http://www.umasswiki.com/wiki/Butterfield
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Sportin\' a Wolfstock shirt there champ?
Well hopefully your 20-30 pages will be partially recited as part of TB\'s future documentary, in the section titled "The Early Psychedelic Days", when the fanbase has grown immensely and live footage is taken exclusively from their recent sell-out NYE show at the Roseland Ballroom. Ya\' know those scenes where the band is all leaning forward with their elbows on their knees, slight smerk, staring at the ground ahead, waiting to chime in with their funny bits every once in awhile, while the scene\'s story-teller continues through the interruptions getting more excited and the director cuts just as everyone busts a gut. Every rock-doc has \'em.
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Man, I hate to ask, but where did all these kids go? What happened to prevent the crowds from gradually INCREASING in the future?
Al pretty much took care of this one, but I\'ll throw my abridged version in. One day I\'ll sit down and write 20 pages about this but not for this post:
UMass 99-02 was a very special circumstance that existed in a certain time and place. A lot of things had to go right, and a lot of fortunate circumstances had to come together at the same time for it to exist, and they did. It was incredible but not sustainable.
The biggest factor was a MAJOR hipppie clique of about 250 kids who were all friends, mostly from Baker dorm. I know this may seem impossible, but you have to take my word for it. This was State U networking of the highest order. You could count on ALL of these kids at the same shows and parties every time, and Psychedelic Breakfast was our band. It was great, but it couldn\'t last forever. Kids go their separate ways after college. Everyone went for equal parts the music and for each other, and when you took the "each other" out of the equation, most slowly fell off the Breakfast landscape.
The second biggest factor was the closing of Butterfield. (I made a classic post about this at the old yahoo group that you can read here (http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=535&highlight=butterfield+era+end).) As the band moved to the clubs you started to get a division of UMass fans: those who had been to Butterfield shows, and those who hadn\'t. Even though the early Northampton club shows were equally epic and constant sellouts, there was no way anyone who hadn\'t been in Butterfield could get on board at the same level of ferocity.
The third factor is the fact that the band was getting bigger and touring wider and you couldn\'t go see them 3 nights a week all the time like we were doing in 00-01.
And the last factor I have to take a hit on. Looking back I feel like I could have done a better job networking with some of the big buzzkids a couple of years younger than me and having them smoothly take over handling Breakfast grassroots and parties and stuff after I left. There was nothing I could do to overcome the three factors above, the scene was never going to last at the level it was at. But if I had done a better job passing the torch the dropoff could have been slower and wouldn\'t have bottomed out at the point that it did.
Like I said, I\'ve got 20-30 pages in me about the rise and fall of this era, but I feel like I owe a brief answer right now.
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Classic photo there: lele, Davepeck, me, Jocelyn, and FrankZappa basking in the afterglow of Camp Creek 2001, #6 on my list.
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Best crowds I\'ve ever seen:
6. Camp Creek 7/27/01
Biggest crowds I\'ve ever seen (not counting festivals, per the rules):
1. Deuce CD release at Toad\'s, 6/1/01. To the best of my knowledge it is the only Toad\'s sellout. You couldn\'t move. We also did over $1,500 in merch that night, that has to be a record.
The thing everyone forgets about the cd release party for deuce was that most of the people there WERE NOT THERE FOR PSYCHEDELIC BREAKFAST. Oysterhead had played their one show in new orleans and were now announcing that they were going on tour. The tour was going to have two pre-tour shows, the first of which was going to be at toads place in the begining of september. 6/1/01, in a brilliant marketing move was not only the night of the breakfasts cd release party, but it was also the night the tickets went on sale for this, the first show of oysterhead after the new orleans show. As you stood in the croud, there was a line that snaked from the front door back to the bar and then back to the front door again along the back wall which was all the people waiting for tickets. They got to watch the show while waiting in line, but most of them probably would not have otherwise been there, and a good majority of them left as soon as they got their oysterhead tickets.
Oysterhead never played toads place. 9/11 happened and the show was scheduled for only a few days after that, to be followed the next night in nyc. Both pre-tour shows were scrapped.
Don\'t get me wrong, there were a lot of people getting down in line and they probably made some fans, but there were just as many that were completely ignoring the band on stage.
and,
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that venue pic looks like the lions den, but nicer
Beardslee Halloween show 05 there were like 700 paid that night and it was a total **** show
I just did a little research, that IS the Lion\'s Den
Wow. I am really surprised I didn\'t pick up on that.
I thought the pics looked like a much nicer Lion\'s Den and know CEG books the place but figured it was a new venue.
Weird because on the map it just didn\'t look right. Oh well. from the pictures I hope the renovated the place. I might give it another chance. And don\'t have to worry to much about taping bands there :)
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Those were good times and good memories. I remember being broke for a month after buying the Vader costume for the Baker Quad show.
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:rip: :violin:
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huh... what a shame. at least you have those memories in the bag man, sounds like it was pretty special. thanks for a solid answer. i\'m sure you\'re remeniscing (sp?) bittersweetly.
Ahh, the days of walking down the hall and seeing a PB brain sticker on every other door.
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huh... what a shame. at least you have those memories in the bag man, sounds like it was pretty special. thanks for a solid answer. i\'m sure you\'re remeniscing (sp?) bittersweetly.
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Man, I hate to ask, but where did all these kids go?
I\'ll try to make sense of PB\'s fanbase dissolving somewhat in the UMass area as best I can.
During the 1999-2001 years, the band was playing Butterfield several times a year along with the Iron Horse, Fire + Water Cafe (acoustic) and other venues in Amherst and Northampton. It literally seemed like the band was playing in our backyard every few weeks. Most of the kids seeing the Breakfast lived in Butterfield and other dorms that were within 1,000 feet. Hence, the fanbase was closely connected and it was easy to promote shows when all you had to do was flyer a few dorms that were next to each other. Almost everyone on the area of campus Wolfman and I lived in knew the band and hundreds were fans. There was such a high concentration of PB fans in such a small area that UMass quickly became their "home away from home". This phenomenon wasn\'t exclusive to the Breakfast scene. Sometimes the whole dorm Wolfman and I lived in would end up at the same party, only to continue late night back in the building together. It was a very tight bunch.
Butterfield was a crazy dorm where anything could happen. The school finally decided to put the kibosh on the madness and converted it into a freshman dorm at the end of the 2001 school year (after a kid fell from the roof trying to capture the jolly roger pirate flag flapping on the roof). The days of madness right inside the dorms were over, forcing the fanbase off campus to more subdued digs at The Iron Horse, Pearl St Nightclub, Springdale Turn Hall etc. After the 2001 school year, many of the student fans living on campus moved off campus; the **** fans were scattered in different towns around the Amherst area. The band still played killer shows to sizable and appreciative crowds (with post-show parties at Wolfman\'s house regularly), but it was harder to mobilize that many people who no longer shared the same bathrooms, dining facilities, frisbee lawns etc.. Keep in mind that these days I speak of preceded .info. If we had .info back then to keep everyone connected, perhaps many would have never lost touch with the band. Once many of the students graduated, many fans were gone from the area for good and lost touch all together.
Some of the fans were as fanatical about the band as some of you are, driving to other states on work or school nights. It\'s a shame that they are not currently active in the scene, but I doubt they ever got sick of what the band was doing. They made the same fantasy setlists and talked about the Breakfast\'s future being so bright the quartet needed to wear shades :exaggeration: etc. They just moved away and lost touch. Seriously, what the hell happened to people like Mike Bonanno?
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I knew that date didn\'t feel right. It\'s coming back to me now. It was just a couple of weeks after Baker Quad, and Baker Quad at the time it happened was the undisputed biggest show ever. Kids were fiending for another show after Baker Quad and this was the first chance. At Toad\'s, on top of an excellent hometown and CT crowd, Umass/Northampton sent about 300 kids and put the crowd into stratospheric size territory. School had just gotten out and Baker sent easily half the freakin dorm along with a big group from Butterfield and all of the associated friends from around New England also fresh out of school. Huge show.
Man, I hate to ask, but where did all these kids go? What happened to prevent the crowds from gradually INCREASING in the future?
It seems like this must have been an extremely hopeful and exciting time in PB/TB\'s history, only to slowly deflate thereafter.
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Best crowds I\'ve ever seen:
2. Butterfield 11/19/99 Read about it here (http://www.thebreakfast.info/modules.php?name=Reviews&file=viewarticle&op=newarticle&id=148)
I know exactly what you mean about these party/no supervision/no rules shows. some of the best shows my band has ever played were at these wild frat parties in buffalo where we would either play in a basement or in a living room of a big house that was jam packed with ape-like drunk kids who were dancing/screaming/fighting. the energy at those types of shows cannot be duplicated.
5. Puppet House 2005, both shows.
I always hear about the puppethouse shows, and ive listened to some of them...is this place a bar, and where?
6. Camp Creek 7/27/01
Including festivals, was this the biggest crowd they\'ve ever played to?
Biggest crowds I\'ve ever seen (not counting festivals, per the rules):
1. Deuce CD release at Toad\'s, 5/23/02. To the best of my knowledge it is the only Toad\'s sellout. You couldn\'t move. We also did over $1,500 in merch that night, that has to be a record.
How many people does toad\'s fit, about?
2. Baker Quad 5/5/01 Outdoor 360 degree stage, about 15-20 deep for 270 degrees and 5 deep behind the stage. 500-700 people.
Where is Baker\'s Quad?
Getting thread back on track here, it\'s too good to sidetrack.
To catch up on inqueries:
-Puppet House is not a bar. It\'s a very small theater with removable seating whose principal function is puppet shows. The shows were BYOB.
-Baker Quad is the quad in front of Baker dorm at UMass, about 100 yards from Butterfield dorm.
-I think Toad\'s is 850-900, Ellis can confirm the number.
-I\'m changing the date on Deuce CD release, I knew that date didn\'t feel right
-Tobacco Road was an alltime classic venue and lives on in Breakfast infamy on the Dead But Not Forgotten Venues list alongside Callahan\'s, Hawk\'s Nest, Butterfield and others. We used to rent a bus when they played there and have everyone gather in East Haven and PARTY HARD on the bus the whole way down and back. The shows ran until absolutely whenever, 5am or later usually. I remember emerging into broad daylight from some shows that broke the 5 hour mark...no other club has pushed it like that since. The phrase "NO SLEEPING ONLY DRINKING!" came from these trips and as best I can remember this was the first ever Breakfast scene-ism. And Pec recalled a great show, 12/31/02...wild night for sure. That one should be on my list. I was at TR all night, it was packed and insane even before the post-Phish crowd rolled in. But management there got very bizarre at the last show in \'03 and they closed shortly after. For one, they blew a lot of money on an expensive new light rig but had no employee who knew how to run it and they wouldn\'t let us run it either, so the band just looked like crap all night with 10 grand worth of lights doing nothing. And more notoriously, they prohibited all taping and instead taped the show themselves and demanded $50 from the band to get the recording. OOF. They did a lot of great stuff for us, but they had it coming after that.
-I think the rules in the first post were meant to exclude festivals for biggest crowd but not best crowd. If your best crowd experience was at a festival we should know about it!
1. Deuce CD release at Toad\'s, 5/23/02.
deuce cd release @ toad\'s was 06/01/01, just fyi.
I knew that date didn\'t feel right. It\'s coming back to me now. It was just a couple of weeks after Baker Quad, and Baker Quad at the time it happened was the undisputed biggest show ever. Kids were fiending for another show after Baker Quad and this was the first chance. At Toad\'s, on top of an excellent hometown and CT crowd, Umass/Northampton sent about 300 kids and put the crowd into stratospheric size territory. School had just gotten out and Baker sent easily half the freakin dorm along with a big group from Butterfield and all of the associated friends from around New England also fresh out of school. Huge show.
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that however has nothing to do with the venue, but CEG the company that brings the club shows, they do the 4 bands thing, mabye they bought the bar
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yup 214 sullivan st
so I assume someone else bought it, remodeled put in a new sound system and changed the name?
so technically the breakfast is playing there but not really because it doesn\'t change hands until the new year. i.e. still 3 opening acts ala lions den. hopefully new management will be down with one or no opening band and two long sets of breakfast
anyway I think I wanna go to the upcoming show there. i have always liked the venue and it looks a lot nicer now.
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yeah
look up the pics for the Lions Den at their website, they are those pics
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r u ser?
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that venue pic looks like the lions den, but nicer
Beardslee Halloween show 05 there were like 700 paid that night and it was a total **** show
I just did a little research, that IS the Lion\'s Den
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This looks and sounds like it would be a GREAT venue for the breakfast!!!!
Especially as a new venue...if the breakfast gets their foot in the door early while the hype about it is hot and plays there regularly and own that place, place a bunch of legendary sold out shows there and graduate to the next level in nyc.
["Artists: We book nearly all styles of music with the exception of hard core, thrash or really heavy metal. If there are artists you’d like to see at Sullivan Hall, please email info@sullivanhallnyc.com with your suggestions. Thank you!"
We should all email about the breakfast.[/B]
:that:!
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Speaking of Tobacco ROad does anyone know anything about this new place opening in NYC ?
It is right around the corner from where Tobacco Rd. used to be
http://www.sullivanhallnyc.com
Marco Benevento & friends every Thursday night in Jan.
This looks and sounds like it would be a GREAT venue for the breakfast!!!!
"Sullivan Hall is a 345 capacity music and event venue located in Greenwich Village in downtown Manhattan near the New York University community. We are big music fans who frequent shows and are friends with many musicians and artist representatives. We listened to what they had to say about the type of venue they’d like to see in New York City. We created an ideal venue for both performers and fans alike. We put a state of the art sound and lighting system, and the space has near perfect sight lines. Even on a sold out show, you will have an intimate experience with your favorite performers at Sullivan Hall. "
"Street Team: We have a very active, paid street team to promote shows at Sullivan Hall, as well as CEG Presents shows elsewhere. Please email Jennifer Sellers if you’re interested in joining up."
Full Text (http://www.sullivanhallnyc.com/fan_area.htm)
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"Artists: We book nearly all styles of music with the exception of hard core, thrash or really heavy metal. If there are artists you’d like to see at Sullivan Hall, please email info@sullivanhallnyc.com with your suggestions. Thank you!"
We should all email about the breakfast.
Especially now with it being a new hyped up venue...if the breakfast gets their foot in the door early , plays there regularly, begins to pack the place, they could own that place then have a string of legendary sold out shows there before graduating to the next level of nyc venue. i.e. bb king\'s
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Biggest crowd I\'ve ever seen them play for was House Of Blues - Chicago 4/28/06, sold out. Unfortunately, they were opening for The Wailers and the crowd was 99.742% there for The Wailers. I at least **** got down because the sound quality was A++, ellis-d tore the lights a new ****, and it was my first TL&TG > OE experience which was siiiiiick willy.
After the show Jordan had the smiling shakes. I asked him, laughing, if he was alright, and he came back with, "Dude we\'ve never played on a stage like that with that many people. It was crazy. It felt great." Then Gavin walked up within two seconds and said, "I heard a bunch of kids in the crowd yelling \'too many notes!\'" and then Jordan stopped smiling. A bittersweet night.
Best atmosphere I\'ve been in (next to my only East Side show -- FF9) was the Rathskeller at Madison without a doubt. A free show where maybe a couple hundred showed up and the place was fuckin\' jumpin\'. I even saw a few chicks makin out with each other right in front of the stage during the colossal second set. That show still sits atop all the rest for me, musically especially.
Speaking of Tobacco ROad does anyone know anything about this new place opening in NYC ?
It is right around the corner from where Tobacco Rd. used to be
http://www.sullivanhallnyc.com
Marco Benevento & friends every Thursday night in Jan.
Looks cool and seems like based on the peeps who run it the atmosphere could be something special.
Man, I\'d love to run a venue/bar. If only I had enough money where I wouldn\'t be depending on it for my livelihood.
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Looks nice, and sounds like they are real music fans trying to create a nice venue for both musicians and fans.
The band should try and get in there.
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Speaking of Tobacco ROad does anyone know anything about this new place opening in NYC ?
It is right around the corner from where Tobacco Rd. used to be
http://www.sullivanhallnyc.com
Marco Benevento & friends every Thursday night in Jan.
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tobacco road = venue name. closed in 2003. definitely one of the best all-time breakfast venues. some crazy things went down there through the years.
It is where I fell in love with the band, that\'s for sure.
I really miss that place, it was what a night in NYC should be.
never having to pre-game, just get to the venue and do what you will.
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the stone church is my favorite. but the middle east 4/22 was also a memorable time.
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don\'t even get me started about how phish\'s ticketing system went down the tubes post-hiatus.
No kidding. I mail ordered for 2 tix to each of the Phoenix, San Diego, Mountain View (x2) and Gorge (x2) shows in 2003. They processed my mail order twice and sent me 4 tix to each show (in two seperate packeges of 2 tix each). They wouldn\'t refund my money afterwards when I told them they had made a mistake. I let it go figuring I would just sell/trade them for goodies when I was out West. I couldn\'t sell those tix for **** as crowd numbers were low to start off that tour. I had to eat so much money because of it.
The days of actually mailing them a \'mail order\' was so much better.
Sorry for the thread jack.
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tobacco road = venue name. closed in 2003. definitely one of the best all-time breakfast venues. some crazy things went down there through the years.
had to pay extra for my phish ticket, since my (and 5 family members) mail order did not make the cut. don\'t even get me started about how phish\'s ticketing system went down the tubes post-hiatus. *sigh* those tickets should have been automatic for anyone who\'d mail ordered for 75+ shows in the past.
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now is tobacco road one bar, or does it describe a general location in new york? this must have been insane after the phish comeback show...and dave, how the hell did you get tickets to MSG, it was so hard to get them.
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there were probably opening bands.. not sure though, as we were at MSG. walked to TR after the phish show ended and it was insane.
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^ Oh ****, I totally forgot about this show. Weren\'t there a bunch of bands playing at Tobacco Road that night? I can\'t remember when we arrived but it was probably close to 1:30 or so. Pretty sure music was going on until 4 or later. Very foggy memory due to +20 hours of boozing.
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12/31/02
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Tobacco Road New Years Eve. After phish Show.
Place was packed unlike any other night with the exception of the Robert Randolph Christmas show.
It was the Tobacco Road free for all and of course THE missing recording.
what year was this?
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Tobacco Road New Years Eve. After phish Show.
Place was packed unlike any other night with the exception of the Robert Randolph Christmas show.
It was the Tobacco Road free for all and of course THE missing recording.
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FF1 - The music was awesome and it was catered
4/1/00 - I enjoyed all Butterfield shows; I wasn\'t so much a fan on the Baker Quad show.
8/12/00 - Although there weren\'t hundreds of people, the band scheduled after them didn\'t want to play after they heard the first half of their set. That\'s why an hour slot turned into a 3+ hour first set and a 2 hour midnight second set.
11/25/01 - This was a fun show
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Every Winstons show I have seen since 10/10/03 has been off the hook crowd and energy wise and the band\'s playing shows it. I really hope some of you will be able to experience a Breakfast show there someday. It is a pretty special place to three of the guys for sure.
the national I went on Winstons was prob the best show of the run.
April 10th, 2004 - Winston\'s; San Diego, CA
I: Inner Glimpse, Dig, The Chase, Escher\'s Etchings > Sleeping Beauty, No Regret, Great Big Fiery Ball in the Sky > Funk* > jam > Attraction To Shade Ditty > Message in Bottle, Dimension 5 > Score, May Fly Disarray, Rufus
* Rap by Al Howard
the setlist doesn\'t look too crazy but trust it was a blast.
HA I just read my review of that show. I was actually running lights that night. Wow seems so loooong ago.
5. Puppet House 2005, both shows.
I always hear about the puppethouse shows, and ive listened to some of them...is this place a bar, and where?
No dude it\'s a Puppet House and it\'s in Stony Creek.
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Best crowds I\'ve ever seen:
2. Butterfield 11/19/99 Read about it here (http://www.thebreakfast.info/modules.php?name=Reviews&file=viewarticle&op=newarticle&id=148)
I know exactly what you mean about these party/no supervision/no rules shows. some of the best shows my band has ever played were at these wild frat parties in buffalo where we would either play in a basement or in a living room of a big house that was jam packed with ape-like drunk kids who were dancing/screaming/fighting. the energy at those types of shows cannot be duplicated.
5. Puppet House 2005, both shows.
I always hear about the puppethouse shows, and ive listened to some of them...is this place a bar, and where?
6. Camp Creek 7/27/01
Including festivals, was this the biggest crowd they\'ve ever played to?
Biggest crowds I\'ve ever seen (not counting festivals, per the rules):
1. Deuce CD release at Toad\'s, 5/23/02. To the best of my knowledge it is the only Toad\'s sellout. You couldn\'t move. We also did over $1,500 in merch that night, that has to be a record.
How many people does toad\'s fit, about?
2. Baker Quad 5/5/01 Outdoor 360 degree stage, about 15-20 deep for 270 degrees and 5 deep behind the stage. 500-700 people.
Where is Baker\'s Quad?
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I\'d say 1000th show was the biggest crowd i\'ve seen at a breakfast show they were headlining by themselves.
Crowd energy was definitely at a peak on 4-22-06
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1. Deuce CD release at Toad\'s, 5/23/02.
deuce cd release @ toad\'s was 06/01/01, just fyi.
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best vibe ever = any show that mario is at
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Every Winstons show I have seen since 10/10/03 has been off the hook crowd and energy wise and the band\'s playing shows it. I really hope some of you will be able to experience a Breakfast show there someday. It is a pretty special place to three of the guys for sure.
the national I went on Winstons was prob the best show of the run.
April 10th, 2004 - Winston\'s; San Diego, CA
I: Inner Glimpse, Dig, The Chase, Escher\'s Etchings > Sleeping Beauty, No Regret, Great Big Fiery Ball in the Sky > Funk* > jam > Attraction To Shade Ditty > Message in Bottle, Dimension 5 > Score, May Fly Disarray, Rufus
* Rap by Al Howard
the setlist doesn\'t look too crazy but trust it was a blast.
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4/22/06 (or 05? i dont remember) at the middle east upstairs was some of the highest energy i\'ve ever seen at a breakfast show (or any show for that matter)
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Every Winstons show I have seen since 10/10/03 has been off the hook crowd and energy wise and the band\'s playing shows it. I really hope some of you will be able to experience a Breakfast show there someday. It is a pretty special place to three of the guys for sure.
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Oh, right. Didn\'t read the post very thoroughly.
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^^^ festivals don\'t count.
My guess would be the 1000th show, or one of the Toad\'s show\'s from back in the day.
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Did Camp Creek make it onto that list? It should anyhow.
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Just to note, i remember the crowd at Iron Horse being (in my opinion) just as wild as the crowd at the freakout (everyone was getting downnn)
You\'re right, everyone was way into it both nights and Iron Horse was dope. But FF9 is in a league of its own. FF9 set a new precedent for :holyshit: moments ever at a Breakfast show. Think Phish busting out Dark Side on 11/2/98 etc.... We\'re talking about unprecedented shock and energy and admiration from everyone there regardless of experience level with the band.
The fact that they were not played in a club and instead in a dorm basement with no supervision allowed for total freedom for both the band and the crowd. Also, most of the kids lived in Butterfield or nearby dorms so no one had to drive home.
You hit the nail on the head, Al. These rare "free-for-all" shows with no rules or inhibitions pack a certain energy that cannot be matched. When the person at the door asks if you\'d like to be dosed on the way in, and kidz are walking through the crowd before the show handing out pot brownies, and the kegs are free and sitting 20 feet from the stage, and the band gets to play as long as they freakin want... it\'s a COLOSSAL energy boost. You can\'t touch this in a club. Yasgur\'s farm and Thumper\'s barn (both upstate NY) are the only other venues I can remember that totally achieved this. Powder Hollow Barn in Enfield came pretty close for a while but had other things working against it. Small festivals also approach this point to varying degrees. It\'s a huge, huge factor when you can get it.
People, if you see a show that you think might achieve "free-for-all" status, drive to whatever godforsaken farm it\'s on in the middle of nowhere and go.
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3A-3L. Every other Butterfield, Amherst, and Northampton show from 99-02. This is to take absolutely nothing away from anything that has happened since. The Breakfast plays shows just as insane these days, and much more often. There was just a particular vibe in that area at that time that has never quite been duplicated.
The Butterfield shows were legendary.
The fact that they were not played in a club and instead in a dorm basement with no supervision allowed for total freedom for both the band and the crowd. Also, most of the kids lived in Butterfield or nearby dorms so no one had to drive home.
Best crowds I\'ve ever seen:
1. Baker Quad 5/5/01 (It\'s pretty evident throughout the recording.)
One of the best ever. Even with cops and the resident director standing on the sidelines, the crowd of largely underagers drinking in public was not hampered. Even kids who mainly listened to rap were outside grooving to the Psychedelic Breakfast.
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In no particular order, best crowd atmosphere:
Puppethouse
Stone Church
Porters
Keene State
Iron Horse
Higher Ground (FF9)
Nectars (NYE & 4/20)
Beer Tent Moe.down 6 (I know you said no festies for the largest crowd, but this should still count for one of the best atmospheres for a breakfast show possibly ever)
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Best crowds I\'ve ever seen:
1. Baker Quad 5/5/01 (It\'s pretty evident throughout the recording.)
2. Butterfield 11/19/99 Read about it here (http://www.thebreakfast.info/modules.php?name=Reviews&file=viewarticle&op=newarticle&id=148)
3A-3L. Every other Butterfield, Amherst, and Northampton show from 99-02. This is to take absolutely nothing away from anything that has happened since. The Breakfast plays shows just as insane these days, and much more often. There was just a particular vibe in that area at that time that has never quite been duplicated. I could go into more detail but I\'ve waxed poetic about this era plenty already. You\'ll just have to take my word for it, or for even better evidence, ask anyone else who was there and they\'ll always agree.
4. Fonghoulish Freakout 9.
5. Puppet House 2005, both shows.
6. Camp Creek 7/27/01
7. Many different shows from Toad\'s and Porter\'s and Stone Church come to mind, also Tobacco Road bus trip shows, as well as FF6, FF7, and FF8. Too close to differentiate but all VERY high energy.
I\'m probably forgetting a couple but all of those are clear winners. The important thing is that the frequency of high-energy crowds is much, much higher today than it was 4+ years ago.
Biggest crowds I\'ve ever seen (not counting festivals, per the rules):
1. Deuce CD release at Toad\'s, 6/1/01. To the best of my knowledge it is the only Toad\'s sellout. You couldn\'t move. We also did over $1,500 in merch that night, that has to be a record.
2. Baker Quad 5/5/01 Outdoor 360 degree stage, about 15-20 deep for 270 degrees and 5 deep behind the stage. 500-700 people.
3. Whatever the biggest Webster show was. I think we\'ve probably done over 400 in there.
After that it\'s a whole mishmash of shows in the 250-400 range that I can\'t discern.
Good thread.
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pretty much every stone church show, w00t!!!!
electric company st paddys day
first Toads show with matty o was good peeps, good times
4/22 at middle east upstairs was real good peeps real good times
the last red square show, crowd was pretty into it
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I\'ll venture a guess...
Butterfield Dorm?
1000th show?
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I know this is hard to determine since no one has official counts, but I was wondering if anyone knows which shows in PB/TB history has the largest attendance (not including festivals), and approximately how many people were there...Also, do you guys have picks for the best crowd atmosphere at a particular show, for one reason or another?
Just to note, i remember the crowd at Iron Horse being (in my opinion) just as wild as the crowd at the freakout (everyone was getting downnn)