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Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: DocEllis70 on November 24, 2003, 04:55:22 pm
members of sun ra played a free show at the madison green about 3 weeks ago ..they do the same stuff as well as some originals i believe.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: Wolfman on November 24, 2003, 03:48:50 pm
I played horn on stage with PB once, that Powder Hollow Barn show.  It was NOT the worst thing in the history of sound, as Freddie would have you believe, but the sound quality did blow, as it always does at that venue.  I rapped with the band on July 4th 2001 and in Atlanta in summer 2002.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 24, 2003, 02:21:44 pm
Do u mean the tour after JG came back from his coma ? That was in \'86.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: FrankZappa on November 24, 2003, 05:33:20 am
most of my list is still current:
frank zappa - classical still preformed worldwide 5-10 times a year, bands like project object still play his other material, and thing fish has/had a sucessful theater tour in england last year
miles davis fusion bands - no
mahavishnu orchestra -still on tour
chick coria acoustic and electric bands - still tours reguarly
sun ra - no
Ornet colemans double quartet free jazz - don\'t know
dave brubeck -still out there, every year in newport
igor stravinsky - still played frequently, NYPhilharmonic had several shows of his this season
edgar varese - still preformed, but you have to look
mmw - duh
primus - on tour
old phish esp. 1997 fall tour - still touring
pb - still touring
Grateful dead 67-72, 76-80 and the tour after garcia came back in 88 - the dead, phil lesh and friends, and rat dog still touring
bootsie collins - don\'t know about shows, but he was in the NBA commercials last year, so he still gets around
george clinton -still touring
bela fleck -still touring
victor wooten - still touring w/ fleck


out of 18, all can be heard except miles and sun ra, and maybe boostie. sun ra might even still be around but i dont know. composers dont have to be alive or present for there music to be preformed, so theres zappa/stravinsky/varese. also, with gd and phish i was just being specific as to which years i like the best.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: gitCHu ONe. on November 23, 2003, 07:25:01 pm
i know that this thread has been going in all sorts of directions since everyone stopped talking about WSP and all...  but it is still CURRENT jambands that the discussion started about. Sure, all the bands listed above are good/were good, and i probably would\'ve listed them as well (Miles Davis etc..) but come on now... current baby current.

$.02

gitCHu ONe
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: FrankZappa on November 23, 2003, 10:56:43 am
you guys are all nuts. i though seth played with them at butterfield on phatty. you sit in a few times wolf, or am i just remebering wrong.

best jam bands,
frank zappa, miles davis fusion bands, mahavishnu orchestra, chick coria acoustic and electric bands, anything by sun ra, of course Ornet colemans double quartet free jazz, dave brubeck, frank zappa, igor stravinsky, edgar varese, mmw, frank zappa, primus, old phish esp. 1997 fall tour, pb, Grateful dead 67-72, 76-80 and the tour after garcia came back in 88, frank zappa,  bootsie collins, george clinton, bela fleck, victor wooten, and oh yea, frank zappa.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 22, 2003, 03:17:05 pm
Thanx Freddie! I was wondering if the post was joking or ser. Thanx for the clarification.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: freddiewaht on November 22, 2003, 02:31:32 pm
if i recall,perhaps the absolute worst demonstration of noise in the history of sound??um,i wouldnt want that show to ever get to be available for download.whew,just pure ugliness,and not in a phat sorta way..sorry wolfy.stick with throwin parties!!!
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: DocEllis70 on November 22, 2003, 01:30:58 pm
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Originally posted by leith
Tim playing off of some sick sax would be da ****.



Leith ..I agree. What ever happened to that guy that sat in with the band on, oh, what was it....

January, 27th, 2001 - Powder Hollow Barn - Enfield, CT
I: What The Funk > Sundance, Superfly Phaddy Fat > Attraction To Shade Ditty > Gladys Pimp & Kangaroos With Me > Phaddy Boom Baddy*, Moby Dick
* with Seth Wolfman on saxophone




....they should contact that kid again...it was mindblowing.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: dogpatch on November 21, 2003, 06:13:15 pm
THE GRATEFUL DEAD ARE THE BEST.
Also: ABB, Max Creek, Uncle Sammy was good, DTB, Depth Quartet, Steve Kimock, PLQ of course.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 21, 2003, 04:19:17 pm
Like Phish w/ horns ? That is something I never tire of. Trey writes the most insane parts for horns on Phish songs. If any of you back east know a killer horn player turn them on to PB!!!!
Tim playing off of some sick sax would be da ****.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: jocelyn on November 21, 2003, 03:53:13 pm
Although their horns "dominate", and despite the fact that they are great to dance to, I think their horn section is very... safe... in its playing. But I suppose that is the type of horn playing that typically goes with that type of music. (Especially the funkier songs... horn sections in funk bands are rarely something to write home about.) Sonny Rollins would sound weird up there.

This is not a dis of the band, however, I like what the brass brings to the band. I just think there is room for more... know what I mean?
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 21, 2003, 03:22:44 pm
TAB rips!! I was so happy when Trey decided to expand the band. I\'ve seen a bunch of TAB and though not Phish, I danced just as hard and cried tears of joy just the same.
Title: Not absolutely number one, but deserves mention
Post by: ChrisPitch on November 21, 2003, 02:25:21 pm
Trey Anastasio Band. Seen five outstanding shows. Horn section dominates the performance. Everyone else chimes in. A mixture of of many musical styles. Diverse original compositions: some long, some short; some simple, some complex; some lyrically-based, some instrumentally-based. Jams of high quality in terms of energy and musicianship. A band that obviously enjoys performing. Wide-ranging covers (Caravan, Root Down, Black Dog). Two long sets. Give a try to Plasma or any of the shows from the spring tour, which are available for download.

Pitch
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 21, 2003, 02:32:50 am
Last time I saw Anthrax was 4 years ago in some dump in Torrance. It was wierd because the time before that was early 90\'s and they were opening for Maiden. Lovin\' Anthrax since back in \'83/\'84. Little Hessian turned deadhead that\'s me.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: h0ppy on November 20, 2003, 11:23:22 pm
umphrey\'s mcgee
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: freddiewaht on November 20, 2003, 09:55:58 pm
leith,what do yo uknow about anthrax??and no,i dont mean the disease silly..among the living is still one of my favorite albums of all time,and state of euphoria is pretty ser too!
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: Marcial on November 20, 2003, 09:52:43 pm
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Originally posted by Wolfman
Up north, they\'ve gone over about as well as slavery and grits.


LOL!  That is pretty damn funny there, Wolfman.  I do love me some grits though...
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: Wolfman on November 20, 2003, 09:16:43 pm
What is it about WSP that they simply cannot get anyone north of the Mason-Dixie line to get into them?  Up north, they\'ve gone over about as well as slavery and grits.  It\'s weird.  Maybe we\'re all just deaf ignorant ****.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 20, 2003, 01:24:17 pm
OK OK consensus seems to be WSP rocks. let\'s jock some other bands now huh? I know this is gonna sound wierd but anyone listen to Iron Maiden lately. If there was ever a Heavy Metal jamband they are it. I saw the most psychedelic metal show ever last time I saw them. Their last 2 albums are insane!! Most songs are in the 6-9 minute range and in concert woah! Their new 3 guitar line-up is RIPPING!!!!!!!
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: realisthis on November 20, 2003, 09:51:21 am
Come to think of it......I like panic, but not thaaaaaaaaaaat much.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: davepeck on November 20, 2003, 09:10:36 am
ah ****, sound IT!

i have no idea what that means... just beating gray to the punch. :lol:
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: realisthis on November 20, 2003, 09:04:36 am
Panic is so much better than most jambands you ignorant ****.
Oh, wow.... ^ was a little harsh. My apologies, I just woke up.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 20, 2003, 12:19:11 am
Freddie just go eat a peach
Title: damn yankees...
Post by: Marcial on November 19, 2003, 11:40:32 pm
Wolfman - come talk to me after MMW or Umphree\'s (or Phish) play triple headers @ Red Rocks 8 years in a row.... hell, come talk to me when they play a triple header @ RR one year in a row...

Wah - Under the Table and Dreaming? Shouldn\'t you be listening to The Ghost?
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: freddiewaht on November 19, 2003, 11:15:12 pm
personally,my favorite wsp album is under the table and dreaming.what do yo uguys think?
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 19, 2003, 10:44:31 pm
whine all u want but jus\' remember WSP is one of those bands that without them pushing ahead, bands like PB would not even get a chance to show the goods.  GD and Phish get all the credit for constant touring but WSP been doin it for years.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: Wolfman on November 19, 2003, 10:33:53 pm
Yeah, why don\'t you go to the Panic forum while the rest of us discuss good bands.  :duck:
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: jocelyn on November 18, 2003, 06:11:11 pm
oh god get a room you two! ;)
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 18, 2003, 05:38:07 pm
Loosey- goosey Yeah!!! That\'s why I love the Dead and Panic!!That is what I\'m talkin\' about when talkin\' about Panic jams. No need for sped up solo after solo just talk to each other in that slow southern drawl of music.
Title: realthis....
Post by: Marcial on November 18, 2003, 05:10:33 pm
TELL ME ABOUT IT!  I lived up there for 3.5 years, and had to deal with the Wah comparing JB to Dave Matthews!  One good thing this that I got to see a ton of intimate shows while I was there... I mean Toad\'s Place??... there would be a riot if they tried to play a place that small south of the Mason-Dixon.......

To me it\'s not all about how tight a band is, or that they can play 5 million complex notes a show... sometimes loosey-goosey is what does it for me.

It\'s going to suck missing PB @ home for NYE this year, but I have to get my WP while I can....
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 18, 2003, 04:45:24 pm
I did not want to say it but yeah I do think they may sound better w/ George. Even my befuddled friends like the way George is more noticable than Mikey. That is the complaint of many of them that Mikey did not go BANG!! They did not understand the threads he wove to keep Panic jams together. I have only seen 20 or so shows by WSP (3 w/ George) but I can not wait for their hiatus to end. They will have been able to deal w/ the loss of Mikey out of the public eye and that is good.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: realisthis on November 18, 2003, 04:42:37 pm
WSP is also underappreciated in the NORTHEAST also....
Title: WP
Post by: Marcial on November 18, 2003, 04:13:19 pm
I was a bit critical of the way the band sounded with George at first, but I saw a show on 10/18 in Macon, that was one of the best I\'ve ever seen (close to 100 since 1991)... took away any doubts I had that they would never be as good again... dare I say they might have even sounded... better... Houser will never be replaced, but a flashier lead guitar really adds tons to the sound.  Leith, shoot me your address & I\'ll send you a cd of the show....

marcialmendez@hotmail.com
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 18, 2003, 02:21:35 pm
Dude!! That\'s the thing about Panic. I miss Mikey but it has always been about John\'s lyrics 4 me. I am the ONLY WSP fan among my friends and it blows me away how underappreciated they are out here. As for their playing, OMFG they are fcukin\' hard to beat as far as I\'m concerned and now w/ George on board for the long haul Man!(of course they decide to pull a hiatus). They may not be as tight as say PB but man their segues are some of the most inventive on the scene. Then again I might be crazy huh? :)
Title: The Panic
Post by: Marcial on November 18, 2003, 12:52:00 pm
While some may or may not like their instrumental prowess, it\'s damn tough to argue that they don\'t write the best lyrics out there...  just my opinion, of course... lol!
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: realisthis on November 18, 2003, 11:33:54 am
I forgot about Panic, She\'s beautiful - natural Hangin in the diner!
Title: Re: duh...
Post by: davepeck on November 18, 2003, 10:24:14 am
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Originally posted by Marcial
widespread panic


jeez, didn\'t see that one coming! :rolleyes:

:D;)
Title: duh...
Post by: Marcial on November 18, 2003, 10:05:16 am
widespread panic - far & away the best (leith, nice to see another spreadneck on the board)

distant seconds

leftover salmon
north mississippi allstars
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: davepeck on November 18, 2003, 09:50:21 am
yeah, dbb isn\'t back, and unfortunately prolly never will be (for good), especially with BS taking off the way they are...

next wednesday at toad\'s though... can\'t wait!!
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: realisthis on November 18, 2003, 09:31:59 am
DBB (with Hope) was on hiatus since last nye...But, the originall DBB has reunited for a few shows this fall. ...Don\'t really think theyre back for good right now though.

I must also add the one and only Ween...
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: gitCHu ONe. on November 18, 2003, 06:13:12 am
XXXXXXXX======XXXXXXXXX
(mr.)Phish
moe.
Keller *
oh... THe Dead
Leftover
Ween
Alligator Dave and the Couch Band (would fit nicely)
the HUT sessions (ahhh)
Planet 22
Lake Trout (considered jam band at one time)

*playing \'I Could Drink a Case of You\' is beyond belief.

and the list goes on and on... they all rock in their own right.  
Be it jazz, blues, funk, reggae, rock, bluegrass... all with their own improve jamming style. It\'s great.

giTCHu ONe
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: leith on November 18, 2003, 01:53:44 am
Majors: The Dead, WSP
Minors: ALO, Les Claypool\'s Projects, Tea Leaf Green
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: ChrisF on November 18, 2003, 12:47:40 am
isnt dbb back?
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: realisthis on November 17, 2003, 11:26:26 pm
rock: Moe.
funk: Deep Banana Blackout (oops, you said current)
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: ChrisF on November 17, 2003, 10:14:59 pm
either mmw, sco, the slip, or soulive. too hard to narrow down.
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: antbach on November 17, 2003, 10:12:00 pm
gimme some moe. nuff said
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: wstielau on November 17, 2003, 10:10:22 pm
To name a few off the top of my head:

Garaj Mahal

Anything with Skerik in it, e.g. Critters Buggin, Crack Sabbath, Garage A Trois, Ponga...

Ergot (I\'ve never seen them perform live and I don\'t know if these guys are still together but I have several recordings,  the newest 6-15-2001)

Omninous Seapods
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: tiedyetoga on November 17, 2003, 09:04:15 pm
SS9 = Blah.....
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: doobster420 on November 17, 2003, 07:51:45 pm
Motet
John Scofield Band
Sound Tribe Sector 9
New Monsoon
MMW
and that is In no particular order
Title: Who is the best jamband?
Post by: Wolfman on November 17, 2003, 05:23:51 pm
Obviously PB is the best band in the history of audible noise, but who is the best current jamband besides PB?  BTW this is not a "is this a jamband" debate.  If you think the band is a jamband, then just put them in.

My favorites:

Immortals:
1.  MMW
2.  Bela Fleck and The Flecktones

Mortals:
1.  Umphrey\'s McGee
2.  Karl Denson\'s Tiny Universe
3.  Keller Williams
4.  Addison Groove Project
5.  Particle