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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: Overexjoesure on August 07, 2007, 04:34:39 pm
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live album=def good idea. this band is one of those bands that just blows you away at shows, def try and showcase that
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yeah..Im gonna have to say the next album should be done in the studio...thats just my opinion. I have to partly agree with steve in that the last two albums lacked in production.. although I really like deuce, the production and song selection are perfect...
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**** man, I still don\'t have a copy of Zone 1.
Me niether. I used too though and it was the titties! Dobs hook it up!
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Yeah because Phish "A Live One" sucks... "Bona Fide" too (it was a compilation of one night)....
I was thinking along those lines Jason. Make it sort of a merch table/mail order thing. Nothing official.
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i actually think a trio comp isn\'t a bad idea. they did some truly cool stuff that deserves to get shown off. and sometimes a show is meh, but there was one crazy good jam. no reason to make folks muck through it all just to get to the goodness.
that being said, i\'m not sure if that should be their next official release, however. especially since (theoretically) some n00b who purchases that will expect the trio sound when they finally make it out to a show. like trying to turn new folks on to the trio by giving them four-piece shows. just doesn\'t quite work, ya know?!
so to recap, we need a trio compilation for us, but the band needs to officially release a four piece offering next.
any ideas of which songs/jams from which shows we should start considering??
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Bottom line - compilations suck! It doesn\'t give a true picture of what the band does live, it just highlights the peaks.
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should the next release be live?
no^infinity.
it should be a studio album that doesn\'t sound like dogballs.
little harsh huh? Deuce sounds in no way like dogballs as far as I can tell.
agree wholeheartedly. but Deuce was a long time ago. Real Radio and Moxie Epoxy sound like dogballs. hell, \'self-titled\' sounds better than Moxie Epoxy, and they pretty much did that themselves.
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should the next release be live?
no^infinity.
it should be a studio album that doesn\'t sound like dogballs.
little harsh huh? Deuce sounds in no way like dogballs as far as I can tell.
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**** man, I still don\'t have a copy of Zone 1.
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who\'s got my heady zone 2:?::duck:
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it would be cool to see a live album(no matter how many people are playing on it) that showcases some of the tunes that never made an album.
Gladys
Merge
Language
Dig?
etc.
this makes perfect sense. something the dead often did.
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Dave that would be nice. Real nice, but you and I both know they aren\'t gonna fork over the cash for a decent producer.
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should the next release be live?
no^infinity.
it should be a studio album that doesn\'t sound like dogballs.
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i\'d like to hear an album of completely new songs....and when i say new, i mean songs that i haven\'t heard live several times
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Hey Josh Dobson: where is Zone 2? :wave:
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it also helps if the road manager is the least spun guy around... ;)
OMG SOOOOWNED
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it also helps if the road manager is the least spun guy around... ;)
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No offense to Vic and everyone who worked on the record, but 3 strikes and you are out....Its not personal brah.....just business.........It would be like hiring a company to do work for you, and they did a decent job, but nothing stellar, yet you hire them again and again and again???????? sorry chipper. bigger and better things are out there......
I thought Vic & Co. produced the last few albums? That requires allocating capital/taking on risk, which no one else was necessarily going to do at the time.
True Al, however, their efforts have yielded nothing. Nada. Zip.........Again, its not personal, just give someone else a shot. Maybe nobody is ready to take a chance yet, but then wait and just perform live shows as a quartet until someone is ready......thats my opinion......and that is all.
Its like when I was told that I am just not Road Manager material......I didnt take it to heart. You have to be stern, and well.... a hard ass and a dick at times, and I just dont have that in me. I realized that, understood it, and moved on........nothing personal, just biz broseph.
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No offense to Vic and everyone who worked on the record, but 3 strikes and you are out....Its not personal brah.....just business.........It would be like hiring a company to do work for you, and they did a decent job, but nothing stellar, yet you hire them again and again and again???????? sorry chipper. bigger and better things are out there......
I thought Vic & Co. produced the last few albums? That requires allocating capital/taking on risk, which no one else was necessarily going to do at the time.
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ohhhh yahhh, a live disc would be headie....
need a venue with some good acoustics i suppose...but whatever, I don\'t produce music...
*If they do go back into the studio I surely hope they try to go elsewhere for production. Deuce, Real Radio, and Moxie Epoxy, DO NOT really sound the way this band should sound.....No offense to Vic and everyone who worked on the record, but 3 strikes and you are out....Its not personal brah.....just business.........It would be like hiring a company to do work for you, and they did a decent job, but nothing stellar, yet you hire them again and again and again???????? sorry chipper. bigger and better things are out there......
Yes, I like the sounds of this going-forward...
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The next release, in my opinion should NOT be a live album, however, it probably will be.......
Definitely not from the trio. This band is NOW a quartet, and that is how it is going forward......The trio was great, but its over and done with.........
Personally I think they should finish the summer and fall and go into the studio in the winter*.
However, they will probably release a live quartet album first.........
*If they do go back into the studio I surely hope they try to go elsewhere for production. Deuce, Real Radio, and Moxie Epoxy, DO NOT really sound the way this band should sound.....No offense to Vic and everyone who worked on the record, but 3 strikes and you are out....Its not personal brah.....just business.........It would be like hiring a company to do work for you, and they did a decent job, but nothing stellar, yet you hire them again and again and again???????? sorry chipper. bigger and better things are out there......
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I wanna hear Breakfast\'s "Rift".
That\'s a toughie!
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it would be cool to see a live album(no matter how many people are playing on it) that showcases some of the tunes that never made an album.
Gladys
Merge
Language
Dig?
etc.
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Yeah def not release a trio live album.
Wait till Matt has some break-in time with the band and see how things are.
But this might be a good idea... unless the band / producers are totally convinced they can produce a studio album that tops Deuce. IMO Real Radio and Moxie had quality songs, but they just didn\'t shine through in production.
I\'m personally pulling for a sick concept album. Moxie had the concept album cover art... but most definitely was not. I wanna hear Breakfast\'s "Rift".
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if they didnt want to release a jordan show after they became a trio why would they want to release a trio show now that they have matt in the band?
I believe this is debatable as to why they should release one from the Trio era. I personally think they overcame a lot of odds to accomplish some great moments. They had to relearn many tunes and restructure them to fight a 3 piece. There are a few points I can think of that make the Trio period different from the original set up.
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if they didnt want to release a jordan show after they became a trio why would they want to release a trio show now that they have matt in the band?
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I was under the impression they had a DAT archive themselves, loaded with boards and what not. Mind you this would be a compilation, not a release of one show in particular.
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I agree. It would be nice to see which documented shows the band would consider some of their best. Nice idea but I\'m not sure how feasible it will be for them since most of the shows we could get off of archive.
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I think it would be cool if the band compiled a highlights album for the trio period. We got to witness some out of control Queebs and Gladys\' this past year. It would be a shame if they weren\'t documented and offered to the general public.... Maybe throw in a Tuneage, Slack and Eshcers 3+4.