thats a good point, i can get beer if i really need too, i would only use a fake i.d. to get into 21+ shows. i would never be drinking at a 21+ breakfast show, thats just asking to get kicked out, and besides i wouldn\'t want to **** anyone over. Scott from porters was telling me that the fines he would get if the cops were to come and find a bunch of underagers there would be enough to basically put porters out of business.

Underage kids should not be forced to sneaking into bars/clubs for 21+ shows. If you ever did get caught, and not let off with a warning, it would be bad for the bar/club and the band. Not that I don\'t admire all of your hardwork and dedication. It might be the next time the band trys to book the joint that they are denied to play because of an incident in the past. That being said, I feel for you under 21-ers. I believe that 21+ can cause a rift in the fanbase and even cause some younger kids to get turned off of the band. They need more all ages/18+ shows, but where? No such venue really exists that can cover this, outside of your Toad\'s Place and a few others.

My fake worked great until once someone asked me whether in Delaware we call ourselves "Delawarites" or "Delawareans." Guess I should have thought about that one. he he

that sucks! trick question. both are actually correct. but how does not knowing that blow your cover? i don\'t know if i am a connecticutian or is there is even a term for it.

i\'ll risk getting into 21+ shows without a second thought

I\'m all good with that.  Unless somthing changes where I get a CT ID I think I\'m staying out of the 21+ clubs.  

Spacey has a point it\'s bad for the business, the band, and the people you hang around with (your friends).  On the other hand I think venues want 18-20 year olds to be able to come into their clubs, of course it generates more revenue.  But there are to many variables here, once the 18-20 olds get in there, the 21+ will be serving them, regardless of weather you lable the 18-20 olds (IE ristband, X on top of hand, stamped).  

I\'ve got two years, that will come and go reallllll quick, I\'m not too worried as long as ChrisF doesn\'t get a job anytime soon!

OH!  I was thinking about this the other day!  Bezerker (and the sunapee crew), you get caught out of state you better believe your trucking your ass all the way back to New Haven to go to court my friend.  Something you might want to keep in mind.

it really sucks for those of us who dont drink and therefore would pose no risk to the venue.

These are the people who get hurt the most by the situation, IMO.

I think at some point it is out of the club owners hands, laws do fall into place restricting such things as it.

As the owner of Side Street explained to us when he wouldn\'t let Genc\'s in to see Fuzzybox, cause he lost his license.  the owner faces a minimum fine of $750 for allowing underagers in also has to drive to hartford to explain himself at a hearing... didn\'t really make sense to me since SideStreet is a restaurant... but he didn\'t want to hear it.

As much as I hate to admit it, if I owned a club/bar/21+ venue, I would be pissed if underagers were coming in all the time and drinking. Fake IDs maybe, since it\'s hard for the bouncers to identify that sort of thing, but I understand why they would be paranoid. It\'s in everyone\'s best interest. Yes, I have a fake ID that I use at Lafayette Brewing Company all the time, but usually I only make one visit to the bar or else I give my money to a friend and they get it for me. Plus the cops never show up there because it\'s a really classy place and it\'s better known for its formal restaurant downstairs. It\'s a townie bar across the river from campus and the campus bars, so it\'s hardly ever the target of underage drinking.