Leith, yes, I would make a terrible manager.  But isn\'t the jam scene a market unto itself?  Does every band want to become part of the "mainstream market?"  And if so, how much of their integrity do they have to give up to do it?  I just have a problem with bands "selling out" to become popular.  I remember hearing John Mayer about 5 years ago and loved his stuff.  I don\'t care for solo stuff, but I find his trio work is much more in tune with my tastes. Yes, my post comes totally from a fans perspective and no, I\'m not a fan of mainstream music, as I find most of it stale and uninteresting.  Thanks for responding.

Regarding John Mayer: I find it interesting that no one bothers to take his perspective into account. Did it ever occur to anyone that perhaps he IS making the music that he wants to make? Whether we like it or not?

A friend of mine played in a fusion band, one of whose members inherited ****-****-loads of money. They recorded an album in the same studio, with one of the same "sound guys" (can\'t remember his exact position) that John Mayer has used. I found it interesting to discover that John Mayer told this sound guy that he considered his early music to be "sell-out material" which was aimed at pleasing those guys. (You know, them.) He said that his last album was the only one which he recorded for himself, as true artistic expression.

Just a little f.y.i.

Bands can be comfortable without sucking the teet of the music industry. Jambands like Umphrey\'s, moe. and Bisco are perfect examples. Are they millionaires? Probably not. Do they more or less have full creative control of their output, and make a living off of doing what they love the most. YES! Is that all that should matter??? YES!!

Oh. And whether you like these bands or not... WHAT HE SAID.

All these replies and not one answer... sssssiiggghhhhhh

Alternate theory (just to cover all the known possibilities):

OMC = Marcial Mendez -> Taylor Hicks  -> Simon Fuller

sheeeeet, i\'d write a song called \'mmmm mmmmm budweiser\' and put it on my debut album \'live from a mcdonald\'s in a wal-mart while wearing nike\'s\' if it meant playing guitar and never worrying about bills again!

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A.Grayson Brulte aka TiedyeToga
B. Friend of Grayson Brulte

Hahahahaha!! I have pondered both of these scenarios since his first loooong post.
A.) Def. not Grayson, there were no hawhawhawhaws.
B.) I don\'t think Grayson cares enough about this band anymore to give a rats ass.

I think it\'s Joe\'s buddy. Come on...he has stated in the past about all of his so called "contacts" and "friends" in the industry. Although...all of those "contacts" have never netted any gain. He\'s just toying with us with this "poll". :lol:

I chose E. Bring Back Kote!

Seeing as for some strange reason I don\'t know have poll posting privellages, here is the mind bending question we\'ve been asking ourselves this past week.

Who is OMC?

A.Grayson Brulte aka TiedyeToga
B. Friend of Grayson Brulte
C. Friend of Steffmo
D. Friend of Josh Kroop
E. Bring Back Kote
F. I don\'t care, this poll isn\'t even a poll. I feel like I\'m taking the SAT\'s. Joe get a **** life.

HA..........I would be reluctant to guess A.  B is a possibility.  I am pretty sure that C and D are out.  I would rather hear Za get band support and make it into the rotation before they bring back Kote..........

It doesnt sound like OMC is full of **** or pulling our legs, though i wonder who the person was from this community that contacted him was....  Regardless, I just hope Spunk or timn8r can truy to get to the bottom of this and debunk any rumors and whathaveyous.

Nice poll Joe.....

Bands can be comfortable without sucking the teet of the music industry. Jambands like Umphrey\'s, moe. and Bisco are perfect examples. Are they millionaires? Probably not. Do they more or less have full creative control of their output, and make a living off of doing what they love the most. YES! Is that all that should matter??? YES!!

Trey, "you" are flat wrong. Without the music industry, there would be no jamband scene. Have you ever thought about who distributes the music you listen to you? Or who owns the venues that you see music in? All of these companies are apart of the industry in one form or another.

"Jambands like Umphrey\'s, moe. and Bisco are perfect examples. Are they millionaires? Probably not."

Not even close!!!! How many times have you heard their music on a TV show or in a movie? More then likely zero. So their Music Publishing is not making them what it could. Mainstream consumers want short hip songs that sell. These bands DO NOT make that type of music; hence they will never have the mainstream appeal or the bank account to match it.

There are a lot of major label bands that I work with everyday that have artistic control. Just look at Kelly Clarkson, she wrote her new album and had control over it. The Old Man could not even stop her. Even though he slammed her on Idol.

Bottom line is that Jambands are not mainstream bands. They are a sub-culture that has little to no impact on my bottom lines. Be a fan and enjoy the music. Just do not look for the success that you want them to have.