Seeing as for some strange reason I don\'t know have poll posting privellages, here is the mind bending question we\'ve been asking ourselves this past week.
Who is OMC?
A.Grayson Brulte aka TiedyeToga
B. Friend of Grayson Brulte
C. Friend of Steffmo
D. Friend of Josh Kroop
E. Bring Back Kote
F. I don\'t care, this poll isn\'t even a poll. I feel like I\'m taking the SAT\'s. Joe get a
**** life.
Could we do it as analogies?
Who cares? He/She makes great points that no one can really argue with.
^^^ Another excellent point.
My last name is Hawe, not Howe, just so you know.
Who cares? He/She makes great points that no one can really argue with.
Obviously Joe cares.
And while we\'re at it, I\'m super curious myself (though that is my nature).
Who cares? He/She makes great points that no one can really argue with.
<< begs to differ. ( :lol: damn that stubborn I\'talian streak...)
bisco sucks
Wilco sucks. You\'re contending for fag-of-the-year honors with taste like that.:wave:
Sure, he makes many valid points, many of which I can agree with wholeheartedly. But the Umphreys comments "Can\'t sell out The Key Club in L.A." and "They have ZERO buzz...." sort of irk me. L.A., hmmm, believe it has a large Metal scene. Remember all those great (LOL) metal bands of the \'80\'s and \'90\'s with big hair, makeup and ridiculous clothing? A bunch of talentless ass kissing wannabe rock stars who did whatever the record companies wanted them to do. They sold their souls to be poplular. Is this what musicians should strive to be like? And on the "Zero buzz......without good to great vocals you will not sell and appeal to a large audience. No audience, no sales." Yeah, get a singer and we\'ll make these guys popular and ride them all the way to the bank. I guess that instrumental bands don\'t count at all. Spoken like a true money grubbing capitalist with a penchant for becoming a future record company executive. I do believe that Umphreys is playing main stages at mostly all of the festivals they are playing this summer. "Zero buzz...." hmmm.
And the John Mayer comments. This is totally against what music is supposed to be. I strongly believe that music is a form of art and should be treated as such. It\'s mentalities such as this, as much as they help, have also helped to ruin the music industry. Money, Money, Money. Yes, it does make the world go around, but at what cost? I feel that if a band can continue to make music, do it their way and make a living off of it, more power to them. I believe it\'s called integrity. No, it doesn\'t work for most bands, but personally I have more respect for a band that tried to do it their way and failed than allow the corporate world to strip the music of its soul and artistry for the sole purpose of capitalism.
As the senior member of .info (at least I think I am), these are tenets which I strongly believe in and have shaped my musical tastes and listening habits for the last 35 years. Two words, creativity and talent is what determines what I enjoy to listen to. Thanks to Joe for keeping this one alive. Comments?
at least you can get molly and doses in the umphreys lot
:shrug:
edit: huh?
Sure, he makes many valid points, many of which I can agree with wholeheartedly. But the Umphreys comments "Can\'t sell out The Key Club in L.A." and "They have ZERO buzz...." sort of irk me. L.A., hmmm, believe it has a large Metal scene. Remember all those great (LOL) metal bands of the \'80\'s and \'90\'s with big hair, makeup and ridiculous clothing? A bunch of talentless ass kissing wannabe rock stars who did whatever the record companies wanted them to do. They sold their souls to be poplular. Is this what musicians should strive to be like? And on the "Zero buzz......without good to great vocals you will not sell and appeal to a large audience. No audience, no sales." Yeah, get a singer and we\'ll make these guys popular and ride them all the way to the bank. I guess that instrumental bands don\'t count at all. Spoken like a true money grubbing capitalist with a penchant for becoming a future record company executive. I do believe that Umphreys is playing main stages at mostly all of the festivals they are playing this summer. "Zero buzz...." hmmm.
And the John Mayer comments. This is totally against what music is supposed to be. I strongly believe that music is a form of art and should be treated as such. It\'s mentalities such as this, as much as they help, have also helped to ruin the music industry. Money, Money, Money. Yes, it does make the world go around, but at what cost? I feel that if a band can continue to make music, do it their way and make a living off of it, more power to them. I believe it\'s called integrity. No, it doesn\'t work for most bands, but personally I have more respect for a band that tried to do it their way and failed than allow the corporate world to strip the music of its soul and artistry for the sole purpose of capitalism.
As the senior member of .info (at least I think I am), these are tenets which I strongly believe in and have shaped my musical tastes and listening habits for the last 35 years. Two words, creativity and talent is what determines what I enjoy to listen to. Thanks to Joe for keeping this one alive. Comments?
You don\'t seem to understand the point about UM. The fests you mention they are playing the main stages on? Big Whoop. In the larger scale of the music industry UM and the jam scene in general have little to zero buzz.
Just because UM is a fairly major player in the jam scene does not equate to buzz in the mainstream market to which OMC is referring to.
Yeah OMC is speaking from the point of a "capitalist with a penchant for becoming a future record company executive." If a band wants to make money as a touring band these are things they should consider. If they are happy with being a local band that makes trips to "play out" or are more interested in making music for art\'s sake and don\'t want to make a living at playing music then they ignore these things.
I agree music is a form of art where you seem to be mistaken is confusing music made for art\'s sake and making music as your primary source of income.
So yeah what John Mayer did to some may not be what music is about but from another angle if Mayer had not played to the music execs he would never have been able to play with the people he has or make the kind of music he wants on his terms now.
As for the tenets to which you believe in? Awesome for you but you would make a horrible Manager
Peace
All these replies and not one answer... sssssiiggghhhhhh