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Quote from: spance;238057
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Ken, with all due respect, I\'m pretty sure there\'s no "cartel" ties behind the organic white widow I\'ve been enjoying as of late...
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Quote from: KEN RAFLOWITZ;238053
I Don\'t Like To Lecture About What People Do,
But Here\'s Some Of my Comments On Drugs.
The Worst Thing About Drugs Are The People Who Get The
Goods Into Your Hands.Behind It All Everybody Are People
Who Slaughter Anyone In The Way Of Their Business.
Woman,Children & Also Families Connected To Those Involved In The Trade.
These People Are Bad! Drug Cartels Are Some Seriously Horrible People!
It\'s True! Go Cross One Of Them & Find Out For Yourself!
All Along The Line There\'s Alot Of Pain & Horror To Get The Dope Out.
Pot Too! The Drug Cartels Also Have Their Iron Hand Behind Alot Of The Pot Trade.
It\'s Big Money. That\'s What They Want! Follow The Trail Behind Your Dope,It\'s a Long
Messy Journey To Your Hands.
**** Is Funding Their Estates And Airplanes. So Go Have a Sniff Of Their Product!
People Die Along The Way. Heroin Funds The Terrorist Tribes!
Grown In Afghanistan Just For You To Enjoy! Home Of The Poppy!
Using Drugs Is Mockiing The Greatness Of God. Drugs Is A Material Substance.
God Is Spirit & Consciousness. Drugs Are Chemicals Blowing Through The Brain.
To Reach The Spirit Of Consciousness Takes Work & Discipline.
There\'s No Answers Within Any Drug. Another Perception Maybe, But With No Answer.
I agree that violent drug cartels are a problem; however, if drugs were legal and regulated like alcohol is, drug cartels would not exist. The problem today is similar to alcohol prohibition in the 1920\'s, but with more organization and profit motive. People have always used drugs: Native American Peyote ceremonies, South Americans chewing coca leaf, Ayahuasca (DMT) ceremonies in the Amazon, mushrooms (psilocybin and amanitas), opium poppies, tobacco (unprocessed), cannabis, alcohol (wine in Christianity), LSD in some hippie religion, and many more if I wanted to keep going.
Also, the drug cartels are not much of an issue if you look at what\'s going on right now around the world (Genocides and such). Not saying that I support cartels, I make my own. The gov\'t spends billions of dollars fighting an unwinable war (again think alcohol prohibition) and the media gobbles it up, but not much attention or money is paid to stop the massive killing and raping going on in Darfur and other such atrocities.
We spent a few years and tons of $$$ fighting poppy cultivation in Afghanistan; now there are several years worth of opium and heroin stockpiled for cartels to profit from. The Taliban were AGAINST opium trade and cultivation (religious beliefs) until we went to war with them. Now they use it as their primary source of income to buy weapons, soldiers, and loyalty. All because of the huge profit involved. How do we get rid of violent drug cartels? We legalize all drugs, because drug abuse is a MEDICAL problem, not a criminal problem. Violence is criminal, getting high is not.
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One question, where do the drug cartels, U.S. street gangsters etc. derive an income if their drugs are legal and regulated? Extortion? More robberies/violent crime in other areas to make up for their dwindling drug incomes? kidnappings for ransom?
Or does the government tax drugs to the point that a black market still flourishes parallel to the legal one?
Lets face it, there are hundreds of thousands or more street thugs that will never legitimately work and will need an income, so what will they do if drugs are legal?
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meltdown=PEEPED
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Quote from: alexanderzurflu;238064
One question, where do the drug cartels, U.S. street gangsters etc. derive an income if their drugs are legal and regulated? Extortion? More robberies/violent crime in other areas to make up for their dwindling drug incomes? kidnappings for ransom?
Or does the government tax drugs to the point that a black market still flourishes parallel to the legal one?
Lets face it, there are hundreds of thousands or more street thugs that will never legitimately work and will need an income, so what will they do if drugs are legal?
I want to know your thoughts.
hmmm, become street bums like everyone else without a job?
Extortion and more robberies/violent crime would be minimal--> little profit vs work+risk
Selling drugs right now = mega profit compared to work+risk
Where would thugs get $$ for expensive guns and ammo without highly profitable drugs to sell? Organized crime break-ins would be much easier to stop than quiet drug transactions. Plus with most of our law enforcement freed up from busting pot smokers and hippies at the CULM, they could go after the violent gangs, mobs, and cartels. Put the dea to work on the streets to keep the peace, they\'re already para-military.
"Or does the government tax drugs to the point that a black market still flourishes parallel to the legal one?"
I\'d grow it in my garden and not worry about paying a fine for that, I do worry about being thrown in jail for that. A black market exists for alcohol and tobacco because of the taxes, but not so much violence since they are legally available.
And we could set free the thousands and thousands of non-violent offenders from our *highly profitable* private prisons, and have plenty of room for the violent thugs you speak of.
meltdown=PEEPED
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There Are No Drug Cartels Involved In Having A Beer.
You\'re Mixing Issues.
There Is No Crime Or Murder Involved At Breweries.
There Is A Purpose For The Proper Use Of Certain Drugs,
As Long As One Is Honest What That Proper Use Is.
The Demand For Drugs Is What Fuels The Industry.
Don\'t Be Part Of It.One Step Towards A Solution.
We Need To Shift The Purpose Of People\'s Lives From
Something Destructive To Something Constructive.
It\'s The Same Energy, It Just Has To Be Shifted To Something Worthwhile.
There Is No Real Need For People To Be Drug Users.
Life Is What It Is. No Need To Hide In Chemical Delusions.
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Quote from: KEN RAFLOWITZ;238081
There Are No Drug Cartels Involved In Having A Beer.
You\'re Mixing Issues.
There Is No Crime Or Murder Involved At Breweries.
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Seems Like We\'re Not Going To Solve Any Problems In This World.
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Back to the subject:
I guess the Billy Blanks/Chags/Mays power trio workout video Tae Bo Billy x 3 is not gonna be filmed. -
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"Using Drugs Is Mockiing The Greatness Of God. Drugs Is A Material Substance."
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Ken wtf so you love beer dude, we get it.
Lucky for you your favorite substance is legalized. I for one drink alcohol only because better alternatives are inconvenient and risky to obtain. -
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Quote from: KEN RAFLOWITZ;238081
There Are No Drug Cartels Involved In Having A Beer.
You\'re Mixing Issues.
There Is No Crime Or Murder Involved At Breweries.
There Is A Purpose For The Proper Use Of Certain Drugs,
As Long As One Is Honest What That Proper Use Is.
The Demand For Drugs Is What Fuels The Industry.
Don\'t Be Part Of It.One Step Towards A Solution.
We Need To Shift The Purpose Of People\'s Lives From
Something Destructive To Something Constructive.
It\'s The Same Energy, It Just Has To Be Shifted To Something Worthwhile.
There Is No Real Need For People To Be Drug Users.
Life Is What It Is. No Need To Hide In Chemical Delusions.
We Are Already Perfect The Way We Are. There Is Nothing To Add To Perfection.
And what about pharmaceutical profits? I would think that legal drugs are almost more f*ed up than illegal ones. There is a huge profit margin, and the risks of using pills probably increases tenfold to the risk of smoking a joint. I mean, have you ever heard some of those "side-effects lists" - they\'re much worse than whatever was the original problem! Also, Ken, you can live your life how you want to... but, just realize when it comes to other people and their beliefs, the last line in your quote sums it up best
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Quote from: KEN RAFLOWITZ;238081
We Are Already Perfect The Way We Are. There Is Nothing To Add To Perfection.
We are infinetely far from perfect.
We are on an everlast quest to better ourselves and those around; to expand our own horizons, knowledge and conciounouess (though not spelling) to experince things and be at levels we can never dream of.
Drugs play no part in this.
Billy Mays pushed us by making us question why we would never use glue, nails, or screwdrivers when we could use mighty putty.
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Quote from: FrankZappa;238052
studio 54? what were you using it in preschool? :lol:
Studio 54 reopened in \'94 and then closed down again in \'95... Although, isn\'t Upstairs At Studio 54 still open when no plays are being held? -