theres a certain radius around new york city that if you leave this radius, you should NEVER EAT THE CHINESE FOOD. i was down in florida on tour one time and i ate chinese and it made me feel like i was going to die. SO BAD!
Almost any given Chinese place in the area of Mass. I grew up in is really good.
None of the restaurants have chicken fingers out here, a staple at any Americanized Chinese place back East.
Also, Lo Mein on the East Coast is called Chow Mein here.
theres a certain radius around new york city that if you leave this radius, you should NEVER EAT THE CHINESE FOOD. i was down in florida on tour one time and i ate chinese and it made me feel like i was going to die. SO BAD!
Houston Tejas = enormous asian population = fantastic asian food
Theres a place in Northwest houston called Tosa, they make a roll called The Shaggy Dog, it\'s shrimp and rice and a bunch of other tasty schtuff... my mouth is watering just thinking about it.
Chineese Food is the human equivillant to Dog Food......
That being said, from the right places that I have found (or get recommended to), General Tso\'s Chicken, Sweet and Sour Chicken, Pork Fried Rice, and Lo Mein satisfy my cravings for the human alpo
Yeah whatever guy. You know this post was a mistake or AT least your wording. Right?
Chineese Food is the human equivillant to Dog Food......
That being said, from the right places that I have found (or get recommended to), General Tso\'s Chicken, Sweet and Sour Chicken, Pork Fried Rice, and Lo Mein satisfy my cravings for the human alpo
Yeah whatever guy. You know this post was a mistake or AT least your wording. Right?
Leith, did you get to experience any of the New Haven Italian food while you were hanging with the Italians a couple weekends ago?
I still haven\'t been to Sally\'s, though all the other food I\'ve sampled in the area has been delicious.
I\'ve been eating SuperHaven apizza for 5 years now, and I lived in NYC all last year and ate the pizza there. I consider myself supremely qualified to answer this tasty question.
Let\'s get one thing straight right off the bat: You cannot beat SuperHaven apizza anywhere in the Western Hemisphere. Since this is a debate between New Haven vs. New York, believe me when I say that there isn\'t one place in New York that can beat Pepe\'s, Sally\'s, Modern, Bar, or John and Maria\'s.
The pizza in New York might be the most overrated aspect of the entire city. Why does it get such a good rep? Because it is better than 99.9% of all the pizza in the USA, which all pretty much sucks. (Especially when you consider that about 80% of the entire domestic pizza output comes from Pizza Hut, Domino\'s, Papa John\'s, Little Caeser\'s, and other robotic chains.) So people travel from all over the USA to check out New York, and they think the pizza is the best they\'ve ever had, and they\'re right. In addition, the fact that the eater is in New York puts them in a mindset where everything is grand and wonderous beyond its actual scale. The problem is, they\'ve never been to New Haven.
Anthony makes a good point about how there are so many different pizza restaurants in New York that it\'s hard to know which ones to use to judge the city by, wheras in New Haven everyone knows you judge the city by Sally\'s, Pepe\'s, and Modern. However, after eating in many New York pizza restaurants (and I mean restaurants and not the slice-express stores you see on every corner) I realized that they all have something in common: I call it the Marginal Utility Theory of Industry in New York. (MUTINY) This theory is applicable to many industries in New York, but for this example we will stick with pizza restaurants. Every pizza restaurant in New York is charging as much as they can, usually about $12 for a small and up to $30 for a large with a topping or two. They get away with it because they are in New York and people come with money. They cannot raise their price because they are at the market threshhold; nobody will pay $40-$50 for a pizza no matter how good it\'s supposed to be. Since they cannot raise their price they cannot raise their quality without cutting into their margins, but there is no need to raise the quality anyhow since they have a good reputation where they are. Customers, even those who live locally, will perceive the quality to be higher than it is because it\'s in New York and everything looks chique and authentic on the surface.
In summary, the MUTINY theory proves that there is no benefit for a pizza restaurant in New York city to raise their quality. They all charge the market maximum for mid grade to upper-mid grade pizza, and are able to fill the restaurant. Thus, every pizza restaurant hovers at this level of quality and will not get any better. So, in response to Anthony, it really does not matter which restaurants you use to judge New York City pizza by, because the MUTINY theory proves that they are all at the same level.
Bottom line: Nothing wrong with New York pizza. It\'s easily better than most. But it is not as good as New Haven and never will be.
Leith, did you get to experience any of the New Haven Italian food while you hanging with the Italians a couple weekends ago?
I still haven\'t been to Sally\'s, though all the other food I\'ve sampled in the area has been delicious.
The only place I got to eat from other than @ Todd\'s was a pie place near him called Bobby\'s? It was alright. I really want to try a more well known joint.
sally\'s is better than pepe\'s. 
Except for one thing, and that is the white clam pie. Pepe\'s is the best you will ever have.
fair enough, wolfy. i think that most NY pizza is overrated, but i\'ve never had a better pie than the pie i get at Totonno\'s. I haven\'t had NH za so i can\'t really comment there, next time i come up for richters someone must direct me to one of these pizza joints.
I am sure the best pizza places in New Haven have better pizza than a lot of the half ass pizza places in manhatten.
But the question is does the best pizza in NEw Haven stand up to the best pizza in ny?
apparently this will not be solved till we somehow get the top 3 pizza places in NY vs. New Havens top 3.
theres a certain radius around new york city that if you leave this radius, you should NEVER EAT THE CHINESE FOOD. i was down in florida on tour one time and i ate chinese and it made me feel like i was going to die. SO BAD!
Almost any given Chinese place in the area of Mass. I grew up in is really good.
In general I agree with Jim. Almost every "chinese food" restaurant anywhere is just fast food with soy sauce. However, there are two notable exceptions that I know of: 1. China Town in any city. Real authentic, delicious stuff. Every restaurant in China Town in Boston is very good, even the closet-sized ones that are open until 4AM. 2. Any place with a high population of Jews. Jews LOVE Chinese food, particularly high-end Chinese food. I grew up in Framingham, MA which has a good 15,000 Jews, and the town has 2 of the best Chinese restaurants you\'ve ever been to. (And on the Sabbath you can find more of your temple congregation in these restaurants than in temple.) My mom now lives in Brookline in Coolidge Corner which also has a huge concentration of Jews, and there\'s 20 kick-ass Asian restaurants in walking distance.
But the question is does the best pizza in NEw Haven stand up to the best pizza in ny?
Did you read my post? I know that New Haven is better from both extensive experience and sound economic rationalization.
apparently this will not be solved till we somehow get the top 3 pizza places in NY vs. New Havens top 3.
It\'s solved. It\'s over. Besides, you could never get a panel to agree on what the top 3 in NYC are. Also, you couldn\'t possibly eat the pizzas side-by-side in a taste test without having to transport one city\'s pies and reheat them.
New Haven
has to be the best, that\'s their entire raison d\'etre. They get no help from being located in New Haven. New York gets by by just being good enough and being in New York. MUTINY theory proves that getting better can only hurt a pizza restaurant in New York. Thus, New Haven must be better. (Which I know from experience anyways.)
I understand what you are saying Wolf.
But, There has to have been a poll in NYC that was taken that ranked the Pizza places. You can use those as rudimentary standards.
Granted it would take a lot to organize a Pizza side by side Whose better. All of us who live in CT know how good New Haven pizza is, so we only need to eat some NY pizza to mnake our minds up. Not the best test at all but it is a start.
I have yet to hear any facts (w/footnotes to prove where they come from), that makes anyones opinion more then that or an assumption.
I want an end to this.
I want an end to this.
If my tongue and brain aren\'t enough for you, FINE.
Here\'s what you do:
1. Find said list of rankings of NYC pizza restaurants. Even better, find several lists and see if they have any restaurants in common. Determine Top 3 NYC restaurants. Call to make sure they offer pick-up.
2. On 9/9, pick up a large mooz (no toppings) from Sally\'s, Pepe\'s, and Modern, and bring them to New York City. (Before the Breakfast show.)
3. Find someone who lives in NYC to pick up pies from the NYC stores and to host the challenge. Reheat the New Haven pies and away we go, they\'ll still be pretty darn fresh. The Superhaven Apizza Tourney rules will apply. Reference the old "apizza" thread for details, or I\'ll give you the rules later. Let everyone know the deal so there are sufficient judges. May the best pies win.
I\'ll be happy to help with judging and paying for apizza.
I trust your words and wisdom.
I am just making myself so hungry for pizza that I really want an end to this. I just want to eat a pizza now.
I will take a look into seeing if anyone has ever tried to make a list of the best Pizza spots in NYC. (i.e. maybe the food network has a list, maybe a NY publication has a list, a food magazine)
I will see what I come across and see what we can do about this.
In the end, we will all be winners and full.
Gencs called chinese food Alpo