Wow this thread went in a direction I wasn\'t expecting.

But I see a lot of issues here

1) Because YOU decide that something isn\'t for you should not be a basis for telling others that they are somehow broken because they chose to keep on keeping on

2) Because your life seems better to you now after giving something up is also not he basis to draw conclusions about others who do not choose your path

All this BS about being spiritual is total BS. If thats what gets you off then fine but your spirituality is yours and yours alone.

weed does not destroy your soul (like you have one anyway). If you really think that then I highly suggest you speak to certain folks with in the Rasta community and even perhaps certain Hindi sects. Purple Kush is named for a region in India where Cannabis has been grown since before Western Civilization. It is used in Eastern religions as well as Rastafari. I think they would be very put off by the idea that their sacrament somehow destroys their soul.

It is also used in many many non-western cultures for a simple intoxicant. Morocco and other  Arabic countries where alcohol is taboo.

This whole smashing ones ego screams Psychology 101. Perhaps this ancient saying will help

"Oh Great Spirit, grant that I may never find fault with my neighbor until I have walked the trail of life in his moccasins."

Any "spiritual growth", or increased "self awareness" due to marijuana is nothing more than another illusion of the ego.

All illusions of the ego become clear and put in perspective under the influence of cannabis.

Can\'t you see that your belittlement of Jah-Love Botanical Manifestation is a reflex of your own ego?

It didn\'t tell me anything I already didn\'t know. It only enhanced my ego\'s stronghold.

Drugs affect everyone differently. :shrug: Sucks for you.

Fact is YOU are dependent on this chemical to make you feel a certain way. It\'s escapism Leith, plain and simple.

Ummmm, no ****, you need weed to feel stoned? Oh wait, except nobody really needs to feel stoned so it\'s not a big deal. I prefer to smoke regularly but it certainly doesn\'t bust my balls if for whatever reason I choose to go without. Also Cannabis is not a "chemical" it contains a complex of hundreds of chemicals. Sort of like Pepsi.

If it was truly a spiritual tool people would only need to use it several times, and never again. Then if that were the case everyone would be high, and all on planet earth would be ascended in oneness with the universe.

Your logic is totally bunk and you\'re smart enough to know it. There is absolutely no logic that says just because something is a spiritual tool it needs to be used only once.

For some people, it may need to be used only once. For others it may not.

And for others, maybe it needs to be used only once but since its so damn fun and harmless, they choose to keep using it!

Jah Love Organic-Manifestation ... it lifts my spirit. I do not consider this a bad thing. Some are jealous and consider it "cheating". All that matters to me is that I am a better and happier and healthier person because of cannabis vapors.

Emotionally healthy humans serve a humble life with compassion and love.  They allow themselves to live free of fear by accepting their faults and the faults of others as being byproducts of the ego and collective human dysfunction. They\'re in constant growth and self awareness until the day they liberate the soul.

I was referring to people using several times, destroying the ego, and liberating the soul (hence the ascension).  Sorry if I wasn\'t clear.

You\'re over-idealizing the concept of ego death / rebirth to assume that once that takes place under the influence of drugs, the soul is "liberated".

Many people have taken large doses of shrooms, LSD, DMT, etc and had their egos crushed, entered a state of one-ness with the universe, then came down off their drugs and remembered who they were. And most of those people were pretty much the same **** they were in the first place after a little time passes.

This is why people repeatedly use psychedelics including ganja. "Real Life" has a way of making you forget all that you are. As humans, sometimes we need a reminder.

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Marijuana makes you realize that whatever you are doing is just not worth doing.

I could not disagree more strongly.

thats what lazy people say when they don\'t want to do something. lazy people who smoke decide they don\'t want to do something and then they blame it on drugs.

What the statements says is that on pot you realize what you are doing isn\'t worth really doing. What you say or at least the way I read it, is that lazy people don\'t do something and blame it on weed. Which my statements states, or at least the way I read it, is that whatever you are doing isn\'t worth doing.

Not that I was ser about said statement, I was just fluffing and creating a little contro.

btw, are you calling me lazy? :lol:

There is nothing wrong with being lazy sometimes. I love to being lazy. But there is a place and time for everything. I was just thinking of all the old stereotypes about lazy pot heads etc. Sure I know a lot of lazy people, some of them even smoke, but I know alot of lazy people who don\'t.

Fair enough, Mr. kindm\'s, fair enough.