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Drugs are banned? :wah:
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The next person that tells me that this can be directly correlated to the rise of violence in entertainment and the media is getting kicked right in the **** nuts. They have that stuff everywhere in the world yet we are the only society that does disgusting things like this on the regular.
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Drugs are banned? :wah:
I knew my point would be missed on a wookie scenester like yourself....... -
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I get your point and I agree that we should live our live as if there\'s no tomorrow!
I also feel that people carrying guns to make themselves feel safe isn\'t the answer either. I can\'t speak for anyone else, but I\'ve been in the situation where a gun was pulled on me and all I wanted to do was do was get me out of there safely, which is what I did. Let\'s look at this from a different point of view. If I had a gun, I could have pulled it while the other gun was pointed at me, but what would that have solved. Most likely I would have been shot regardless of whether I was able to fire back - would carrying a gun really make the situation any better?
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Ry, I hear you lound and clear.
Back in 2003 I was able to go to a shooting range and fire 9 mil, 30/30 hunting rifle, and a semi automatic M-16 (i think). I was taught respect and safety for the weapon before even being allowed to touch a gun. After I fired the first shot out of the 9mil, the only thought that went through my mind was, "How can one human being point this instrument at another human being?". The sheer power was, and still is, mindblowing to me. However I was, and still am, more of a pacifist, choosing dialogue and common sense to try and settle disputes. Now, obviously there will always come times when you have to stand up and fight back, but I dont think firearms are the answer to anything.......
The worst thing about this is that now, all of a sudden, nobody cares about Don Imus being fired for calling a bunch of nappy headed ho\'s, nappy headed ho\'s.....His whole show for like 30 years has been about calling a spade a spade, and now, all of a sudden, he\'s fired for some bullshit.....**** Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson, and all the media watchdogs. **** them up their stupid asses....Why dont those two morons focus on lifting up people instead of bringing down people?
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I couldn\'t agree more. One must respect the sheer magitude what the weapon represents before firing or owning one. Enough said.
As for Imus, I don\'t really care that he\'s off the air (mainly because I never listened to him. I always found his voice annoying and his format corny). That being said, do I think that he should have been fire, absolutely not! I feel that the 2 week suspension was enough and should have appeased his critics. Do I feel the comments that me made towards the Rutgers Women\'s BB team were offensive and uncalled for, yes (but that might be a local thing for me). Don\'t fret though, I\'m sure that he\'ll turn up on XM or Sirius in a couple of months. -
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But the Chicago Tribune quoted investigative sources as saying Cho, who was studying English literature, left behind an invective-filled note and had shown recent signs of aberrant behavior, including setting a fire in a dorm room and allegedly stalking some women.
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But the Chicago Tribune quoted investigative sources as saying Cho, who was studying English literature, left behind an invective-filled note and had shown recent signs of aberrant behavior, including setting a fire in a dorm room and allegedly stalking some women.
Why was this fucker still in school?
I see what you are saying Todd, but who would have suspected that he would have gone on a 30+ person killing spree? As a country I dont think we can live like that......
**** happens. People die unfairly all day every day. How is this any different than someone getting shitfaced drunk and driving into a car full of kids on their way to school?
I am just trying to spark conversation as opposed to enciting a riot. I just dont see how we can screen people who "have the potential for major mental snapping".....It\'s just not possible....I am sure we could get some, but who knows why people do what they do? -
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The press stated that his creative writings were extremely distrubing and was sent to a school counsler.
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I don\'t believe that disturbing writing should be a prerequisite for going on a shooting spree. If that was true, Stephen King would be the biggest mass murderer we\'ve ever seen.
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I got your point, read the signature.
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he also might have been taking medication for depression.
any one watch the memorial?Quote from: YahooA look at some of the victims killed in the Virginia Tech massacre:
Ross Abdallah Alameddine
Alameddine, 20, of Saugus, Mass., was a sophomore who had just declared English as his major.
Friends created a memorial page on Facebook.com that described Alameddine as "an intelligent, funny, easygoing guy."
"You\'re such an amazing kid, Ross," wrote Zach Allen, who along with Alameddine attended Austin Preparatory School in Reading, Mass. "You always made me smile, and you always knew the right thing to do or say to cheer anyone up."
Alameddine was killed in the classroom building, according to Robert Palumbo, a family friend who answered the phone at the Alameddine residence Tuesday.
Alameddine\'s mother, Lynnette Alameddine said she was outraged by how victims\' relatives were notified of the shooting.
"It happened in the morning and I did not hear (about her son\'s death) until a quarter to 11 at night," she said. "That was outrageous. Two kids died, and then they shoot a whole bunch of them, including my son."
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Ryan Clark
Clark was called "Stack" by his friends, many of whom he met as a resident assistant at Ambler Johnson Hall, where the first shootings took place.
Clark, 22, was from Martinez, Ga., just outside Augusta. He was a fifth-year student working toward degrees in biology and English, and a member of the Marching Virginians band.
"He was just one of the greatest people you could possibly know," friend Gregory Walton, 25, said after learning from an ambulance driver that Clark was among the dead.
"He was always smiling, always laughing. I don\'t think I ever saw him mad in the five years I knew him."
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Daniel Perez Cueva
Perez Cueva, 21, from Peru, was killed while in a French class, said his mother, Betty Cueva, who was reached by telephone at the youth\'s listed telephone number.
Perez Cuevas as a student of international relations, according to the Virginia Tech Web site.
His father, Flavio Perez, spoke of the death earlier to RPP radio in Peru. He lives in Peru and said he was trying to obtain a humanitarian visa from the U.S. consulate here. He is separated from Cueva, who said she had lived in the United States for six years.
A spokesman at the U.S. Embassy in Lima said the student\'s father "will receive all the attention possible when he applies" for the visa.
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Kevin Granata
Granata, a professor of engineering science and mechanics, served in the military and later conducted orthopedic research in hospitals before coming to Virginia Tech, where he and his students researched muscle and reflex response and robotics.
The head of the school\'s engineering science and mechanics department called Granata one of the top five biomechanics researchers in the country working on movement dynamics in cerebral palsy.
Engineering professor Demetri P. Telionis said Granata was successful and kind.
"With so many research projects and graduate students, he still found time to spend with his family, and he coached his children in many sports and extracurricular activities," Telionis said. "He was a wonderful family man. We will all miss him dearly."
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Caitlin Hammaren
Hammaren, 19, of Westtown, N.Y., was a sophomore majoring in international studies and French, according to officials at her former school district.
"She was just one of the most outstanding young individuals that I\'ve had the privilege of working with in my 31 years as an educator," said John P. Latini, principal of Minisink Valley High School, where she graduated in 2005. "Caitlin was a leader among our students."
Minisink Valley students and teachers shared their grief Tuesday at a counseling center set up in the school, Latini said.
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Emily Jane Hilscher
Hilscher, a freshman majoring in animal and poultry sciences, was known around her hometown as an animal lover.
"She worked at a veterinarian\'s office and cared about them her whole life," said Rappahannock County Administrator John W. McCarthy, a family friend.
Hilscher, 19, of Woodville, was a freshman majoring in animal and poultry sciences. She lived on the same dorm floor as victim Ryan Clark, McCarthy said.
A friend, Will Nachless, also 19, said Hilscher "was always very friendly. Before I even knew her, I thought she was very outgoing, friendly and helpful, and she was great in chemistry."
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Liviu Librescu
Librescu, an Israeli engineering and math lecturer, was known for his research, but his son said he will be remembered as a hero for protecting students as the gunman tried to enter his classroom.
Librescu taught at Virginia Tech for 20 years and had an international reputation for his work in aeronautical engineering.
"His research has enabled better aircraft, superior composite materials, and more robust aerospace structures," said Ishwar K. Puri, the head of the engineering science and mechanics department.
Librescu\'s son, Joe, said his father\'s students sent e-mails detailing how the professor saved their lives by blocking the doorway of his classroom from the approaching gunman before he was fatally shot.
"My father blocked the doorway with his body and asked the students to flee," Librescu\'s son, Joe Librescu, said Tuesday in a telephone interview from his home outside of Tel Aviv. "Students started opening windows and jumping out."
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G.V. Loganathan
Loganathan was born in the southern Indian city of Chennai and had been a civil and environmental engineering professor at Virginia Tech since 1982.
Loganathan, 51, won several awards for excellence in teaching, had served on the faculty senate and was an adviser to about 75 undergraduate students.
"We all feel like we have had an electric shock. We do not know what to do," his brother G.V. Palanivel told the NDTV news channel from the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu. "He has been a driving force for all of us, the guiding force."
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Mary Karen Read
Read was born in
South Korea into an Air Force family and lived in Texas and California before settling in the northern Virginia suburb of Annandale.
Read, 19, considered a handful of colleges, including nearby George Mason University, before choosing Virginia Tech. It was a popular destination among her Annandale High School classmates, according to her aunt Karen Kuppinger.
She had yet to declare a major.
"I think she wanted to try to spread her wings," said Kuppinger, of Rochester, N.Y.
Kuppinger said her niece had struggled adjusting to Tech\'s sprawling 2,600-acre campus. But she had recently begun making friends and looking into a sorority.
Kuppinger said the family started calling Read as news reports surfaced.
"After three or four hours passed and she hadn\'t picked up her cell phone or answered her e-mail ... we did get concerned," Kuppinger said. "We honestly thought she would pop up."
(A previous version of this story referred incorrectly to Martinez, Ga., as an Atlanta suburb. It is a suburb of Augusta.)
Yahoo
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obviously there will always come times when you have to stand up and fight back, but I dont think firearms are the answer to anything.......
Not even when confronted by a lethal threat?
Was this kid even a U.S. citizen? Why are we even continuing the debate on further limitations to a constitutional amendment, especially if this kid is likely a Korean national? Though guns can do more harm than words, it is almost as absurb as Sharpton calling for more controls on Amendment #1 after his condemnation of Imus.
I personally think that every school should have teachers/principals trained in weapons and also have them on all campuses with undisclosed teachers/administrators. Let\'s face it, it takes a while for cops to show up and enter the building after assessing the threat. An armed populace can end events like the one at Virginia Tech much quicker than the police can.
There are more than 60 million legitimate gun owners in the U.S. and almost all the gun crime comes from illegally-obtained weapons. We already have in excess of 20,000 gun laws in the U.S., few of which stop determined criminals from inflicting harm. Further restrictions on the law-abiders is only going to aid the motivated criminal.
In fact, there are towns/cities in the U.S. that mandate that all non-criminal adults own weapons. From what I have heard, crime is very low since criminals know not to mess with an armed populace. The places with the most stringent controls and low gun ownership rates tend to have more violence. I see a strong link between responsible gun ownership and lower crime levels, but don\'t exepct to hear about in the mainstream press. -
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the kid was a legal US citizen since 1992.
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